NEWS FLASH! Monks on strike at Thunderhead Keep

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

Yeah, if you want to see a bunch of whiny children go to THK D1, or TOA or Drok's.

I'm sure this "strike" would be a lot better if so many of the monks attending weren't so childish.

And I have yet to see a strong argument.

Medion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands

What are they striking (is that a word?) for actually?

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

You should've seen the uproar in ToA Dit 1.

They were spamming for monk rights--and then everyone sees Japan takes a victory in the HoH.

And it's all--

WTF JAPAN?

JAPAN?

WOW JAPAN

WTF!?!!?

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

MONKS ON STRIKE! MONKS ON STRIKE! WE WILL GIVE NO HEALING SPIKE!


...lol

Lord Oranos

Lord Oranos

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fort Aspenwood

Actualy the monks Ive seen have a point, Ive seen many flamers today, most of them coming in thinking they can crush this "little" strike.

To tell the truth its not just the monks, everyones acting childish... people flaming monks, monks defending with valid statements...no responce from the other side.

Ive had my fun from it, but so many damn flamers now.

Jericho Of Druss

Jericho Of Druss

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Spirits Of Water (Sow)

I was on my monk at the time (obviously)
i joined the strike as i agree with why it was happening
i then went on to join a all monk team to complete THK
we succeeded!! we OWNED that mission
here are the name of the monks that participated in the first 8 monk THK team:

Rosalina Of Salatia
I Lady Trouble I
Liang Yu Jin
Khazza Hulimar (me!)
Malak Stormsinger
Rheas Oranos
Nightshadow Dragon
Protect My Wolves

Cant remember if this was actually the ORDER it went, but all these ppl took place in the first 8/8 monk team (first since the strike anyways..there maybe have been others in the past, but none like this!!)

Srtike was because, ppl rely on monks TOO much, yeah we do heal, but cant keep it up forever. We get no waits for regen alot of the time, or the tanks rush in thinking we will keep them alive. This is not a way to play. More patience is needed, please! u complain about monks that suck, well it is actually urself. -----NOT directed to EVERYONE, only mindless hero wannabes.

This is probably thee best team ive been a part of.

Aejorii

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

SF, CA

W/

Alas! The Monks Union is in full swing! No more shall we be oppressed by mindless warriors, from now on WE make the demands!

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Studio Ghibli
You should've seen the uproar in ToA Dit 1.

They were spamming for monk rights--and then everyone sees Japan takes a victory in the HoH.

And it's all--

WTF JAPAN?

JAPAN?

WOW JAPAN

WTF!?!!?
/fistshake

cursed japanese and their superior efficiency and intelligence!

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aejorii
Alas! The Monks Union is in full swing! No more shall we be oppressed by mindless warriors, from now on WE make the demands!
/sigh

Star Asia

Star Asia

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

New York, NY

E/

I am in District 2 right now, because District 1 is full, and yes, the monks are gathering here too, AND are striking --- they are sync dancing, and bashing warriors like no tommorrow.

Pretty interesting stuff-never seen anything like this before in a game.

Having played a monk, I know where they are coming from, but thats my opinion, and I am not here to force others opinions.

I will stick around there for a bit to see how it plays out.

Aejorii

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

SF, CA

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol_Vie
/sigh
You know all of this is a joke, right? eh?eh? :P

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rask Finn
I, as a mesmer, went on strike as well.




nobody cared.
ROTFLMAO

Stolen Souls

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

lol, entertaining.

Every other class should go on strike there, too.

Falcon213

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

I've beaten every mission without human monks at some point in time.. just shows how useless this strike is.

Anyway I'm sitting in the back playing the violin.

Big Fiz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Falcon try FoW, UW and HoH with henchies. Let me know how you make out.

Falcon213

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Fiz
Falcon try FoW, UW and HoH with henchies. Let me know how you make out.
Those aren't missions.. and in the off-chance that I want to do a PUG for HA, there's always tons of monks, not the same as PvE.

jtchans

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/

Crazy down here

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

I'm sorry, but I have yet to see any monks who re really taking this seriously. There seem to be a lot of people seriously pissed off at the strike tho, LoL!!

Lord Oranos

Lord Oranos

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fort Aspenwood

Yeah, it is kinda sad... I enjoyed my time there though but its getting abit old, new flamers replace the old ones, same with monks.

But Im glad some arent taking it seriously.

jgortner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Saints of Sin

W/Mo

I'll be on later tonight if you guys wana do an ALL MONK run. We can go 7/8 and show people we're all monk =]

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

Pretty much most quests can be down by henchies anyway the only problem is time, with regualr human monks it goes faster but still whats the gonna get to? Respect sure....

Medion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands

hm... the monks at Augury don't seem to support this strike...

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

W/

Basically it has to do with warriors aggroing too many groups.

Simple solution: Do not accept wammos into your group.

Effendi Westland

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

More monk strikage in America realm!!

you guys have all my support.

a concerned european player who wants favor in europe even more.

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

One warrior whispered me and asked what I meant by DPS tank--

And I explained to him that, technically, a warrior can do more damage than any other class over an extended period of time--because of, well, damage, as well as adrenaline. However, I then pointed out fights don't necessarily last that long--and, even then, because of the high warrior armor rating, warriors should leave damage to say, necros or ellies or, hell, even smite monks, and instead should themselves fall back to stance and defense for the best tanking.

His reply?

"But warriors have the highest damage."

"I said that."

"And they have the best armor."

"I said that too."

"SO STFU M8"

Brilliant conversationalist.

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

Athena Mimmay is writing poetry on the strike.

4runner

4runner

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cali!!!

cdxx/the420th.com

Mo/N

^^^^^ a very good example of why MOnks are MAd!!

But its funny none the less!!!!

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

W/

A warrior should NEVER go as pure defence. All a warrior should ever take is dolyak sig and watch yourself, if the monks can't keep you alive still then you need to aggro smaller groups, or your monk needs to look at his skillbar. (Most of the time it is too much aggro).

Vanquisher

Site Contributor

Join Date: Mar 2005

Herts, UK

One Hitter Quitters [QQ]

Shrug. I just got a party up to the Keep, doing it with Mhenlo. We had 2 drops before the siege started, and then I get blamed because I don't carry a hard res on my bar when 2 of the 4 Warriors in my party ran off and got killed by Mursaat way outside the Gates. I find it funny how there are people flaming each other over it, but it is annoying. If someone devotes their time to help you run through a mission you can't beat, flaming them is not the way forward.

That being said, the strike is hilarious and I'll endorse it just to see more people get annoyed. A stupid thing to do, though - "Oh no, I just got insulted over the internet!"

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Medion
hm... the monks at Augury don't seem to support this strike...
LMAO!

Yea, the monks there tend to be a bit on the quiet side...I wonder why, LoL!!

beanerman_99

beanerman_99

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the clouds

[Sage]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Studio Ghibli
One warrior whispered me and asked what I meant by DPS tank--

And I explained to him that, technically, a warrior can do more damage than any other class over an extended period of time--because of, well, damage, as well as adrenaline. However, I then pointed out fights don't necessarily last that long--and, even then, because of the high warrior armor rating, warriors should leave damage to say, necros or ellies or, hell, even smite monks, and instead should themselves fall back to stance and defense for the best tanking.

His reply?

"But warriors have the highest damage."

"I said that."

"And they have the best armor."

"I said that too."

"SO STFU M8"

Brilliant conversationalist.
I understand your frustration. But when I played my warrior I wanted to fight! not just stand there and tank for everyone else. This may not make sense to you, but the reason I chose a warrior character was to go toe to toe with the monsters, sword/axe/hammer swinging and inflicting great pain. I did not pick a warrior to take all the damage for the entire team while standing still in a stance. What's the use of all those damage skills if a warrior is just supposed to stand there and take it for the team? Now, I am not stupid and realize that aggroing all the monsters=certain death. I know a lot of people, not just warriors, who just plain don't know to watch aggro. Its very frustrating, but again, it is NOT just warriors that aggro.

anyways, good luck striking or whatever monks. I for one appreciate good monking and will tell them when they do good. But I am not about to start paying monks just to come do missions!

LouAl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

I think the THK stress has been building for a while now. I tried to beat it with my ele the last few nights and there we VERY few monks in the area. I also started the mission 6 or 7 times one night only to have the monks drop out after a few minutes (with no reason - no one was pulling too much aggro, no one was taking excessive damage, and most of the time they dropped out before the bridge...)

Anyway I made my ele into an armor tank so that I could just do it with the henchies. It was all going well this morning (must have just missed the start of the monk strike) but I was going to be late for work and I had to close it halfway through the seige.

More power to the monks, but I am going to use scab labor to beat the mission tonight...

Edit: forgot to say that I am putting my mesmer on stike also. Rask, that almost made me cry it was so funny/sad.

Just Another Dude

Just Another Dude

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Lol this is funny... they are nuts... good place to get a laugh or two

William Sunrider

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Brotherhood of Holy Light

R/Mo

..whats next.. a ranger strike for their exploitation of winter?

Orbberius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

I repeat again: you don't need any monks but Lina and Alesia for this mission. Hopefully people will realize this. I'm pretty sure I can hench any mission in the game, fairly easily.

And PvE monks have it so damn easy. PvP enemies don't wait for you to regen. PvP monks rarely get batteries as crutches for actual skill either.

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Medion
hm... the monks at Augury don't seem to support this strike...
Rofl.

As for a ranger strike... well no it's not happening. I tried, but to no avail.

Lowly Peasant

Lowly Peasant

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

I'm torn since I have every character... But the monk strike is just such a hoot!

The Fox

The Fox

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

hehehe... monk's striking because they aren't getting respect Don't they know they have the power to rule the group with an iron fist!

First guy that says anything negative goes straight to the bottom of my priority healing list. Repeat offense = someone elses responsiblity to heal the SOB.

Mellia Darkstar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Empire Of the Underworld

E/Mo

The game is made so that one profession rely on another. This so called strike is childish, disrespectful and giving the game a bad name. Not to forget the monk profession itself. All classes are not giving the respect they deserve whether you are a monk, a warrior or elementalist. What saddens me the most is to see all this kids being so unhelpful, disrespectful and selfish. Especially when I remember how many times i've gotten a AFK monk, ragequitter monk, a monk who just dont do anything or my favorite: Yes i'm a healer; in mission : No i'm a smitter. Great job you guys you all own gw! I'll rely on my guild monks, friends and henchmen while you go and try to get an all smite group for hells precipice!

LordDeArnise

LordDeArnise

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

California, USA

The Elite Knights of Tarnia [PwnD]

The best solution to this problem is to have the Monks lead the group, rather than having them be put on the bottom of the group members list. Then you can have those Monks do a background check on the Warriors then invite the good ones.

This isn't the first time I've heard of Monks go on strike. Remember when they nerfed those spells that made Solo Monks so godlike in UW?

As much as the protest seems childish from the posted screenshots, I think it would be better if they said something like..."NO MORE WARRIOR N00BS! WE MONKS WILL NOT JOIN ANY GROUPS WHOSE WARRIORS ACT LIKE LEEROY JENKINS! KK THX BYE"

Still, Monks deserve alot more respect than what players give them these days. Those who play Monks regularly are those who have great reflexes, great coordination, and trust on good teammates and/or guildies to keep them alive. Sadly, they're also the ones scapegoated as excuses for warrior players to put the blame on. Yeah, they're the ones, along with rangers, spearheading an assault; but at the same time, it should be the monks telling them when to do that, and when to just stop and let the casters recharge. Maybe they should demand that Warriors grow some maturity and patience, or else they will never join such a group. Monks will always be in high demand with low supply, but some players need to show more maturity, more flexibility, and work with other group builds where there are two monks, or one monk (i.e. the Tombs Barrage/Pet teams), or just the henchies. I used to play a Healer Monk during the early days of GW's global release, and it was so stressful to play one because of all the inexperienced players who just run in, aggro everything and wipe the whole party out.

Respect your Monks, people, or there will hardly be any of them left for your PUG's. Spread the word in-game

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fox
hehehe... monk's striking because they aren't getting respect Don't they know they have the power to rule the group with an iron fist!

First guy that says anything negative goes straight to the bottom of my priority healing list. Repeat offense = someone elses responsiblity to heal the SOB.
Good idea. Or how about not ressing them when they die. Just let them rot until they decide to just leave in total shame.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellia Darkstar
The game is made so that one profession rely on another. This so called strike is childish, disrespectful and giving the game a bad name. Not to forget the monk profession itself. All classes are not giving the respect they deserve whether you are a monk, a warrior or elementalist. What saddens me the most is to see all this kids being so unhelpful, disrespectful and selfish. Especially when I remember how many times i've gotten a AFK monk, ragequitter monk, a monk who just dont do anything or my favorite: Yes i'm a healer; in mission : No i'm a smitter. Great job you guys you all own gw! I'll rely on my guild monks, friends and henchmen while you go and try to get an all smite group for hells precipice!
I've seen plenty of rage-quitter monks in SF and Tombs, and Monks who don't tell the party that they're Smiters until in the mission.

Monks and Mesmers get the least amount of respect because some players are unwilling to try out groups with a Mesmer in it, or because they get in a mad fit of rage when they get nailed like hell and they find that the monks did not heal them despite a warning about them with low energy, or they're afk, or what not.

If this keeps up, then this will likely be the next line you'll get from a Monk...

"Healer LFG for a high-end mission...GUILDIES AND FRIENDS ONLY!!! That's what you n00bs get for disrespecting us Monks!!! Good riddance, suckers!!!"