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Silverblad3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

UK

I use to love CB :(

Mo/

20 Aug 2010 at 12:53 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

All: I just want to emphasize that some of what John is talking about in the interview is not planned, so for example please don't go thinking you'll get 7 Hero parties in the future just because John says he is open to them. Thanks.

Read: We dont want to give you updates on the status of updates or communicate plans for GW so dont make anything of what we say in interviews because the CR role of communicating to you about content and updates is non-existent and we would like to keep it that way.

Xiaquin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2010

[aRIN]

R/

20 Aug 2010 at 13:25 - 82

I think those of us who listened to the interview understood that John made it clear that he was open to removing the hero limit, but he didn't have a magic wand he could wave. I urge people to actually go hear what he has to say, instead of take it out of context. He's pretty excited to do a lot of things, but there's only so much you can do and the rest are dreams.

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

20 Aug 2010 at 13:27 - 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverblad3

Read: We dont want to give you updates on the status of updates or communicate plans for GW so dont make anything of what we say in interviews because the CR role of communicating to you about content and updates is non-existent and we would like to keep it that way.

while thats bad, its not far as worse into misleading people to thinking they're gonna get these "amazing" updates when in reality they won't.

the last decent anet 'real' news we got was when they previewed the mesmer skills. i hope they plan to do the same for the dervish ones--and since we haven't gotten a preview yet, i think its safe to say it won't be coming for at least another 2 months?

Silverblad3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

UK

I use to love CB :(

Mo/

20 Aug 2010 at 13:36 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaek

while thats bad, its not far as worse into misleading people to thinking they're gonna get these "amazing" updates when in reality they won't.

Do not worry there is no misleading when there is very little communication from CR about content, updates, status of updates and planned content. All people do is make assumptions so go knock yourself out and speculate, which everyone has no choice to do due to the sad state of communication in regards to updates etc.

To prove my point you speculated right? So funny......

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

20 Aug 2010 at 13:42 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by Life Bringing

Read: Don't get too excited, none of this is going to happen in the near future.

^ this. Sorry if my post was misleading. The summary is in quotes because it's a statement I quoted from GW2Guru.

John said that all of these things are "possibilities" or that he's "open to them". That doesn't mean they're going to happen.

And, like Lemming said earlier, when (in the last 2 years) has Anet delivered on those types of goals?

EDIT: However, I think it's nice to have hope. You never know. Some of this may actually happen before GW2 comes out and officially buries GW's coffin.

R_Frost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

Me/

20 Aug 2010 at 13:54 - 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

All: I just want to emphasize that some of what John is talking about in the interview is not planned, so for example please don't go thinking you'll get 7 Hero parties in the future just because John says he is open to them. Thanks.

impressive, a response before it hit 15-20 pages

but seriously hopefully as the community relations person, i hope you have or will tell John that over the past 2 years 7 hero's is probably one of the biggest changes the community has favored to be made no matter how much we have been told it will never happen. just as other stuff we were always told would never happen, name changes, more storage, on character inventory space, yet those finally did happen.

hmm the 6 year anniversary is 8 months off, plenty of time to code the change into the game. or better yet, wintersday is 4 months off, time to make new scavenger hunt type quests to unlock the extra 4 hero slots seeing he said he would like to add new stuff to the festivals.

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

20 Aug 2010 at 14:14 - 87

I love my guild, but getting them organized for even the simplest mission is a chore. We always have to wait for this person or that person, then Suzy Liveathomemom has to stop to change little Johnny's diaper or make big Johnny's dinner. It's always something, so I H/H most of the time. Finally, I'd rather hit myself in the head with a hammer than pug.

Seven heroes PLEASE!!!!

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

20 Aug 2010 at 14:21 - 88

Mmmm, I'd really like to see 7 heroes. Cheers to hoping it comes true.

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

20 Aug 2010 at 14:22 - 89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

All: I just want to emphasize that some of what John is talking about in the interview is not planned, so for example please don't go thinking you'll get 7 Hero parties in the future just because John says he is open to them. Thanks.

ArenaNet: I just want to emphasize that some of what people are talking on fansites are not guaranteed. Like us, buying your next game. So please don't go thinking GW2 will be as successful as GW Prophecies. Think more around the critical acclaim of Eye of the North. Th~aaaanks!

Lord Dagon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2009

Inside the Oblivion Gate

The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE]

E/Me

20 Aug 2010 at 14:25 - 90

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

All: I just want to emphasize that some of what John is talking about in the interview is not planned, so for example please don't go thinking you'll get 7 Hero parties in the future just because John says he is open to them. Thanks.

i read outta this:*insert middle finger to people in this thread here from anet* sorry we can talk the talk but we cant ever walk the walk.

well thats depressing. But hey school starts soon anyway probably wont play for like a good 3 months before winter break. Might come back and find out im wrong xD.

Silverblad3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

UK

I use to love CB :(

Mo/

20 Aug 2010 at 14:28 - 91

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

ArenaNet: I just want to emphasize that some of what people are talking on fansites are not guaranteed. Like us, buying your next game. So please don't go thinking GW2 will be as successful as GW Prophecies. Think more around the critical acclaim of Eye of the North. Th~aaaanks!

QFT.....I still do not think they get the message. I have yet to post on GW2guru about what I have seen on General Wars 2 where button mashing represents visually crazy numbers till most things are dead.

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

20 Aug 2010 at 15:54 - 92

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverblad3

Do not worry there is no misleading when there is very little communication from CR about content, updates, status of updates and planned content. All people do is make assumptions so go knock yourself out and speculate, which everyone has no choice to do due to the sad state of communication in regards to updates etc.

To prove my point you speculated right? So funny......

not all of it is speculation. remember when they said content updates every 3-4 months? or how bout when they said bimonthly skill updates?

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

20 Aug 2010 at 15:55 - 93

by the time this stuff is all in the game i will be playing gw2.

Lanier

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

[Pink]

P/

20 Aug 2010 at 16:12 - 94

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazilla

by the time this stuff is all in the game i will be playing gw2.

The depends of course on how much longer it will take for GW2 to be released. Our updates may be coming at a very slow pace but I dont see GW2 in the near future either.

vandevere

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Great State of Denial

W/Mo

20 Aug 2010 at 16:20 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanier

The depends of course on how much longer it will take for GW2 to be released. Our updates may be coming at a very slow pace but I dont see GW2 in the near future either.

Besides, just because I get GW2 doesn't mean I'll completely abandon GW1. I could probably hop between the two games quite happily...

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

20 Aug 2010 at 16:40 - 96

Best bet is to expect nothing...then when even close to nothing comes....at least it's something

coehl

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2010

Relics of Orr

20 Aug 2010 at 16:40 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by R_Frost

interesting stuff. kinda sad it hit GW2Guru first before here since it does deal with GW1 stuff.

It hit both forums at the same time. I posted it in Community Works, not Riverside Inn. I appreciate that someone more savvy to GWGuru's flow brought up the discussion here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiaquin

I think those of us who listened to the interview understood that John made it clear that he was open to removing the hero limit, but he didn't have a magic wand he could wave. I urge people to actually go hear what he has to say, instead of take it out of context. He's pretty excited to do a lot of things, but there's only so much you can do and the rest are dreams.

Exactly. What I, and I think John too, wanted to emphasize was that the mindset and direction of Guild Wars is changing on account of John and his vision. Not "You will see things change as of the end of this recording as I wave my Jedi powers before the team."

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

20 Aug 2010 at 16:48 - 98

Or a.k.a. we talk about this cool stuff you can/may have to raise your hopes then so we can dash them and laugh. Im all for the 7 heros, because like someone mentioned you have to wait for so and so or have to get on at weird hours just to have human help. 7 heros would allow you to play at times you cant get human help. i can only hope we get at least half of what the guy said if we cant get it all.

beaztor

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2009

Mo/

20 Aug 2010 at 16:54 - 99

I can only hope for a festival hat event weekend

All foe's drop a random hat from the entire hat collection.
There are plenty of people out there who have missed 1 or more events & would love to get the full collection on their account. I myself missed 2 events and couldn't be happier to get them.
7 hero's on my team? Oh My Gosh Yes Please!!!
Looking forward to new gw things to come.

NerfHerder

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2010

20 Aug 2010 at 17:01 - 100

I think most of us agree, not everything in Stummes interview is going to be implemented in a timely manner and some of them may never happen. At least I understand that. But with that being said. Its pretty obvious what the community wants. MOAR HEROS!

Sure, some content would need to be adjusted to compensate. But, thats what keeps the game fun and exciting.

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

20 Aug 2010 at 17:21 - 101

Quote:

Originally Posted by NerfHerder

I think most of us agree, not everything in Stummes interview is going to be implemented in a timely manner and some of them may never happen. At least I understand that. But with that being said. Its pretty obvious what the community wants. MOAR HEROS!

I have to agree. I'm a pretty casual GW gamer at this point and forming PUGs/Guildies to do dungeons isn't fun anymore and it just takes too long.

As was said earlier in this thread, if someone wants to PUG, they're going to PUG regardless of how many heroes they can have. If someone doesn't want to PUG, then they'll take AI no matter what. That's how it is.

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

20 Aug 2010 at 17:24 - 102

It would still be nice to get some nice Monk buffs Amity,Pacifism.

Anon-e-mouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

@ Home

League Of Friends [LOF]

R/Mo

20 Aug 2010 at 17:46 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

All: I just want to emphasize that some of what John is talking about in the interview is not planned, so for example please don't go thinking you'll get 7 Hero parties in the future just because John says he is open to them. Thanks.

Well I'd rather what John says he'd like to happen, to actually happen, there's that's my feedback Ms Community person.

belshazaarswrath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

AMP

20 Aug 2010 at 19:19 - 104

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

All: I just want to emphasize that some of what John is talking about in the interview is not planned, so for example please don't go thinking you'll get 7 Hero parties in the future just because John says he is open to them. Thanks.

Well that's pretty disappointing. You really shouldn't have one of your guys saying all these things if its not all on the Agenda. I'm sure we could all come up with some wild fantasy update for Guild Wars that will make the game super exciting again. But we have no authority over that so everyone accepts it as just whimsy. But when someone with some control over the game says things in the way he did it is pretty disappointing to hear it was all/partially just fantasy.

Meh...this is what I get for placing hope in Anet. Stupid me. Won't happen again.

Ka Tet

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Pita Bread And Scud Missiles Ai[iiii]

20 Aug 2010 at 19:47 - 105

This is the part where I say. "Told you so." See post on page 2.
The best part of that interview was the interviewer's nearly prescient reference to gated responses and people whining based on speculation.
Seriously though, you've got to be fair, you guys did it to yourselves. Stumme never said they were working on it or even planning it, he just said it was under consideration.

EDIT: You know that people are getting crazy when I'm the one stepping up to defend Anet.

Femmefatal

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2010

21 Aug 2010 at 00:45 - 106

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

All: I just want to emphasize that some of what John is talking about in the interview is not planned, so for example please don't go thinking you'll get 7 Hero parties in the future just because John says he is open to them. Thanks.

Awww that's such bs. Get us all worked up and ready to pop and then you don't finish the job!!

See it's stuff like that that make me not want to play GW1 or even buy GW2. Don't say things like you're open to this or that if you aren't going to go through with it.

coehl

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2010

Relics of Orr

21 Aug 2010 at 02:00 - 107

Woah. I thought the WoW community was full of dramatists. Regina hasn't doubled back on anything John said. If you want something to cry about, I highly recommend watching some of The Daily Show or something.
Much love Walkin.

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

21 Aug 2010 at 02:07 - 108

Quote:

Originally Posted by Femmefatal

Awww that's such bs. Get us all worked up and ready to pop and then you don't finish the job!!

See it's stuff like that that make me not want to play GW1 or even buy GW2. Don't say things like you're open to this or that if you aren't going to go through with it.

he was pretty clear that they were just ideas he had in his head. he NEVER once said he was definitely implementing this stuff or didn't you listen to the podcast?

Owik Gall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guardians of the Light

W/Mo

21 Aug 2010 at 03:29 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

All: I just want to emphasize that some of what John is talking about in the interview is not planned, so for example please don't go thinking you'll get 7 Hero parties in the future just because John says he is open to them. Thanks.

I guess that makes John not entirely the voice representative of the Anet team? Lol! Well, Regina was given that role anyways, so we best be listening to her than anyone. In this case more than John. It still won't quiet down the 7 hero request trend, at least from what I think. From the original post, he said that the team might be trying something new involving heroes, but that's a big MIGHT.

I think in all honesty John has probably goofed when he said he was opened to 7 hero teams in the interview. His statement didn't reflect Anets intention, yet some people (mainly the people in this thread) took it as such just because he's a member of the team. People has to be careful what they say before they start a wide spread misconception. Lol!

belshazaarswrath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

AMP

21 Aug 2010 at 03:32 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by Owik Gall

I guess that makes John not entirely the voice representative of the Anet team? Lol! Well, Regina was given that role anyways, so we best be listening to her than anyone. In this case more than John. It still won't quiet down the 7 hero request trend, at least from what I think. From the original post, he said that the team might be trying something new involving heroes, but that's a big MIGHT.

I think in all honesty John has probably goofed when he said he was opened to 7 hero teams in the interview. His statement didn't reflect Anets intention, yet some people (mainly the people in this thread) took it as such just because he's a member of the team. People has to be careful what they say before they start a wide spread misconception. Lol!

Exactly. He didn't say directly "I will do these things and soon" but he didn't say "so yea don't hold your breath" either. He left room for us to get excited. Then the excitement was squelched. Which is a bummer.

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

21 Aug 2010 at 03:37 - 111

Actually, allowing me to use a full team of heroes (in every PvE area, including Elite), is the only thing that could make me to play PvE again.

If they do it in PvP too (allowing me to solo GvG and HA) could make me to play this game insanely everyday.

That part (the PvP one) sound crazy, but I imagine the player population will decrease someday (I hope in a far future) after GW2 release.

NerfHerder

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2010

21 Aug 2010 at 04:17 - 112

I dont recall many people saying that they were expecting 7 heros and all the goodiness in the interview. All I see are people agreeing that it would be a good idea to implement them.

Ellix Cantero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

21 Aug 2010 at 12:04 - 113

Why not come to some sort of amicable agreement? ANET can profit from seven (or even eleven) heroes by selling the capacity to unlock them in the in-game store (which would surely piss some off, but oh well, it'd be the first thing being sold in the stores since the additional storage that I would give two #@%#s about).

ANET gets some additional and probably by this point much needed fundage, and the playerbase gets something they almost universally want.

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

21 Aug 2010 at 12:40 - 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by tha walkin dude

EDIT: You know that people are getting crazy when I'm the one stepping up to defend Anet.

The World has been turned upside down, lol.

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

21 Aug 2010 at 13:44 - 115

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellix Cantero

Why not come to some sort of amicable agreement? ANET can profit from seven (or even eleven) heroes by selling the capacity to unlock them in the in-game store (which would surely piss some off, but oh well, it'd be the first thing being sold in the stores since the additional storage that I would give two #@%#s about).

ANET gets some additional and probably by this point much needed fundage, and the playerbase gets something they almost universally want.

Hmmm i can see a shitload of drama coming from this.

So ok, a few clever people instantly buy all the slots they need, then create some meta build for the heroes that allows you to do DoA, fow and dungeons rather quickly and in order to enjoy this new gimmick you would have to pay for it. I dont have a problem paying for additional heroes, but a lot of people do, hence all the drama when good 7 hero builds start popping up.

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

21 Aug 2010 at 15:00 - 116

Quote:

Originally Posted by EPO Bot

Seven hero play becomes more and more justified as more people have played this game to death and move on. But it allso means the permanent end of pugs.

Nah. I could do all of WiK (save possibly the final mission, never tried) with H/H, and yet I PUG-ed quite extensively just for fun. I never went wanting for a team when I wanted one, at least for the first week or two after new content had been released, which leads me to believe there are plenty of other people who feel the same.

Bring on 7 hero teams. Then we can finally settle the debate over whether heroes "killed" PUGs or not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverblad3

Read: We dont want to give you updates on the status of updates or communicate plans for GW so dont make anything of what we say in interviews because the CR role of communicating to you about content and updates is non-existent and we would like to keep it that way.

Try: We need to make sure that you understand the difference between a "promise" and an "idea", because this community is full of whiny brats who will constantly complain about everything no matter how open or closed we are about our update schedule.

Frozenface

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

21 Aug 2010 at 15:03 - 117

yay, this all sounds pretty good to me. now if only I could find some more time to play.

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

22 Aug 2010 at 00:04 - 118

Nice things to hear.

Femmefatal

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2010

22 Aug 2010 at 00:09 - 119

Man I was so ready for 7 heroes and ready to play this game again. I have so much extra stuff to put on 7 heroes and I sure wanted to try that 3 necros 3 elementalists and a mesmer group and me...sniff. I just discovered blood bond and its healing ability and it's great with minions and or melee characters.

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

22 Aug 2010 at 00:17 - 120

Btw I'd edit the first post to include Regina's post as a quote, as i know some people skip the whole thread or even miss the point entirely