Hearts of the North - the next Guild Wars Beyond chapter

Vulturion

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2009

Awesome, and unexpected, update - thanks, Anet.
My necromancer loves his new crimosn ruffled Dracula tux!

Valan Luca

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

It looks like something didn't make it all the way to Live properly, so the third quest isn't available right now. We're going to look into getting this fixed tomorrow, Joe has gone home to get some well-deserved rest. For those of you that post on the forums, could you please let people know not to kill themselves trying to find it right now? Apologies, but I hope people have been enjoying the new stuff so far, at least. ><; John Stumme 01:33, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Source: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedb..._third_item.3F

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
Susan Jessup designed and implemented the female tuxedo and the formal dress.

Kristen Perry designed and implemented the groom, groomsmen, and bride outfits.
And did their usual fantastic job. The frosting on the cake (which is the content) is usually the best part.

Lasai

Lasai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2009

R/

Well, for me this is done already. I didn't create a char, spend time on skills, weapons.. learning to play it.. just to have another craptastic chance to NOT play that char.

I don't want to be Thackaray. No more than I wanted to be a Pac Man wannabe worm or the Asuran version of Pokemon.

Im pretty disgusted right now. I had been looking forward to this.

I'm fine with the purchasable costumes..at least it is attainable and doesn't involve trading umpteen royal gifts in for garbage noob exp scrolls and common consumables worse than Nick gives out every day in Pre for far less effort.

Quite honestly.. Implementation of the WIK and now this gives me pause about GW2 in general.

caballo_oscuro

caballo_oscuro

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Aura

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryssul Sylverhart View Post
Though I am always happy for more free content, which is something we've all been wishing for for years, a wedding quest?? Really? We couldn't have something cool like a plot about the Charr or something? And I really don't understand people's/ANet's obsession with Gwen. I really couldn't care less about her and I certainly don't care that she's getting married to some Joe Schmoe uninvolved NPC. This is going to be one sequence that I'm definitely going to skip, though I will be curious to see how this particular event is important enough to GW2 history to be worth making a questline about it (when compared to everything else in history you could've made a questline about).

Oh God, I agree with this so much. It seems almost like an excuse to make and pimp more pretty costumes.
Yep, I know the costume thing is getting a bit much for alot of people, it can be a drain on your prescious monies and some feel Anet is just leaching money for very little. As for the free content, this is just a small chapter continuing on from WiK but lore-wise is part of the big picture.

Gwen is highly significant to the story of guildwars, as a little girl who followed you around in pre-searing and everyone wondered what had happened to her since. Well Anet decided that since so many people were wondering, she'd become a major force in the story when they decided that campaign 4 wouldn't meet their needs for the game they wanted.

So Gwen became a central character in the lore, escaping from the Charr and being rescued by the Ebon Vanguard, subsequently being in charge while Langmar was away.

This segues into GW2 as the character Logan Thackeray is a central character in the human side of the story and descends from Gwen and Kieran after they help establish Ebonhawke, much liek your gw2 characters descend from your GW1 characters, which is what all this GW Beyond stuff including the WiK and the wedding and the coming episode in Cantha are all leaning towards.

And looking at the rewards for the new content, it looks like they want to help you get more oppressor weapons for playing along and get points for your HoM, so as lame as a wedding might seem to you, there's a benefit in it for everyone who plays.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Did you really need to regurgitate Gwen's history? Why not talk about her escape from the charr in the BMP?

Here's what's necessary: Gwen's important. She marries Keiran and their descendant Logan is important in GW2. The end.

eeks

eeks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, Australia

Lubricated Volcano Love [Club]

Rt/Mo

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Originally Posted by Spookii View Post
I guess my beef is that they're hiding behind the "Hey, you're paying for costumes so we don't really have to give you anything other than that."
By the way, there's a new questline.

I personally don't see a problem with the costume prices. Then again, that may be due to myself living in Australia, and whilst our dollar matches the USD, we still have to fork out a hundred bucks (or more) for newly released games, and WoW subscriptions cost around $35.

Case in point.
Gamestop pricing.

Count your blessings. >_>

Oh yeah, plus the GW store still forces us to pay in pounds.

caballo_oscuro

caballo_oscuro

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Aura

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasai View Post
Well, for me this is done already. I didn't create a char, spend time on skills, weapons.. learning to play it.. just to have another craptastic chance to NOT play that char.

I don't want to be Thackaray. No more than I wanted to be a Pac Man wannabe worm or the Asuran version of Pokemon.

Im pretty disgusted right now. I had been looking forward to this.

I'm fine with the purchasable costumes..at least it is attainable and doesn't involve trading umpteen royal gifts in for garbage noob exp scrolls and common consumables worse than Nick gives out every day in Pre for far less effort.
Really? You don't like the idea of variety in a game? The little examples you give are only temporary little intermissions in your normal gameplay. You can still go vanquishing the rest of the world with your favourite builds for the rest of your gameplay.

As for Polymock, it's just a side-game, bears no relevance to the rest of the story. Just something to do on the sideline when you want a break from all the other content in the game, ya know, those 3 campaigns, Hard Mode, titles, dungeons, challenge missions, pvp, festivals, the bonus mission pack... If Polymock is all you have to complain about you must have done everything else to death... which means you've had hundreds and hundreds of hours of content on the character just to have another craptastic chance to NOT play that char.

Playing Thackaray isn't the end-game, isn't the overall goal of all those years of development and content creation and all your input. Just a little side-game to take you out of your element. Relax and enjoy it.

caballo_oscuro

caballo_oscuro

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Aura

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0 View Post
Did you really need to regurgitate Gwen's history? Why not talk about her escape from the charr in the BMP?

Here's what's necessary: Gwen's important. She marries Keiran and their descendant Logan is important in GW2. The end.
I mentioned her escape from the Charr, so obviously what i do regurgitate, you don't read. And yeah, the reason I regurgitated Gwen's history is to spell out her significance to the lore. The person I was responding to didn't know or else didn't care why Gwen's important.

It's like saying the sky is blue. You can take it for granted, you can dispute it, you can ask why? There's alot of ways to answer a question or to provide enlightenment. Sometimes you need a hammer to get your point across.

RIGHTKaane

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

| Righteous Indignation |

W/A

I think I just found another quest chain.

I am playing on a character that hasn't even touched WiK yet, working her through EotN. I just went outside of The Eye of the North and Thackeray was standing outside, and gave me a quest called "A Good Deed." (including the period at the end). It seems to be a quest chain to make a gift for Gwen, and it's listed under "Festival Event Quests"

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Quote:
After being away from the Eye of the North for so long, it feels good to be home. Things are, for the most part, as we left them. One thing troubles me though...

Gwen secludes herself inside the Hall of Monuments, continually staring into the scrying pool as if waiting for some response from beyond. It would mean a lot to me if you could spare a moment to check on her and make sure she's doing alright. All that time spent alone isn't healthy.

Reward:
5,000 Experience
500 Gold
500 Vanguard reputation points
I've gone and talked to Gwen, then back to Thackeray, now to a dude in Olafstead, and he's sending me to a craftsman in Varajar Fells.

Ok, I've just finished the quest... it's some backstory about Gwen and her mother after a bit of a (fairly easy) fight against creatures from UW. (most of them aren't very high level)

Lasai

Lasai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2009

R/

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Originally Posted by caballo_oscuro View Post
Really? You don't like the idea of variety in a game? The little examples you give are only temporary little intermissions in your normal gameplay. You can still go vanquishing the rest of the world with your favourite builds for the rest of your gameplay.

As for Polymock, it's just a side-game, bears no relevance to the rest of the story. Just something to do on the sideline when you want a break from all the other content in the game, ya know, those 3 campaigns, Hard Mode, titles, dungeons, challenge missions, pvp, festivals, the bonus mission pack... If Polymock is all you have to complain about you must have done everything else to death... which means you've had hundreds and hundreds of hours of content on the character just to have another craptastic chance to NOT play that char.

Playing Thackaray isn't the end-game, isn't the overall goal of all those years of development and content creation and all your input. Just a little side-game to take you out of your element. Relax and enjoy it.
The sole reason I play this.. after 5 years of EQ2.. is skillsets. The ability to custom tailor my skills to my play. It is, to me, the singular thing that sets this game apart and makes it enjoyable. I do not like content here that forces the use of a canned skillset on an unfamiliar character... anywhere that they implement it. I mistakenly bought the bonus pack.. tossed the books and never bothered with it. My main is Teofa.. a Ranger.. and that is who I would prefer to play the game as, not some joke of an NPC whining after Gwen.

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

W/

Bah, I just finished the first quest which was fun. Though...



Looking forward to the rest of the quest line being released tomorrow. Thanks for the free stuff, Anet.

TakagiNaoSama

TakagiNaoSama

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

Ohio

Moonlight Shadowz

Mo/

I had a huge fan-gasm upon seeing this announcement!! I literally cried. Yes, literally. I'm definitely one of the biggest Gwen fans there is I can't wait to see the wedding!!! Thank you ArenaNet!!!!!!! <3

caballo_oscuro

caballo_oscuro

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Aura

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasai View Post
The sole reason I play this.. after 5 years of EQ2.. is skillsets. The ability to custom tailor my skills to my play. It is, to me, the singular thing that sets this game apart and makes it enjoyable. I do not like content here that forces the use of a canned skillset on an unfamiliar character... anywhere that they implement it. I mistakenly bought the bonus pack.. tossed the books and never bothered with it. My main is Teofa.. a Ranger.. and that is who I would prefer to play the game as, not some joke of an NPC whining after Gwen.
Ok, that's cool. I can appreciate that, to each their own. You worked hard to get your variety of skills, to accomplish what you have in-game. I think it's alright. I bought the BMP too, and enjoyed it for a little while, I'm not stuck with it though, there's loads more to play. All just little bits of a huge game.

This is just more variety, a different piece of content. Nobody is expecting that everybody will enjoy every aspect of the game, it's not built that way.

But with a game this big, the rules change in different places, it doesn't stay the same. You can learn how to play this build, push through the content, get your free stuff and then move on to the next thing on the list. There's far worse things that can happen to you than having to play another character through a little section of the game.

caballo_oscuro

caballo_oscuro

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Aura

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman View Post
Bah, I just finished the first quest which was fun. Though...



Looking forward to the rest of the quest line being released tomorrow. Thanks for the free stuff, Anet.

HAHA agree with spoiler :P

Aleta

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

TTP

R/E

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Originally Posted by Spookii View Post
3 costume sets?...

Sigh.

I really feel like I'm being siphoned for cash, now.
How? You don't have to buy them. I like them I bought them. It's an option not a must.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RIGHTKaane View Post
I think I just found another quest chain.

I am playing on a character that hasn't even touched WiK yet, working her through EotN. I just went outside of The Eye of the North and Thackeray was standing outside, and gave me a quest called "A Good Deed." (including the period at the end). It seems to be a quest chain to make a gift for Gwen, and it's listed under "Festival Event Quests"

text:



I've gone and talked to Gwen, then back to Thackeray, now to a dude in Olafstead, and he's sending me to a craftsman in Varajar Fells.

Ok, I've just finished the quest... it's some backstory about Gwen and her mother after a bit of a (fairly easy) fight against creatures from UW. (most of them aren't very high level)
It's on old quest from 2008 Wintersday.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Wintersday_Cheer

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

W/

Anyone have any good screenshots of the new costumes? Curious to see what they look like.

caballo_oscuro

caballo_oscuro

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Aura

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman View Post
Anyone have any good screenshots of the new costumes? Curious to see what they look like.

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

W/

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Originally Posted by caballo_oscuro View Post
Hot diggity dog, those are fancy. I just might have to buy those later for my Ele. I've always wanted that sort of royal look to him, but none of the male armors really seem to do it for me. Awesome work, Susan and Kristen.

I wish I had waited on spending all that gold on buying new gear to match the Halloween goggles.

Thanks for the pictures

dawnmist

dawnmist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Melbourne, Australia

Serpents Maw Esoteric Echelon

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Pics are awesome. <3 what I can see...

Any chance to get shots of the backs of the costumes as well...since they're what we generally get to look at when we're playing characters that are wearing them?

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

Do I need to do the side story in the HoM that came out with the WiK stuff?

Laraja

Laraja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Somewhere over the rainbow

Descendents of Honor

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Woo -hoo! Go go Anet. I've been waiting and waiting... and waiting....... and waiting for the conclusion to WiK and the quests to find Kieran Thackaray.

Thank you thank you.

My only issue? I really wish we had a 'costumer' NPC like the festival hat NPC so we have a place to store our costumes. I want the new ones but srsly, I am SO out of storage space after halloween. I didn't even bother to buy the Shining Blade/White Mantle costumes. I have to be a little picky about what I buy and how many of my toons get the costume because of space.

c1team

c1team

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Homelands

Guess I have to finish WiK now? lol

Mireles

Mireles

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2009

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by caballo_oscuro View Post
Dresses look great.... tuxes however just looks like mez armor with top hats.

dawnmist

dawnmist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Melbourne, Australia

Serpents Maw Esoteric Echelon

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laraja View Post
My only issue? I really wish we had a 'costumer' NPC like the festival hat NPC so we have a place to store our costumes. I want the new ones but srsly, I am SO out of storage space after halloween. I didn't even bother to buy the Shining Blade/White Mantle costumes. I have to be a little picky about what I buy and how many of my toons get the costume because of space.
Um...you can go and regenerate the costumes at any time for any toon from the same costume NPC that you grabbed them from the first time.

The NPC doesn't even charge you the 10g that the Festival Hat NPC does.

It's only if you've dyed them and don't want to have to dye them again that you'd need to store them...which is the same as for festival hats.

It would be nice to be able to add them to the Guild Hall though.

Hyperventilate

Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

Has anyone else had their Miku go absolutely insane?

Mine stopped what she was doing, turned around and fled all the way back to the beginning of the map. She had to run at least half of the map...



There is no way it was lag, since we had been actively killing before and I was taking damage chasing her ass back.


Stupid assassins.

Kvinna

Kvinna

Administrator

Join Date: Aug 2009

Guys, this thread is to discuss Heart of the North, not to bicker about the lack of dervish updates or a place to whine about PvP balance. There are other threads for that. This isn't it.

Thanks.

Sjeng

Sjeng

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

in my GH

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

W/

normally, 4 costumes cost 8,99. They throw in ONE extra costume, that is almost the same as existing mesmer armor, and they charge us €12,99???
Anet is insane. rediculous prizes!!!

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman View Post
Hot diggity dog, those are fancy. I just might have to buy those later for my Ele. I've always wanted that sort of royal look to him, but none of the male armors really seem to do it for me. Awesome work, Susan and Kristen.

I wish I had waited on spending all that gold on buying new gear to match the Halloween goggles.

Thanks for the pictures
They are amazing. I saw them and immediately went "...must have." The female tuxedo looks awesome on my Mesmer, and apparently bright red hair suits my Dervish (though I can't seem to dye it light enough to match her regular hair color. Oh well). They are gorgeous, and obviously a lot of time went into the detailing on them.

And as ever, there's people whining about costumes. If you don't like them, don't buy them. They aren't required. Personally, I'd rather spend $10-15 on a costume set every couple of months if they appeal to me than be forced to pay $15 a month just to play the game.

Also, I would argue that the GW store really isn't a cash shop, since cash shops in MMOs tend to be where they sell things that directly effect gameplay and you more or less have to buy them else you will be at a drastic disadvantage - weapons, armor, in-game money, etc. The GW store does not offer anything of that sort.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasai View Post
Well, for me this is done already. I didn't create a char, spend time on skills, weapons.. learning to play it.. just to have another craptastic chance to NOT play that char.

I don't want to be Thackaray. No more than I wanted to be a Pac Man wannabe worm or the Asuran version of Pokemon.

Im pretty disgusted right now. I had been looking forward to this.

I'm fine with the purchasable costumes..at least it is attainable and doesn't involve trading umpteen royal gifts in for garbage noob exp scrolls and common consumables worse than Nick gives out every day in Pre for far less effort.

Quite honestly.. Implementation of the WIK and now this gives me pause about GW2 in general.

First off, I wouldn't take anything in GW1 a sign of GW2... they are two different games.


Second, I couldn't disagree with you more. I've player over 1500 hours with my main... I think I know how to play her.

But throw me on a Ranger with a short range bow... woah. Took me awhile to get it, but I love Keiran: "Snap, Headshot!"

Anyway, you're missing out: 5 war supplies, 1k gold, and 1250 Vanguard rep pts in 8-10 minutes.

Yeah, that's gonna get nerfed, so enjoy it while you can...


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Originally Posted by Ka Tet View Post
When did this become a shill site?
Commentary about the places they diverted resources from seems very relevant to the discussion.
Pointing out that GW is buy-to-play not free-to-play also seems pretty relevant.

Then make a new thread to bitch about those things, no one is stopping you.

But lets keep this thread about Hearts of the North.

Sharkinu

Sharkinu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Romania

Smells Like Bear Spirit [Norn]

R/

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Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman View Post
Don't worry. It's not.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharkinu View Post
Don't worry. It's not.
Source? Or just guessing?

Sharkinu

Sharkinu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Romania

Smells Like Bear Spirit [Norn]

R/

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Originally Posted by Mordakai View Post
Source? Or just guessing?
Source

http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?... ldid=2172027

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharkinu View Post
Not an assassin or ranger... awesome.

Rules out Miku and Keiran at least...

Mad King Hero... LOL

tiny_the_tokin_bear

tiny_the_tokin_bear

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Toronto

Destructa Fuqus

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai View Post
Not an assassin or ranger... awesome.

Rules out Miku and Keiran at least...

Mad King Hero... LOL
I'd bet it's a hero that you can change the primary profession of. What else could be "totally different"? Oh aside from maybe a Sylvari....or maybe they're going ahead with the chronomancer and summoner....although I doubt it...

drkn

drkn

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2009

Wroc??aw, Poland

Midnight Mayhem

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Quote:
Oh aside from maybe a Sylvari....or maybe they're going ahead with the chronomancer and summoner....although I doubt it...
I usually appreciate people with vast imagination and wishful thinking. But not those that contradict the lore.

tiny_the_tokin_bear

tiny_the_tokin_bear

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Toronto

Destructa Fuqus

E/

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Originally Posted by drkn View Post
I usually appreciate people with vast imagination and wishful thinking. But not those that contradict the lore.
Yes, I suppose I wasn't really thinking when I mentioned the sylvari....seeing as they don't emerge for a few hundred years....I've been re-reading ghosts of Ascalon, it's not my fault!

Anyway, I'd think a hero with changeable primary profession is probably the new hero...

asb

asb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Europe

Me/

Never really related to Keiran, he's always seemed like he just appeared out of nowhere, suddenly becoming lore-wise corner stone for gw2. If I had gotten him to know better through quests/mission first, I could have taken an interest in his life, his character, problems, motivations. The walls of text in the hom and the picnic preparation wasn't really enough, and "battling" alongside him in the WiK didn't convince me to give him my blessings either. He didn't ask us to come with him and solve his own problems.
I hope Gwen catches him fooling around with a female Charr and orders us, heartbroken and filled with wrath, to take him out. Hah!

Nonetheless, I love the free content ANet is giving us. I'd rather have skill updates, but I guess they can't package those as well with their money makers.

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Originally Posted by tiny_the_tokin_bear View Post
Yes, I suppose I wasn't really thinking when I mentioned the sylvari....seeing as they don't emerge for a few hundred years....I've been re-reading ghosts of Ascalon, it's not my fault!
Time-traveling chronomancer sylvari. :P

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

love the new costumes, thumbs up on the new quests (though only one of my characters ever finished bla--had no reason to get more than one thru)....

but I guess I am going to kill rotscale a bunch more times so he might actually drop something for me! (one of the others dropped black dye)....dumb bow-----