So which of those 7 hero builds are working?

I used something similar once upon a time. Ultimately, it's your call. Have fun with it. The rest of the build is looking much better. I agree with you Kaida, the rest of the build is really the core of my team; after all, this is a thread about hero builds. Here's another alternative for my bar:

A couple questions, I'm using the SoGM Rit but using Boon of Creation as my e-management. I noticed you have that Signet of Creation in there. Obviously you feel that is superior, does anyone agree/disagree?

I'm going to tweak my mesmer builds because I think my Domination mesmer is just killing all her energy spamming a lot of Wastrel's stuff. Is your mesmer actually casting Chaos storm or are you having to micro that?

I've never really explored the monk hero, superior to the basic "Sabway necro"? Since my main is a Rit I play the SoS with Boon of Creation too, I even bring in Spirit's Gift sometimes for mass condition removal. It's honestly up to you, but I guess most people chose not to bring them because they are enchantments and you need to pre-buff them.

I've been testing some team builds that people have posted here, mixing up some things. This is what I'm running right now.

1 SoS Rit (Me)
1 SoGM rit hero
3 Necro heroes standard Sabway
1 Panic mesmer hero
1 Ineptitude mesmer hero
1 Soldiers Fury para hero

In most areas I was testing I was killing mobs really quickly and there was never any serious damage to me. I'm satisfied with the mesmers and I don't see that much a difference between Sabway and Discordway, just using Discord mainly for when I have trouble killing bosses.

I wasn't really happy with my VQ of Sacnoth Valley though. I was nearly wiped near the burning forest/Kathandrax, the fire AoE was killing my party pretty quickly.

Any comments on what I could change for that? Or is that generally always how the burning forest is?

EDIT: Obviously the mesmers are supposed to interrupt the casters, but when they fail with that it seems I become really vulnerable. Maybe remove the paragon or 2nd rit and swap for a prot monk?

Burning forest is always the hardest part of Sacnot valley. 3xSearing flames+ Savanna heat+ random aoe fire damage isn't good for your red bars. :P

Options are: 1)insane amount of rupts 2)insane amount of prot+heals/cond removal(and pain inverter) 3)insane amount of damage(kill them before they can kill u).

I'd use the first two tough. Ok thanks,

I was thinking about making the second mesmer use a Tease build then, since the curses AoE seems to quickly take down groups of enemies anyway. I think I can do without the blindness and just switch between the two depending on the situation :P

I always flag, and usually have my spirits spread out tanking in such situation with the heroes behind, but the fire AoE was eating everything, I guess I might have overaggroed too.

This is what I'm running now, it's beautiful lol. Even threw a couple of pets in to add to the zerging.

Thanks for posting this!!! I have completed FoW(twice) in NM (waiting to try HM) as well as many HM missions and VQ's using this.

I don't recommend switching to soul twisting if you're just using offensive spirits because heroes don't use it well. Did you give him either a staff that adds 15 energy or a one-hander with +5 energy inscription and a focus? Also, what I do is push Spawning Power up to 14 and have Communing at 13 instead of the other way around; that way, he gets 6 energy each time from Boon of Creation. He should have no energy problems.
Well he did a lot better with soul twisting than with sogm, also its the lack of speed that bothers me, with ST the bindings recharge so he can use them again and again while we go for the next. With sogm he is just a problem not a solution for me :/

Sorry, a little off topic, I'm was planning on doing Shard of Orr tonight in normal mode (yeah, that how I roll......). My main is a dervish. What hero setup would you bring? I'm thinking of just rolling like 7 copies of RoJ. That should work, put roj on the 3 monks and 3 necros for a laugh and an easy dungeon^^

If i'm correct RoJ doesn't cause scatter in NM so you would seriously pwn everything. You should go Avatar of Balthazar for some more holy dmg pewpew.

Sorry, a little off topic, I'm was planning on doing Shard of Orr tonight in normal mode (yeah, that how I roll......). My main is a dervish. What hero setup would you bring? I'm thinking of just rolling like 7 copies of RoJ. Yes, did it very easily. First time I ever took on Fendi without wiping once.

I was too lazy to rune my monks so I basically went:

Me - Avatar Balthazar/SY! (which I hated, really clunky compared to the Pious Renewal Spammer)

2 Necro's - RoJ/Protection

Necro - RoJ/Curses

Dual Mesmers - Panic and Ineptitude

Monk - UA

Rit - SoS / Restoration Healer


The mobs more or less instagibbed under the holy damage onslaught.

Yes, did it very easily. First time I ever took on Fendi without wiping once.

I was too lazy to rune my monks so I basically went:

Me - Avatar Balthazar/SY! (which I hated, really clunky compared to the Pious Renewal Spammer)

2 Necro's - RoJ/Protection

Necro - RoJ/Curses What was your RoJ/Curses build? I'm curious cuz that's what I'm running now.

What was your RoJ/Curses build? I'm curious cuz that's what I'm running now. Smiting stuff

Strength of Honor
Ray of Judgment (for NM play only)
Smite Hex
Smite Condition

Curses/SR Stuff

Signet of Lost Souls
Barbs
Enfeebling Blood
Mark of Pain

Still trying out with different hero combinations. ^^ But just one thing is remarking to me: 70% of the builds is 3 discord necro's + 2 rits + 2 mesmers. I can see why everyone takes those rits and mesmers. But what's so great about discordway? I know it does a lot of damage, but it's just against 1 foe. Or am I just saying just dumb thingies?

I haven't tried 2mesmer/rit + discordway yet. But can anyone tell me is it one of the best choices or should I just stick to 2 mesmers/2 rits + 1 bomber + 1 healer + optional Agree, mostly cause i really do not like discord/sab/whatever way of predefined heroes. Generally i play:
-Me as damage dealer
-Heal monk
-Protter
-Sos(with P shouts like fall back and anthem of disruption)
-MM if corpses aivable(generally a AotL, i like 11xlvl 20 minions than some squishy bombs)
-Mez(generally PI or Stolen speed. Panic only w/ very huge mobs like aracni, Ineptitude only on strong meele areas)
-2 free slots to adapt to area: generally 1 support(curse necro/communing rit/ para) and 1 damage(Roj/esurge) with a little of healing. Sometimes a meele(derv or Earthshacker war).

Quite flexible, depending of area and what you feel to play.

Still trying out with different hero combinations. ^^ But just one thing is remarking to me: 70% of the builds is 3 discord necro's + 2 rits + 2 mesmers. I can see why everyone takes those rits and mesmers. But what's so great about discordway? I know it does a lot of damage, but it's just against 1 foe. Or am I just saying just dumb thingies? Because they didn't buy mesmer mercs.

Lack of fall back is also baffling. Speeding up all that dead time in all PvE is huge, as good or better than killing things fast.

Finally some variety! (/Looking at the interesting monk bar)

P.S: SS + Panic/Ineptitude is a big nono. Wut? Panic for the casters inept for the melee... Works like a charm

Finally some variety! (/Looking at the interesting monk bar)

P.S: SS + Panic/Ineptitude is a big nono. In nm it is overkill, but in HM it removes alot of pressure while SS can still deal it's damage. I thought it SS+Panic+Ineptitude was bad at first until I managed to survive some of the biggest overaggro while vanquishing Jaga Moraine.