Hearts of the North - the next Guild Wars Beyond chapter

MagnumShadow

MagnumShadow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

Far Shiverpeaks

Wait do i have to complete Hearts of the North in order to play Winds of change when it comes out ?

Nekodesu

Nekodesu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2009

This is great! I like the new costumes aswell. The hat is awesome on mesmers :P

bsoltan

bsoltan

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2005

UK

[SoF]

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Originally Posted by MagnumShadow View Post
Wait do i have to complete Hearts of the North in order to play Winds of change when it comes out ?
I don't think anyone will know that yet!

It would be nice if Winds of Change was completely separate though. Playable by someone that doesn't even have Prophecies.

NerfHerder

NerfHerder

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2010

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Originally Posted by MagnumShadow View Post
Wait do i have to complete Hearts of the North in order to play Winds of change when it comes out ?
My guess is yes. Since Assassins can only come from Cantha, and Miku is an Assassin. This whole story line is probably intertwined. I'm guessing you cant skip it like I did the jungle and the desert in prophecies on all my toons. Oh wait, did they say the white mantle fled deeper into the Maguuma Jungle?

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

"Only those players who have finished Guild Wars: Eye of the North and the War in Kryta can access Hearts of the North."

Ran several characters through this last night finally getting to one who just finished BLA a week ago. EotN is complete but she can't access these new quests (no Ebon Vanguard unit outside of EotN). Can it be assumed this is a bug or do you also need to beat Prophecies in addition to EotN/WiK?

Arctica

Arctica

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

Hungary

Ministry of Fate [MoF]

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Originally Posted by Reformed View Post
"Only those players who have finished Guild Wars: Eye of the North and the War in Kryta can access Hearts of the North."

Ran several characters through this last night finally getting to one who just finished BLA a week ago. EotN is complete but she can't access these new quests (no Ebon Vanguard unit outside of EotN). Can it be assumed this is a bug or do you also need to beat Prophecies in addition to EotN/WiK?
"...and have subsequently reported the disappearance of Lt. Thackeray to Gwen in the Hall of Monuments."

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hearts_of_the_north

So it seems your char should also visit Gwen in your HoM to be able to get the new quest chain started.

Stapler Pirate

Stapler Pirate

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2010

Australia

Shore Headcrab Society [SHS]

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I love the fact you can get a bazillion bows off Gwen.

RedDog91

RedDog91

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Farming for Nick gifts

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BTW, Keiran is a beast when you want to kill Rotscale

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Now everyone has a build to solo with. You get to keep all the drops in the mini mission.

Also to the people that say "only 128 runs to Vanguard"... this is why Guild Wars has downplayed its "skill over time played" motto ever since Nightfall.

P.S. Keiran is pro but his bow has no inscription slot or mods .

SebaZ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ancient Phoenix

Mo/

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Originally Posted by caballo_oscuro View Post
Yep, I know the costume thing is getting a bit much for alot of people, it can be a drain on your prescious monies and some feel Anet is just leaching money for very little.
A lot of people are saying stuff like that, and I really don't get them. You are not forced to buy every single costume, and buying a costume doesn't give you any advantage over other people. Do you guys have some kind of addiction that is forcing you to buy every costume? In that case you should go see a doctor, not blame a.net.

Whirl E Vic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2009

D/

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Originally Posted by RedDog91 View Post
BTW, Keiran is a beast when you want to kill Rotscale

Did this too. Got Rotscales bow on the first go and then used it for the rest of the mini-mission, even though the mods don't do anything.

Although for a second I got a little agitated after:
'I'm using promise of death on Rotscale"
--> Sniper
WTF why wont he die?!?

...Then I noticed the 900's and remembered how much health that stupid dragon has

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Wedding Couple Attire. YES!
Formal Attire... NO!
Dapper Tuxedo... NO, NO, and thrice NO!

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Originally Posted by SebaZ View Post
A lot of people are saying stuff like that, and I really don't get them. You are not forced to buy every single costume, and buying a costume doesn't give you any advantage over other people. Do you guys have some kind of addiction that is forcing you to buy every costume? In that case you should go see a doctor, not blame a.net.
QFT

electra

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

There is no extra reward if done in HM. too bad

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

I'd probably buy 'em for completion if they weren't a $15 set. I understand it, but ehhhhh, it's a bit much right now.

And that's why I'll hold off. No biggie.

I got the stupid babbling-Gwen bug so I haven't done the second quest yet (much to my annoyance and dismay), but I can't wait to try solo'ing Rotscale.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

Such strange forms of logic here. If i walk trough the mall i will never complain about the stores trying to sell me shoes or perfume. A strange world that would be: You go shopping and all you ever see on a shelf is the one thing you want.

You got your moneys worth out of this game three years ago, kids. You paid for what was on the disks. You never had to pay for any later content that matters, gameplay wise: The Zquests,heavy equipment packs, Nicolas and the war in Kryta content. And there was that one free storage panel too. Some of you even complained about THAT. So show some gratitude or Santa will notice and he might stop giving you candy.

` Marshmallow

` Marshmallow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2009

Canadaa!

Last Friday Night [TGIF]

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Originally Posted by King Size View Post
anyone else got this 'issue' ?http://yfrog.com/msgw032nj

Yes :C And the people I went with had no problem getting the quest, too xD So they left and I rezoned and the thingy wasnt even there anymore. |:

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

$15 horse armor imo... yeah they are getting a bit ridiculous.

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

R/

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
I spoke to Kristen to get more details about the costumes.

The Groom costume is a full three-piece tuxedo with: long tails, gold belt, tartan cape with gold clasps. The tall top had has cross-buttoned ribbons that dangle in the back. There are two version of this: a black version, and a dyeable version.

The Groomsman costume is a more suit-like (with shorter tails) outfit that can double as formal wear outside of a wedding. It has no belt, no cape, and a shorter top hat with a button and no ornate ribbon dangling.

The female tuxedo is custom-made. It was tailored specifically for female characters. It has mesh and ribbon detailing that matches the groom and bride. The female tuxedo comes with another version of the top hat to match the outfit, complete with decorative ribbon dangles.

The Bride has a long layered satin dress with layers of ruffle mesh trimmed with satin ribbon and coordinating mesh sleeve. Dress is trimmed with gold flowers and leaves, including an arm band to attach the sleeve. Her formal up-do hairstyle has double flowing satin and ribboned veils with gold flowers and tiny white flower details. Hair decoration comes complete with gold flower and white flower bell earrings. She does have a garter as well as satin ribbon shoes. Bride dress comes in white as well as another dyeable version (so that when it dyes, the details still show because the dye system can be finicky… and the dress absolutely needed to look good in white).

Bridesmaid/formal dress: Because bridesmaid dresses are traditionally less ornate than the bride and Gwen’s was already streamlined for style and her personality, we felt dressing the members of the wedding party in formal attire would be more appropriate. Formal dress has matching shoes, necklace, bracelet and shoulder sash. In the back is a cascade of ribbons and large petals to match the flowing decorations of the front skirt. Her formal hair has columns of curls and matching mesh decoration.

And lastly:

Susan Jessup designed and implemented the female tuxedo and the formal dress.

Kristen Perry designed and implemented the groom, groomsmen, and bride outfits.
The female tux is awesome - but why dont male chars get the option to dress as the bride?

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Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman View Post
Bah, I just finished the first quest which was fun. Though...


yeah me too

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

You do know the new hero isn't going to be a ranger or assasin...right?

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

I would think the new hero would be a profession that we currently only have access to two of (rits, mesmer, paragon, etc...).

But it would be nice if it was something totally unique.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

Anyone noticed you cannot abandon the quest "The War in Kryta"

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quick Question:

If you do this in HM can you Vanquish?

Udin

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2008

Poland

Immortal Fire

E/

No it's a Mini-Mission

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

eeew

N/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by EPO Bot View Post
Such strange forms of logic here. If i walk trough the mall i will never complain about the stores trying to sell me shoes or perfume. A strange world that would be: You go shopping and all you ever see on a shelf is the one thing you want.

You got your moneys worth out of this game three years ago, kids. You paid for what was on the disks. You never had to pay for any later content that matters, gameplay wise: The Zquests,heavy equipment packs, Nicolas and the war in Kryta content. And there was that one free storage panel too. Some of you even complained about THAT. So show some gratitude or Santa will notice and he might stop giving you candy.
Well said. I have never ever got so much from a game before GW.

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctica View Post
"...and have subsequently reported the disappearance of Lt. Thackeray to Gwen in the Hall of Monuments."

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hearts_of_the_north

So it seems your char should also visit Gwen in your HoM to be able to get the new quest chain started.
Checked this last night several times, there is no dialogue trigger...any other ideas out there?

Edit: Took a couple zones but they finally showed up.

drunknzelda

drunknzelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Time For Plan B [RUN]

E/Me

I hope the new hero will have a unique skillset too.

skullmount4

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2010

D/

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Originally Posted by drunknzelda View Post
I hope the new hero will have a unique skillset too.
Like Miku's mark skill? That would be cool to give the heroes access to one PvE skill (letting them take more might make it OP).

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

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Originally Posted by Mordakai View Post
Quick Question:

If you do this in HM can you Vanquish?
No. If you have to enter these zones in HM, then then the vanquish symbol will be colored yellow (aka already vanquished!). So, you cannot use this as an excuse to vanquish.

Another possible question I except to see (or may have been asked already):

Is the reward in HM better than in NM?

No. The rewards are the same (including 1,250 vanguard points each time), although you do not receive medal of honor the second time onwards. The only reason you might want to do HM is for the challenge and it's still doable. For the first quest, it took be 9 min in NM, and 12 min in HM, simply because enemies were more aggressive, causing me to regen myself and Miku quite a bit between fights. You and Miku needs to work better especially in HM. Always use skill 1 when she calls her mark skill.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

Is there a location for the third item yet? wracking my brains trying to find it.

legioncg

legioncg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

423

D/W

Not sure if they've fixed it yet but I just had a build update message so maybe it's in now. Also on a side note you can use the flaming pumpkin head on Thackeray =p.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

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Originally Posted by mage767 View Post
No. The rewards are the same (including 1,250 vanguard points each time), although you do not receive medal of honor the second time onwards. The only reason you might want to do HM is for the challenge and it's still doable.

Thanks for the info.

Just for clarification, if you've already done the quest in normal mode, do you get 2 medals the first time in Hard Mode?

Or is it still 5 War Supplies, just like a second time in normal mode.

ChrisCo

ChrisCo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

[ToR]

W/

Broken Sword is at the E in Ettins back

Being

Being

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Society Of Souls [Argh]

R/



3rd item Broken Sword

tiny_the_tokin_bear

tiny_the_tokin_bear

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Toronto

Destructa Fuqus

E/

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Originally Posted by ChrisCo View Post
Broken Sword is at the E in Ettins back
confirmed........

go cubs

go cubs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

Chicago

[SIR]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by tiny_the_tokin_bear View Post
confirmed........
Double confirmed...

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai View Post
Thanks for the info.

Just for clarification, if you've already done the quest in normal mode, do you get 2 medals the first time in Hard Mode?

Or is it still 5 War Supplies, just like a second time in normal mode.
You get 5 war supplies if you do go do the same quest again, regardless of difficulty (so NM first time = 2 medals of honor, and HM second time = 5 war supplies)

instanceskiller

instanceskiller

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Myst

A/

Hi there can anyone tell me why I can't get the "A good deed" quest from Keiran outside eotn? Wiki says all I need to do is go talk to him but he just tells me to be on my way . I have just completed the Asuran allies bit and am now on the start of the ebon allies.

Thank you

WarcryOfTruth

WarcryOfTruth

Site Contributor

Join Date: Nov 2009

Atlanta

[LIFE]

P/

Whereabouts of 4th item? I've looked all over Kryta nearly... nothing. Is there not one yet?

Angelic Girl

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Lore School[GWen]

N/Mo

Finished broken sword mission:

Spoilers at following link
http://yfrog.com/mrgw211vj

go cubs

go cubs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

Chicago

[SIR]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by WarcryOfTruth View Post
Whereabouts of 4th item? I've looked all over Kryta nearly... nothing. Is there not one yet?
Yeah i cant find anything either for the 4th