Anyone else just got a perma ban?
BadOwnZu
They banned 4 of my accounts, only one of them I put a ticket for. all 4 got banned in 3 different ban waves. All Restored at the same time. I didn't even do a ticket for 3 of them and they still got unbanned
Lord Asakurra
I'm glad all the innocents are getting their accounts restored! Hopefully when I get home after work mine will be, too. I'm kind of anxious xD
Cleavage
In all honesty if they should only remove bans if you can provide the account creation information.
Name
Address
CD Keys
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Innocent and first time offenders being un-banned is great but I don't want to see the scum who hack/steal accounts get those accounts back.
Name
Address
CD Keys
etc
Innocent and first time offenders being un-banned is great but I don't want to see the scum who hack/steal accounts get those accounts back.
Blue Inferno Master
I think maybe they should run a bunch of tests to make sure the ppl they are going to ban are rly doing something wrong and they have 100% proof. an automated system takes nothing in to account other then what its programed to, and if that auto ban system glitches then ppl get ban for no reason, someone or anet thought it would b better to place a "bot" to watch out for bots clearly they were wrong. I also think some kind of we are sry "someone" fuked up package is in order some kind of ingame item or items for the ppl that were wrongly ban!!
Melanie Mckenzie
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In all honesty if they should only remove bans if you can provide the account creation information.
Name Address CD Keys etc Innocent and first time offenders being un-banned is great but I don't want to see the scum who hack/steal accounts get those accounts back. |
Since creating my account, I got married, which changed my name, meaning proof of ID would no longer work since my ID's have my new name on it. I then changed my first name because it was difficult to pronounce for the people in the US, where I moved to from Europe. Which is where the adress comes in. I've changed locations so many times, I have no idea what adress I had when I created the account. Even more so because as a kid, I always had two adresses because of divorced parents.
CD keys are long lost because of the insane amount of times I have had to move, I still have one key, but I have no idea which account it is linked to.
Sadly, when an account is close to 10 years old, a lot of things can have changed from when you gave them info during account creation. Personally I feel like the way theyre unbanning right now works fine. If someone did get their account stolen, and they do have the info to prove its theirs, by all means they should give that account back to the owner. But being unbanned for something you didnt do, only if you can provide information that was valid 10 years ago? Lets just say I'd still be banned, despite not having done anything wrong.
Surge goes pre
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I was thinking the same thing.
But if they want to be so cheap with the game, shouldn't they just stop paying for Chris Cleary ("Shazbawt") to do "security"? He doesn't seem to be very good at what he's doing. Heck, Gaile Gray even took the time to respond to some of the inquires in the official GW2 forum. Then Chris Cleary locked the thread 3 hours later. He shut down a thread Gaile Gray was responding to just to keep his banning practices confined to tickets that take months to answer. (If he could edit GWGuru, this thread would have been flushed.) I would rather have bots and hackers running wild though the game than to deal with this broken mass-banning of innocent accounts every time they want to tweak the code. And that alone, causes me to pause.... There are no official forums for Guild Wars 1, so there is no community feedback. They don't have an actual Guild Wars 1 support site. If you try to use the Guild Wars 1 support site it will tell you to go to the Guild Wars 2 forums, where they will promptly close any threads regarding Guild Wars 1. (WTF?) You can submit a GW1 ticket, which they admit will have a slower response time than a GW2 ticket, and receive a generic response in one or two months. The entire game has been moved into automated status. There are no updated holiday events. No new armor, weapons, or festive hats will be designed. All planned Guild Wars Beyond storylines have been canceled. It seems like no money is being spent... ...And yet, they can afford to have a "Fraud & Game Security Lead", who can't hold down a job for longer than 3 years, combing over the GW code looking for hackers. Why the funds for this, but none of the other stuff? Drop him and save even more money, the game will run smoother. |
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In all honesty if they should only remove bans if you can provide the account creation information.
Name Address CD Keys etc Innocent and first time offenders being un-banned is great but I don't want to see the scum who hack/steal accounts get those accounts back. |
Toxon
Thank you all! Thanks Gaile, for bring back the justice and fairness.
All my accounts are unbanned now.
Good job, anet/ncsoft., you regain my trust tho i missed cathan new year event.
All my accounts are unbanned now.
Good job, anet/ncsoft., you regain my trust tho i missed cathan new year event.
Cleavage
So can anyone verify being un-banned who never sent in a ticket ? I think we all have some friends who gave up hope and never bothered to send a ticket that might be delighted with some good news.
Ranger From Uw
People getting de-banned were banned 2 days ago or is there more similar cases as BadOwnZu who had been banned from first wave till now ?
Title Points R Us
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So can anyone verify being un-banned who never sent in a ticket ? I think we all have some friends who gave up hope and never bothered to send a ticket that might be delighted with some good news.
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Ether Myth
unbanned on all accts, only sent ticket for 1 acct.
i'm back!
i'm back!
MaxBorken
Good news for the innocents.
Has anybody who knows they did bad things been unbanned? I wonder if they're just hitting the undo button for every ban following the shambles of how it was done.....
I'm always happy to keep peoples' feet on the ground and remind folks not to get carried away
Max
Has anybody who knows they did bad things been unbanned? I wonder if they're just hitting the undo button for every ban following the shambles of how it was done.....
I'm always happy to keep peoples' feet on the ground and remind folks not to get carried away
Max
Toxon
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People getting de-banned were banned 2 days ago or is there more similar cases as BadOwnZu who had been banned from first wave till now ?
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jayson
Friend was unbanned. 
Blue Inferno Master
this is good news that ppl are getting unban, I guess its a waiting game to watch for accounts to b reinstated. there is hope for anet and GW1 again
Title Points R Us
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Good news for the innocents.
Has anybody who knows they did bad things been unbanned? I wonder if they're just hitting the undo button for every ban following the shambles of how it was done..... I'm always happy to keep peoples' feet on the ground and remind folks not to get carried away Max |
Bristlebane
Woot, thanks for the heads up Cosy. Had to check and all my 6 accounts were unbanned as well !
I never reported anything, I just kinda gave up thinking it's maybe a queue to stop playing GW. I would never have known if it wasn't for Cosyfiep.
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are only the accounts that have sent in a request about it being restored? does anyone have any idea? I am unsure where to go or what to do about this?
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Ether Myth
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Good news for the innocents.
Has anybody who knows they did bad things been unbanned? I wonder if they're just hitting the undo button for every ban following the shambles of how it was done..... I'm always happy to keep peoples' feet on the ground and remind folks not to get carried away Max |
jayson
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I do know of people who botted heavily and have gotten unbanned. Seems to be a mix of innocents and guilty people getting unbanned
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cosyfiep
so I am back on all of my accounts---had only put in the support ticket on the main (as I couldnt remember the info I used for the others after 8 years, and a sh*t load of other [email protected] having gone on in my life since then.)
I am in agreement on the ignorant way this was carried out (yes by the kid--and I am waaay old enough to be his mother--if I were his mom he would be grounded for life
and if I were his boss--he would have found a nice pink sheet of paper in his mail and that his access card deactivated)
and the poor communication skills of the CS team as well as the amount of time it took to take care of this---my anger is very long lived (ask my hubby).
Yes, we got our accounts back, but they never should have been banned in the first place, and the relationship with this company has been permanently tarnished. (and yeah, I never fly by untied airlines after what they did to me---25 years ago)
glad you are back bristle
I am in agreement on the ignorant way this was carried out (yes by the kid--and I am waaay old enough to be his mother--if I were his mom he would be grounded for life
and if I were his boss--he would have found a nice pink sheet of paper in his mail and that his access card deactivated)and the poor communication skills of the CS team as well as the amount of time it took to take care of this---my anger is very long lived (ask my hubby).
Yes, we got our accounts back, but they never should have been banned in the first place, and the relationship with this company has been permanently tarnished. (and yeah, I never fly by untied airlines after what they did to me---25 years ago)
glad you are back bristle
Title Points R Us
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so I am back on all of my accounts---had only put in the support ticket on the main (as I couldnt remember the info I used for the others after 8 years, and a sh*t load of other [email protected] having gone on in my life since then.)
I am in agreement on the ignorant way this was carried out (yes by the kid--and I am waaay old enough to be his mother--if I were his mom he would be grounded for life and if I were his boss--he would have found a nice pink sheet of paper in his mail and that his access card deactivated)and the poor communication skills of the CS team as well as the amount of time it took to take care of this---my anger is very long lived (ask my hubby). Yes, we got our accounts back, but they never should have been banned in the first place, and the relationship with this company has been permanently tarnished. (and yeah, I never fly by untied airlines after what they did to me---25 years ago) glad you are back bristle |
Blue Inferno Master
I am finding a bunch of ppl that were ban are now unban including ppl that should have been ban and stayed ban. but as of now. I still am unable to log in to any of my or my wives accounts. I hope this is not a sign of things to come!! feeling rly let down by ANET and allowing a child with a GOD complex to have the access to such stuff!
Xunil
Well, seems ANet has at least recognized their "conservative" policy was not so conservative at all.
Fortunately, all my accs have been unbanned.
Fortunately, all my accs have been unbanned.
Pleikki
Well Im happy for all who got unbanned without doing anything wrong, and from all this we can learn, never get multiple accounts, even if u allready got em, dont use more then one anymore so things like this wont happen again! ;D Since from what i see, noneone with only 1 account was banned in first place!
Peace
For people who got unbanned
can you say please when did you get the ban ? like what date or something
there is people who didn't get unbanned yet , and maybe this clear some answers
can you say please when did you get the ban ? like what date or something
there is people who didn't get unbanned yet , and maybe this clear some answers
Blue Inferno Master
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Well Im happy for all who got unbanned without doing anything wrong, and from all this we can learn, never get multiple accounts, even if u allready got em, dont use more then one anymore so things like this wont happen again! ;D Since from what i see, noneone with only 1 account was banned in first place!
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kerosinigami
Wow, everyone I am so happy for all of you, I am really ecstatic you have all gotten your accounts back. I am stuck at work still and I am ever so hopeful my accounts are also restored. I will update you guys when I get back home.
Wow what great news, almost like a dream. Really really happy for you all.
I know it is not likely, as it kind of gives away their screening process, but it would be nice to know what got detected and how we could possibly avoid getting flagged. This is still a scary thing ya know.
Wow what great news, almost like a dream. Really really happy for you all.
I know it is not likely, as it kind of gives away their screening process, but it would be nice to know what got detected and how we could possibly avoid getting flagged. This is still a scary thing ya know.
cosyfiep
I would still like to know what flagged my accounts --botting? seriously I cant pvp and have no reason to do this, but I can do random things while playing so that I do not look like a bot (heck I dont even farm--just cant sit that long). was it being in jq on the zquest day to get rid of the quest on my paragon? guess I wont go to jq everagain. 3rd party program? is my texmod corrupt? is there something wrong with my exe of gw? (should I rereredownload it?)
Would really like to know since this was way past rather upsetting (yeah, read my posts).
or was it that the kid just had too much sugar when he was flagging. and seriously a permanent termination for a first time offender, really? that is like cutting off a persons leg for a wart on their big toe.
and on the multiple account holders...this means that familys can no longer play together, I can no longer play with my husband? (he got me into this blooody game in the first place!) that is just plain WRONG.
not over by a long shot...they can just as easily re-ban anyone at anytime for NO reason and tell you 'this is permanent and we wont read anything else you write to us'.
Would really like to know since this was way past rather upsetting (yeah, read my posts).
or was it that the kid just had too much sugar when he was flagging. and seriously a permanent termination for a first time offender, really? that is like cutting off a persons leg for a wart on their big toe.
and on the multiple account holders...this means that familys can no longer play together, I can no longer play with my husband? (he got me into this blooody game in the first place!) that is just plain WRONG.
not over by a long shot...they can just as easily re-ban anyone at anytime for NO reason and tell you 'this is permanent and we wont read anything else you write to us'.
Bristlebane
I'll still do dual accounts I'm afraid, but limited to just access my storage chars.
Now.. when is the Canthan New Year redux lol.
Now.. when is the Canthan New Year redux lol.
Blue Inferno Master
I can understand all the frustration for everyone. so far this year I had 4 deaths in my family then I go to log on and lost 4 accounts total . everything is going in 4s for me this year. happy I can not have any more kids I would end up with 4 new bbys lol but I am vry happy for everyone that got accounts back. as soon as mine are returned to me I will let everyone kno. and thanks to everyone that got the ball rolling for all of us to have this unjust act corrected
cosyfiep
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For people who got unbanned
can you say please when did you get the ban ? like what date or something there is people who didn't get unbanned yet , and maybe this clear some answers |
4 accounts on 29th/30th last month (dont know the exact time as I didnt check until after midnight)
2 accounts on my sisters birthday 17th of this month.
only sent in a ticket on my main account, would still like answers.
and yeah, what compensation are they going to give to folks who were erroneously banned? sorry just isnt gonna cut it especially when many missed that holiday (I was lucky to still have 2 accounts that could do it). Personally I want a mini panda or island guardian. (and the resignation of the kid).
and dang only 2 deaths in my family this past year....4 is just ....(no words for it), hang in there.
ACWhammy
I got unbanned as well! Thank you to whoever corrected this! (Gaile Gray?)
And congrats to everyone else as well, but I share cosy's sentiments as well - what the heck flagged our accounts for ban?
And congrats to everyone else as well, but I share cosy's sentiments as well - what the heck flagged our accounts for ban?
Blue Inferno Master
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4 accounts on 29th/30th last month (dont know the exact time as I didnt check until after midnight)
2 accounts on my sisters birthday 17th of this month. only sent in a ticket on my main account, would still like answers. and yeah, what compensation are they going to give to folks who were erroneously banned? sorry just isnt gonna cut it especially when many missed that holiday (I was lucky to still have 2 accounts that could do it). Personally I want a mini panda or island guardian. (and the resignation of the kid). |
I would b happy with 1 stack of ectos and a mini polar bear or panda. (and the resignation of the kid). I doubt we will get out of this. matter of fact when I went threw all of this to get my account back that was hacked I got nothing back. all ectos shards gold and armors,weps everything was gone and I was told . sry we can not roll back accounts that software is "broken" and no longer available for use lol was out 1500e I power traded for 6 months to get that. was saving up to finish off my zrank
kerosinigami
Whoa guys, getting ahead of ourselves here. Some of us just got unbanned, lets not start a lynch mob.
Lord Asakurra
GAH I want to get home now and check! Salary jobs suck! Cough Cough maybe I'm feeling a bit... cough sick? cough cough...
Linksys
I'm glad people are getting unbanned finally. If this happens again, do this again. The whole forum and support ticket and complaint thing. Don't be discouraged by people who make passive, condescending comments.
Now that you're back in the game, screen shot all your title tracks, favorite armor, and anything else you want to document. That way if it happens again or the game is shut down, you'll have some screen shots for keepsake.
Now that you're back in the game, screen shot all your title tracks, favorite armor, and anything else you want to document. That way if it happens again or the game is shut down, you'll have some screen shots for keepsake.
Kimmie Kitty
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I am finding a bunch of ppl that were ban are now unban including ppl that should have been ban and stayed ban. but as of now. I still am unable to log in to any of my or my wives accounts. I hope this is not a sign of things to come!! feeling rly let down by ANET and allowing a child with a GOD complex to have the access to such stuff!
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cosyfiep
yes, the first thing I did was to screenshot characters that I had none for (I had quite a few days to go thru thousands of screenshot to find these...what else did I have to do?-and no sorry tooo bloody cold here to go outside and at 4am the only things on tv are infomercials!).
so I had time to think while at my doctor's appointment today, what we sooth some of my ire.
and here are my suggestions (you may add to them)
1) a support forum for gw issues --the gw2 forum is for gw 2 issues only and many have received infractions for posting there about gw issues--if this is how they treat folks who have supported them for 10 years, its no wonder we are all angry! (and yes, I understand what would be involved in setting such a thing up--as I do not have access to posting on that forum since I do not have a gw2 login).
2) TRAINING for ALL customer service people in ALL areas of BOTH games...none of this taking care of only tickets that are about money for anet issues and leaving folks who have issues like we did to get stuffed. NO company worth its salt would leave their customers hanging this long without contacting them--that is really piss poor business practice (unless your aim to to bankrupt your company).
3) better error codes, seriously code 45 covers quite a lot of ground, new separate codes for botting and a different one for 3rd party programs (would like them broken down even more but that would be a good starting point).
4) more responses from the anet folks (yes I DO know you are reading this, anyone with internet access can read our forums not just folks who are logged in). I understand their 'need' to not let on what they are using to detect activity, but...this is just plain disregard for their paying customers (heck even the cable company will give me back a day of free tv when they mess up).
5) checks and balances, even the us government does not give the kind of power this kid had to any one person--there should be a review panel of people who PLAY the game before mass bannings happen. and NO company allows their people to make immature posts on social media that will reflect poorly on their company without somekind of backlash (see: resignations--and there have been a bunch of them in the news recently).
well that was all I got for now.. I am sure I will come up with more as I try to get some sleep.
(oh and about the minipets...we know they can put specific items on peoples accounts--see gailes frogs)
so I had time to think while at my doctor's appointment today, what we sooth some of my ire.
and here are my suggestions (you may add to them)
1) a support forum for gw issues --the gw2 forum is for gw 2 issues only and many have received infractions for posting there about gw issues--if this is how they treat folks who have supported them for 10 years, its no wonder we are all angry! (and yes, I understand what would be involved in setting such a thing up--as I do not have access to posting on that forum since I do not have a gw2 login).
2) TRAINING for ALL customer service people in ALL areas of BOTH games...none of this taking care of only tickets that are about money for anet issues and leaving folks who have issues like we did to get stuffed. NO company worth its salt would leave their customers hanging this long without contacting them--that is really piss poor business practice (unless your aim to to bankrupt your company).
3) better error codes, seriously code 45 covers quite a lot of ground, new separate codes for botting and a different one for 3rd party programs (would like them broken down even more but that would be a good starting point).
4) more responses from the anet folks (yes I DO know you are reading this, anyone with internet access can read our forums not just folks who are logged in). I understand their 'need' to not let on what they are using to detect activity, but...this is just plain disregard for their paying customers (heck even the cable company will give me back a day of free tv when they mess up).
5) checks and balances, even the us government does not give the kind of power this kid had to any one person--there should be a review panel of people who PLAY the game before mass bannings happen. and NO company allows their people to make immature posts on social media that will reflect poorly on their company without somekind of backlash (see: resignations--and there have been a bunch of them in the news recently).
well that was all I got for now.. I am sure I will come up with more as I try to get some sleep.
(oh and about the minipets...we know they can put specific items on peoples accounts--see gailes frogs)
Surge goes pre
Well. I hear all the botters are back. And there are 4x bot matches in jq going atm.
The first ban wave had it right. That got 99% of the trouble people. Then they decided to keep banning and do overkill. So in the end, they just reverse it all it seems.
They should revert to the first ban wave.
The first ban wave had it right. That got 99% of the trouble people. Then they decided to keep banning and do overkill. So in the end, they just reverse it all it seems.
They should revert to the first ban wave.
K A O S Theory
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yes, the first thing I did was to screenshot characters that I had none for (I had quite a few days to go thru thousands of screenshot to find these...what else did I have to do?-and no sorry tooo bloody cold here to go outside and at 4am the only things on tv are infomercials!).
so I had time to think while at my doctor's appointment today, what we sooth some of my ire. and here are my suggestions (you may add to them) 1) a support forum for gw issues --the gw2 forum is for gw 2 issues only and many have received infractions for posting there about gw issues--if this is how they treat folks who have supported them for 10 years, its no wonder we are all angry! (and yes, I understand what would be involved in setting such a thing up--as I do not have access to posting on that forum since I do not have a gw2 login). 2) TRAINING for ALL customer service people in ALL areas of BOTH games...none of this taking care of only tickets that are about money for anet issues and leaving folks who have issues like we did to get stuffed. NO company worth its salt would leave their customers hanging this long without contacting them--that is really piss poor business practice (unless your aim to to bankrupt your company). 3) better error codes, seriously code 45 covers quite a lot of ground, new separate codes for botting and a different one for 3rd party programs (would like them broken down even more but that would be a good starting point). 4) more responses from the anet folks (yes I DO know you are reading this, anyone with internet access can read our forums not just folks who are logged in). I understand their 'need' to not let on what they are using to detect activity, but...this is just plain disregard for their paying customers (heck even the cable company will give me back a day of free tv when they mess up). 5) checks and balances, even the us government does not give the kind of power this kid had to any one person--there should be a review panel of people who PLAY the game before mass bannings happen. and NO company allows their people to make immature posts on social media that will reflect poorly on their company without somekind of backlash (see: resignations--and there have been a bunch of them in the news recently). well that was all I got for now.. I am sure I will come up with more as I try to get some sleep. (oh and about the minipets...we know they can put specific items on peoples accounts--see gailes frogs) |
However they are vague in purpose, if you are banned you are basically considered an enemy of ArenaNet to a point. They will not tell you specifics because any information can be used to know what triggers bans, and then can be worked around and be avoided. If you give more precise ban codes, you are now specifying what pushed the ban on them..
At a certain point, it is hard to determine the bullscat from the truly innocent...
As I have said before to people, you cannot draw parallels with fighting bots to a war that can be lost or won. Its like the war of the west vs the "terrorists" of the middle east.
It is a cat and mouse game like previous A-Net devs have said, however, they left out the part where there are thousands of identical mouses that can repopulate and regroup very easily, some innocent, some guilty.