Wintersday Workshop 2011!

` Marshmallow

` Marshmallow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2009

Canadaa!

Last Friday Night [TGIF]

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DEEEEEEEEEEER +___+ -draws furiously- Thank goodness I have this weekend off...maybe I can do the ol' cough n call tomorrow>:3

Minami

Minami

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2008

Dallas, TX. USA

Not in any guild at the moment

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Oooo! What a development! O_O

*reeeeeeaally tries to get the picture done*

Hey Thistle, if you need help with the increasing volume of people entering the workshop, let me know
I'll write to Sierraaa or Unlucky to restore my editing mod powah

Gogogogo everyone!!! Super speshul wintersday contest! ^_^

I look forward to see all the entries and progresses

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2010

slightly updated entry form so it doesn't use [highlight] bb code anymore but will still grab my attention

Thanks for the offer, Minami! I've got Aero as my backup if I need to be away for more than 24 hours or if we get a sudden massive influx of people, but I'll remember to keep you in mind if we need another backup

Valdis the Unmaker

Valdis the Unmaker

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2011

Knights of Caelo [Hevn]

W/Rt

I need an opinion from everyone.

The Grenth pic is coming along nicely, and I'm liking how it's all working out and such. Still need to add in the souls of the dead begging at his feet.

But I feel like it needs to be more frightening, more "GOOD GRACIOUS WINTER ISN'T GOING TO END!!!"

So I'm highly considering a joking comment I made earlier about Grenth holding Dwayna's disembodied head. The header/whatever you want to call it for the drawing is "Winter will never end". Well, not if Dwayna's still around. Maybe Grenth got sick of the silly fights every year and decided to just end it permanently.

Morbid? Very
Eye catching? Yes

It's either that or he has to be holding something spring-related and killing it with frost. Like a plant or something. I'm still partial to Dwayna's head... But, I'll let you guys decide.

PLEASE GIVE FEEDBACK

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

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Valdis, I know the gallery is in the OP but linky or pic (spoilered) is very helpful when asking for feedback.

Maybe make the pic look colder somehow? Does it have to be Dwayna's head? I am a bit squaemish - what about him clutching her throat - that would mean you have to draw Dwayna too though ^^

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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Originally Posted by Thistle Xandra View Post
slightly updated entry form so it doesn't use [highlight] bb code anymore but will still grab my attention

Thanks for the offer, Minami! I've got Aero as my backup if I need to be away for more than 24 hours or if we get a sudden massive influx of people, but I'll remember to keep you in mind if we need another backup I can help there too with my awesome super modding powers!

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2010

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
I can help there too with my awesome super modding powers! haha, ok, so we now have a backup to our backup to our backup XD Thanks!
I would personally advise against the head; adding gore to your piece would turn me away from it more than feel more frightened.
Note: Personal Opinions ALL THE WAY through here.

This is just my personal opinion, but I find that gore, unless it is the focus of the piece/theme/scenario from the beginning , is the worst way to generate fear. Sure, no one wants to watch gore but it is very blunt and to the point; there is no suspense, anxiety, or provocation of thought to consume you.

So, still just my opinion, but I would try and impliment something subtle but creepy.

Ex. To try and explain what I mean. What would you find scarier/more terrifying/had a bigger impact:
Watching someone be grabbed by [insert monster or horror villain of choice] and having their arm cut off
or
Watching someone be taken away, but see them partially come back struggling to hold onto something, then taken away completely followed by blood-curtling screams.
I find that thrill/fright/suspense comes from having your audience be able to interpret the worst thing imaginable. Because, more than likely, they will think of something much, much worse than anything you could have showed them upfront.

So relating it back to your piece, is there a way to imply that dwayna's been be-headed without showing her severed head, or corpse? Possibly something along the lines of crushing part of the headress she wears here? Perhaps even having feathers drifting out of his hand [blood could be lightly applied to them, to show they arent just assorted feathers but feathers of something dead] could be enough.

That way you know that she's dead, but you don't know how she died. You may think of beheaded, someone else may think of being skinned. Skinned would be much worse IMO, yet would be too violent to depict and would negatively impact the piece.
Alright, opinions done

Hope that helped, even to just create a spark in your brain. A spark is the first step to having a blazing fire

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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Gonna have to agree with DBAA on gore. It's not frightening, nor is it horror. It's gross, yes, but nothing more.

You'd be better off having a swarm of insects in Grenth's hand, as there's a large number of people afraid of bugs (especially when large or in excess). But that's not very Grenth-y (unless they're Humbugs, aka spiders, I guess).

Death By An Arrow

Death By An Arrow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

The Kurzick Mob [Mob]

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Gonna have to agree with DBAA on gore.
It's not frightening, nor is it horror.
It's gross but nothing more.
You are a poet Konig.

` Marshmallow

` Marshmallow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2009

Canadaa!

Last Friday Night [TGIF]

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Was too scared too cough n call -sob- I'll scan wot I have now n update my progress gallery link :3

Widowmaker

Widowmaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

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I need an opinion from everyone. A severed head need not be slathered in buckets of gore. But it does succinctly symbolize defeat, which I suspect may be the point.

I would, however, play the tune you feel the judges would be most likely to accept.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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You are a poet Konig. That was... unintentional.

I think my English classes with all those poem examining is rubbing off (and killing brain cells, bleh - tempted to change my major despite being an aspiring author).

Tee Wrex

Tee Wrex

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2011

IL - USA

Easily Annoyed (WTF)

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HI!

☆Hey, Thistle! I want to participate in the workshop!☆
Name: Tee Wrex
Idea for entry: Yakkington Sculpture
Art form type: Sculpture/Sculpey/Metal
Progress Gallery Link:
http://www.photobucket.com/teeart

Thanks in advance, and hello everyone!! (Tee Wrex!)

Ferocious Thanatos

Ferocious Thanatos

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2011

Easily Annoyed

N/Rt

Hello,
☆Hey, Thistle! I want to participate in the workshop!☆
Name: Ferocious Thanatos
Idea for entry: The Mighty Thong-goat!
Art form type: Digital Art
Progress Gallery Link:
http://www.photobucket.com/ferart

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2010

Hi, you two (just replied to your PM, Tee Wrex )! Please make sure you read the first post and fill out the entry form (ready for a copy and paste!) and put it in your posts That way, I know *exactly* what you would like for me to list

Also, in addition to posting your galleries, you're strongly encouraged to post your latest WiPs using the [img] and [spoil] tags so everyone can easily see that you have something to show and want feedback

Let me know if you have any more questions!


EDIT: I fail, it's [spoil], not [spoiler] XD

obastable

obastable

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

Edit #2 because it's easier than doing another post:

☆Hey, Thistle! I want to participate in the workshop!☆
Name: obastable
Idea for entry: haven't figured that out yet
Art form type: digital art maybe - i have a hankerin' to do it but we presently lack a tablet ... so mebbe so, or mebbe not.
Progress Gallery Link: tba


Edit: LOVE those last two entries, Tee & Ferocious.

Boxers for Gaki .. no more Gaki Thong Butt!
I SO want to buy that Yakkington sculpture! He's SO CUTE.

Death By An Arrow

Death By An Arrow

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Join Date: Jul 2009

The Kurzick Mob [Mob]

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I had the same reaction as obastable; very high quality work there Tee Wrex! I literally thought it was a screenshot from the game, until I realized the snow was cotton balls (or something similar, im sure they sell fake snow). Then i realized it was the sculpture!

It looks like a wooden carving thats been painted even though i know its sculpey. Again, awesome work!

Ferocious: Bahah; the expression on the gaki's face is priceless! I will admit I didn't get it at first, but then i went and read the title and burst out laughing. Such a great idea!

Welcome both of you to the workshop! I hope you stay around and help share the atmosphere ^^

AS FOR ME. Still nothing. I know, I suck. I bombed a chemistry test today so I'm not feeling too great about that, and ive got another test tomorrow. I had a little bit of time, but I spent it making a drawing for a friend going through some hard times that needed some cheering up (and that seemed a little more important; making someones day )

Essentially, School school school... schoolschool, schoolschool schoolschoolschool. Did I mention school?

If I can't conjure up time any time soon, the extended workshop deadline DOES allow me to work on my piece while I'm on holiday break (starts 23rd, due date around jan 1st ish. plenty of time!) So, worst comes to worst, I'll start with my break.

Tee Wrex

Tee Wrex

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2011

IL - USA

Easily Annoyed (WTF)

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Thank you both so much!!! I tried to make him look like a woodcarving!!! I had started one in wood, but I knew his horns would be too fragile - and several spots would be too weak - so I RE-did what I had begun in clay, but used the same look!! I was able to get more texture this way though, and am really happy with him! He makes me smile! LOL

I know Fer and I were talking about a caption for his Gaki pic, but we haven't thought of anything thats quite right yet! Brainstorming....

Valdis the Unmaker

Valdis the Unmaker

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2011

Knights of Caelo [Hevn]

W/Rt

Oh dear, I seem to have caused a quite a disturbance over that...

Just so you all can put your minds at rest, gore has nothing to do with a severed head. Not in the least. A head doesn't store all that much blood comparatively.

And so you all know, I agree that blood and gore have nothing to do with horror. It is gross and not frightening in the least. It's just disgusting. Dead bodies, however, are moderately creepy. That's more what I was leaning towards. Gore would just be repulsive :/

Either way, I think I'll shy away from that and head more towards one of the other directions... Probably the crushing of Dwayna's headpiece or something similar.

Eek....

I feel like I aught to apologize. Simply because I find skinless, macabre, and generally creepy things absurdly easy and fun to draw, but many people just shudder. So, I apologize for that, not considering what would be appropriate and or enjoyable to look at... I never started drawing the head. I was waiting to get feedback. Because I want to know what you guys want to see from where I'm at :]

Minami

Minami

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2008

Dallas, TX. USA

Not in any guild at the moment

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Welcome to the newcomers!


I like the new entries, they have awesome atmosphere and the Gaki made me laugh with that expression Good job!

EDIT: A side note to Thistle and those involved: I will be absolutely unavailable and pretty much impossible to reach on the 6th, 7th, and 8th of December.
Those who know why, please don't tell anyone. Thanks

Starfleck

Starfleck

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2010

Ex Diku Mud Addicts [iMud]

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I'm going to lol at myself once I finally decide I don't have enough time to finish this... /facepalm
..but I'm working up a few sketches. 3 ideas so far but I'm looking to narrow down to 1 good hand-painting. So, a question for anyone to help me on my third idea (or to throw it out):
If Gwen got a Lexus in the driveway from Thackeray this wintersday, what do you think it would be, a sleigh, yak or what?
Is that meant to be a pun?

:P

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Originally Posted by Valdis the Unmaker View Post
I feel like I aught to apologize. Simply because I find skinless, macabre, and generally creepy things absurdly easy and fun to draw, but many people just shudder. Oh, macabre is fun and easy to draw (oddly, skulls are the one thing I find easiest to draw, and I have lots of fun with it. Ever draw a "smiling" skull in a cowboy hat with swirliness for the deepening of the eye sockets? Crazy cowboy skull! )

Gore isn't repulsive to me, but to most it is. It just isn't horror, and that's the route I'd go for with the darker side of Grenth.

I personally would probably go with some torn wings, but that's me.

KiyaKoreena

KiyaKoreena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Kirins of Holy Light

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I need better time management skills. Or just to simply be a SAHM again. >.<

After work (and getting Christmas tree decorated) I will start plotting out my project. Absolutely no idea where my tablet pen disappeared to....

DobbyTheHouseElf

DobbyTheHouseElf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2011

A desolated cave near Ascalon

Imperial Guards Elite

R/Mo

Oh boy, I am ROYALLY screwed aren't I?
These works are too much for me! Just so ultra amazing I can't frigging believe it! I'm going to be holding up little pieces of paper in front of a live video low quality digital camera and hoping it all goes ok!
I still have to make all the characters
write a script that will be accepted and relevant to gw
and pracise all the different character voices and preparero read them all out at once

Am feeling pretty overwhelmed here

GeminiJuSa

GeminiJuSa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2009

BhLd

E/Mo

Making animations really takes time >_<

Death By An Arrow

Death By An Arrow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

The Kurzick Mob [Mob]

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Don't let the abilities of others dishearten you;


They were ALL, at one point or another in your position I bet if you asked them, they would mostly still feel the exact same way. The only way to get better is to just keep working at it. Thats where I feel I'm at; getting past the sucking part.

If you put everything you've got into it now, you will atleast be able to see what you are strong at and weak at, so you can play on your strengths and build on your weaknesses next time ^^

-motivational speech-

Also, Valdis don't feel the need to apologize! There is no right or wrong answer with what you go with.

Sasultra

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2010

I live on earth...I think oO

(ULOB)

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Yes I`m very open to anyone idea or opinion about my art

Sasultra

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2010

I live on earth...I think oO

(ULOB)

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I see what you mean, so I fixed it people are now able to comment. Thank you

Thistle Xandra

Thistle Xandra

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2010

Sasultra, just sent you a response reply to your PM Sorry about the confusion, I didn't mean for you to actually change your progress link to allow comments

Sasultra

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2010

I live on earth...I think oO

(ULOB)

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@death By An Arrow - I like your picture hehe gj

Sasultra

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2010

I live on earth...I think oO

(ULOB)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferocious Thanatos View Post
Hello,
☆Hey, Thistle! I want to participate in the workshop!☆
Name: Ferocious Thanatos
Idea for entry: The Mighty Thong-goat!
Art form type: Digital Art
Progress Gallery Link: http://www.photobucket.com/ferart

Valdis the Unmaker

Valdis the Unmaker

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2011

Knights of Caelo [Hevn]

W/Rt

@DobbyTheHouseElf: DBAA said it just right! Just keep working at it, because you enjoy it! Everyone's been at the point of feeling like they could be better - you can do it mate! We're all rooting for you!!

@Konig: Hahaha... It was unintentional XD

And thankee everyone for the feedback!
Also loving all the entries! The Yakington made my day :]

Morag D

Morag D

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2007

UK/Austria

[bone]

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very cool stuff! the Gaki picture really made me laugh, such an awesome idea XD and great sculpting skills on that Yakkington!

@ Sasultra: I really like what you've created, but unfortunately your collage doesn't show it off at all. All those photoshop filters are really confusing, and distort what you're trying to show. With some you can't even tell whether it's a painting or a sculpture you're entering... I'd suggest to pick one good photo, edit that very lightly so that the light/shadows and contrasts are fine, but you're still able to tell what's going on. If you wanted to make a collage, you should use pictures from different angles, and maybe one or two detail shots. Present them in a nice and clean layout, and it will portray your cool work in a much better way
Oh, and the photos need to be bigger! I wanna SEEEE what's going on

Death By An Arrow

Death By An Arrow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

The Kurzick Mob [Mob]

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I was hoping I could get started on my piece, but somethings have... unfortunately come up. Definetly not in the mindset to draw anymore, but I'll try to keep helping everyone with what they're coming up with :/