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Hell no, you speak for a lot of people that would disagree with you.

A while ago I thought 7 heroes would be cool too, turns out I was just slacking off in game, huge imbalance and a loss of value for anything and everything.

What are you talking about? How would having more heroes make the game imbalanced?

The game has been imbalanced since they introduced any heroes and consumables. Might as well go the whole 9 yards and add the other 4 heroes. Just about everybody wants them. I'm not going to play with pugs anymore so might as well let me have a full team of what I like to build and play.

This. +1 char

As I said previously that looks like it wont happen

Just a point again...Why give us 26 Heros in total if they did not think 7 was unacceptable

Done and done.

I can't believe how far out of context Regina's words got taken.

When I used to work with light software development for a mechanical contractor (a lot of old redneck, computer illiterate types) they would often ask me if I could have the software do something. I would tell them "I'm pretty sure, and I would like to make it do that."
Now they would turn around and tell the entire company that I had promised them the feature.

I would step in and say "I'm exploring how to do it. It probably can be done, but I'm not promising."

The way you guys are reacting is similar to if the company had responded to me thusly.

"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!" Then my boss throwing himself on the floor and pounding his fists at the ground. "But you said you would make it happen. Now you're saying it can't happen. That's not fair!"

John's aim is still as it was in the interview. Regina clarified that none of what was said was a promise, just an indication of direction. That's it. End.

i find it funny you think it would imbalance the game. i hate to tell you but it was inbalanced a long time ago. 7 heroes wont hurt the game. it would allow us to play the game when we cant get help or just want to be along for awhile. having 7 heros would allow people like me to do stuff without having to wait hours for human help.

I don't know how anyone thinks heroes imbalanced the game. They exist so that you don't have to depend on human players to get through content, especially when there are simply none available.

Everyone says they killed pugs, but they didn't. People finish content and move on, they don't stick around when there are titles to max and farms to grind. It's perfectly justified to throw players a bone and let them play at their own paces and times.

As nice as 7 hero parties would be, it's not like its necessary for the game. I would say that i would only really like to see 7 hero parties available for fow, doa, etc(ie, areas that you can't h/h because there are no henchmen). Every other area of the game is simple enough already that there is really no need for 7 heroes.

well, i'm happy thatb at least i'm not the only one who likes full hero team
guilds lately all die, friends are too busy with their stuff, so i made my own solo guild, lol
a place to relax and to figure out heroes and own armors

i'm gonna do this short:

i got an accident when was 11, have absences, cant move very well, being slow at both moving and thinking, cant concentrate
and some more.... or wasnt that enough? :P

1 BIG reason why i need help, and i got lots of help just to complete NM stuff, and now that the ones who liked to help, dont like to play GW anymore, i'm alone most of the times

with 5/7 heroes (5 from yaks bend til droknar, and from there 7) i could do aloooooot more than i'm able to now
the only ones i get help with are people who like to try and the very few friends who havent left GW "yet"
imagine me being able to do most NM with heroes only, it was a dream of mine all the time, since most left GW in short amount of time, and now it got mentioned

i was happy for 1 evening and night, til the line which says we shouldnt count on it to come was been seen by me

all i do lately in gw is chatting and easy stuff which even i can do
but anet can make me happy when i can do much more on my own
if it wont happen, i may leave this game soon, not only because i want it, the major reason is that i finally can play when noone is able to help

ps. plz dont tell me the game is easy, or way too easy, because i gave some reason which showed everyone its pretty tough for me

hench? they wont die, as newbies get into GW all the time, and some people may not like to use heroes cuz they either are bad at builds, too lazy to build heroes, or simply dont like heroes

and as an extra, people who never could do hard places, like UW FoW DoA etc. can now finally see what those are about (also said by Life Bringing, i see)

go anet, show us some nice moves before more quit gw, or before gw2 comes, cuz after gw2, this good old gw will be as good as dead (not right away, but faster than the times i lost alot of friends in gw, which were too fast already)

I would so LOVE to get to play with 7 heroes.

In your opinion. There are quite a few people that would like them for nasty things like Destruction's Depths and just about every dungeon. Let's not forget Nightfall forces heroes in your mission groups. Ones that require Koss or Melonni are particularly annoying in this way. There's nothing worse than setting up a beautifully synergistic hero team only to find out Margrid has to come and throw off the entire balance.

haha, nice to see you here

it makes the game easier to play, not the game itself being easier
good heroes setups may equal them to good players

i've seen enough people leave, some with warnings and others without saying goodbye
so heroes couold replace the friends in teams, not chatting or such, but still... it can be easier to complete stuff

as for UW and such, most of em are played by people who are too good, the rest of us arent as good, or fast/good enough to use the pvx builds
pvx isnt as good as youtube, as youtube has videos showing how to use em

i doubt they will make it possible, as i've seen nothing but changes against mem like HM, at a time people only played HM and thought NM sux, so they didnt wanna help me cuz i was doing NM, and without thinking about what i said before (read my other post), they still said: you can do it, so i was useless in the game

i decided not to buy another char slot for a paragon, as i cant do much on my own anyway, and i dont play the game much either, just chatting and doing stuff i CAN do on my own, and sometimes someone helps me, but also is busy mostly

for now i like that change just to experience the game without failing all the time, which i still do after 60 months playing

also, i wanted to quit gw a few times before, and i thought of not trying gw2 at all cuz i thought i'd end up the same way....

the only ones who can help are the ones from ArenaNet... so, will they??

I know this isnt the place but with guru search down for me i cant close my wtb thread to make a question thread. i saw a guy doing a new scam like the snowflake one. this time it involves the ore quest item from sorrows forge. i called him out on it in local chat in la aed dis1 and kama aed dis 2. now he just whsped me saying i verbal abused him. how do i send a ticket to tell them(dervs,who ever) my side?:confused sorry if i am a bit worried since i was banned once by mistake and dont want it to happen again.

I like the 7 hero-party idea.

Makes me want to test all different kind of combinations and builds of my heroes!

However, a party consisting of 2 humans and 6 heroes is pretty common and you're able to do almost everything with it. That's only 1 other player! I'm sure that even in GW today you are able to find one person to do then same thing

Nevertherless this might just encourage a lot of people to finally rune, weapon and load a proper build on their heroes.

I honestly believe it doesn't goes through though

Well it would be easy to do. The majority of players want it. the new guy is willing to do it. If they don't end up doing it that'd be a dick move.

I agree.

I think that at a certain point, they are even forced to do this.
Titles and HoM are fun and kept most of us busy for a while but let's face it, it's becoming more and more of a dead game. The release of GW2 will only contribute to this.

Ah well, we can always just buy 7 more accounts and link em to 1 keyboard as seen in another topic

I think Guild Wars is old enough to warrant having full-on seven hero play. Activity level has dwindled down to the point where only guild-based activities and H/H soloing is all that ever happens anymore. Nobody wants to deal with incognizant, compulsive, and careless players, and so they turn to their non-player character friends like Koss or Mhenlo because they at least follow targets and follow directions [albeit they have no choice... lol]. I think it's about time Anet finally allowed full soloing capabilities. That, and nobody would know what builds a single player's using to do anything. Also, they can finally test out a team build that they'd otherwise never get the chance to see results on.

Hmmm - ambivalent on this - I enjoy pugging

Anyhow, just think of the uberness of a combined spiritway/sabway hero setup. Steamroller much????

7 Hero's YEeeessss.. PuG's will still exists within the Ally's so
Plsss asap with the 7 hero's.

more consumables.. Always like new things

dont forget that even with discord/sabway + spiritway may not make just anything that much easier
i used sabway and i liked it, but when i changed em into discord, i survived much more
still, discord wont work just anywhere, and there always are better builds for heroes
also, my necro wanna use well spells, kinda going against a MM hero

and of course i'd like to make builds, so i cant use discord and/or spiritway all the time

my major reason for the full hero team (7 almost anywhere, except for kryta, there's 5, unless going from ToA)
and to make replacements for those who helped me mostly and left gw cuz they found it boring
tbh, i wanted to leave not long ago cuz i was bored, this is the only thing which can let me stay

to make it more fun, let us get it after some funny quest, lol, a quest to get more heroes in your team when alone

first thing i'd do is vq and dungeons on NM, just to feel how it is to do em on my own
even though heroes cant ever keep up with very good players, they still make playing the game easier, which is my dream for a long time now

its true, someone i know didnt believe there was talks about this cuz i wanted it so badly, so he thought i was joking

when i made this suggestion on another forum long ago, i got lots of negative replies, but now people mostly like it... oh well, its only better

I would say only for some elite areas my discord team kicked ass, in NM and HM in all campaigns. Discord + spirit way = automatic win and would make the game even more easier.
I wonder what your main characters profession is that discord didn't work for you?

1. look under my avatar, rit
2. i'm not good at the game itself, actually bad at like half or more at NM, and 90% at HM

i had an accident which damaged my body (mostly my brains) which caused me to react very slow and i have absences (search on google, its a form of epilepsy) which means i cant concentrate at all, not just gw is a problem for me, alot more, like walking over street can be dangerous as i may walk over with absence and see or hear nothing

with 3 discord heroes i can at least do some more than almost nothing, but i cant do dungeons on NM, and most missions are a problem for me
full hero team will make it easier, and more doable, it wont be too easy for me

again: it has nothing to do with prof or builds.....
dont worry though, even in reallife not much people understand it, not all, just a bit

ps. i hope my bad english is understandable, sometimes i cant get the right words

also, discord wont work everywhere, it has a MM, and like oola's has no corpses, as far as i know
some places need other builds

I understand quite good, also not English. I think we are both Dutch?

But I did not see the part, or did not understand about your slower reaction time. Sometimes that would become a problem, dungeons especially because of the traps.
I did Oola's just fine with discord, just not as much minions but they are just a bonus. And as a rit who needs minions

i dont need minions, just good heroes, and 7 in a team would make the game possible for me without help, seeing the current community ingame, more playable

yes, both dutch it seems

I'd love to see seven heroes

This is dreamland also but it'd be cool if you could make the other characters on your account useable as a hero also - be nice to be able to run around with them - obviously they'd have to have no pve skills restrictions and experience restrictions (so you can't power level/survivor them) but that'd be awesome!

I like this idea also as just give my other characters the hero programs for their class and then all my characters can play instead of that silly Koss and Dunkirk and Gwen etc. etc. This could actually revive the game, but, as I'm pretty sure Anet and NCsoft doesn't want to do that with GW2 coming as it might bite into their sales if this game became unboring.

This ^ is the reason why we need 7 heroes so we never have to interact with schitty players an elitists like IT. They don't ever know what they are talking about. They lie for the most part and will say anything to boost their own agenda while degrading others. So take your trolling self to another board you're /ignored here now.

7 hero teams would be like a dream come true but the time it'll take to implement might be too long.

I dont think it would take that much to implement 7 heros. Some of the UI would have to be reworked, but the base for it is already there.

dreamland? cuz of my kirby avatar?

anyways, that suggestion has been made before NF
maybe thats what heroes do, that may be why we have heroes now
making full hero teams (not just 7, as northern shiverpeaks, kryta, maguuma and desert have a max of 6, so means 5 heroes) takes some time, could be done in some days if they work on it right now (i think), but making your own chars act as heroes (which would be offensive to your own made chars) will take much longer

if they think about it now, and they start about a few months, we wont use it as gw2 is out by the time they are finished (or gw2 takes em even longer)

forget the suggestion of heroes using pve only skills, make us use more heroes of our own at a time

*never thought i'd say this*, but: giving heroes pve only skill will overpower them, let us have full hero party wont, not for normal players, or farmers, maybe for title grinders, but thats what everyone does already anyways

after alot of people got what they wanted, they quit cuz gw is boring to em, with more heroes at least alot may come back, just to try out builds for full hero teams, and maybe they come back for a long time, maybe even will buy stuff like character slots (could also be an advantage for anet), not to forget that people who play gw may buy gw2 right after release, while people who found other games they like, may say: not yet, maybe(ouch) later, or they say: no thx, they dont listen to our ideas anyway (double ouch)

maybe it sounds like an excuse, but it goes like that
and people who still are playing wont quit sooner if they like it, and alot of us like it

i even will play more gw, as i can do much more than just chatting and having a few people who can help me if not busy (which they are mostly, but who can blame em, with all those titles and such)
with heroes i can do more, not everything, but much more, and actually have a chance of completing more NM stuff, if they dont nerf too much skills

Why would you never think you'd say that? It's absolutely true and something to never allow.

I've thought of exclusive hero-only skills, or at least one unique skill per hero. For example, Gwen could have one of her skills from the BMP, only available to her, rewarded through a special quest she gives.

I don't understand this mentality of heroes being overpowered. Even if we can use 7 with PvE skills. Anything a hero can do, a player can do better. Much better. Heroes do NOT have any advantage over a real player whatsoever, besides maybe interrupting, and only interrupting. Humans are better at everything else, including minions. People just need to learn to play and manage their minions instead of crappy pugs running Flesh Golem + Mending.

I'm sorry, but the debate is actually incredibly stupid and most of the people butthurt about the fact don't even play Guild Wars anymore, bringing the whole situation and debate to an entirely whole new level of stupid.

i would love to have 7 heroes and i got an idea...i'll wrote a letter to santa claus cause i bet he can do it.
and dont u tell me theres no santa claus regina.

I'm starting to think that I should have renamed this thread "Discussion on 7 Heroes" or something.


Seriously, though, I'm excited about John's plans ideas. I hope we get to see some of them actually manifested in the game. GW is in desperate need of some life. I hope we get an update soon.

The return of the petition poll? I'll sign.

ah man seriously a new cons ? a new hat ? it will not bring the the joy of play gw back.wich ruins the game now its the dificult to make a party and find ppl to play with.many times u just dont have an hour to spend on a town typing lfg need healer ned this and that so yea i think what ppl are more interested is the heroes.

Kind of like how some of the shining blade allies in WiK got thier own specific skills? That would be fun. If done right I dont see how it could hurt, and would add some character to otherwise bland heros.

Besides 7 heros, I would be very interested in a better command system for heros. Something that could make the spread out on command, or make formations.

That would be awesome....