Wintersday Workshop 2011!

Baktwerel

Baktwerel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2011

E/R

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes View Post
My main issue is that all charr seem to despise Wintersday. Buuuut... Yeah but Pyre was also fighting on the side of our characters. It's the least that we drag him into the middle of our celebration

GeminiJuSa

GeminiJuSa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2009

BhLd

E/Mo

It's so exciting to see what you all make ^^

I'm going about the thoughts of having a cute wintery love-pic with Koss and Melonni. Though with winter-modified armours.

Another thought I have would be to make a mini-series of pics with wintersday in the different campaigns...

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2010

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Originally Posted by Baktwerel View Post
Yeah but Pyre was also fighting on the side of our characters. It's the least that we drag him into the middle of our celebration hahaha, poor thing XD

Valdis the Unmaker

Valdis the Unmaker

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2011

Knights of Caelo [Hevn]

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@Konig: Thanks! Yush, I have been working on making the "ribs" thin. The right side is now moderately detailed and fixed. And actually, the second concept art is the one I referenced from; seeing as an avatar of Grenth isn't the God himself. I went with Kekai's concept

But thanks so much!! I'll be working on fixing those things :]

Death By An Arrow

Death By An Arrow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

The Kurzick Mob [Mob]

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Alright, so I've narrowed down what I want to do... a little bit.

I think I want to do something on a rather grandeur scale - so something focusing on a landscape. So initially I'm thinking a scene involving one of the redecorated cities. What are some other location-based wintersday activities that occur outside of the main cities, whether in the lore or a location you can visit in the game? Just want some extra ideas in my head to muddle around with.

Some ideas specifically sticking out in my head are the large wintersday tree in lions arch, and that snowball dominance quest with all of the people throwing snowballs. Not totally satisfied with either right now, but they could be workable.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

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Originally Posted by Valdis the Unmaker View Post
@Konig: Thanks! Yush, I have been working on making the "ribs" thin. The right side is now moderately detailed and fixed. And actually, the second concept art is the one I referenced from; seeing as an avatar of Grenth isn't the God himself. I went with Kekai's concept

But thanks so much!! I'll be working on fixing those things :] But you know... The concept art is of the avatar, not the god. The truest image of the gods we have are the statues, assuming those are duplicates of the ones made by Malchor, who made statues while looking at the gods themselves.

I have no clue why people take the avatar and use them as what the gods themselves look like, when its stated in everyday that's not the case... Not to mention that they're so terribly different from the descriptions given by the scriptures... Avatar of Grenth doesn't look like an old robed man behind a mask, and the Avatar of Dwayna has no majestic wings... Just wing-designed clothing.

Valdis the Unmaker

Valdis the Unmaker

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2011

Knights of Caelo [Hevn]

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes View Post
But you know... The concept art is of the avatar, not the god. The truest image of the gods we have are the statues, assuming those are duplicates of the ones made by Malchor, who made statues while looking at the gods themselves.

I have no clue why people take the avatar and use them as what the gods themselves look like, when its stated in everyday that's not the case... Not to mention that they're so terribly different from the descriptions given by the scriptures... Avatar of Grenth doesn't look like an old robed man behind a mask, and the Avatar of Dwayna has no majestic wings... Just wing-designed clothing. Ehhhh... Well, on both wikis the image for Grenth, as in the god, is the concept art. So, even if it's supposed to be the avatar, the title of the art piece itself is Grenth.

Not all that important though.

Either way, I think the avatar is more interesting to look at than just a robe and mask :3

But here's more progression, I'll be fixing up armor specifics and stauff as I go :]

As an interesting thing, just for the heck of it, I'd like all your guys' vote on what he should be crushing in his upheld hand? Something to represent spring/summer/the end of winter. Examples might include the ultimate victory of holding Dwayna's head (though that's a bit morbid), or possibly holding a bunchful of roses/flowers or something springlike that are now rotted and deadified.

You all decide ^^

Draken Burst

Draken Burst

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Join Date: Jun 2008

Flordia

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@ Konig

Hence the confused look on Pyre's face as Gwen is trying to give him a gift.

Pyre's Thoughts: What's this? A gift for me? "The "Mouse" being friendly? .. What is this wintersday spirit you speak of? And WHO TIED HOLLY TO MY TAIL? Grrrrr!"
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Started inking some bits, the smudging was getting messy. Added M.O.X

Update:

Konig Des Todes

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@Valdis: that concept is there cuz as you said its more interesting than looking at an old guy in a robe. Though that still isn't Grenth.

Regarding your pic, I'd say take something Spring-like and freeze it over. For the "ribs," it seems weird with them being so far spaced apart, so I'd either push them down or make more green lines, as the brown definably looks like it should be thinner.

@Draken: Pyre's face looks more sad than confused to me tbh. Mainly due the the angle of the eyes, particularly the upper line.

@DBAA: The first Wintersday affected place that comes to mind is Tombs, though tbh, it seems all of Elona and Tyria gets snow (even Vabbi is said to get snow), so anywhere there would work.

Valdis the Unmaker

Valdis the Unmaker

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Join Date: Oct 2011

Knights of Caelo [Hevn]

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@Konig: Hmmm, this is true. Well, I relooked at the concept art and changed around the armor a bit. It lacks the glowies I'm gonna put in but I'm too tired to continue tonight.

Konig Des Todes

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Even without the glow, I think that looks much better!

Valdis the Unmaker

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Thanks!! ^^

I agree. Thanks so much for the critique, it looks much better now! -highfives-

PS - I just read your fall of the gods thread. Very much epic.

Morag D

Morag D

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2007

UK/Austria

[bone]

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I agree with Konig, that looks much more like a torso keep up the nice work!

Rends with Tongue

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2011

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It's nice to see that others have started on their projects so far. I've kind of begun mine, although I'm taking steps that I don't normally take, which is to draw it out first (I'm not an artist). This is hopefully so that I can put that up for critique before I begin the actual project itself. It's important that I nail a good setup and perspective since I'll need these to determine how I go about the rest. I may also write a story for an entry, although I'm not getting as many wintersday ideas as I had for the Halloween contest...

Anyhow, I'll have to figure out a different site to use as I don't really care for photobucket or worpress, but I have no talent for web design to create something custom. Any thoughts on a good blog-ish site that could be used?

Morag D

Morag D

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Join Date: Mar 2007

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@ Rends: will be intrigued to see what you are coming up with!
as for blog thingy, I'm using my own art thread here on Guru, putting all my updates in one post to link to the first page of this one here. If you leave me a comment on my art, I'll let you hijack my thread and put your post in there. You can then go back and edit that post whenever you have updates

Sura

Sura

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2011

Austria

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wow so many awesome entries already! . Time to get my own ideas out there!
I have two ideas in mind, we will see which one i will finish, if i will be able to finish anything at all. Very busy atm and commissions are piling up...

So my first idea is kid Gwen and kid Jinglebear in Gwen's Garden, since this idea is very similar to Murke's entry i will maybe add in a kid Kieran Thackery. Second idea is a illustration of the awakening of a winter sylvari.

So here is my official workshop entry:

Hey, Thistle! I want to participate in the workshop!
Name: Sura
Idea for entry:Gwen and Jinglebear in Gwen's garden; Awakening of a winter sylvari.
Art form type: Digital Illustration
Progress Gallery Link: tba

Morag D

Morag D

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Join Date: Mar 2007

UK/Austria

[bone]

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Sura, I really like the idea of a winter sylvari! (but then, knowing Anet, you'll prolly be better off with something more cutesy and conventional for the official contest )

well, here's a little update on mine



worked some more on the sketch and detailed the wings. I thought I'd go for lots of feathers, but I fear I might have overdone it... thoughts? Also not too happy about the far-left part of the hair AND I have to figure out what to have for a "background"

Draken Burst

Draken Burst

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Join Date: Jun 2008

Flordia

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I've always felt that Digital art has had an advantage on Traditional Art in the main contest, which saddens me.

Rends with Tongue

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2011

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Originally Posted by Morag D View Post
@ Rends: will be intrigued to see what you are coming up with!
as for blog thingy, I'm using my own art thread here on Guru, putting all my updates in one post to link to the first page of this one here. If you leave me a comment on my art, I'll let you hijack my thread and put your post in there. You can then go back and edit that post whenever you have updates
That's quite nice of you to offer. I'll likely comment on your art either way now that I know it's there, although I think I need to figure out the blog thing. It's kind of been one of my goals lately to 'master' my online presence, so I'll probably try to contact Sierraa per Thistle's advice (I'll be honest: I thought 'hosting' meant that you had to have an existing blog/site. See how little I know?)


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Originally Posted by Morag D View Post Sura, I really like the idea of a winter sylvari! (but then, knowing Anet, you'll prolly be better off with something more cutesy and conventional for the official contest )

well, here's a little update on mine

Death By An Arrow

Death By An Arrow

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Join Date: Jul 2009

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Morag, I think those feathers are awesome. Just the right level of detail for me. It also kinda works because her dress is a little more simplistic, so it contrasts well with the complex/busy feathers.

And I wouldn't say cutesy and conventional is something they favour... they just seem to pick.. a lot... of it >.> Though last year (or the year prior?) the painting of the grenth avatar won first prize. That certainly wasnt cute

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

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Morag - that’s looking good. I love the concept and the pose. I think the wings look fine. I wonder how the hair would look if the lower left bit was lifted and had upwards motion (as the wing seems to)

Sura - I would very much like to see what you make of the awakening of a winter sylvari.

` Marshmallow

` Marshmallow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2009

Canadaa!

Last Friday Night [TGIF]

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Hey, Thistle! I want to participate in the workshop!
Name: ` Marshmallow

Idea for entry: SNOWGLOBE
Art form type: Digital
Progress Gallery Link: Will post later:c

Also, has anyone gotten their in-game prizes yet? <W< I haven't~

DobbyTheHouseElf

DobbyTheHouseElf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2011

A desolated cave near Ascalon

Imperial Guards Elite

R/Mo

Oooh, I think I'm going to make a puppet show! No idea snatching!
Is this the Right type of art thing? I'm new to this competition!
I'm assuming you mean the official GW ones from Halloween and not the ones from the Halloween workshop XD? I ended up declining my MKG, because the release form made me uncomfortable, and requested them to give it to GWGuru for a contest like they do with the costume codes, but I never heard back from them D: This was after they sent me an email that I didn't fill out the release form completely, so I'm sure if there's an issue, they would email you They're probably just running way behind or something, because I never did get a response about giving it to guru or to an email question I had sent when I first saw the release form :O

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Originally Posted by DobbyTheHouseElf View Post
Oooh, I think I'm going to make a puppet show! No idea snatching!
Is this the Right type of art thing? I'm new to this competition! Sounds like a video? Or picture stills? Or maybe puppet design? As long as it's GW or GW2 related then you bet! Looking forward to hearing/seeing more

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

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Wow, wonder what it was in the release form to make you decline it O_O
It would be totally awesome if Anet offered it for a workshop prize! I could drop Regina a message over MSN and ask about it tomorrow (uhh seeing that it's almost 2 am, I mean today), if you want...
Haha, nothing ominous XD They wanted our SSN, too, and I just wasn't comfortable emailing that coupled with the other personal info (blaming paranoia on and baby hormones and years of human subject research data training since I know most people wouldn't care XD). The rules said prizes go to the next in line, but since I wasn't sure if they were referring to the honorable mentions and not just the grand prizes, that's why I asked if it was possible to give a MKG to guru instead of completely removing it from the available minis pool.

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Also, just wanted to put this out there, if you need help with the workshop, just shoot me a PM I should be receiving PM notice emails now. *leaping hug* thanks! I think it should be (knock on wood) smooth sailing from here on out Right now, just making sure I keep first post updated and answer any workshop admin questions! I bet the hardest part of the workshop from here on out will be tracking down all the winners who don't make it to the after party to give them their prizes XD

DobbyTheHouseElf

DobbyTheHouseElf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2011

A desolated cave near Ascalon

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When is the official deadline for the competition? I know it was probably somewhere at the beginning, but I searched the text and didn't find it!
I have finished my first puppet for my puppet show-a ranger. I plan to make cutesy puppets of most of the classes and put them together in a (hopefully) funny puppet production. Is this type of thing OK? Nothing at all too serious! (it will be mildly like the Harry potter puppet pals)
Also, does this have to have something to do with wintersday? I have owned GW for less than a month and I haven't a clue what wintersday is! Is there some kind of winter quest/event that is always undertaken?
Anyway thanks for answering all of my noobish questions! These entries y'all have made are so beautiful and professional, I hope there is room for my felt crafting hobby!

Death By An Arrow

Death By An Arrow

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The Kurzick Mob [Mob]

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@Dobby;

Preferebly it would involve wintersday. However, that might be hard if you've never experienced it yourself! I would highly advise you check out the wintersday articles on the official wiki so you can get some background information on what happens. In short;

Dwayna and Grenth (the gods of... well grenth is death. so dwayna is living? the Monk and Necro gods. ) battle it out every year to see who reigns champion over wintersday (someone wanna jump in an fill in that vague response? :S). For roughly two weeks, Lions Arch, Kamadan, Droknar's Forge, Tomb of the Primeval Kings, Eye of the North, and Ascalon City get decorated in a festive, snowy coat (Kind of like halloween, if you were able to attend that. except more holiday festive than halloweeny). I know its suppost to be politically correct for all, but shares many similarities with how americans celebrate christmas; there are gifts, candy canes, a large Wintersday tree, lights, ornaments, etc. etc.

Then, just like halloween, at the finale (Always december 31st; Wintersday!) everyone can get a nice holiday hat (which is different every year; usually there are 2 a year, but we have seen 4 in a year once!) for celebrating. Lots of fun and good cheer!

If you want a little more perspective from the players, I would check out all of the winners in the previous Wintersday Art Contests (if there isnt as link in the workshop's main page, you can search around the official guild wars site for them. should be under contests).

As far as I know the official deadline hasn't been announced yet; the workshop usually starts a little earlier than the official contest so we can get a jump start on things. Its generally somewhere in the 20's of december (20-29th, for the most part. that week) but things can always change! The workshop deadline is usually a little bit after Arenanet's deadline, so we wont know until they tell us

Also, the potter puppet pals are amazing. I highly anticipate seeing how this pans out! If you have any pictures of your puppets, complete or incomplete, and/or a script we would love to see them! I'm sure there are plenty of people who could help you edit your script so its the best it can be ^^

Hope that helps!

I, on the other hand, have had almost no internet access as of late. VERY intermittent periods for me. My desktop, for whatever reason, gets almost no wireless reception from my wireless USB stick (despite my laptop getting near perfect wifi from the same location) and my laptop is in getting fixed. So I havent had time to research into places, or look up references. My laptop 'may' get fixed by friday, but its looking more like monday.

Darcy

Darcy

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Morag - the hair is too much one piece. You need to break it into wavy sections; at least the lower part. You could probably get away with less feather detail, but it looks great to me.

This contest brings me more excitement over the holiday season than anything else. I'm loving the variety of entry genres.

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

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I just had a lovely donation from Val Karye

25k
50 mes tomes
10 ele tomes
25 celestial stones
1 elite war tome
1 elite monk tome
mini forest minotaur
250 glacial stones
2 torment gemstones
1 stygian gemstone
15 mysterious tonics

DobbyTheHouseElf

DobbyTheHouseElf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2011

A desolated cave near Ascalon

Imperial Guards Elite

R/Mo

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Originally Posted by Death By An Arrow View Post
@dobby:

Dwayna and Grenth (the gods of... well grenth is death. so dwayna is living? the Monk and Necro gods) If any of you have some good, clear pictures of these two guys, that would be really helpful. I have been looking at Grenth on the wiki and he is always shadowy dark, mysterious, etc. It is actually really hard to try to convert him into a 1-1/2 inch puppet with cutesy features. I'm kinda ok with dwayna, just human+wings.
if either of these guys have specific accessories, then I really need to know. Accesories are what you use to specifically tell the puppets apart. Ranger = random woman in green dress(if it doesn't have the bow and arrow!)
Also, what classes would you guys like to see in the puppets? I am going to make 3 or 4 more main class puppets and I cannot make them all! Preferably ones with Really big obvious Accesories! I have already made the ranger and am working on the warrior!


What will happen if Dwayna and the Grenth both die. If the other puppets kill them off will I have to deal, with continuity errors from other stories? I can work around it, but I would preferably be able to kill the Grenth at least (he is a major creep, amiright?)

PS. pretty pretty please can you tell me how to change my profile pic (death by arrow's one is really great, I'm going to have one of Dobby!)-EDIT found it, now time for dobbiness!

Death By An Arrow

Death By An Arrow

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The Kurzick Mob [Mob]

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You can certainly take your own spin on the story of grenth vs, dwayna. Whether or not they can die may be tricky, because they are technically gods. Their 'avatars', or servants, or whatever they're known as could very well be killed though!

From the sounds of it, you are making their 'shrine' NPC (honestly, that is a horrible name I just came up with! bare with me though.). I want to call them avatars, however it gets more complex because there are dervish skills that transform you into Avatar of (God here).

The blue angel and the black phantom with the purple face? If so, you can actually visit a character with an identical model ingame! All you need to do is kneel infront of ANY shrine of grenth or dwayna while we have favour (we almost always have favour, so don't worry about that!) and they'll pop up. I didn't know this until a year and a half of playing, so theres that just incase.

If it is a more accurate depiction of the gods themselves, you can also find those models in game! They appear in the forms of the Dervish Avatar of (Insert Gods Name) elite skills; they turn your character into an avatar of each of the 5 gods. [see where this gets confusing :S]



Konig may be the best to answer what would happen if either god died though; hes a HUGE lore buff. I imagine something along the lines of a war

It might be good to make a dervish puppet! They have a very characteristic hood/armor and scythe. You could also make a mesmer with a masquerade ball-type face wear (be sure to make them purple/pink!). Really any profession can be distinctly told from another based solely on what kind of mask they wear, so its whatever characters fit your story

Hope that helps ^^

Baktwerel

Baktwerel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2011

E/R

I'm a little held up by an exam but hopefully I can post my sketch too soon ^^

DobbyTheHouseElf

DobbyTheHouseElf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2011

A desolated cave near Ascalon

Imperial Guards Elite

R/Mo

It is really sad, I was initially going to make the puppets out of felt. I have finished the ranger puppet, but it is TOP HEAVY . I can no longer make them out of felt (my attempts for splints don't work either ) Now I guess I shall have to adapt and make them from paper.