Hearts of the North - the next Guild Wars Beyond chapter

Kvinna

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Guru Heart of the North Interview



This represents a stage in moving the storyline from Guild Wars to Guild Wars 2, has the development/lore team put any kind of timelines together, and how many more events are we likely to see before Guild Wars 2?
We have internal timelines for the major events that happen between Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 that serve as a guideline for some of the topics that we’d like to hit upon. I’ll use Cantha: Winds of Change as an example of how this process works. I know that there are certain things that will have happened of importance for GW2 that I think would make for a compelling experience to players. I talk with our keepers of the lore, Jeff Grubb and Ree Soesbee, and pitch them what I’d like to do – this is sort of a sanity pass, with the hope being that if I propose something like “A History of Guild Wars: The Musical,” it will immediately and understandably be shot down.

Once I’ve got the green light, I go back and start filling out the story in greater detail – what is the overall plot arc, who are the important characters, and how is this all going to play out? When that’s done, we reconvene to talk it over again, to refine and finalize it. There can be a fair amount of back and forth, but it’s all part of the iterative design process that we follow here at ArenaNet, and I feel like we’ve come away with something really strong because of it.


As for how many of these major events will occur before Guild Wars 2 – there’s a lot of story that we can tell in the time that we have, even within the limitation of things that would reasonably happen within the player’s lifetime. That isn’t to say we aren’t also looking at ways to let players experience some things that happen beyond their time, as well.

What forces led you to bring back Thackeray and Gwen, obviously it's a rich world with many characters to choose from, why these two?
Keiran has been missing for quite some time (at least real world time) after the events of the War in Kryta. However, players who have been following Guild Wars 2 are probably already familiar with Logan Thackeray, one of our iconic characters, which presents something of a conundrum – how does he end up being if we never explain the rest of Keiran’s tale? This was a story that I didn’t want to leave hanging before we moved on to explore other parts of the world, and what has been happening within them. There’s a lot of story still to be told – not just for existing characters, but for a host of new faces as well.

Will there be any kind of commemorative token or title associated with participating in this quest line?
There will be a new Hero unlocked at the end of the content – when completing story arcs like this, I’d like to try and make sure we’re giving the players a tangible reward as opposed to something that is strictly cosmetic!

Can you talk more about the actual wedding? What will that be like from a player’s perspective, is this a one-time event, or is it something scripted into the storyline?
The wedding will be playing out as part of the story line – I didn’t want to make something like this as a one-time event, that would be unfair to players who come in later on. It’s a culmination to a pretty large storyline, so I wouldn’t want anyone to miss out. The wedding itself is going to be something of a breather after all of the action of the Keiran missions. It was something I really felt that the content needed – a chance for something to happen that was just simple and positive – no death, destruction, war, or strife. After coming off a major storyline of conflict, we needed a moment of peace. I feel like if we let ourselves get caught up in telling nothing but increasingly epic conflicts, the player can begin to lose sight of why they’re even fighting at all. It’s the simple moments that let you know that the world is something that’s still worth caring about.

Kvinna

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Love is in the air, folks! The next chapter of the Guild Wars Beyond campaign brings us Hearts of the North, a love-wrought event in which players help reunite the legendary heroes Gwen and Keiran Thackeray and allows you to play Keiran himself! Players will gain access to a series of missions, quests and in-game content such as preparing for the wedding, participating in the ceremony and even be able to dress in one of the five new wedding outfits.
As a special treat for Guild Wars fans, the Hearts of the North lore focuses on the union of Lt. Keiran Thackeray, a figure familiar to War in Kryta players, and Gwen, a beautiful but bitter woman that players first met at the very start of the original Guild Wars. Logan Thackeray, an iconic character in the upcoming release of Guild Wars 2 and the forthcoming Guild Wars novel Edge of Destiny, is the descendant of these two legendary heroes. As part of Hearts of the North, Guild Wars players will once again take part in history, as the wedding of Gwen and Keiran have important ramifications on the world of Guild Wars 2.

In Hearts of the North, players will experience Guild Wars history through exciting in-game quests, a website that enhances the storyline and have the opportunity to don elegant wedding costumes such as formal gowns and dapper tuxedos. But before the wedding can take place, players will search for clues to Keiran?s whereabouts for a heartsick Gwen, hunt down evil as Keiran Thackeray himself and help a norn wedding planner arrange the festivities.

Only those players who have finished Guild Wars: Eye of the North and the War in Kryta can access Hearts of the North. Once players have participated in Keiran?s safe return, they can attend the wedding and associated festivities.

In the months ahead, Guild Wars Beyond will continue to establish the foundation of Guild Wars 2 via the current Guild Wars live game. For more information on Guild Wars and the Hearts of the North, please visit www.guildwars.com.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

when Keiran Thackeray started to being a big guy?

No one ever would have bothered with him unless he started to give present like nick.

DigitalFear

DigitalFear

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

My mother's basement.

Me/

Sounds neat

My New Name

Krytan Explorer

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new content! gg anet!!!!

Gennadios

Gennadios

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when Keiran Thackeray started to being a big guy?

No one ever would have bothered with him unless he started to give present like nick.
QFT. Now, how do we start this thing? The link for more information just leads to the WiK page that hasn't been updated since July.

hitsuji182

hitsuji182

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Poland

The Autonomy [?????????]

Mo/A

Nooo, kicked from HoH...

So many files, which means new textures. We are going to see new costumes soon. Nothing very interesting for me, but at least PvE players should be happy.

Next step - PvP/HA love please.

Hyaon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

P/W

anet have truly outright flipped...........what the bloody hell is this game's direction heading for?

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

Not sure I like th idea of playing as Kieran. New content is good, but, this sounds really cheesy.

ChrisCo

ChrisCo

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Join Date: Feb 2006

[ToR]

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Hmmm can we start these quests, haven't found any yet.

Hyaon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

P/W

note, how easy it is to buy the mesmer armour...I mean 'wedding costumes' yet everything else looks like a 5 minute job!

Rebelor

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Join Date: Dec 2006

cant wait! gj anet

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

I've been a good little GW fan up until now but sorry guys no more DLC money unless it's something along the lines of a second BMP. Costumes were a nifty idea but if it's going to be an 'every time something canon related happens' type deal, no thanks.

drkn

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Wroc??aw, Poland

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Originally Posted by Hyaon View Post
anet have truly outright flipped...........what the bloody hell is this game's direction heading for?
Getting money from the game ANet designed without forcing players to buy stuff just in order to stay on par with the others + adding SOME new in-game stuff + creating a lore bridge between GW1 and GW2.
Nothing wrong with it, actually.

Lihinel

Lihinel

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Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

Aww common people, the content is and remains free, if you like the costumes, buy them, if not just enjoy the free content update.
Guess Ill pass on this round of costumes too, WiK & Halloween were more to my liking, but I am sure there are those who enjoy these costumes way more than those of the past. Especially the RP crowed.

Just Sai

Just Sai

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Join Date: Oct 2009

aotearoa

Mo/

yay gw
just in the nick of time, i was getting a lil bored.
gg

Warvic

Warvic

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Join Date: May 2009

The Netherlands

A/W

Kinda tried to find Thackery in kryta and ascalon settlement. No luck... Anyons knows/remembers where thackery was seen last?

Hyaon

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Join Date: May 2005

P/W

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Originally Posted by drkn View Post
Getting money from the game ANet designed without forcing players to buy stuff just in order to stay on par with the others + adding SOME new in-game stuff + creating a lore bridge between GW1 and GW2.
Nothing wrong with it, actually.
Im not arsed about the staying on par with others, just the actual quality of it all. It's a right shock going from addons such as factions, nightfall and ending up with this; selling a mesmer set for a third of the previous add on price. It just smacks of half arsedness. And yes I like saying arse a lot.

Lihinel

Lihinel

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E/

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Kinda tried to find Thackery in kryta and ascalon settlement. No luck... Anyons knows/remembers where thackery was seen last?
He just joined my party outside of Kryta.

Man, that was easy.

So much for QA.

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

OMG, this is so cool.

I missed the beginning of the War in Kryta event, so it was less fun playing catch up.

With this, I hope to be right on top of the events....


so, uh, where do I start?

Warvic

Warvic

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Join Date: May 2009

The Netherlands

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Originally Posted by Lihinel View Post
He just joined my party outside of Kryta.

Man, that was easy.

So much for QA.
huh really? From what outpost did u leave?

drkn

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Costumes are completely optional. It would be bad if we were limited to three armors per class, but there are enough good-looking clothes our toons can wear. Buying a costume gives you no advantage and doesn't really broaden your pool of looks that much. Don't like them, don't like the price - don't buy them.
I, for one, am not going to spend money on costumes, but as long as ANet doesn't add something game-breaking to their shop, i don't mind.

Lihinel

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huh really? From what outpost did u leave?
Lions Arch, used a character that already finished Battle for Lions Arch and watched the follow up Dialoge in the HoM, guess its just a bug that sliped through.

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Originally Posted by Reformed View Post
I've been a good little GW fan up until now but sorry guys no more DLC money unless it's something along the lines of a second BMP. Costumes were a nifty idea but if it's going to be an 'every time something canon related happens' type deal, no thanks.
Well, good news is you can enjoy the bonus content for FREE w/o spending any money!


Seriously, how can anyone complain about the costumes? If you don't want them, don't buy them, just enjoy the free gaming updates.


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Seriously? A wedding? Gay!

The hate is incredible... I just don't get it. We knew about the wedding and the costumes from Rubi's interview weeks ago!

Spookii

Spookii

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Southeast, USA

N/

3 costume sets?...

Sigh.

I really feel like I'm being siphoned for cash, now.

Warvic

Warvic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2009

The Netherlands

A/W

Yh i'm not getting the QQ-ing either. seems these kids are happier without any new content. The costumes are optional! is that so hard to understand?

DRGN

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In Memorium [iBot]

Mo/A

New update...10 bucks says they forgot to put the right stuff in. :P

Reformed

Reformed

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Originally Posted by Mordakai View Post
Well, good news is you can enjoy the bonus content for FREE w/o spending any money!


Seriously, how can anyone complain about the costumes? If you don't want them, don't buy them, just enjoy the free gaming updates.
I've bought them all and even bought the storage panes when they came out (all of them). I voiced why I will not be buying these...aren't opinions great?

Spookii

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Yh i'm not getting the QQ-ing either. seems these kids are happier without any new content. The costumes are optional! is that so hard to understand?
I'm QQing about it because it really feels sleezy and cheap at this magnitude. Releasing this many costumes this often makes it feel like I'm playing some B-level Korean MMO with a cash shop, not Guild Wars.

I'm guessing that the costume megapack for all 3 will be around $15-20 or so, no? I could get one month's worth of a game from an awesome company like Blizzard. If ANet keeps releasing these costumes like this, it's really going to make me think less of them.

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Again, no one is making you buy them!

It's pretty obvious from the article that Anet is going to be releasing a LOT more costumes:

Halloween
Wedding
Wintersday


You don't have to buy all of them, or even buy them right away.

In the meantime, you can enjoy free new content!


I mean, it really is the best of both worlds: Regular updates to a sub-free game, + new costumes for those who want them. Win-win.

http://www.massively.com/2010/11/11/...elys-intervie/


EDIT: and Blizzard is doing this AND charging you $15 bucks a month! Oh, how awesomely generous they are...

http://us.blizzard.com/store/browse.xml?f=c:5,c:33

That's 3 pets and a steed for only $55! Get yours today, because you still need to save money to buy Cataclysm!

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

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Yeah, top hats for all.

Hyaon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

P/W

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Originally Posted by Spookii View Post
it really feels sleezy and cheap at this magnitude. Releasing this many costumes this often makes it feel like I'm playing some B-level Korean MMO with a cash shop, not Guild Wars.
That's pretty much how I feel... the difference with a proper addon is I get to choose what I like or don't like..eg: I like the norn ranger armour so I got it, but those dragon gloves are ugly as hell! so I didnt get them...with this, its just one overcharged item, take it or leave it. it doesnt feel right!

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

I have completed WiK with 8 of 10 chars.

But I know many who have not even started.
I wonder if they will miss all HOTN content or if they are at least allowed to attend the wedding ceremony.

I am pretty sure they are eligible to buy wedding dresses, after all. SCNR.

Spookii

Spookii

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Join Date: Jan 2008

Southeast, USA

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Originally Posted by Mordakai View Post
Again, no one is making you buy them!


EDIT: and Blizzard is doing to AND charging you $15 bucks a month! Oh, how awesomely generous they are...

http://us.blizzard.com/store/browse.xml?f=c:5,c:33
My point being that Blizzard is top notch in everything they do. I've not once had a bad customer experience with those people and they release new content on a reasonable time scale.

I've had bad experiences with ANet, my only good point towards them is that they made GuildWars. Can't say much more than that.

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Originally Posted by Hyaon View Post
That's pretty much how I feel... the difference with a proper addon is I get to choose what I like or don't like..eg: I like the norn ranger armour so I got it, but those dragon gloves are ugly as hell! so I didnt get them...with this, its just one overcharged item, take it or leave it. it doesnt feel right!
Gah, you get FREE content!

Who cares about the Tux?!?


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Originally Posted by Spookii View Post
My point being that Blizzard is top notch in everything they do. I've not once had a bad customer experience with those people and they release new content on a reasonable time scale.

I've had bad experiences with ANet, my only good point towards them is that they made GuildWars. Can't say much more than that.

Well you SHOULD get top notch customer relations from Blizzard... you're spending hundreds of dollars a year with all the expansions, monthly sub, and store.

Guess how much I spent on GW last year? $20. And it was all optional. Best bang for your buck, no question.

Spookii

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Gah, you get FREE content!

Who cares about the Tux?!?





Well you SHOULD get top notch customer relations from Blizzard... you're spending hundreds of dollars a year with all the expansions, monthly sub, and store.

Guess how much I spent on GW last year? $20. And it was all optional. Best bang for your buck, no question.
My point exactly. I'm putting money into GuildWars by buying their content and you'd think that I'd get something in return, since all they're giving me is copied pixels. Even before GuildWars was scratching for money, years ago, they failed at customer service.

I still don't think you get what I'm saying when I say that by them just having one huge optional cash shop, it makes the game feel incredibly cheap.

DRGN

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In Memorium [iBot]

Mo/A



For confirmation of where the Arrowhead and to show it's not a rumor.

EDIT: It's south of the beach in Divinity Coast.

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Originally Posted by Spookii View Post
My point exactly. I'm putting money into GuildWars by buying their content and you'd think that I'd get something in return, since all they're giving me is copied pixels. Even before GuildWars was scratching for money, years ago, they failed at customer service.

I still don't think you get what I'm saying when I say that by them just having one huge optional cash shop, it makes the game feel incredibly cheap.
So, you want an non-optional cash shop?

Look, they need to make money. Period. Better this way then have to BUY bonus quests...

NerfHerder

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Where is that Arrow Head?

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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For confirmation of where the Arrowhead and to show it's not a rumor.
oooh, thanks!

Divinity's Coast, eh? Can you add the map with path?