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Lord Asakurra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

Spokane, Washington

Mo/

27 Jan 2015 at 16:27 - 161

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bellatrixa

Games have rules and consequences for breaking those rules, depending on the severity of what you've done. You can't go through life doing whatever you like with nothing happening to you as a result, no matter what your parents might have taught you. Things like botting have implications on the economy which can impact on game sales and income, as well as depleting a playerbase by driving them onto other games. If botters/synchers and such didn't get banned, there'd be no more legit players left as we'd all say 'sod this' and quit. Now imagine that happening on every single game. You'd eventually have a group of developers say 'Hey, we do actually need to block people from our services that cause trouble like everywhere else online and in the real world!'. And then I suppose you'd complain about that because it's a game... One day you might experience first hand why rules are needed in games. I think it might help.

I completely understand the need for rules and such- that's not my problem. What my problem is is that they pretty much said "Hey, this $400+ you invested in our game? You can't use it anymore" without rhyme or reason. Excuse my french, but if you're going to take something away from me, do it to my face and be a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing man about it, not this passive aggressive ban and hide tactic they're trying to pull...

Again, I'm not going to say I've never botted in Guild Wars- I did for quite a while, and was punished for it accordingly (3 day ban and account roll back in 2008). Last I checked, you can't be charged for the same crime twice, especially if it's been a year and a half since you've even done a mission or zoned in the game...

Edit- last rant, been too emotional about my favorite game, sorry to bring drama to gwguru cosy!

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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27 Jan 2015 at 17:19 - 162

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Asakurra

I completely understand the need for rules and such- that's not my problem. What my problem is is that they pretty much said "Hey, this $400+ you invested in our game? You can't use it anymore" without rhyme or reason. Excuse my french, but if you're going to take something away from me, do it to my face and be a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing man about it, not this passive aggressive ban and hide tactic they're trying to pull...

Again, I'm not going to say I've never botted in Guild Wars- I did for quite a while, and was punished for it accordingly (3 day ban and account roll back in 2008). Last I checked, you can't be charged for the same crime twice, especially if it's been a year and a half since you've even done a mission or zoned in the game...

Edit- last rant, been too emotional about my favorite game, sorry to bring drama to gwguru cosy!

The terms of service are displayed to and agreed with prior to commencing the gameplay. Within that is the breaches and consequences which basically tell you they have you by the balls if you put so much as a foot out of line.

If you feel like you've done the crime and done the time, proceed and ask support why you've been perma banned. Hard to tell who is being honest as some people in this very thread have been shown to be unequivocal liars.

cantalus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

27 Jan 2015 at 18:51 - 163

Quote:

Originally Posted by phat34

Their not responding to Guild Wars 1 Tickets... Seems like they don't care much about us GW1 fans anymore... They even put shows on for the GW2 Kiddies... and Perma bans??? Someone forgot its suppose to be a Game! Their actually executing paying customers now. No way to run a game! The customer is paramount! When they forgot that; it shows there is not much left!

NCsoft is a corporation, and in corporations the customer isn't paramount, the investor is paramount. "the customer is always right" is a nice little phrase, but is at best, PR

ACWhammy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2009

Texas

Gold Trim Guild [gtg]

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27 Jan 2015 at 19:35 - 164

Quote:

Originally Posted by makosi

The terms of service are displayed to and agreed with prior to commencing the gameplay. Within that is the breaches and consequences which basically tell you they have you by the balls if you put so much as a foot out of line.

Yes, they can ban you for pretty much anything. Take a look at the Rules of Conduct post I made earlier.

Quote:

Originally Posted by makosi

If you feel like you've done the crime and done the time, proceed and ask support why you've been perma banned.

The issue many of us are upset about is not simply because we were banned; it's the fact that Arenanet isn't responding to tickets. Take a look at this thread for example: https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/foru...merged/page/36

One guy has been waiting 2 months. But my favorite one is this one:

"Posting on behalf of my gf. Bought her a new account and was suspended before she was even able to make her first character."

Talk about being banned for no reason.

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

27 Jan 2015 at 20:00 - 165

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Originally Posted by ACWhammy

"Posting on behalf of my gf. Bought her a new account and was suspended before she was even able to make her first character."

Talk about being banned for no reason.

If that person paid with a credit card from the store, they could have the charge reversed. If they paid with PayPal they could submit a chargeback also. NCSoft would definitely take notice then.

It would be legitimate too.

DhuumsBalance

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2012

Burlington, Washington

Atomic Kittens [Meow]

A/E

27 Jan 2015 at 22:17 - 166

I know of a few cases of innocent people being banned I've known for years, that did nothing but just speed clears, and title work. No pvp syncing and definitely not enough money or items to have been botting or buying/selling items for RL Transactions but were dedicated players one with over 10,000 hours on Gw, and trust me, I know more than a handful of idiots who more than had the bans coming for a very very long time. But this needs to be brought to attention that people who did absolutely nothing wrong, should not suffer this and have the right to have a appeal checked, And don't come at me saying "Oh you deservewhatyougotlulzbaddybotter" or w/e you have to say I was NOT BANNED AND I HAVENT NOR HAVE I EVER SIDED WITH ANYONE WHO BREACHED POLICY.

Nayru Forever

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2015

Mo/

28 Jan 2015 at 00:17 - 167

Oh my... This is still going on?

Will the botters/ gold buyers/ syncers stop posting now seeing as you are 100% guilty + perma banned?

The innocence act is getting really boring, move on; you cheated and you're not getting your accounts back.

Lord Asakurra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

Spokane, Washington

Mo/

28 Jan 2015 at 01:18 - 168

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nayru Forever

Oh my... This is still going on?

Will the botters/ gold buyers/ syncers stop posting now seeing as you are 100% guilty + perma banned?

The innocence act is getting really boring, move on; you cheated and you're not getting your accounts back.

I don't know how long you've been playing this game because that guru account is almost brand new...but if you had been playing this game since beta, launch, etc like many of us on here you'd understand our frustration.

Some people invested a lot of money in this game and would like to see justice for the irresponsibility of the Anet staff in charge of bans. If they could show me actual proof of me botting since they last caught me, sure, I'd shut up and join the departed in peace. Due to the fact that in 13 days now they haven't been able to provide ANY evidence and the fact that their head of security is gloating on his twitter account about this incident, I find it rather shady that this is the way the company whose game I grew up playing operates.

I can totally see why you could care less, you have no memories of how much fun this game really was. But trying to take that away from veterans? Sir, you have no right.

phat34

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2015

SF Academy

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28 Jan 2015 at 02:36 - 169

the bottom line of this is they just don't get it! ...and most of u sticking up for them are mere groupies. The Best Part of Guild Wars I , a trading cohesive community, they left off of gw2 and for what reason to sell more gems/gold --??

One has nothing to do with the other... getting groups hanging in an outpost to be able to ask questions, dance, use consumables, and converse person to person, player to player, and actually be able to trade their items in a trade window, actually was the key to building value in our inventories.. The guild hall creation is def a good move... but that's only a 1/4 step. They don't really-really listen to the community and they have not been making good business decisions. This ban for example is very self defeating, not to mention it is going to cause legal expenses, form enemies, decrease sales of GW2, increase ddos attacks, not diminish botting what-so-ever, drive more people that are bored because of lack of new content to try bots, and gradually decrease the number of players, still playing in their only excellent but dying game.

RVallant

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Crimson Hydras

D/E

28 Jan 2015 at 14:37 - 170

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nayru Forever

Oh my... This is still going on?

Will the botters/ gold buyers/ syncers stop posting now seeing as you are 100% guilty + perma banned?

The innocence act is getting really boring, move on; you cheated and you're not getting your accounts back.

I'm positive it's a thing on ANet's side.

My original GW account was perma-banned. Twice actually. Basically stopped playing GW around the time EOTN came out, when I returned just couldn't get in cos of the perma-ban message. I didn't have any emails or anything about this either.

So I emailed ANet who unblocked the account, no reason given for the actual banning. Played for a month, quit, fancied having another go, returned, boom, perma-blocked again. Only this time I couldn't be bothered going through the process of emailing them again.

So I figured they're either banning accounts that were logged out for too long or I'm just having a really crappy time with ANet. I got the game again, this time I paid via ANet's store, so I have all the emails and all the serial codes, I played, maybe a month or two and then left, again.

I came back to the game last week, I went on the website, logged into the account no problem, but I can't get into the game because apparently I need a character name to get in. So I emailed ANet and their response?

"We have no record of this account"

Yeah, that's WITH evidence of the serial code and receipt and processes on their side (emailed to me) re-sent back to them. Essentially, they either a) Couldn't type in my account name properly or b) Deleted the account and hoped I wouldn't be returning to the game.

Never mind that I can actually log into the GW official forums (that would be GW2 now) or link the accounts, they simply have no record of me. ±_±

So I couldn't be bothered doing that again, it was simply quicker for me to pick up the trilogy again and screenshot my name for future reference! I'll have to make sure not to quit this time I guess!

lorenna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Ireland

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28 Jan 2015 at 15:07 - 171

This will probably be my last post as I have been banned also, for not doing anything wrong and have been punished for someone elses actions. I actually got a response from support. Ive never botted or used any third party applications but am now banned. I thought id share as it may shed some light for others as to why they were banned.

They didn't tell me specifically why I was banned..as has always been the way with anets awful support but what they did tell me let me work it out. About four/five years ago I played Guild Wars in a friends house. They later got banned because they had used a bot though. I never had used one even in their house, we were just hanging out. I played Guild Wars fine ever since they got banned. Last week then out of nowhere your account has been terminated.

I asked support and they told me it doesn't matter how long ago or for how long or if a bot was even used just the fact that it was present on a computer at some point and you accessed your account on that pc...you will be banned. If a friend, family member, partner or whoever even downloaded a bot and you logged on on that pc you will be banned..even if it is 4/5 years later like in my case. It doesn't matter if you did anything wrong yourself. And this what support themselves told me.

Id say there was at least a few others who may have been banned the same way as me. You arent going to get your accounts back. I wouldnt waste your time or money for new accounts on this silly company. My advice... move on and find a new game theres plenty out there don't waste anything else on this redicilous company.

Smoke Nightvogue

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Moscow, Russia.

Random Ascalon Fools, Soldiers of Thunderstorm.

R/Mo

28 Jan 2015 at 15:39 - 172

Five years ago, really? What other plausible stories are out there?

Wouldn't be all-too-superfluous to hear them all, just for the sake of exploring people's imagination.

Nayru Forever

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2015

Mo/

28 Jan 2015 at 18:11 - 173

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Asakurra

I don't know how long you've been playing this game because that guru account is almost brand new...but if you had been playing this game since beta, launch, etc like many of us on here you'd understand our frustration.

Some people invested a lot of money in this game and would like to see justice for the irresponsibility of the Anet staff in charge of bans. If they could show me actual proof of me botting since they last caught me, sure, I'd shut up and join the departed in peace. Due to the fact that in 13 days now they haven't been able to provide ANY evidence and the fact that their head of security is gloating on his twitter account about this incident, I find it rather shady that this is the way the company whose game I grew up playing operates.

I can totally see why you could care less, you have no memories of how much fun this game really was. But trying to take that away from veterans? Sir, you have no right.

I'm not a banned cheating noob like you so I have my account from 2005. You however are not a veteran; you started in 2008.

Back on topic, I'd like to hear more crybaby stories about accounts being banned for "no reason

"

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

29 Jan 2015 at 08:05 - 174

Quote:

Originally Posted by lorenna

This will probably be my last post as I have been banned also, for not doing anything wrong and have been punished for someone elses actions. I actually got a response from support. Ive never botted or used any third party applications but am now banned. I thought id share as it may shed some light for others as to why they were banned.

They didn't tell me specifically why I was banned..as has always been the way with anets awful support but what they did tell me let me work it out. About four/five years ago I played Guild Wars in a friends house. They later got banned because they had used a bot though. I never had used one even in their house, we were just hanging out. I played Guild Wars fine ever since they got banned. Last week then out of nowhere your account has been terminated.

I asked support and they told me it doesn't matter how long ago or for how long or if a bot was even used just the fact that it was present on a computer at some point and you accessed your account on that pc...you will be banned. If a friend, family member, partner or whoever even downloaded a bot and you logged on on that pc you will be banned..even if it is 4/5 years later like in my case. It doesn't matter if you did anything wrong yourself. And this what support themselves told me.

Id say there was at least a few others who may have been banned the same way as me. You arent going to get your accounts back. I wouldnt waste your time or money for new accounts on this silly company. My advice... move on and find a new game theres plenty out there don't waste anything else on this redicilous company.

I'm sorry that happened to you. If it happened as you remember and stated here, you shouldn't have been banned. They should have monitored more carefully to see if your account itself botted, which you stated hasn't. And they should have looked at the IP log ins on your account and seen that it was mostly another location.

I have advice to add to yours. If you want some kind of lasting marker or document of your accomplishments in the game, take screen shots of all your stats. Your title tracks, how much of each faction type your account has earned, your /deaths, your /age, your HoM in the game and on the GW2 calculator web page, your armor, your most valued and favorite items, and anything else you want to hold onto for keepsake.

And update those screen shots however often you want when your title tracks and other things have increased significantly.

ACWhammy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2009

Texas

Gold Trim Guild [gtg]

R/

29 Jan 2015 at 13:04 - 175

Quote:

Originally Posted by lorenna

I asked support and they told me it doesn't matter how long ago or for how long or if a bot was even used just the fact that it was present on a computer at some point and you accessed your account on that pc...you will be banned. If a friend, family member, partner or whoever even downloaded a bot and you logged on on that pc you will be banned..even if it is 4/5 years later like in my case. It doesn't matter if you did anything wrong yourself. And this what support themselves told me.

Do you have a direct quote from them? If this is true, then that means if anyone who was banned for botting buys a new account, that account will automatically be banned, since a bot was present on that pc nn the past.

So that would mean one would have to buy a new pc just to play Guild Wars again...that's absurd.

Title Points R Us

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2012

[叫己口] [五ムロ及]

D/R

29 Jan 2015 at 13:51 - 176

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACWhammy

Do you have a direct quote from them? If this is true, then that means if anyone who was banned for botting buys a new account, that account will automatically be banned, since a bot was present on that pc nn the past.

So that would mean one would have to buy a new pc just to play Guild Wars again...that's absurd.

Not the case whatsoever. Happily playing on same PC for all my haterz to hate on. Their search only was for programs opened during GW being opened. If you don't open said programs there's nothing for them to detect.

As for Nayru every post you make will be reported as none of them ad to the community seeing they are all trollish & childish. Your an uneducated shitter that obv can't read either. Stop being dumb & educate yourself.

Cleavage

Worlds Hexiest Man

Join Date: Jun 2006

[TRDR]

29 Jan 2015 at 16:02 - 177

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACWhammy

Do you have a direct quote from them? If this is true, then that means if anyone who was banned for botting buys a new account, that account will automatically be banned, since a bot was present on that pc nn the past.

So that would mean one would have to buy a new pc just to play Guild Wars again...that's absurd.

Yeah, this isn't true at all. Not even a chance. Not even 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000001 % chance of being true.

They cannot know if a program is installed on a computer (especially one not currently running) just by running your GW client.

Also, Titles does have a point, Nayru seems to be trying to make a name for himself by being a prick here in this thread. Although I may agree with some of what he is saying, it's just the way he is saying it and when you just keep posting the same basic message when you no longer add to the conversation it's time to stop.

I loaded into GToB the other day and actually saw Nayru's character standing there and said to myself "Haaa, that's the troll from Guru trying to make a name for himself". I would never have noticed him if not for this thread.

Title Points R Us

Lion's Arch Merchant

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29 Jan 2015 at 18:44 - 178

We need a like button on here lol

Kynareth

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2010

The City Gates

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30 Jan 2015 at 01:40 - 179

I know someone who just got a perma ban a few days ago. This person swore up and down they don't what they did...eventually the truth came out after it was admitted. Furthermore, this person has had several accounts banned in the past. While talking with this person, he then went on and on for over an hour about buying another account from anywhere but the GW store, or from a legit retailer, but this person originally claimed they don't know what they did to warrant a perma ban, when there was all this talk of buying an account illegally..mentioning sites I've never heard of...so yes, for this person, it was that song and dance of playing the innocent. I have helped this person in game extensively in more than one sense of that term, and now that he has a new copy of GW, which I have no clue is even legit, I have been repeatedly messaged in game by this person, who I have been ignoring, and now have put on my block list. This person had the nerve to ask me if I would farm them "a few ectos" to help them out on the new account. This is what you get I guess for helping some people out...they never stop bugging you and start using you. So, lesson learned...not associating with this person anymore for several reasons...doing things known to be against the EULA, playing the innocent, and expecting me to help any further in game when I spent over an hour telling this person the stupidity of purchasing a copy from anywhere other than they know they should be. The stupidity of this person is unfathomable...get banned...again...and right away start talking about buying an illegal copy. So, yes, I do agree with an earlier comment here about "guilt by association", and that is not a chance I'm willing to take. I've been playing GW 6 years now, and EVERYTHING I have earned has been done so legitimately. I take a lot of pride in what I have earned, and I won't be throwing that away for someone of the above mentioned stupidity.

ACWhammy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2009

Texas

Gold Trim Guild [gtg]

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30 Jan 2015 at 02:00 - 180

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kynareth

I know someone who just got a perma ban a few days ago. ... I have helped this person in game extensively in more than one sense of that term, and now that he has a new copy of GW, which I have no clue is even legit, I have been repeatedly messaged in game by this person, who I have been ignoring, and now have put on my block list. This person had the nerve to ask me if I would farm them "a few ectos" to help them out on the new account. This is what you get I guess for helping some people out....

This reminds me of someone I know. In my case, I befriended this person a few years ago. We stayed in-game and forum friends for quite a while, maybe up to a year. He used to ask for help with all sorts of random stuff, like if I could buy him some obbys from the mat trader because he was on a run. Just weird stuff like that. And I usually helped him. Then one day out of the blue he asks me if he can log in to my account and makes up some story about it. I immediately thought something was up and stopped associating with him after that. I was a bit disappointed that he would do that to me, since I considered him a friend at the time.

That's what con-artists do. They befriend a wealthy, nice person such as you or I, then when the time is right, try to take advantage of us. It's sad, really.

Title Points R Us

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2012

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30 Jan 2015 at 03:08 - 181

AC Can I log your acc please I..... oh wait I have my own to log nevermind. Are they that dumb they can't see we know what they are trying? lol

Heres another retard story. Nayru & The girl that Buzzan is helping trying to get her silver trim back were in kam tonight calling me scammer ect & shit talkin myself & Libido. Does that sound like someone that deserves Buzzan's help? nah not at all. Sounds like she got what she deserved to me. People don't know who others know & associate with. If the tables were turned & it was me helping someone when they were shit talkin my buddy in this case Buzzan they'd be on their own & sol. sry small rant lol

Cleavage

Worlds Hexiest Man

Join Date: Jun 2006

[TRDR]

30 Jan 2015 at 04:11 - 182

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kynareth

he then went on and on for over an hour about buying another account from anywhere but the GW store, or from a legit retailer,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kynareth

and right away start talking about buying an illegal copy.

What exactly do you mean ? Buying from the GW Store is committing a crime against common sense. Keys are keys no matter where you purchase them from. Don't be a "legitimacy sucker" finding yourself spending 2x, 3x, to even 4x with the in game store price vs other sites/outlets.

Letting this be out there so people can be informed vs misinformed.

If you buy a Guild Wars key, no matter where you buy it from, and it works....... it's legit.

Maybe I am interpreting what Kynareth understands about this subject incorrectly, idk, but just to be clear to assist others who are planning to start new.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

30 Jan 2015 at 05:44 - 183

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACWhammy

This reminds me of someone I know. In my case, I befriended this person a few years ago. We stayed in-game and forum friends for quite a while, maybe up to a year. He used to ask for help with all sorts of random stuff, like if I could buy him some obbys from the mat trader because he was on a run. Just weird stuff like that. And I usually helped him. Then one day out of the blue he asks me if he can log in to my account and makes up some story about it. I immediately thought something was up and stopped associating with him after that. I was a bit disappointed that he would do that to me, since I considered him a friend at the time.

That's what con-artists do. They befriend a wealthy, nice person such as you or I, then when the time is right, try to take advantage of us. It's sad, really.

Sounds like you had interaction for a while with a possible sociopath.

Lord Asakurra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

Spokane, Washington

Mo/

30 Jan 2015 at 06:08 - 184

Yea I'm not going to lie man I botted a lot in the past... eventually it caught up to me and I started flashing around my wealth, which resulted in my account being rolled back and a 3 day ban. I'm not an innocent player who is trying to guilt Anet into giving my account back, I accept what I did was wrong.

I do want to know, however, why they decided to permanently ban me for something I did three years ago? Wait maybe it was 4 years, 2011 seems like yesterday. I think the last thing I've done was work on a Dervish I was going to gwamm a couple months ago...

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

30 Jan 2015 at 06:44 - 185

yeah, I think it is kind of severe to just perma ban folks. why not a 3 day ban first...if they do it again THEN perma.

I think they way they are going is they are just going to ban everyone and shut the game down --they can just say that you knew someone who knew someone who talked to someone who was in a district where something ban-able happened....and then laugh when you think you know whats going on.

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

30 Jan 2015 at 07:04 - 186

I heard ppl are getting banned for multiclienting now? is that true?

Gladly im happy owned of only 1 account duh

Nekodesu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2009

30 Jan 2015 at 09:15 - 187

No. Nobody has ever, with any proof been able to prove they got banned by running two clients at the same time.

BadOwnZu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Germany

Gloom Search Party [Lost]

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30 Jan 2015 at 09:36 - 188

I just got perma'd when only program I have ever used is Multi Launch lol, and my ban reason is "Third Party Program"

so yeah.

Belle Dwayna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

The Barradin Estate

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30 Jan 2015 at 09:52 - 189

They banned my new account this night, on which one I haven't used any other program than MultiLaunch... Maybe they banned it because it's the same IP / HadwareID than my main account, but if their goal is not to clear out gw to shut down the servers, I don't understand what they are doing.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

30 Jan 2015 at 09:52 - 190

just got the same message...only used texmod...NEVER even been to ab (I am my alliance--me and my other accounts), only did jq a few times.....think they are just getting rid of everyone now--great way to end the game (still have my factions only account though...guess I will play on that until they decide it also botted).

Bellatrixa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2010

Under a blanket drinking tea and being British n_n

Brothers of Other Mother [BoOM]

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30 Jan 2015 at 09:53 - 191

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Asakurra

Yea I'm not going to lie man I botted a lot in the past

This makes your rant at my last post even more laughable. Had you bothered to read all my posts in this thread, you'd have seen that I do have sympathy for people who were banned and were innocent (as well as not caring about botting as long as it's not taking over the game), and I said the amount of innocent people was much smaller than people are trying to claim. You just proved that. It doesn't matter when you broke the EULA, once you break it you can be punished for it at any time in the future. Most games have that sort of policy. You were banned once for it, someone could have submitted evidence since then of you botting hence the second ban.

And cosy, 3 days for botting/gold selling... no. I got a 72 hour a few years ago (as did a guildie of mine) for giving someone back verbal abuse that they'd been goading myself and my guild into for months but conveniently they didn't get banned for baiting or what they said. To put the two on the same level of punishment isn't proportional. Also saying they're going to ban everyone... People keep repeating that crap in Spamadan because they read it here. It's not how ANet will do things as I stated before.

I'm not going to gloat and be all 'botter scum u get wut u deserv' because that's not how I feel about this. It's a case of you get caught out, at least hold your hands up and admit it. I have friends in game who botted and got banned. Some of them are back in the game and not botting, others have moved on. I know at least one who missed the banwave. I wouldn't bot myself but if others choose to, realise what's at stake if you do and don't try to play the innocent when you get caught out. And again, not saying everyone who's innocent is lying and those who are lying make it harder for the genuine people to be believed or listened to.

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About four/five years ago I played Guild Wars in a friends house. They later got banned because they had used a bot though. I never had used one even in their house, we were just hanging out. I played Guild Wars fine ever since they got banned. Last week then out of nowhere your account has been terminated.

Then it was an HWID/MAC based ban. It's more reliable than IP and sadly innocent people do end up with accounts banned this way as it's easier to ban all accounts linked to one HWID/MAC than sift through each account to check the number of logins from which machine/location and, not saying you're lying, but your account could have been botted on from that location for all they know. Sadly that's the nature of that type of ban and I'm sorry your friend got you banned by their actions. Having worked as a GM on a couple of private servers for other games, this is why I won't access my accounts on any one else's machine but mine. I know I won't ever bot, I don't know for sure about anyone else.

Pleikki

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30 Jan 2015 at 09:58 - 192

Ehh seems like anet rly shouöd announce someting about this if its allowed use texmod and multiclient or not. So yea guess there is new ban wave going on. Well see how many accounts now. And whom

take_me

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30 Jan 2015 at 10:03 - 193

Okay, these post make me really scared now. I can still login, but if they ban people now for using two clients at the same time (they got money for the additional accounts).......

UNBELIEVABLE....

Bellatrixa

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30 Jan 2015 at 10:07 - 194

Just logged into both my accounts just fine, only used TexMod/MultiLaunch on both. Go figure.

BadOwnZu

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30 Jan 2015 at 10:17 - 195

^ Expect your ban in the coming weeks, Kappa

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30 Jan 2015 at 10:19 - 196

Ok so now after reafing shazbawts twitters newest tweet im sure therr is wave going on

Www.twitter.com/shazbawt

Mods remove link if needed

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guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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30 Jan 2015 at 10:23 - 197

I dont have twitter (and nothing shows up when I click that link)...what are they saying? (and why hasnt someone posted/replied to his twits about banning the wrong people?)

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30 Jan 2015 at 10:24 - 198

Basically the Game Security Leader tweeted "Time To Reap" with a Dhuum picture, implying there's more bans to come

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30 Jan 2015 at 10:26 - 199

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

I dont have twitter (and nothing shows up when I click that link)...what are they saying? (and why hasnt someone posted/replied to his twits about banning the wrong people?)

i dont have twitter either and can read it just fine O.o

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Originally Posted by BadOwnZu

Basically the Game Security Leader tweeted "Time To Reap" with a Dhuum picture, implying there's more bans to come

But its this.

Ok so is Multiclinet WMware based? since

Shazbawt: "Trying to think of legitimate reasons for running games on VMWARE besides botting" 27. jan. 2015

Belle Dwayna

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30 Jan 2015 at 10:30 - 200

Honestly I hope he's not really the game security leader, he looks like a little child to who we gave a candy...

One example of his tweet :