Rune Farming - Ettin exploitation

Danger Russ

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

US East Coast

KISS

Mo/

Just scored a superior vigor and superior death from the lovely ettins over the last three days. How do I love them let me counts the ways.....

My build....I have farmed these beasts with mm, r/w, w/mo, w/me, and w/n

My favorite build - Pretty fast

W/me (no elites needed)

Tactic 16
Strength 12
Sword 9 - sword minimum
Inpiration 4 or5

Sprint
Desperation blow
Deadly Riposte
Riposte
Savage slash
Dolyacts 18 sec/20
Physical Resistance - 50 sec/20?
Healing signet

I shred these fools! Often times the one I am fighting is not the first to fall.
I try always to have both riposte activiated at the same time for the killing spike. You really do not need savage slash and I often replace it with Victory is Mine for the life boost. I am dropping conditions all over the place. Savage slash ensures the speedy kill. Desperation blow is a monster attack at 16 tactics. There is no coming back for an ettin if they catch both ripostes and a desp blow - too much damage and bleeding.

I use a zealous weapon and a elemental damage weapon. Ettin take big damage for elemental weapons.

PHoenix is cool

PHoenix is cool

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

NZ

Ashes of The Phoenix

W/Mo

Grr ive done 3 runs and ive only gotten a purple one.

PHoenix is cool

PHoenix is cool

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

NZ

Ashes of The Phoenix

W/Mo

hehe i take back what i said. i did 2 more runs and got a gold and 2 purples

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas Valheru
If you have one hench you'll only get half of the drops, if you take 2 you'll get two thirds etc. Henchies are VERY bad for farming. They're bad to EXACTLY the same extent non-henchie strangers are.

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

On my very first ettin run a couple of weeks ago I got a Sup Death and Sup Soul Reaping in my first five drops!

Haven't gotten anything as good since in what is probably a couple of dozen runs total. Indeed, the best I got were a Sup mesmer rune (big whoop), Major Absorption, and Minor Fire (which has some value, and which I actually needed due to an error that destroyed my prior one).

Oh -- my usual build is straight Earth Magic Ether Renewal -- Ether Renewal, Aura of Restoration, Armor of Earth, Kinetic Armor, Earth Attunement, Stone Daggers, Aftershock, Crystal Wave. I leave from Beetletun, and make sure to kill the Caromi Tengu Wilds BEFORE attacking the Caromi Tengu Scouts, and all is good.

Tiela

Tiela

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium, Europe

Lions des Flandres

Me/Mo

Yesterday evening, only 2 runs > 5 golds !!!... but... all five was major

KosJes

KosJes

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Wisconsin, America

Stardom Of Wisdom

R/Me

I've been doing this for a couple of weeks or so. Finnaly got a rune worth getting. Some superior elementalist rune. Sold it for 6k. Since all I do is farm it dont matter what rune I get, money is money

KindredPhantom

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Wolf Pack Samurai {WPS}

W/Mo

Deadly Ripo and Ripo are good skills to use against the ettins and also healing hands is usefull for healing as you don't have to stop and heal like Healing Signet.

icantthinkofonerightnow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/N

I'm currently using this build, which I think is a cheap alternative to many other builds because all skills are possible to get at Desert (except for Riposte, where its at some skill trainer in Copperhammer Mines or Camp Rankor).

Watch Yourself!
Healing Singet
Dolyak Signet
Gladiator's Defense
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Savage Slash
Sprint

Strength: 10
Swordsmanship: 8+1 (Helm)
Tactics: 12

Sword and Shield can really be anything I think because I was using a 16 AL only shield and an unmodded stance sword.

Forgot to mention my armor is all collector armor from Desert, so if you're not too far in the game (or poor), you can still do this build.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

It's the usual run of luck. I remember when I ettin farmed on my ranger months ago to fund his 15k armor...the gold pauldrons would drop like hotcakes. Other times, it'd be no pauldrons whatsoever.

Another thing I do while killing Ettins, I salvage the white pauldrons (a chance to get leather), and make other leather from the nearby Artisan (tanned hide squares seem attracted to me), and sell the leather at the Rare Material Trader when I'm cashing in my runes. Excellent way to add on some profit.

Shadow X

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

wow i ettin farmed for about an hour and only got a major air magic. -_-"

cootsy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/W

Thank you all for posting in this thread i have always wanted to farm ettins but never have been able to.

Here is my first run i think i done well for a first run. No major runes tho .

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

I wonder if you mean superior.

Shadowborn Demon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Brothers of Honour [boh]

Mo/

Heres what i use:

16 Tactics
10 Sword
Rest in Inspiration

Deadly Riposte
Heal Sig
Physical Resistance
Sprint
Thrill of Victory
Savage Slash
Glads Defence {E} - Not vital, dont know what else to put here
Riposte


If you use Riposte + Deadly Riposte at the same time, the next ettin to hit you takes around 200 damage + bleeding. Savage is for Heal sig, thrill of victory is a good + 40 dam, physical resistance i keep up permenantly for the extra armour, and glads adds damage when not using the ripostes.

-edit- could take for great justice instead of glads, would charge riposte every 2 hits....

KosJes

KosJes

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Wisconsin, America

Stardom Of Wisdom

R/Me

I think the Anti-Farming thing is bugged . When ever I do ettin farming runs, I start out getting nothing, but the more I go from Nebo Terrace & North Kryta, the better the runes get. Just got a Superior Absorption rune. God I love ettins

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

I've had a lot of luck using my W/E using tactics and earth magic and the riposte skills for damage. I haven't tried desperation blow but I may.

Jeremy_the_beard

Jeremy_the_beard

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Dynamic Forces

W/Mo

the ettin drops must have changed, ive been on 20+ runs with only 2 gold drops, both being a major and only 1 unIDed drop every 1-2 runs.

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy_the_beard
the ettin drops must have changed, ive been on 20+ runs with only 2 gold drops, both being a major and only 1 unIDed drop every 1-2 runs. I would say you had a bad run yes, but not everyone has such luck. Probably bad luck and not a nerf.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

I think i've found just about every rune you can unlock here except for a dang Sup Absorb... Which is the one I want.

*sigh* =)

Darkend Divinity

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hattiesburg, MS

Twisted Souls of Death - Leader

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amsterdam
Awesome, I really appreciate this, I have some supa fine axes and usually am an axe warrior, but for some reason I have always gone sword on these runs and had often wondered about using an axe build, this has been very helpful and I appreciate the addition to the thread. Lets keep this baby goin. Thanks again. I cam across this build on Guru I think.. but it has proven to be very veyr effective for me on anything that can not strip enchantments. Since your intersted in a possible axe build consider this:

Skills
Cyclone Axe | Bonetti’s Defense | Vigorous Spirit | Healing Breeze | Healing Hands | Live Vicariously | Strength of Honour | Balthazar’s Spirit

Attribute Allocation
Healing Prayers: 9
Smiting Prayers: 8
Axe Mastery: 11
Strength: Depends on requirements of shield
Tactics: Depends on requirements of Shield

Best Creatures to Farm with this build
Minotaurs (Elona Reach), Desert Griffons (Prophet’s Path – West Exit of Augury Rock), Mountain Troll (Talus Shoot – North Exit of Droknar’s Forge)

How the build Works
Once you spawn to an area cast Balthazar’s Spirit on yourself.
Run to where the monsters are, along the way cast Strength of Honour on yourself once you energy is full or near full.
Once in battle cast Healing Hands on yourself followed by Live Vicariously and Vigorous Spirit
Use Cyclone axe immediately followed by Bonetti’s Defense. Repeat this until the monsters are dead.
Once you are confident of being able to stay alive the elite can be changed to kill monsters faster.
Tips:
·Cycle through targets with your regular attacks to try and keep them all at the same health so they all die at the same time.
·Try to keep healing hands charged. It is basically the back up skill to avoid deaths. Mountain Trolls and Rockshot Devours (you run into them when fighting griffons) may disable your cyclone axe for a short period of time which prevents your healing and massive adrenaline gain. If cyclone axe gets disabled use Healing Breeze, Healing Hands, and Bonetti’s Defense to keep you alive until cyclone axe is recharged.
·Cycle the areas you run to try and prevent dry drops from over farming an area.

PHoenix is cool

PHoenix is cool

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

NZ

Ashes of The Phoenix

W/Mo

The product of 2 of my ettin runs. With these runs i never have to go to town till im full of items. Or most often till im bored of them.

CompactWires

CompactWires

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

Pinoy Alliance

Mo/Me

nice nice. I think i'll play my war now... )

CompactWires

CompactWires

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

Pinoy Alliance

Mo/Me

oohh btw....hey amster, any ideas what builds should I use as a W/R?? thanks

PHoenix is cool

PHoenix is cool

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

NZ

Ashes of The Phoenix

W/Mo

Its pretty easy compact. With a ranger i would use that troll spell lol what ever its called- health regen ( i dont use rangers ). And use weapon attacks from what ever weapon you use (i find sword is best)
Sword.. (1)final thrust (2) Gash (3) another damaging attack (4) Healing Sig (5) flurry maby (6) A attack that stops them using healing signet (since they use that alot) (7) ranger healy thingy (8) sprint
Not sure about axe lol

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

Or use traps.

PHoenix is cool

PHoenix is cool

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

NZ

Ashes of The Phoenix

W/Mo

I thought warrior has less energy than rangers..

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by CompactWires
oohh btw....hey amster, any ideas what builds should I use as a W/R?? thanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murder In China
Or use traps. W/R using traps is not a good idea. Too slow, and probably better to go pure warrior in that case.

Might consider Apply Poison, Tiger's Fury and/or Troll Unguent

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by PHoenix is cool
Its pretty easy compact. With a ranger i would use that troll spell lol what ever its called- health regen ( i dont use rangers ). And use weapon attacks from what ever weapon you use (i find sword is best)
Sword.. (1)final thrust (2) Gash (3) another damaging attack (4) Healing Sig (5) flurry maby (6) A attack that stops them using healing signet (since they use that alot) (7) ranger healy thingy (8) sprint
Not sure about axe lol Is he talking about a Primary or Secondary Ranger?

If Primary, then go Traps.

If Secondary, then use Tiger's Fury instead of Flurry.

bam23

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Do you think an R/W could do it with evasive stances and melee weapons instead of traps?

If not, how would a trapper do it? I'm very bad at trapping :P

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

Evasive stance would do squat against Irresistible blow (Bypasses Evasive Stances).

Either use a heavy Degen build with bleeding and poison and some form of interrupt on their healing signet or stacking traps in one area then lure the Ettins on the tainted ground.

Bloodied Blade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

You could just degen trap them (flame traps + barbed traps = 11 degen...I know the max is 10).

For W/R (I just made one that uses an axe) I was thinking:

Eviscerate {e}
Penetrating Blow
Executioner's Strike
Distracting Blow
Troll Unguent
Storm Chaser or Sprint
Healing Signet
Tiger's Fury

It would need wilderness survival points, so likely something like:

12 axe
8 tactics
8 beast mastery
8 wilderness survival

Tactics is lower just because I have two sources of healing.

Haggard

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

I farm them with Ragemending (or a version of it I invented after hearing a very vague description of RM)

Healing - 8
Strength - 11+1
Axe - 11+1+3

Battle Rage [E]
Penetrating Blow
Dismember
Executioners Strike
Axe Twist
Disrupting Chop
Mending
Live Vicariously

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haggard
I farm them with Ragemending (or a version of it I invented after hearing a very vague description of RM)

Healing - 8
Strength - 11+1
Axe - 11+1+3

Battle Rage [E]
Penetrating Blow
Dismember
Executioners Strike
Axe Twist
Disrupting Chop
Mending
Live Vicariously Nice, if an axe is your cup of tea. In chapter 2 thankfully there will be more adrenaline based axe attacks.

For now though, a sword build is slightly faster, in my opinion:
Sprint
Battle Rage {E}
Sever
Gash
Galrath
Final Thrust
Live Vicariously
Mending

LV + mending is overkill, and I only use LV when up against scales (to cancel our price of failure) or if I'm fighting a large group (6+).

Sprint reallly helps out since it speeds up the run and allows you to get past scales w/o relying on the speed boost from Battle Rage. Also there are no more sword adrenaline based skills to use Chapter 2 will bring us more however

EDIT: Oh and as for attributes:
Swordsmanship: 16
Healing Prayers: 8
Rest in Strength with a +1 rune

Use a Fiery Sword Hilt and a 15% damage while enchanted sword and you can hit up to 188 with Final Thrust.

Just Another Dude

Just Another Dude

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

I use sword, with these:

Healing Sig
Doylak
Sprint
Gash
Galrath Slash
Power Attack
Watch Yourself
Sever Artery

Just pretty much keep doylak and and watch running, if you drop below 100, heal sig it, and youll be fine, otherwise, no problem taking them out... if their healing gets annoying, just replace sprint with Salvage Slash to interrupt it... even without interrupt tho, its not hard to take them out at all. Take on 3 or 4 at a time easily..

12 Swordsmanship
12 Strength
11 Tactics

Naftul Zvi

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

I use w/me for these, i usually dont take any dmg from any thing with the +92 armor, but alittle damage from irresistable blow:
11 strength
13 sword
12 tactics
5 inspiration

physical resistance
100 blades
watch yourself
galrath
final thrust
dolyak
heal sig
sprint

I use an icy dragon sword and -2 in stance +45hp in stance sheild

Undead Preacher

Undead Preacher

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Scribes of Cantha (USoC)

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by PHoenix is cool
The product of 2 of my ettin runs. With these runs i never have to go to town till im full of items. Or most often till im bored of them.
only problem is those gold will most likely be majors when ID'ed or worthless superiors.... Unless i'm just plain unlucky, I have spent ridiclous hours rune farming and for the time i've put in the profit seems very very small.... The only Superior vigors I've gotten were from dwarves in the shiverpeaks and I still haven't gotten any Sup. Absorption.... I'm going to try the Titan farming.. maybe i'll have some luck there!

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

N/

a guildie founded a sup abs, sup vigor, and sup smitting. he was just farming for half an hour :|

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undead Preacher
only problem is those gold will most likely be majors when ID'ed or worthless superiors.... Unless i'm just plain unlucky, I have spent ridiclous hours rune farming and for the time i've put in the profit seems very very small.... The only Superior vigors I've gotten were from dwarves in the shiverpeaks and I still haven't gotten any Sup. Absorption.... I'm going to try the Titan farming.. maybe i'll have some luck there! I've had 3 sup absorbtions (out of 4 total that I've found) from ettins, and about 15 sup vigors and countless sup monk runes.

I find the runs get better the more I farm them, sort of like an anti-anti-farm.

B Ephekt

B Ephekt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Team Crystalline [TC]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by PHoenix is cool
The product of 2 of my ettin runs. With these runs i never have to go to town till im full of items. Or most often till im bored of them.
You actually pick up the white pauldrons?

Jyc

Jyc

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Redemption of the Phoenix

W/Mo

i'm gona take a wild guess that this is nerfed, i havent gotten one ettin pouldron in 2 runs...