NEWS FLASH! Monks on strike at Thunderhead Keep
Studio Ghibli
So I've been informed, the strike was originally started because a certain someone started dancing with a monk who regularly goes afk in THK. This someone insulted a warrior aaannnddd..
Mellia Darkstar
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Originally Posted by LordDeArnise
The best solution to this problem is to have the Monks lead the group, rather than having them be put on the bottom of the group members list. Then you can have those Monks do a background check on the Warriors then invite the good ones.
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Originally Posted by LordDeArnise
Respect your Monks, people, or there will hardly be any of them left for your PUG's. Spread the word in-game
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Originally Posted by Studio Ghibli
So I've been informed, the strike was originally started because a certain someone started dancing with a monk who regularly goes afk in THK. This someone insulted a warrior aaannnddd..
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Lazarus
I have to say being on strike is the most fun I have ever had in this game. It's like a grand event and it's completely grass roots.
If you are upset over the strike that is your loss. As many people have said, you can use henchies. Also, it is possible to play without monks. Period. If you can figure that one out then I will monk for you any day.
Laz
If you are upset over the strike that is your loss. As many people have said, you can use henchies. Also, it is possible to play without monks. Period. If you can figure that one out then I will monk for you any day.
Laz
LouAl
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Originally Posted by The Fox
First guy that says anything negative goes straight to the bottom of my priority healing list. Repeat offense = someone elses responsiblity to heal the SOB.
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that is exactly what I do. Usually after that wammo/necro tank notices he is getting no heals he starts saying "I am following Mylo Aires" (my monk) and if he is real nice and doesn't take too much aggro, I will put him back on my 'ok to heal list.'
(I used the male pronoun because it seems that the males toons are worse at this...don't know why)
Mellia Darkstar
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Originally Posted by LouAl
ROFL
that is exactly what I do. Usually after that wammo/necro tank notices he is getting no heals he starts saying "I am following Mylo Aires" (my monk) and if he is real nice and doesn't take too much aggro, I will put him back on my 'ok to heal list.' (I used the male pronoun because it seems that the males toons are worse at this...don't know why) |
frickett
I am a new player, and not very good, but i want to be healed too. Is that too much to ask?
Burakus Lightwing
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Originally Posted by Orbberius
Human monks are completely unnecessary in Thunderhead Keep.
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True, I did it last week with a N/mo and myself as a W/Mo. Took henchies..no prob. Henchies did a great job.
What are they striking against/for?
LouAl
I am not asking for respect (maybe cuz I have a mesmer and I am used to getting NONE), but it would be nice if people didn't aggro the entire map of monsters.
Stone StormChaser Jackal
MONK FOR HIRE!
10 ECTOS TO HELP YOUR GROUP DO THUNDERHEAD KEEP.
Pm me in game.
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10 ECTOS TO HELP YOUR GROUP DO THUNDERHEAD KEEP.
Pm me in game.
lol
IGN: delicate beauty
Medion
What I don't get:
You guys are upset about people agroing the whole map, but what do you think of other professions?
Do you think we like it when a noob agroes the whole map and the team dies? Do you think we like it when we are nearly done with a mission/quest/farm-run, to die and have to restart?
You guys are upset about people agroing the whole map, but what do you think of other professions?
Do you think we like it when a noob agroes the whole map and the team dies? Do you think we like it when we are nearly done with a mission/quest/farm-run, to die and have to restart?
The Fox
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Originally Posted by Mellia Darkstar
omg and u guys are askin respect?!
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j/k My point was that players who burn through a monks energy by playing stupidly will pull the rest of the group down if they are allowed to continue. For this reason they get the chance to straighten up or kiss the dirt. If your new, don't worry. Most monks are good at giving commands.
Mellia Darkstar
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Originally Posted by LouAl
I am not asking for respect (maybe cuz I have a mesmer and I am used to getting NONE), but it would be nice if people didn't aggro the entire map of monsters.
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You know what would also be nice, monk who'd stop bitching all the time, warrior who'd stop running, players who'd stop afking, no more rage quitters. Yes alot of things would be nice. Maybe we should strike about everything to make this game better. Good idea! Let's all strike and remind why this game is soooo much better then any other games out there!
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Originally Posted by The Fox
There is not need to ask for respect when one can demand it.
j/k My point was that players who burn through a monks energy by playing stupidly do not deserve to pull the rest of the team down by draining a monks energy. For this reason they get the chance to straighten up or kiss the dirt. |
Beat_Go_Stick
Oh man....this is the best thing I've seen in this game so far 
I'll see y'all when I get off work
I'll see y'all when I get off work
Tyrent Frath
haha, do what my monk did...do thk/ascencion/ring of fire with guildies...duh
Serafita Kayin
Respect.
Nobody gets it cause nobody gives it.
I went to UW last night. Paid for the group. Had to, cause I'm the ranger. Trapper, BTW. Full WS and high expertise, can solo trap enough to lay waste to a group of Aatxes. But I'm not a solo player, I enjoy camaraderie in group and besides, I need backup (rangers, the do anything class, do need help sometimes) so I was carrying other people. I ended up getting through 4 groups of mobs because our warriors were drawing ALL the aatxes to the traps meant for one group.
The nuker refused to nuke, the mesmer tripped over their skill bar (backfiring an aatxe?) and the poor poor monk was stuck with trying to manage all that.
But, NOBODY listened to the directions I was calling, EVERYONE ran in eight different directions, and without my spike build I couldn't drop them fast enough for us to survive.
If people (monks, rangers, whatever) want respect, they have to earn it. I wanted to throw rocks at everyone in that group.
Besides, you want an underappreciated group, take rangers. We can replace wa/mos any day (yes, I can out-dps a hammer warrior.), know all about energy conservation and aggro control, can interrupt, spike, trap, prevent resurrection (can a monk do that?), pull, call and generally be a team unto ourselves (seen it with 8 man trapper teams). Yet we're called ineffective and stupid because a few of us wanna be rambo.
We have been consistently denied groups since the release, yet we still continue to play. Most of us don't even say anything about not being able to find a group, we call guildies/take henches cause we KNOW unless it's something special nobody wants us.
Maybe we should strike.
Nobody gets it cause nobody gives it.
I went to UW last night. Paid for the group. Had to, cause I'm the ranger. Trapper, BTW. Full WS and high expertise, can solo trap enough to lay waste to a group of Aatxes. But I'm not a solo player, I enjoy camaraderie in group and besides, I need backup (rangers, the do anything class, do need help sometimes) so I was carrying other people. I ended up getting through 4 groups of mobs because our warriors were drawing ALL the aatxes to the traps meant for one group.
The nuker refused to nuke, the mesmer tripped over their skill bar (backfiring an aatxe?) and the poor poor monk was stuck with trying to manage all that.
But, NOBODY listened to the directions I was calling, EVERYONE ran in eight different directions, and without my spike build I couldn't drop them fast enough for us to survive.
If people (monks, rangers, whatever) want respect, they have to earn it. I wanted to throw rocks at everyone in that group.
Besides, you want an underappreciated group, take rangers. We can replace wa/mos any day (yes, I can out-dps a hammer warrior.), know all about energy conservation and aggro control, can interrupt, spike, trap, prevent resurrection (can a monk do that?), pull, call and generally be a team unto ourselves (seen it with 8 man trapper teams). Yet we're called ineffective and stupid because a few of us wanna be rambo.
We have been consistently denied groups since the release, yet we still continue to play. Most of us don't even say anything about not being able to find a group, we call guildies/take henches cause we KNOW unless it's something special nobody wants us.
Maybe we should strike.
seut
my mesmer got kicked from groups twice, because the 2monks wanted a battery necro...
Medion
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Respect. Nobody gets it cause nobody gives it. I went to UW last night. Paid for the group. Had to, cause I'm the ranger. Trapper, BTW. Full WS and high expertise, can solo trap enough to lay waste to a group of Aatxes. But I'm not a solo player, I enjoy camaraderie in group and besides, I need backup (rangers, the do anything class, do need help sometimes) so I was carrying other people. I ended up getting through 4 groups of mobs because our warriors were drawing ALL the aatxes to the traps meant for one group. The nuker refused to nuke, the mesmer tripped over their skill bar (backfiring an aatxe?) and the poor poor monk was stuck with trying to manage all that. But, NOBODY listened to the directions I was calling, EVERYONE ran in eight different directions, and without my spike build I couldn't drop them fast enough for us to survive. If people (monks, rangers, whatever) want respect, they have to earn it. I wanted to throw rocks at everyone in that group. Besides, you want an underappreciated group, take rangers. We can replace wa/mos any day (yes, I can out-dps a hammer warrior.), know all about energy conservation and aggro control, can interrupt, spike, trap, prevent resurrection (can a monk do that?), pull, call and generally be a team unto ourselves (seen it with 8 man trapper teams). Yet we're called ineffective and stupid because a few of us wanna be rambo. We have been consistently denied groups since the release, yet we still continue to play. Most of us don't even say anything about not being able to find a group, we call guildies/take henches cause we KNOW unless it's something special nobody wants us. Maybe we should strike. |
couldn't have said it better, and about the fact that 'we' don't go with groups unless guildies/other rangers is true, at least in my case.
MSecorsky
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Originally Posted by Medion
Quoted for truth,
couldn't have said it better, and about the fact that 'we' don't go with groups unless guildies/other rangers is true, at least in my case. |
Lord Iowerth
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Originally Posted by frickett
I am a new player, and not very good, but i want to be healed too. Is that too much to ask?
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1) Not getting too far away from him/her
2) Not aggroing the whole map
3) Stopping to rest when they run low on energy
Where you are then presented with a choice: you can either listen to the advice, follow it, and then be successful ... or ... you can be a jerk and say "STFU, NOOB, I CAN TAKE TEH WHOLE CHARR ARMEE AT ONCE!!!oneshiftone!!111!!" and then wonder why the monk stops healing you. The choice, for most people, is an easy one
Theus
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Originally Posted by Aejorii
Alas! The Monks Union is in full swing! No more shall we be oppressed by mindless warriors, from now on WE make the demands!
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As we play, you dwindle your time away spamming messages in an outpost.
Great Job.
The Fox
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Originally Posted by Mellia Darkstar
Do like other monks ive seen, ask for battery when in an all pick up group...
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antialias02
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Originally Posted by The Fox
There is not need to ask for respect when one can demand it.
j/k My point was that players who burn through a monks energy by playing stupidly will pull the rest of the group down if they are allowed to continue. For this reason they get the chance to straighten up or kiss the dirt. If your new, don't worry. Most monks are good at giving commands. |
Also, a ranger strike is the silliest thing I've ever heard of. Besides a monk strike. I'm so glad I have enough guildmates and friends to the point where a pickup group never has to be an option. Plus, it's not that hard to do the game with hench if you know how to play.
GG strike, I guess.
Mellia Darkstar
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Originally Posted by The Fox
My favorite class is a necro and I refuse to degrade one into being a energy cell, and I prefer to let people play with whatever they have the most experience. After all a good monk really can save even the agro happy players, but it might take a lot of coaching.
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I love necro, i love battery and i like helping out ppl. If someone ask me to get my necro i will gladly do it. But i've been told many time to do Minion master or ss necro to enter a group. A good monk, if they can save themselv from agro, why are they striking? or is it just the bad monk striking?
T1Cybernetic
Mhenlo and Lina FTW!
I use my monk for occational backup healing /protecting now because i absolutely
hate healing and/or protecting! I totaly suck at it or so i feel anyhow,...
Nowerdays it's just a farmer and storage for my other characters and account.
Thunderhead can be beaten easily with henchmen, I do it alot for practice runs,
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I use my monk for occational backup healing /protecting now because i absolutely
hate healing and/or protecting! I totaly suck at it or so i feel anyhow,
...Nowerdays it's just a farmer and storage for my other characters and account.
Thunderhead can be beaten easily with henchmen, I do it alot for practice runs,
The Fox
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Originally Posted by antialias02
If you're letting silly wars burn through your energy, you're not playing an effective, efficient monk. And THAT is the truth.
GG strike, I guess. |
Mellia Darkstar
This strike is giving all the other monks a bad name. If you have to srike to get respect then you must be one hell of a bad monk. I've given respect to those who were great guess they didn't bother with that lol
Lina and mhenlo FTW!!!
Lina and mhenlo FTW!!!
m0gden
Well that is a little disappointing. While it is true that many times I feel like I'm working for someone in the group rather than with them I do not think striking is worth it. I usually go through FoW with PUG's as a healing monk because it is really easy to get picked up and be in. I usually say "Healing Monk LFG FoW" and will have three or four people asking for my help. I am by no means a great monk though I can keep my party alive for most of the fights unless something goes horribly wrong.
My only problems playing with a monk:
- Lack of respect from most players. I'm sure many classes feel this way as well and I do show pity for the Rangers of the world who are always left out.
- If all else fails the monks are usually blamed for incompetent healing. It doesn't happen all the time but it does seem to happen often enough to warrant attention.
Really this doesn't have to do with being a monk so much as playing with a large group of ungrateful and ignorant players. I wouldn't mind playing with a more open minded and friendly guild but I've never had one.
My only problems playing with a monk:
- Lack of respect from most players. I'm sure many classes feel this way as well and I do show pity for the Rangers of the world who are always left out.
- If all else fails the monks are usually blamed for incompetent healing. It doesn't happen all the time but it does seem to happen often enough to warrant attention.
Really this doesn't have to do with being a monk so much as playing with a large group of ungrateful and ignorant players. I wouldn't mind playing with a more open minded and friendly guild but I've never had one.
antialias02
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Originally Posted by The Fox
I'm not on stike, and I never mentioned a specific class, and I've henched THK and Hell Precipice, so I could care less... no more comments for me.
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Lazarus
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Originally Posted by Mellia Darkstar
This strike is giving all the other monks a bad name...
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This a game man. We are having fun. It's what games are for. If having fun gives me a bad name then I am all for it.
Laz
Cottage Pie
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Originally Posted by angshuman
I could make out two demands:
- People should show them more respect - Warriors shouldn't frenzy themselves to death |
PS, i've clocked 1200 hours using warrior primary...
Mellia Darkstar
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
This a game man. We are having fun. It's what games are for. If having fun gives me a bad name then I am all for it.
Laz |
Great argument btw.. really no contradiction at all
pegasux
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Originally Posted by Effendi Westland
More monk strikage in America realm!!
you guys have all my support. a concerned european player who wants favor in europe even more. |
lol...wait that's not funny at all! ARGH!
seut
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Originally Posted by Mellia Darkstar
Do like other monks ive seen, ask for battery when in an all pick up group...
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My SS necro nearly got kicked by a monk, because i didn't want to bring BiP. Brainless people are in every profession..
Mellia Darkstar
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Originally Posted by seut
When i play my monk and see the other monk demanding a battery, i get a very bad feeling. Most of those monks tend to spam heal other & heal party. Wells, wards and hex removing mesmers are much better to help the group.
My SS necro nearly got kicked by a monk, because i didn't want to bring BiP. Brainless people are in every profession.. |
Sinjin
Good, I'm glad monks are striking. I'm down for some 8/8 all monk group THK tonight.
seut
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
This a game man. We are having fun. It's what games are for. If having fun gives me a bad name then I am all for it.
Laz |
Mellia Darkstar
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Originally Posted by Sinjin
Good, I'm glad monks are striking. I'm down for some 8/8 all monk group THK tonight.
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Mellia Darkstar
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Originally Posted by seut
I actually tried to bring a pug through thk an hour ago. A Pug with 2wars, 1mesmer, 2rangers, 1 ele and us 2 monks. The other monk grabbed the king and rushed into the aggro, wrote 'u lusers stink' and left. Sabotaging others is fun?
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pegasux
You know most of the monks that I pug with are decent to good, and i do give props for good healing but the bad and decent ones can be replaced with lina, alesia, or mehlo. I'd rather take my chances with the henchies cause i know what I am going to get...plus i don't have to worry about aggro monkies complaining about not getting healed fast enough. As for the batteries it is nice to have one for a monk in difficult battles where they have to spam heals. Ele's definately don't need them cause they got dual attunements anyways...if an ele needs one then they are playing the game wrong.
thunderpower
Lol... it seems that there was an equal amount of monks and other professions.
I wonder if any had the courage to spam the main channel with "lvl 7 frezny wa/e lfg 7 monks for miss/bonus"
I wonder if any had the courage to spam the main channel with "lvl 7 frezny wa/e lfg 7 monks for miss/bonus"