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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
Finally, drunkard bot?
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Recent Account Bans
snaek
Regina Buenaobra
There are third party programs that we tolerate, but we don't provide any support for them whatsoever. We have not taken action on some of those third party programs because we don't feel that they provide an unfair advantage. But I have to stress: this applies to some of those programs in their original form. Players use third party programs with Guild Wars at their own risk. If those programs are modified (and maybe you won't even know about it), we make no guarantees as to whether this could incur account termination. As James said in his post, if you're in doubt, just don't use it.
Lolwut1337
For the last 45 minutes my stomach has been upside down, I've been sweating and my heart beats like crazy...I hope there's some way to prove A-net I've never ever ever ever ever ever even had a bot on my PC . :\
MithranArkanere
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Originally Posted by Agar
Many well know players with some of the rarest minis got banned, i wonder if they will disappear forever.
By the way people are chanting for Dhumm in some districts, maybe this is the start of a cult! lol |
I wish they were the 6 gods:
- You scam, give links or spam with promises of working cheats or hacks? Grenth hates liars. You get draw to the underworld by his cold hand.
- You manipulate matches or any other kind of cheat or hack in PvP? Balthazar burns you.
- You use bots in PvE or abuse bugs and exploits? That's an abomination. Melandru turns you into a twig. An ugly one.
- You violate the inappropriate behavior, chat impoliteness or character names? That's not nice. Four arms come from a crack in space, and grab the character. Once the character disappears, Lyssa appears through the crack and ascends.
- You make any kind or real money trading? O-ho-ho... that's wicked. Dwayna takes care of you with a pillar of light.
- Account stealing or using another one's account? Ah... other people's passwords should not be a knowledge you have... Kormir.
And for the rest of breaches... Dhuum slipts from its prison once in a while to take care of that.
Ah... a man can only dream...
chowmein69
Nothing of value was lost
Garreth MacLeod
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Originally Posted by Dzjudz
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snaek
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Originally Posted by Stuart444
having never used the program, I wouldn't know but I do remember one program doing it by copying the dat file and making two versions of the .exe file. That doesn't sound like changing the code to me unless it injected code into the .dat file.
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Lolwut1337
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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
There are third party programs that we tolerate, but we don't provide any support for them whatsoever. We have not taken action on some of those third party programs because we don't feel that they provide an unfair advantage. But I have to stress: this applies to some of those programs in their original form. Players use third party programs with Guild Wars at their own risk. If those programs are modified (and maybe you won't even know about it), we make no guarantees as to whether this could incur account termination. As James said in his post, if you're in doubt, just don't use it.
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Voodoo Rage
So is multilaunch ok? I just started using it and sure as hell don't want to lose TWO accounts! :/
FoxBat
My inkling is they are using IP address as a tool to identify botters with multiple accounts and get all of them. This can lead to all sorts of false positives though depending on how that was included in the analysis.
Bob Slydell
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Originally Posted by Garreth MacLeod
So basically if you're going to use GWML or TexMod, be sure and download them from the original source; i.e. the official wiki for texmod and imkey's thread here on guru for GWML. Is that what she is saying? (I know imkey has had several release of GWML)
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Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by Bob Slydell
No, because the ones above give you no absoulte advantage to the game and closest: TexMod.. just modifies textures in direct x memory layer, so it really dosen't even touch Guild Wars.
What you are asking is still a no no because it is a form of "let the bot do it for me while I do something else" which is one thing they have never tolerated. I hope people stop asking now.... there is a strong difference than the 4 Emily mentioned and the drunkard bot.. EDIT: By the way does anyone actually think TexMod was designed for and only works with Guild Wars? Well to answer that, no it was never even designed for GW, the author probably never intended it to, probably never heard of Guild Wars and yes TexMod works with other games. |
Acumen
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Originally Posted by Sierraa
It is a dead game. Compare it to when it first came out and it has less activity. There are also people out there who have 20+ accounts for when the Xunlai tournament was active. :\
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Even if 10% of the playerbase was banned (I'm sure it's less than 1%, the majority of players aren't even interested in using wiki or forums, much less botting), there's still 33,300 people playing.
Rolain
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Well, I saw people /cheer every time I saw one of those, XD.
I wish they were the 6 gods: - You scam, give links or spam with promises of working cheats or hacks? Grenth hates liars. You get draw to the underworld by his cold hand. - You manipulate matches or any other kind of cheat or hack in PvP? Balthazar burns you. - You use bots in PvE or abuse bugs and exploits? That's an abomination. Melandru turns you into a twig. An ugly one. - You violate the inappropriate behavior, chat impoliteness or character names? That's not nice. Four arms come from a crack in space, and grab the character. Once the character disappears, Lyssa appears through the crack and ascends. - You make any kind or real money trading? O-ho-ho... that's wicked. Dwayna takes care of you with a pillar of light. - Account stealing or using another one's account? Ah... other people's passwords should not be a knowledge you have... Kormir. And for the rest of breaches... Dhuum slipts from its prison once in a while to take care of that. Ah... a man can only dream... |
tazer
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Originally Posted by Hollygen
Taken from a conversation in Great Temple of Balthazar ongoing at the moment
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But OK, more seriously - If it was and will be aimed for real cheaters and will be done with extreme precaution, then good job.
I mean if ANet can really really REALLY distinguish bots from 'normal' hardcore farmers, then it's fine
Anyway props for Dhuum appearing and swinging his scythe of death, it's just awesome
Bob Slydell
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
Explain to me how a bot that simply money sinks and does nothing else provides an advantage or his harmful to other players.
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End of story.
Regina Buenaobra
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Originally Posted by Lolwut1337
But, Regina , there are thousands of articles and videos and guides with people saying TexMod is TOTALLY safe to use, and they're all giving links to the wiki download page . So if that's all I did - downloading it from the wiki link , what did I do so it resulted in my account getting banned ?
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Stuart444
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
Explain to me how a bot that simply money sinks and does nothing else provides an advantage or his harmful to other players.
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user a: *clicks on drunk item and waits a while*
user a: *Clicks on drunk item again once the first item has died down*
user b: *uses bot to automate clicks of the item every minute or two*
user b: *goes off to do something else while bot does work for him*
BlueAngel
This is great news.
sixdartbart
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
Explain to me how a bot that simply money sinks and does nothing else provides an advantage or his harmful to other players.
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Garreth MacLeod
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Originally Posted by Bob Slydell
Just match the md5's from the original source to the one you downloaded just to be sure it's safe. If the author has not posted one, ask for one. Given the current situation I'm sure they would be happy to provide you with a simple md5
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snaek
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
Explain to me how a bot that simply money sinks and does nothing else provides an advantage or his harmful to other players.
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Ixillius
Id love to know how much more high end limited items we lost this time.
How many kanaxai/oni/hench tonics got erased from existence?
Id appreciate if ANet would give a statement about those items.
How many kanaxai/oni/hench tonics got erased from existence?
Id appreciate if ANet would give a statement about those items.
Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by Stuart444
ok, advantage:
user a: *clicks on drunk item and waits a while* user a: *Clicks on drunk item again once the first item has died down* user b: *uses bot to automate clicks of the item every minute or two* user b: *goes off to do something else while bot does work for him* |
LADIES AND GENTS HIDE YOUR EGG TIMERS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON DRUNKARD.
No gestapo I am wearing mine gold star and I do not have an egg timer.
jazilla
It was also stated that they were quiet about the bans. Maybe they are keeping quiet on macro bans for a reason.
Stuart444
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
Okay, with that idea that anything that gives an "advantage" even if it's not harmful to anyone, so, a timer that beeps every minute on my computer to remind me is a third party program that is giving me and unfair "advantage" and should be bannable, and hell, this egg timer on my desk is hardware meant for exploiting the same thing.
LADIES AND GENTS HIDE YOUR EGG TIMERS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON DRUNKARD. No gestapo I am wearing mine gold star and I do not have an egg timer. |
Stop arguing, your embarrassing yourself now
Bob Slydell
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
Okay, with that idea that anything that gives an "advantage" even if it's not harmful to anyone, so, a timer that beeps every minute on my computer to remind me is a third party program that is giving me and unfair "advantage" and should be bannable, and hell, this egg timer on my desk is hardware meant for exploiting the same thing.
LADIES AND GENTS HIDE YOUR EGG TIMERS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON DRUNKARD. No gestapo I am wearing mine gold star and I do not have an egg timer. |
Ayaya
Judgement Day!
I suggest to make a monument to memorialize this day~
I suggest to make a monument to memorialize this day~
snaek
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
Okay, with that idea that anything that gives an "advantage" even if it's not harmful to anyone, so, a timer that beeps every minute on my computer to remind me is a third party program that is giving me and unfair "advantage" and should be bannable, and hell, this egg timer on my desk is hardware meant for exploiting the same thing.
LADIES AND GENTS HIDE YOUR EGG TIMERS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON DRUNKARD. No gestapo I am wearing mine gold star and I do not have an egg timer. |
Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by Stuart444
except that an egg timer still requires you to click in game rather than go off and do something else away from the computer.
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But what about my water drinking dip bird?
Bob Slydell
What should be done now is that a mod take out every post but the Anet employees posts before this gets too out of hand as I can see that approaching.
EDIT: Man, the site is slowing down, I guess this is gaining some activity now more ragers to come!
EDIT: Man, the site is slowing down, I guess this is gaining some activity now more ragers to come!
poppu16
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Originally Posted by Acumen
And some people actually call Guild Wars a "dead game" when a tiny percentage of the playerbase is over 3000?
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
Okay, with that idea that anything that gives an "advantage" even if it's not harmful to anyone, so, a timer that beeps every minute on my computer to remind me is a third party program that is giving me and unfair "advantage" and should be bannable, and hell, this egg timer on my desk is hardware meant for exploiting the same thing.
LADIES AND GENTS HIDE YOUR EGG TIMERS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON DRUNKARD. No gestapo I am wearing mine gold star and I do not have an egg timer. |
Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by snaek
stop taking this out of context, they are banning for botting, and using a drunkard bot is well...botting.
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Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim.
It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo.
K'baa
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Originally Posted by Agar
Many well know players with some of the rarest minis got banned, i wonder if they will disappear forever.
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Thanks Anet well done
Leigh The Legendary
I for 1 am happy. There hasn't been a day go by where I didn't encounter a team with 2 mesmers and 1 ranger with a full bar of interupts and interupting 1/4 cast spells. This will make pvp much more fun and interesting since alot of the top teams were doing this.
/approve
/approve
Shayne Hawke
Seeing now that they seem to be okay with players using the original TexMod, that gives me some relief, but I'm still disappointed to be unable to access GW right now to make sure my account is still safe and sound.
I was sure that ANet was listening, but not certain that they would react. This makes me a little more confident in what ANet is doing towards this issue.
One question that I still have is about the /report command. This command has an option for reporting botters, but the statement that James Phinney gave only mentioned to go to Support for reporting botters. Can we still count on using the /report command for botters to have some kind of purpose or effect?
I was sure that ANet was listening, but not certain that they would react. This makes me a little more confident in what ANet is doing towards this issue.
One question that I still have is about the /report command. This command has an option for reporting botters, but the statement that James Phinney gave only mentioned to go to Support for reporting botters. Can we still count on using the /report command for botters to have some kind of purpose or effect?
Aldric
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LOLOLOL
seriously, you killed the best pvpers, the richest gw players, and 1000s of people that loved this game. gratz. |
The only ones who don't deserve scorn are those who have been wrongly banned and lets hope Anet pull their finger out and get any possible errors reversed.
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
Okay, with that idea that anything that gives an "advantage" even if it's not harmful to anyone, so, a timer that beeps every minute on my computer to remind me is a third party program that is giving me and unfair "advantage" and should be bannable, and hell, this egg timer on my desk is hardware meant for exploiting the same thing.
LADIES AND GENTS HIDE YOUR EGG TIMERS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON DRUNKARD. No gestapo I am wearing mine gold star and I do not have an egg timer. |
A bot does it for you , you press go and come back when you have a title. A timer which beeps at a set time so you know when to press a button is totally different , which is pretty bloody obvious.
Drunkard bots have, to my recollection, always been considered againt the EULA and a banable offense whereas non automated programs like texmod and Multilaunch were not.
byteme!
Only thing I want to know is what was removed from the game besides cheating scumbags. I'll never know but still...
PS. Too bad I missed out on Dhuum. Would've been LOLWTFEPIC to screen shot some of the banned accounts being taken away. Would love to know who got banned.
PS. Too bad I missed out on Dhuum. Would've been LOLWTFEPIC to screen shot some of the banned accounts being taken away. Would love to know who got banned.
sixdartbart
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
I'm simply questioning whether or not something that is not intended to be malicious, is not malicious in any way, and not harmful to anyone, should be acted upon.
Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim. It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo. |
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Originally Posted by Ghost Dog
The mental gymnastics people perform to justify their cheating is astounding.
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