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Battle at Lion's Arch, WTH
dorin
Celestina
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Originally Posted by asstaa
Seriously, as long the Lion`s Arch Keep area can be accessed just from the regular Lion's Arch, why do ppl are still asking about ToA and party of 8? It has been mentioned twice (or more till now) that the answer is a big No.
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NerfHerder
/sigh
Even if you run a party of 8 from ToA, once you get to LA your party will split. Since, LA Keep is only accessable from LA, you cant take a party of 8.
Even if you run a party of 8 from ToA, once you get to LA your party will split. Since, LA Keep is only accessable from LA, you cant take a party of 8.
Femmefatal
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Originally Posted by Kelfer
A'net really did it this time!
This is so ridiculously difficult that it's daft.... If they're gonna make something this tricky they might at least let us have a party of 8 w. lvl 20 hench, otherwise this is just a joke! 1. Groups that appear w. 3 bosses in them (wth!). 2. Completely underpowered NPC's as help (these get wiped in about .01 secs). 3. Groups of ca 10 eles w. Unsteady, MS, Savannah and seemlingy 0.5 sec recharge on these skills. 4. Monster skills to which we have absolutely no equivalent (i.e. Spectral agony). And no, Pain Inverter is not the answer on groups of foes using this :/. Addiontally PUGing on things like this is often more of a pain than H/H tbh. If this is an effort from A'net to get us to do more stuff in groups, the point has been missed somewhere. Well, if that's a taste of GW2, or what's to come, count me out! Rant over and out |
Hobbs
Really don't get why people are bitching about this quest, I did it first time in NM H/H with only a couple of wipes right at the end. I used a PvE H/H meta build (Spiritway) with lvl 10 Orion and Alesia with no modifications or adaptations to make it more suitable for the task.
Wicked One
Loved the whole WiK quest chain especially BLA haven't had this much fun or angst in PVE since the 'defend' quests and when Sorrows was first released.
My rit teamed up with my hubby's rit - I ran wanderlust, he ran his SoS build he took 3 necro heroes usual builds and I took Gwen with a mix of Domination (Panic) and heals.
We died horribly a few times thank goodness for honeycombs!
All in all we had a blast and are looking forward to finishing off the WiK storyline on our other characters.
GG Anet you succeed with this one!
My rit teamed up with my hubby's rit - I ran wanderlust, he ran his SoS build he took 3 necro heroes usual builds and I took Gwen with a mix of Domination (Panic) and heals.
We died horribly a few times thank goodness for honeycombs!
All in all we had a blast and are looking forward to finishing off the WiK storyline on our other characters.
GG Anet you succeed with this one!
Painbringer
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/sigh
Even if you run a party of 8 from ToA, once you get to LA your party will split. Since, LA Keep is only accessable from LA, you cant take a party of 8. |
Benderama
as long as you have a Pug this is easier than eternal grove nm (since there are less newbies too, but you know).
*yes on your own it's going to be difficult, but it has a res point *hint* *hint* and aren't blimm and zinn supposed to have some sort of protection weapon? that didn't do anything for us since we held our ground at the first set of stairs, and DP vanishes pretty quickly
*of course it's going to be hard, since it's intended for end game players, and Anet know most inexperienced players have left GW really
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and all this is coming from someone who hasn't done UW!
*yes on your own it's going to be difficult, but it has a res point *hint* *hint* and aren't blimm and zinn supposed to have some sort of protection weapon? that didn't do anything for us since we held our ground at the first set of stairs, and DP vanishes pretty quickly
*of course it's going to be hard, since it's intended for end game players, and Anet know most inexperienced players have left GW really
.and all this is coming from someone who hasn't done UW!
Quaker
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What I find baffling is that they put this in an area where a max crew is 6. You're bound to get raped w. a 6 team at one point or another w. sooooo many foes. (Specially where the hench r lvl 10, gotta laugh yer sox off)
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So far, I've finished this twice (tried it with H/H unsuccessfully a couple of times). Once with a PUG consisting of 3 humans and 3 heroes - a couple of party wipes. And once with a Guildie and 4 heroes plus a conset - a few more wipes.
Like many others, I enjoyed it.
P.S. - the second time, with the Guildie, I noticed about half way through, that I didn't have the quest! /facepalm
Dark Paladin X
Tried this with 2 discord necro mm heroes, rit SoS healer hero, and brought two warrior henchies. I tried this, and it doesn't work. Even if I try different h/h setups, this quest is impossible.
Oh yeah, I was using a rit character using spirit spamming when I failed three times.
And for some reason, some of the NPCs don't rez (the Shining Blade Rangers rezzing would greatly help the mission).
In turn, this quest is impossible. The history between GW and GW2 is a lie.
Oh yeah, I was using a rit character using spirit spamming when I failed three times.
And for some reason, some of the NPCs don't rez (the Shining Blade Rangers rezzing would greatly help the mission).
In turn, this quest is impossible. The history between GW and GW2 is a lie.
Kook~NBK~
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Tried this with 2 discord necro mm heroes, rit SoS healer hero, and brought two warrior henchies. I tried this, and it doesn't work. Even if I try different h/h setups, this quest is impossible.
Oh yeah, I was using a rit character using spirit spamming when I failed three times. And for some reason, some of the NPCs don't rez (the Shining Blade Rangers rezzing would greatly help the mission). In turn, this quest is impossible. The history between GW and GW2 is a lie. |
Apok
This is Dark Paladin, Kook... He thought that the nerf to SF was too much, remember?
Anyway, Splinter/Barrage owns face in this quest.
Anyway, Splinter/Barrage owns face in this quest.
Chthon
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Seriously, as long the Lion`s Arch Keep area can be accessed just from the regular Lion's Arch, why do ppl are still asking about ToA and party of 8? It has been mentioned twice (or more till now) that the answer is a big No.
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Soooo, unless you've tried getting a party of 8 players into LAK and discovered that it did or didn't work in practice, or you can link me to the updates notes where it was changed, I'm really not interested in your opinion on the matter.
Black Metal
chiming in here a bit late.......over the weekend I completed BLA on, count it, 15 characters. Every single one was in a pug, a couple were with one or two people, the rest were split about even between 6 real ppl and 5 ppl 1 hero. My favorite hero build was n/me, 4 minion master skills and 4 dom skills including panic. That build takes care of two roles where you don't need an entire bar for either alone.
I never failed a single time. Granted some were more frustrating than others, and many we had either an armor of salvation or a full conset.
I never failed a single time. Granted some were more frustrating than others, and many we had either an armor of salvation or a full conset.
Apok
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Way back when Defend North Kryta Province was a new quest it was possible to run a party of 8 from ToA to LA, enter LA 8/6, and then exit LA into NKP with a party of 8. I don't see why exiting LA into LAK would be any different. The question is whether an update changed the ability to enter LA 8/6 at some point. I don't remember seeing any update notes about this, but, then again, I wasn't paying much attention to the issue. Hence the question.
Soooo, unless you've tried getting a party of 8 players into LAK and discovered that it did or didn't work in practice, or you can link me to the updates notes where it was changed, I'm really not interested in your opinion on the matter. |
Zeff Nut
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Tried this with 2 discord necro mm heroes, rit SoS healer hero, and brought two warrior henchies. I tried this, and it doesn't work. Even if I try different h/h setups, this quest is impossible.
Oh yeah, I was using a rit character using spirit spamming when I failed three times. And for some reason, some of the NPCs don't rez (the Shining Blade Rangers rezzing would greatly help the mission). In turn, this quest is impossible. The history between GW and GW2 is a lie. |
Meridon
Any suggestions for doing this quest in Hard Mode?
Not only is the extra challenge really awesome, the sheer amount of mobs rolling in should give a nice amount of HM drops - lockpicks, tomes etc.
I'm thinking:
Rt/ Human spirit spammer
N/ Hero AotL MM
UA or ER Human backline.
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3x AoE (Fire or RoJ I guess)
or 2x AoE + 1x Panic Mes
We've tried an Obsitank in NM but the mobs just seem to run past it. Balling them on a human tank doesn't really seem to work.
Not only is the extra challenge really awesome, the sheer amount of mobs rolling in should give a nice amount of HM drops - lockpicks, tomes etc.
I'm thinking:
Rt/ Human spirit spammer
N/ Hero AotL MM
UA or ER Human backline.
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3x AoE (Fire or RoJ I guess)
or 2x AoE + 1x Panic Mes
We've tried an Obsitank in NM but the mobs just seem to run past it. Balling them on a human tank doesn't really seem to work.
majoho
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Tried this with 2 discord necro mm heroes, rit SoS healer hero, and brought two warrior henchies. I tried this, and it doesn't work. Even if I try different h/h setups, this quest is impossible.
Oh yeah, I was using a rit character using spirit spamming when I failed three times. And for some reason, some of the NPCs don't rez (the Shining Blade Rangers rezzing would greatly help the mission). In turn, this quest is impossible. The history between GW and GW2 is a lie. |
Mouse at Large
This quest is fun. Did it with a PUG and though we wiped a couple of times, we got the job done. As far as I can see, the tactic is to gradually concede ground until you are almost fighting at the gate to LA keep. The stairs make a nice choke point for AoE and bring the NPCs into play.
Hard - yes, impossible no
Hard - yes, impossible no
Jk Arrow
I've done it twice now, both times with guildies. I have to say it's the most fun I've had in a mission in a long time so nice job GW team!
First time was group of 5 guildies, one MM hero. We thought going in the E/Mo was an ER healer so we popped cons for him only to find out he was running a nuker. So we managed somehow to finish with NO healer. Wiped a few times towards the end on the Jades but killed last group in the Queen's chamber. Epic.
Second time I ran Barrage/SY, Snow ran Imba. We had rit, MM, Panic, and UA heroes. Never even came close to a party wipe, never came close to one death. Balled up on the stairs nicely, killed quickly, and GG.
I take back what I said eariler about WiK being boring. I'll do all the previous quests now post Riverside Assassination just to get the toons to this mission.
First time was group of 5 guildies, one MM hero. We thought going in the E/Mo was an ER healer so we popped cons for him only to find out he was running a nuker. So we managed somehow to finish with NO healer. Wiped a few times towards the end on the Jades but killed last group in the Queen's chamber. Epic.
Second time I ran Barrage/SY, Snow ran Imba. We had rit, MM, Panic, and UA heroes. Never even came close to a party wipe, never came close to one death. Balled up on the stairs nicely, killed quickly, and GG.
I take back what I said eariler about WiK being boring. I'll do all the previous quests now post Riverside Assassination just to get the toons to this mission.
a-kyle
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A'net really did it this time!
This is so ridiculously difficult that it's daft.... If they're gonna make something this tricky they might at least let us have a party of 8 w. lvl 20 hench, otherwise this is just a joke! 1. Groups that appear w. 3 bosses in them (wth!). 2. Completely underpowered NPC's as help (these get wiped in about .01 secs). 3. Groups of ca 10 eles w. Unsteady, MS, Savannah and seemlingy 0.5 sec recharge on these skills. 4. Monster skills to which we have absolutely no equivalent (i.e. Spectral agony). And no, Pain Inverter is not the answer on groups of foes using this :/. Addiontally PUGing on things like this is often more of a pain than H/H tbh. If this is an effort from A'net to get us to do more stuff in groups, the point has been missed somewhere. Well, if that's a taste of GW2, or what's to come, count me out! Rant over and out |
Kelfer
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its called challenging for a reason and its very amazing how you fail at this game.
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Oh never mind (-:
The main thing is that I manages it twice now w. 2 completely diff. teams and was fun w. a proper team who knew what they were doing.
And yes, it had indeed occurred to me that they purposely put this in an area w. a 6 team.....
Coney
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... over the weekend I completed BLA on, count it, 15 characters ... and many we had either an armor of salvation or a full conset.
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EDIT: Popped armor of salvation and grail of might during jade waves - made it much easier (completed with myself and 4 heroes). I also ate 5 sweets (pumpkin pie, candy corn, candy apple, golden egg, cupcake), just for Shz&gglz.
Essence of celerity would have prolly made it a cake-walk, but I like saving the 4k con from the 7k conset
I also noticed I never got that supposed Zinn gadget buff, and that the last few waves of jades didn't drop a single item...
tooburns
did it with a friend , got it 1st time
Conset ON
Gaki ON lol
i was
War 100b blocking in stairs
friend was
Roj
Hero was
1 x mm
1 x mesmer panic
1 x sos / splinter + some heal
1 x monk healer
i like quest like that lil bit of chalange
Conset ON
Gaki ON lol
i was
War 100b blocking in stairs
friend was
Roj
Hero was
1 x mm
1 x mesmer panic
1 x sos / splinter + some heal
1 x monk healer
i like quest like that lil bit of chalange
Lopezus
Still bad design is bad design. Low level henchmen for master difficult quest is perfect example of it. And don't tell me that it can be done, or about a challage, with 20 lvl henchies it would still be a challage but stupidly hadicapped by bad design.
/endrant
Did it twice in PUG though, with my dervish it went pretty smoothly thanks to full set of consumables and E/Mo ER infuser in group, with my mesmer it went great, panic tottaly shuting down jade armour and cloaks.
/endrant
Did it twice in PUG though, with my dervish it went pretty smoothly thanks to full set of consumables and E/Mo ER infuser in group, with my mesmer it went great, panic tottaly shuting down jade armour and cloaks.
tmakinen
I managed to do it (on the second attempt) with 3 heroes + Alesia + Dunham and as a matter of principle didn't use any consumables whatsoever (summons, buffs, DP removers, what have you) so I probably know how to play.
I still think that lv10 uninfused henches are an absurd handicap to those who like to do things at their own pace.
Furthermore, my team was down at the exact moment when Zinn activated his gadget. This caused them to miss the buff entirely. Since the buff does not vanish when you die (if you did get it), I consider this to be a bug.
However, on the whole the WiK mini-campaign worked rather nicely. Kudos to the live team for free content!
I still think that lv10 uninfused henches are an absurd handicap to those who like to do things at their own pace.
Furthermore, my team was down at the exact moment when Zinn activated his gadget. This caused them to miss the buff entirely. Since the buff does not vanish when you die (if you did get it), I consider this to be a bug.
However, on the whole the WiK mini-campaign worked rather nicely. Kudos to the live team for free content!
Commander Kanen
i did this H/H on my para
i failed a couple times. i tried disco and B/P and that didnt work.
I did it with
me as a SoS
HB monk /heal prot hybrid
Lingering curse nec with some anti mele and conditions
Gwen as a panic Dominator with loads of interupts.
i failed a couple times. i tried disco and B/P and that didnt work.
I did it with
me as a SoS
HB monk /heal prot hybrid
Lingering curse nec with some anti mele and conditions
Gwen as a panic Dominator with loads of interupts.
Scary
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A'net really did it this time!
This is so ridiculously difficult that it's daft.... If they're gonna make something this tricky they might at least let us have a party of 8 w. lvl 20 hench, otherwise this is just a joke! 1. Groups that appear w. 3 bosses in them (wth!). 2. Completely underpowered NPC's as help (these get wiped in about .01 secs). 3. Groups of ca 10 eles w. Unsteady, MS, Savannah and seemlingy 0.5 sec recharge on these skills. 4. Monster skills to which we have absolutely no equivalent (i.e. Spectral agony). And no, Pain Inverter is not the answer on groups of foes using this :/. Addiontally PUGing on things like this is often more of a pain than H/H tbh. If this is an effort from A'net to get us to do more stuff in groups, the point has been missed somewhere. Well, if that's a taste of GW2, or what's to come, count me out! Rant over and out |
Being busy and all, Ive did the quest just yesturday with one guildie.
He said 'shall we go glaive , So I anwserd..no lets go with a random hero team. Its more fun.
So that is what we did. 1 Ele nuker with savannah heat, 1 Ne/Rt healer.
1 Lich Necro I my self was a Necro with main on blood and life transfer and some on death with Putrid explosion.
My guildie was a SoS Rt. And he had a HB monk hero.
Yea we get killd I'll guess 3 times. But still ended it with a lot of fun.
Well If this is a taste of GW 2.. Count me in
DokkyDok
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Anyone did it on their Sin yet? I got a feeling because of the large damage dealing mobs a dagger sin or a scythe sin isn't the way to go here.
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arcanemacabre
You know, this was an incredibly fun quest, but difficult? I though it was hard at first until I realized a) when you party wiped you didn't auto-fail like most missions and b) we were in hard mode. We still only wiped twice, and still beat it on the first try. I had a harder time dealing with some WiK White Mantle groups and that one quest where you get the golem banners than this one.
That said, I would love more quests like this. It really was the right level of challenge (not too hard like the ones I listed above, and not too easy, either). I also love swarming quests where the mobs just keep throwing themselves at you. I would play more of the challenge missions if they actually gave decent rewards for this reason.
That said, I would love more quests like this. It really was the right level of challenge (not too hard like the ones I listed above, and not too easy, either). I also love swarming quests where the mobs just keep throwing themselves at you. I would play more of the challenge missions if they actually gave decent rewards for this reason.
Notorious Bob
Why does everything have to be so easy and dumbed down that a 3 yr old can do it?
If you can't PvE, no nothing about body-blocking, kiting, flagging and can't be bothered to join or lead a PuG then really, why are you even playing GW?
H+H requires a little thought and planning, trial and error.
PuG just requires leadership and management of the odd Leroy Jenkins who wants to charge out through the gates
OP: Play the game better and stop QQ'ing that GW should be dumbed down to your level.
If you can't PvE, no nothing about body-blocking, kiting, flagging and can't be bothered to join or lead a PuG then really, why are you even playing GW?
H+H requires a little thought and planning, trial and error.
PuG just requires leadership and management of the odd Leroy Jenkins who wants to charge out through the gates
OP: Play the game better and stop QQ'ing that GW should be dumbed down to your level.
CE Devilman
all U need is a 2th player (or 2th acc)..gwen and 3 necro
bu - armor -stones-and dp remover
push and fall back to steps...push and fall back..
from right to left : heros - 1th acc - 2 th acc
(note:gwen and a necro skills after U prof. on 1th acc)
still need to do : necro - dervish
im more a fan of :Psychic Instability + Symbolic Celerity
bu - armor -stones-and dp remover
push and fall back to steps...push and fall back..
from right to left : heros - 1th acc - 2 th acc
(note:gwen and a necro skills after U prof. on 1th acc)
still need to do : necro - dervish
im more a fan of :Psychic Instability + Symbolic Celerity
system.fan
Well I don't know why so many people are crying around....
All say GW is dead and boring and shit like that and now Anet gives some Quest that takes more than 3minutes and people are like... "thats too difficult, GW sucks blah blah"...
I did it with my Ranger few days ago.
Had a group with:
1 Sos (me)
1 SY-Spammer-Assassin
1 MM
2 Nukers
1 Monk
All real players...
Used 1 BU and 1 Armor...
Finished it in ~40 Minutes without any player dying.... And it was a lot of fun... some kind of hack'n'slay lol
Greetz
All say GW is dead and boring and shit like that and now Anet gives some Quest that takes more than 3minutes and people are like... "thats too difficult, GW sucks blah blah"...
I did it with my Ranger few days ago.
Had a group with:
1 Sos (me)
1 SY-Spammer-Assassin
1 MM
2 Nukers
1 Monk
All real players...
Used 1 BU and 1 Armor...
Finished it in ~40 Minutes without any player dying.... And it was a lot of fun... some kind of hack'n'slay lol
Greetz
chadS
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Well I don't know why so many people are crying around....
All say GW is dead and boring and shit like that and now Anet gives some Quest that takes more than 3minutes and people are like... "thats too difficult, GW sucks blah blah"... |
And eventually everyone will have gotten their weapons and won't doing the quest line, then there will be some people that didn't already do it, and will be no one to help them and have to deal with the quests with lvl 10 hench.
maxxfury
[QUOTE=chadS;5197984GW is dead and boring. When people have been playing this game for 5 years, there truthly is nothing exciting to do[/QUOTE]
Not everyone has been playing since beta and not everyone is bored yet
Tho i have, and there isnt a whole lot to get me overly interested
Not everyone has been playing since beta and not everyone is bored yet
Tho i have, and there isnt a whole lot to get me overly interested
system.fan
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GW is dead and boring. When people have been playing this game for 5 years, there truthly is nothing exciting to do. Sure this WiK stuff is fun, but it's already over.
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And eventually everyone will have gotten their weapons and won't doing the quest line, then there will be some people that didn't already do it, and will be no one to help them and have to deal with the quests with lvl 10 hench.
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And I think it's still possible to find some guildmate helping you with a quest...
greetz
The Josip
Great quest, I H/Hed it with another person since I have more faith in heroes than PuGs
We fought entirely between first Lion's Arch gates through which enemies enter, and first stairs. There was no camping on any choke points, but fight in the open field. Before arrival of the mob I'd pull back to the stairs, evaluate the mob, and then just charge. Was kinda surprised that I didn't need to pull back, nor did I need to camp choke points.
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I'll join the suggestion someone else made: make it repeatable (of course, with a small reward not full reward).
Yea. If they can't C+space it, they'll complain. Great quest, great difficulty balance. Even if I failed this quest I would still say it's fun.
We fought entirely between first Lion's Arch gates through which enemies enter, and first stairs. There was no camping on any choke points, but fight in the open field. Before arrival of the mob I'd pull back to the stairs, evaluate the mob, and then just charge. Was kinda surprised that I didn't need to pull back, nor did I need to camp choke points.
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I'll join the suggestion someone else made: make it repeatable (of course, with a small reward not full reward).
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Well I don't know why so many people are crying around....
All say GW is dead and boring and shit like that and now Anet gives some Quest that takes more than 3minutes and people are like... "thats too difficult, GW sucks blah blah"... |
Lanier
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GW is dead and boring. When people have been playing this game for 5 years, there truthly is nothing exciting to do. Sure this WiK stuff is fun, but it's already over.
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In my opinion, the game is still very fun and very alive. I think there is a lot of exciting stuff to do like VQing, clearing dungeons, and randomwaying the FoW and UW with my guildies.
Del
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GW is dying and boring. When people have been playing this game for 5 years, there truthly is nothing exciting to do. Sure this WiK stuff is fun, but it's already over.
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chadS
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Fixed, also, as said above, not everyone has been playing for 5 years. And to those that are bored with gw, no one is forcing them to play(or go to gw fansites and post drivel).
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