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Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

26 May 2010 at 23:55 - 201

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

I'm simply questioning whether or not something that is not intended to be malicious, is not malicious in any way, and not harmful to anyone, should be acted upon.

Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim.

It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo.

So the Honda boy goes home and pops out his drunkard bot.

Seriously just stop, now.. it's embarrassing.

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

26 May 2010 at 23:56 - 202

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

I'm simply questioning whether or not something that is not intended to be malicious, is not malicious in any way, and not harmful to anyone, should be acted upon.

Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim.

It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo.

but the dude in the lamborghini was supposed to be in a civic too. it was in the rules of the race. You see the problem now? if not, I suggest you leave.

s73ve_o

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

W/

26 May 2010 at 23:56 - 203

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Okay, with that idea that anything that gives an "advantage" even if it's not harmful to anyone, so, a timer that beeps every minute on my computer to remind me is a third party program that is giving me and unfair "advantage" and should be bannable, and hell, this egg timer on my desk is hardware meant for exploiting the same thing.

LADIES AND GENTS HIDE YOUR EGG TIMERS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON DRUNKARD.

No gestapo I am wearing mine gold star and I do not have an egg timer.

agreed. if all it does is prevent you from waisting your time on something and doesnt effect anyone else then it should be ok. if it effected others thatd be a different story.

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

26 May 2010 at 23:57 - 204

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage

So is multilaunch ok? I just started using it and sure as hell don't want to lose TWO accounts! :/

jesus christ people.

They already said it's "okay" to use GWML. Do they have to sing it to you??

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

26 May 2010 at 23:57 - 205

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

Seeing now that they seem to be okay with players using the original TexMod, that gives me some relief, but I'm still disappointed to be unable to access GW right now to make sure my account is still safe and sound.

I was sure that ANet was listening, but not certain that they would react. This makes me a little more confident in what ANet is doing towards this issue.

One question that I still have is about the /report command. This command has an option for reporting botters, but the statement that James Phinney gave only mentioned to go to Support for reporting botters. Can we still count on using the /report command for botters to have some kind of purpose or effect?

If you aren't at a computer with access to Guild Wars, try the NCsoft account. I think the NCsoft account reports back to you on the page with your GW accounts if any are playable or unplayable, maybe this can help you out some bit?

s73ve_o

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

W/

26 May 2010 at 23:58 - 206

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

I'm simply questioning whether or not something that is not intended to be malicious, is not malicious in any way, and not harmful to anyone, should be acted upon.

Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim.

It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo.

a free lambo thats also available to the first guy

prey monkie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2009

[OhNo] Mallyx and Friends

Mo/

26 May 2010 at 23:58 - 207

well i have to say. this is prob the most effective NERF they have done in a while. Anet failing in nerfing SC's made every sc'er lol. most Sc's got easier after the nerf and this probably did the job. Just ban all the good players. lol

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

27 May 2010 at 00:00 - 208

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

I'm simply questioning whether or not something that is not intended to be malicious, is not malicious in any way, and not harmful to anyone, should be acted upon.

Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim.

It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo.

You are completely missing the point. Guild Wars should be played the way it is meant to be played. Titles and achievements, however trivial, should not be further devalued with the ability to simply automate them and walk away from your PC.

'It doesn't hurt anyone' is not a valid point. It hurts the game.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

27 May 2010 at 00:00 - 209

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Okay, with that idea that anything that gives an "advantage" even if it's not harmful to anyone, so, a timer that beeps every minute on my computer to remind me is a third party program that is giving me and unfair "advantage" and should be bannable, and hell, this egg timer on my desk is hardware meant for exploiting the same thing.

LADIES AND GENTS HIDE YOUR EGG TIMERS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON DRUNKARD.

No gestapo I am wearing mine gold star and I do not have an egg timer.

I've been working on drunkard, off and on when I have the ale... for over 2 years. Swear to god, and I'm only ~7600 miniutes in. Granted, I play alts, so I can't drink all the time and I haven't played much in the last 6 months, but still.

People with bots can get the same title in under 2 weeks by afking.

The only reason ale-hound is prestigious at all is because of the massive time sink involved in drinking all that ale. Drunk bot removes that time sink. If you don't see the difference, I don't know what the hell is wrong with you.

Cool Down

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2009

Denmark

E/

27 May 2010 at 00:00 - 210

Quote:

Originally Posted by s73ve_o

a free lambo thats also available to the first guy

But it's still not the rules of the race.... so just stop argueing.
When you said yes to playing this game, you said yes to playing it without bots as well.. so stop you stupid whining

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

27 May 2010 at 00:00 - 211

Quote:

Originally Posted by prey monkie

well i have to say. this is prob the most effective NERF they have done in a while. Anet failing in nerfing SC's made every sc'er lol. most Sc's got easier after the nerf and this probably did the job. Just ban all the good players. lol

These "good players" got banned for botting. Botting makes players good? I don't think so.

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Disconnect the fascination

LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.

R/

27 May 2010 at 00:01 - 212

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixdartbart

Heres a responce from another thread that fits perfectly for you.

There is no need for you to continue trolling here, just go use your BOT and see how it goes!!!

It astounds me the amount of mental gymnastics you are doing to somehow see it as being harmful/malicious. A different tune would surely be whistled if you too were using something for drunkard, it's all perspective. Let's step outside of this whole perspective based argument, and go back to what I'm trying to say.

Find me a way in which this can be construed as malicious. And should something that is not proven to be malicious be acted upon.

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

[ToA]

27 May 2010 at 00:01 - 213

Quote:

Originally Posted by prey monkie

well i have to say. this is prob the most effective NERF they have done in a while. Anet failing in nerfing SC's made every sc'er lol. most Sc's got easier after the nerf and this probably did the job. Just ban all the good players. lol

To be qualified as a good player you have to use bots?

I wasn't aware.

Lost_Score

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/Me

27 May 2010 at 00:01 - 214

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Okay, with that idea that anything that gives an "advantage" even if it's not harmful to anyone, so, a timer that beeps every minute on my computer to remind me is a third party program that is giving me and unfair "advantage" and should be bannable, and hell, this egg timer on my desk is hardware meant for exploiting the same thing.

LADIES AND GENTS HIDE YOUR EGG TIMERS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON DRUNKARD.

No gestapo I am wearing mine gold star and I do not have an egg timer.

you'll hang for that eggtimer you fiend.

Cool Down

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2009

Denmark

E/

27 May 2010 at 00:02 - 215

Quote:

Originally Posted by prey monkie

well i have to say. this is prob the most effective NERF they have done in a while. Anet failing in nerfing SC's made every sc'er lol. most Sc's got easier after the nerf and this probably did the job. Just ban all the good players. lol

Yeah.. so a bot is a good player huh?
You are so awesome at arguing!

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

27 May 2010 at 00:02 - 216

Quote:

Originally Posted by prey monkie

Just ban all the good players. lol

What we're witnessing is the exact opposite, cheaters are getting banned, those are no "good players", sorry.

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Disconnect the fascination

LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.

R/

27 May 2010 at 00:03 - 217

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

I've been working on drunkard, off and on when I have the ale... for over 2 years. Swear to god, and I'm only ~7600 miniutes in. Granted, I play alts, so I can't drink all the time and I haven't played much in the last 6 months, but still.

People with bots can get the same title in under 2 weeks by afking.

The only reason ale-hound is prestigious at all is because of the massive time sink involved in drinking all that ale. Drunk bot removes that time sink. If you don't see the difference, I don't know what the hell is wrong with you.

Money sink titles the prestige has never been about the time to activate the gold sink, it's always been about having the initial gold to complete them.

nicpid

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

SRB

W/Me

27 May 2010 at 00:03 - 218

banning "cheaters" in a dead game, this is classic ban-drafting, i don't trust u at all, i think that u are not capable to process 3.7k accounts now at this stage of the game, you just want to save sever resources, and your slowly shutting down GW cuz the GW2 beta will come in q4 this year.In the beginning the bots were ruining the economy of GW but now after 5 years the bots are the only thing that keeps this games economy rolling by pumping in the resources, consumable price will go sky high now and I didn't max those title yet so u made my task more difficult....

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

27 May 2010 at 00:04 - 219

Quote:

Originally Posted by s73ve_o

agreed. if all it does is prevent you from waisting your time on something and doesnt effect anyone else then it should be ok. if it effected others thatd be a different story.

Since your thread about "your friend" botting got deleted let me offer you the same advise as the other troll here.

KEEP USING YOUR BOT and be sure to come post a giant QQ thread here so we can know how it worked out for you. errr I mean "your friend"

tazer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tiny Siege Turtles

27 May 2010 at 00:04 - 220

Quote:

Originally Posted by K'baa

I say in a week or so if they havent come forward to argue or been proven incorrectly banned Anet takes all the minis and reinstalls them to the game with Lotto tickets-say 10 per account.

Thanks Anet well done

I'd say they will rather announce another Mini Mania with rare minis in magazines across the world and get money from it

[it's not that I disapprove earning money

]
@s73ve_o: I've done most of my Drunkard while doing vanquishes so I'd say I was quite PLAYING the game :P and now what?

s73ve_o

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

W/

27 May 2010 at 00:05 - 221

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool Down

But it's still not the rules of the race.... so just stop argueing.
When you said yes to playing this game, you said yes to playing it without bots as well.. so stop you stupid whining

getting that title is NOT playing the game. you sit in town doing nothing but clicking your mouse button. f that. there is no way that you can call zoning out watching tv except for the one time a minute as playing the game

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

27 May 2010 at 00:05 - 222

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

I'm simply questioning whether or not something that is not intended to be malicious, is not malicious in any way, and not harmful to anyone, should be acted upon.

Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim.

It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo.

the drunkard title was intended to be gained through manual clicking. you are bypassing this through a bot, which would be considered cheating. to better word your illustrated example (although it fails anyways because drunkard bots are used for pve purposes and race driving would be considered pvp), it would be like a driver with his class c car is pissed off because another driver entered the class c race with a class a car.

anyways, the point is that this game, much like any other, has rules; break them, and expect to be punished.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

27 May 2010 at 00:05 - 223

Quote:

Originally Posted by byteme!

These "good players" got banned for botting. Botting makes players good? I don't think so.

Most of them are (oops... were, HAHA) condescending a- holes who look(ed) down on people and told them they are (oops...WERE) better than you.

Now some of them are gone and I literally cheered when I first saw all this action. WOoo!

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

27 May 2010 at 00:06 - 224

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Find me a way in which this can be construed as malicious. And should something that is not proven to be malicious be acted upon.

You're basically saying that honest players not using an autoclicker are idiots.

Wonder why there was no built in drunkard bot. Better yet, we should all be getting the Drunkard title by just clicking once.

Sure.

...

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

27 May 2010 at 00:06 - 225

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Money sink titles the prestige has never been about the time to activate the gold sink, it's always been about having the initial gold to complete them.

Disagree. Drunkard is more about the time AND the money. That's why it's more prestigious then sweet tooth, and more prestigious then party points (even though party points were initially rarer and more expensive).

@s73ve_o: having worked on the drunkard title legitimately, you do not just drink ale while afking/watching tv. You drink ale all the time. When I'm playing PvE, I'm drinking. When I'm raptor farming (a farm that conveniently takes about 3 miniutes), drinking. When I'm selling stuff in chat, drinking. When I'm playing RA (not even kidding), drinking. Pretty easy to do when you turn off post processing effects.

Hellick Stoner

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2009

Louisa, Kentucky (USA)

DarkFallenWill [END]

W/E

27 May 2010 at 00:06 - 226

Quote:

Originally Posted by NerfHerder

...

14. TERMINATION

(a) NC Interactive reserves the right to suspend or terminate this Agreement (including your Software license and your Account) immediately and without notice if you breach this Agreement or willfully infringe any third party intellectual property rights, or if we are unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide to us, or upon game play, chat or any player activity whatsoever which is, in our sole discretion, inappropriate and/or in violation of the spirit of the Game(s) as described in the Rules of Conduct.

Should NC Interactive decide to suspend or terminate this Agreement with a User under any circumstances, the User will lose access to your Account.

(b) You agree that if the Service or your Account is suspended, terminated or cancelled for any reason or length of time, you are not entitled to any reimbursement or refund of any fees or unused access time.

And if you want to take it up with customer support, I dont think threats are going to help your case.

lol you sound as bad as them. you make no sense. that quote pertains IF I DID Violate the eula agreement, WHICH I DID NOT!

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

27 May 2010 at 00:07 - 227

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Money sink titles the prestige has never been about the time to activate the gold sink, it's always been about having the initial gold to complete them.

says you? what do you think separates drunkard from the sweets title that causes people to think that drunkard is much more "prestigious" (lol).

Stuart444

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Alexandria, Scotland

The Charter Vanguard [CV]

W/

27 May 2010 at 00:07 - 228

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicpid

banning "cheaters" in a dead game, this is classic ban-drafting, i don't trust u at all, i think that u are not capable to process 3.7k accounts now at this stage of the game, you just want to save sever resources, and your slowly shutting down GW cuz the GW2 beta will come in q4 this year.In the beginning the bots were ruining the economy of GW but now after 5 years the bots are the only thing that keeps this games economy rolling by pumping in the resources, consumable price will go sky high now and I didn't max those title yet so u made my task more difficult....

reading this hurts my eyes....

in any case, LOL @ Dead game, that was already covered though, LOL @ not trusting "you" (FYI it's not spelled "u")

and to save more LOLing, I'll just say LOL @ your post.

oh and in that last line, you say it made your task more difficult which basically means you admit to using a bot (or plan on using one but this has put you off it). That makes me lol a bit more tbh.

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

27 May 2010 at 00:07 - 229

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

One question that I still have is about the /report command. This command has an option for reporting botters, but the statement that James Phinney gave only mentioned to go to Support for reporting botters. Can we still count on using the /report command for botters to have some kind of purpose or effect?

The /report command goes to Customer Support. We provided other options, like the email ([email protected]) or the web interface, to make it easier for players to report issues.

Lolwut1337

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2010

Kama america-dis 1 :o

Straight To The [BanK]

E/

27 May 2010 at 00:08 - 230

They could've at least let me buy the 2 obby armors I've been working 5-8 hrs/day for..wrote to A-net...we'll see what happens . :\

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

27 May 2010 at 00:08 - 231

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Slydell

Most of them are (oops... were, HAHA) condescending a- holes who look(ed) down on people and told them they are (oops...WERE) better than you.

Now some of them are gone and I literally cheered when I first saw all this action. WOoo!

Ya I've played with some of these a-holes. I wasn't impressed.

s73ve_o

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

W/

27 May 2010 at 00:08 - 232

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixdartbart

Since your thread about "your friend" botting got deleted let me offer you the same advise as the other troll here.

KEEP USING YOUR BOT and be sure to come post a giant QQ thread here so we can know how it worked out for you. errr I mean "your friend"

im not an idiot im not going to do something that gets me banned. and im not a troll (One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument). i have a point i am trying to make and thats the bottom line. i bought the game and i should be able to play how i want so long as it doesnt impact anyone else. Why would you be mad about other people doing autoclickers for ale hound other than jealosy that you waisted your time on bullshit that shouldnt be in the game in the first place when "my friend" skilled right by it.

Jeydra

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

27 May 2010 at 00:08 - 233

Excellent Regina, excellent! Best thing that happened to Guild Wars in recent memory.

Is there a list of all the banned accounts somewhere? I want to know if any my friends got banned (i.e. no point keeping them on friend's list anymore).

EDIT: Some people have said it's better to temporary ban with a warning of permanent ban if it goes on. I'm a firm believer of second chances, so yes I do think this is a better thing to do. However, I'll also say that harsh action is still better than no action at all. I can't say how excited this round of bannings got me, I'm just a bit sad I wasn't online when Dhuum reared his head over GW

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

27 May 2010 at 00:08 - 234

The only thing I can think of with this thread...

Glad to see this. Hope to see FAR more of it. Especially in JQ/FA.

Oggy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

27 May 2010 at 00:08 - 235

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Slydell

Most of them are (oops... were, HAHA) condescending a- holes who look(ed) down on people and told them they are (oops...WERE) better than you.

Pot... kettle...

End

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

27 May 2010 at 00:09 - 236

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellick Stoner

lol you sound as bad as them. you make no sense. that quote pertains IF I DID Violate the eula agreement, WHICH I DID NOT!

Actually it dosen't just sayin....

not to mention I do believe section 11 applies in most areas

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

27 May 2010 at 00:09 - 237

Thank you. My PvP consists of JQ and botters make it a misery to play. So, just Thank You.

BladeDVD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Hawaii

Clan Of Elders

N/

27 May 2010 at 00:09 - 238

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

I'm simply questioning whether or not something that is not intended to be malicious, is not malicious in any way, and not harmful to anyone, should be acted upon.

Everybody seems to have this "there is no victimless crime" mentality, but in this case, there is. Please point to the victim.

It's like two people getting into an automotive race and the guy who is driving an eighty five civic getting pissed off because homeboy showed up to face him driving a lambo.

Do you dispute that the drunkbot program is a bot? That's why it was banned, because it was a bot. People could create a bot that lets them open and close their storage all day long and it would also be against the rules because it is a bot.

It doesn't matter how much it actually "harms" anyone in the game, bots are against the EULA, use them and you have no defense if you get banned.

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Regarding the G15 keyboards...soon after they did the contest, they said that as long as they weren't used to automate game play, they were fine.

Assigning /resign to a key, or ; spacebar, that was fine, programming it to do the raptor run, not so much.

I think someone earlier was talking about hitting one key to activate hero skill 6...that's fine (heck, the game itself lets you do that) but hitting one key to activate skill 6 on all heroes, you're probably getting pretty close to asking for trouble in my opinion.

Cool Down

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2009

Denmark

E/

27 May 2010 at 00:10 - 239

Quote:

Originally Posted by s73ve_o

getting that title is NOT playing the game. you sit in town doing nothing but clicking your mouse button. f that. there is no way that you can call zoning out watching tv except for the one time a minute as playing the game

Dude, you can run around in missions and explorable areas while being drunk.. there's even skills to use when your drunk, so there's no excuse

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Disconnect the fascination

LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.

R/

27 May 2010 at 00:10 - 240

Our bickering is useless either way, truth is either of us can just as easily be wrong, it's time for anet to quit dicking it up and just answer the simple question, drunkbot, bannable or not, answer that question and the shenanigans over it will end.