So which of those 7 hero builds are working?

spray04

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2010

So we've all made tons of 7-hero builds in expectation of the update. Now that the update is finally here, I thought there should be a new thread on the actual outcomes of all those builds you came up with What's worked, and what was disappointing?

Perfected Shadow

Perfected Shadow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Zul'Aman

Umes Uranger U[bot]

...Just bring 2x Fallback/Incoming/Charge
You don't even need to keyboard faceroll pve anymore. Just hold W.

Rites

Rites

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2010

Deep in the belly of Texas

R/

lol

2 barrage rangers, 3 volley paragons, 1 weapons rit, 1 MM with SoS

i'm sleeping here, things are dying so fast i dont need a healer

turbo234

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

WI

Mo/

7 discord heroes, 1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3 while watching tv.

headgear56

headgear56

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2009

A treehouse in Echovald Forest

Legit Guild [LGiT]

N/Me

Using spiritway with a panic mesmer, two melees and a protect monk. Epic pawnage in Ferndale.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Theres too many builds that work. 3 discords, Panic, Ineptitude, SoS + Soul Twisting is ridiculously easy.

However, I'm going to have a bit of fun now with trying to play the game, and trying to get survivor through vanquishes (since it resets if you fail) using nothing but core skills on all 8 party members ^^

The amount of fail is going to be hilarious. GW can stil be challenging if you simply dont roll the most powerful builds.

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Using spiritway with a panic mesmer, two melees and a protect monk. Epic pawnage in Ferndale. Meh, change the melees and one monk to 3 discord necros if you want to pwn more

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

Sogm rit
ST rit
SoS necro
Curse necro
MM necro
Interupt mes- most of the build stays the same but the elite varies on the group size in the area
Dedicated healer monk

Quad agro in a vq....got taken care of quickly and no one dropped below 90% health.

Expherious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Wolfenstein Fuel Dump

Melandru's Elite Hunters [Hunt]

D/

3 discord Necros, 1 Offensive Spiritmaster, 1 Defensive Spiritmaster, 1 Water Snare ele and 1 Panic Mesmer. Ive been trying to die, hasnt happened.

Rafiftw

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2010

Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

A/E

3 Discords, 2 Spiritways, Panic, Commandagon

Easy mode

Life Bringing

Life Bringing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Fissure of Woe

[LOD]/[GS]/[DL]/[LOD*]

N/P

I dont understand why people are still using discord. Single target damage is extremely meh when you have the damage output that 7 heroes allows

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

So I did DoA HM and almost fell asleep, until Gloom where I lost because I forgot about 50% miss chance and didn't have asuran scan...

Me as R/W Barrage/SY/EBSoH
2x MM <- actually maintained 10/11 minions each most of the time, I was impressed.
1x SoS/SW/Rest rit <- 16 channeling for rape weapon
1x ST rit <-shelter is cool, other then that this build was just random stuff I threw together. Not that it was bad, but it was probably sub optimal.
1x Panic mesmer <- lol interrupts, wastrel's is also awesome damage.
1x OoP/DF/MoP Necro <- because sometimes, splinter weapon just isn't enough. Also OoP lets me hit well over 100 damage per shot with barrage.
1x Healing Burst monk <- Need at least 1 healer for the hardest area of the game, I think.

Started out in foundry, triple aggroed in the third room and still no one died. BTW: panic in there on all the enemies AND multiple allies along with the minions is funny is hell, everything just starts twitching like crazy.

awry

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2008

3x sf eles, 1x bip touch ranger, 2x monks, me(necro), 1x paragon with "They're on fire".

Aggro'd everything in Foundry and it took a long time for me to die, perhaps 7 minutes or so in the third room. I probably wouldn't have if I hadn't taken a minion master build to test it out and had a mouse with me. BTW, I LOVE the 'y' key

` Marshmallow

` Marshmallow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2009

Canadaa!

Last Friday Night [TGIF]

E/

Me as a /Rt spirit spammer. Because ele's arent all that amazing in HM xD I still run earth time to time but meh c:

1 Panic mesmer
1 Esurge mesmer O:
1 MM
1 Curses nec
1 healer necro (Because whispers' would feel left out if I didnt take him.)
2 aog dervs.

Tirzan

Tirzan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Italy

Ice Slayer Clan [ISC]

Me/E

playing with my paragon now and always hated running discord.
will run:
- 3 para
- 1 orders
- 2 monks (ua/hb)
- sos rt
- sogm rit

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

I was just playing with this:

Me (VoS Dervish)
1 healer Monk
1 RoJ Monk
1 Minion Bomber
1 SoGM Rit
1 N/Rt healer
1 Panic Mesmer w/Blood support
1 Psychic Instability/Fragility Mesmer

...it works pretty awesome. I was doing Stygian Veil and only died because I suddenly lagged massively and rubberbanded halfway across the map and aggroed like three mobs, grrr.

I will definitely try out more combos tomorrow, though this is fun.

Terrible Surgeon

Terrible Surgeon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2009

hopper

A/

3 ROJ monks with 40/40
3 AoTl necros all superior runed
WOH monk

flag around and stuff Xplodedes

spray04

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2010

This is what I'm running now, it's beautiful lol. Even threw a couple of pets in to add to the zerging.

Arctica

Arctica

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

Hungary

Ministry of Fate [MoF]

Rt/

1 Panic Mes
1 PI support
1 MM protter
1 MoP smiter necro
1 Earth Shaker warr
1 prot monk
1 healer monk

with me being a spiritspammer. Works great, though I think I am running too defensively.

Saru The Boss

Saru The Boss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2010

Texas

We Gat Dis [HRUU]

A/

2x Esurge (or 1 and a panic Mes, depends on the area.)
3x Defile/Desecrate necros. (SS/FoC[<3])
1x SoS/Splinter.
1x Healzor. (HB/ER prot+infoose.)

Sharkinu

Sharkinu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Romania

Smells Like Bear Spirit [Norn]

R/

Sab-way necros(never liked Discord), SoS rit, SoGM rit, Earthshaker warrior and Panic mesmer with fallback. I love it

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo



This'um.

apoggy

apoggy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Manchester, England

Farming Zaishen [keYs]

Mo/E

2 vanquishes so far, easy as pie

Tyris Requiem

Tyris Requiem

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

UK

W/

Oops I broke the game.

Anaraky

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2010

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because discord + the additional hexes and spells like putrid bile do aoe as well as having a hella lot(20-30) minions while laughing and rolling your face across the keyboard. not to mention discord takes everything down in less than a second. oh and you still have about 4-5 skill slots per hero for utility and support. The thing is, Putrid bile and so forth isn't exclusive to Discord. Bringing Discord not only takes up an Elite slot but also decrease the power of the rest of the bar due to the amount of casting the heroes have to do to actually put Discord to decent use. This would be fine if Discord in itself was powerful, but if you start looking at things it really isn't. It is conditional, it requires constant casting and its DPS isn't that good. It is a good spike skill, but that's about it. It is horrendously overrated due to it giving the player an illusion of power when you spike someone down fast. At the end of the line a well put together non-discord group will be more efficient.

OT: I've been running a SoS Rit/SoGM Rit/Curser+Blood Nec/MB Nec/Healing Burst Monk/2xSmiters+Prots Monks on my Warrior. The damage has a ramp up time but once you get going the only thing stopping that setup is a heavy AoE spike. Anything else will be rolled due to the overwhelming amount of minions and spirits coupled with great AoE healing due to Dwayna's Sorrow, Blood Bond and Heaven's Delight.

Avison

Avison

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2010

D/Mo

Discord these days isnt as conditional as some skills. Some hexes literally leave a condition and with me running a ebon dust derviwh and having two mesmers in my group i literally dont have to do anything it just happens. But personally I'm not a fan myself but a little discord can only help but too many is just silly.

I'm running:
1 Ebon Dust Derv or AoG+GA Derv
3 slots standard sabway
1 signet of ghostly might ritualist
1 signet of spirits spammer
1 psychic instability mesmer
1 paragon for whatever utility or partial imbagon i want

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

I have to ask: Has anyone completed full UW with 7 heroes yet?

Nemesis of God

Nemesis of God

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Finland

Azura Empire [AE]

Mo/E

The real question is what DOES NOT work?

Jerec The Raven

Jerec The Raven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2011

United States

[GOD] Green Amibition

R/

I got one basic SS, with hex heavy. One ineptitude, one VoR, one ER Backline, one ROJ monk, one UA monk, one prot rit, and one BM(me).

macke

macke

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Serbia-Belgrade

W/

I, Dragon Slash, SY spam, Sab, One Invoke Lighting Ele, One Earth Ele whit few wards, Impetitude Me, One Smite Monk. No need for monk healer :P Tho i am thinking of dropin' SS for one more Air or Water ele just for fun

Way to easy :/

I' am going to try next team whit 8 pets, that must be fun! xD

da mahius

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2010

Rip of the Golden Pheonix [RoP]

E/Mo

I would really like to see a lot of Non-Discordway builds. Most builds here aren't specified...
E.g. HB Monk
...nothing else, you could specify what exact build. For Example here is what I am running (I'm still experimenting)
Me - SoS (PvXWiki Build)
MoW - Sabway Resto (See 3 -Necro HM Sticky on this section)
Livia - Sabway Curse (See 3 -Necro HM Sticky on this section)
Olias - Sabway MM (See 3 -Necro HM Sticky on this section)
Razah - SoGM/Resto (Not really useful for two roles at once won't post build)
Koss - DSlash War (w/ Sever Artery, Gash, Silverwing Slash, FGJ, not complete)
Goren - Earthshaker (PvXWiki Build)
Jora - Not Sure... Same as Koss with a few tactics skills

I'm open to Advice on changing this, though I'd like to keep the Sabway and My own Build. I might put in a Panic Mesmer (PvXWiki Build) or a Barrage Ranger (PvX Wiki Build).

I like the fact that you can specialize your whole team for specific missions/areas/dungeons. E.g. A lot of Fire Nuker Eles and Fire Barrage Rangers for Secret Lair of the Snowmen.

Anaraky

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by da mahius
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I would really like to see a lot of Non-Discordway builds. Most builds here aren't specified...
E.g. HB Monk
...nothing else, you could specify what exact build. For Example here is what I am running (I'm still experimenting)
Me - SoS (PvXWiki Build)
MoW - Sabway Resto (See 3 -Necro HM Sticky on this section)
Livia - Sabway Curse (See 3 -Necro HM Sticky on this section)
Olias - Sabway MM (See 3 -Necro HM Sticky on this section)
Razah - SoGM/Resto (Not really useful for two roles at once won't post build)
Koss - DSlash War (w/ Sever Artery, Gash, Silverwing Slash, FGJ, not complete)
Goren - Earthshaker (PvXWiki Build)
Jora - Not Sure... Same as Koss with a few tactics skills

I'm open to Advice on changing this, though I'd like to keep the Sabway and My own Build. I might put in a Panic Mesmer (PvXWiki Build) or a Barrage Ranger (PvX Wiki Build).

I like the fact that you can specialize your whole team for specific missions/areas/dungeons. E.g. A lot of Fire Nuker Eles and Fire Barrage Rangers for Secret Lair of the Snowmen. Your setup seems solid enough in my eyes, but I personally would probably want either more prots or more AoE healing. Sample builds;

E/Mo ER as per PvX
Mo/Me Healing Burst with Dwayna's Sorrow (has great synergy with the Minion Bomber). Check out either "Generic Healer" on PvX or the "Healing burst hero" thread on these forums for builds.
Dwayna's Derv (check out the "Let's abuse some Dervishes" thread).

Going any of the above instead of a Warrior would also allow your SoGM Rit to be more focused on spamming spirits instead of healing.

Bringing a Panic mesmer is probably a good choice in most areas as well.

My 2c.

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

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Originally Posted by Kunder
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So I did DoA HM and almost fell asleep, until Gloom where I lost because I forgot about 50% miss chance and didn't have asuran scan...

Me as R/W Barrage/SY/EBSoH
2x MM <- actually maintained 10/11 minions each most of the time, I was impressed.
1x SoS/SW/Rest rit <- 16 channeling for rape weapon
1x ST rit <-shelter is cool, other then that this build was just random stuff I threw together. Not that it was bad, but it was probably sub optimal.
1x Panic mesmer <- lol interrupts, wastrel's is also awesome damage.
1x OoP/DF/MoP Necro <- because sometimes, splinter weapon just isn't enough. Also OoP lets me hit well over 100 damage per shot with barrage.
1x Healing Burst monk <- Need at least 1 healer for the hardest area of the game, I think.

Started out in foundry, triple aggroed in the third room and still no one died. BTW: panic in there on all the enemies AND multiple allies along with the minions is funny is hell, everything just starts twitching like crazy. Gotta say that switching out the 2nd MM for a Keystone Signet mesmer is going really nicely in lower corpse areas and especially areas with blocking (see: Stygian Veil/Gloom). Slightly less impressive amounts of loleasymode steamrolled Margonites, though. Trying to incorporate an AoD Derv with support heals, but the AI just doesn't seem to be reliable and its too much to micro for the harder battles. Would go for it myself but my Derv is still so damn far from DoA...

Me:Barrage/Distracting Shot/Save Yourselves/Ebon Battle Standard of Honor/For Great Justice/Serpent's Quickness/Antidote Signet/Optional PvE slot
MM: AotL/Masochism/Animate Bone Fiend/Blood of the Master/Dark Bone/Aegis/Protective Spirit/Signet of Lost Souls
SoS:Splinter Weapon/Ancestor's Rage/Signet of Spirits/Mend Body and Soul/Spirit Light/Protective was Kaolai/Siphon Spirit/Signet of Creation
ST: Soul Twisting/Recuperation/Shelter/Armor of Unfeeling/Mend Body and Soul/Spirit Light/Protective Was Kaolai/Boon of Creation
Panic:Panic/Wastrel's Demise/Mistrust/Channeling/Waste Not, Want Not/Power Drain/Hex Eater Signet/Flesh of my Flesh
Keystone:Keystone Signet/Symbolic Celerity/Mantra of Inscriptions/Unnatural Signet/Signet of Clumsiness/Signet of Deadly Corruption/Hex Eater Signet/Signet of Distraction
Blood/Curse:Cultist's Fervor/Mark of Pain/Order of Pain/Dark Fury/Blood Bond/Meekness/Enfeebling Blood/Blood Ritual
HB:Healing Burst/Dwayna's Kiss/Shielding Hands/Aegis/Cure Hex/Spirit Bond/Power Drain/Leech Signet

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

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Originally Posted by spray04 View Post
This is what I'm running now, it's beautiful lol. Even threw a couple of pets in to add to the zerging.
interesting setup


Re: commandagons
I'm pleasantly surprised to see paragons being used. Apparently people acknowledge that they're not that bad (if they run command). GFTE is 1.4x damage on all your minions after all (critical hit). Since most of the time I spend vanquishing is looking for the last mob (lol 30 min VQ and 1 hour looking for 1 group), I prefer fallback +GFTE with high command over another damage dealer.

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Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
HB:Healing Burst/Dwayna's Kiss/Shielding Hands/Aegis/Cure Hex/Spirit Bond/Power Drain/Leech Signet How do you get the prot spec (especially for Spirit bond/Aegis/Shielding Hands which all need it to be pretty high)?
11+1+1 heal
9+1 DF (=8HP/sec ~4 regen)
9+1 Prot
6 Inspir
is the best I can do (or drop prot to 8+1, up DF by 1).

13 on shielding hands, +80 on Spirit bond, 9s on Aegis (9spec is all that's needed)
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@OP:

Right now I'm doing 6 man zones in Tyria but when I did 8 man zones on my monk I used a balanced team, just for the sake of balanced:
1 Mesmer w/ Panic
2 Rit SoS hybrid w/ spirit Light
3 Necro AoTL Minion bomber w/ prot spirit+SoA
4 Paragon w/ Fall back, Stand your ground, gfte , wild throw
5 Dervish with Avatar of dwayna, meditation, flash enchants, dark fury
6 Ranger barrage, d-shot, sloth hunter, etc.
7 Monk UA+DH+HD +gift+deny+SOA+dismiss (disabled) 14DF, 10 Heal, 10 prot / Healing Burst 13Heal,13 DF

too bad I can't use Ele, ...or assassin, warrior in melee

gfte has synergy with the 2 physicals + 10-11 minions

If I wasn't limiting myself to one of each I'd run another Mesmer with Illusion or Keystone. SOGM rit is too slow (some spirits are on 45 recharge) and unlike SoS you need a whole bar to do it. SoS + bloodsong need a total of 2.5 seconds (1+0.75 aftercast +0.75) whereas SOGM needs ~6-7 seconds of setup time.

A ST rit is an option over Minion bomber in low corpse areas. Could probably also swap monk out for a smiter's boon guy (for judge's insight barrage fun).