NEWS FLASH! Monks on strike at Thunderhead Keep

Mellia Darkstar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Empire Of the Underworld

E/Mo

Stuff like this happens all the time on the america server... Is it likethat in european server too.. Cuz this seems ridiculous. Instead of fighting to keep favor for our country we strike and not let others play.
I'm canadian so i dont care which server im at, i always get ppl puttin me down cuz im canadian.

thunderpower

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Europe

KiSS

Quote:
Originally Posted by pegasux
You know most of the monks that I pug with are decent to good, and i do give props for good healing but the bad and decent ones can be replaced with lina, alesia, or mehlo. I'd rather take my chances with the henchies cause i know what I am going to get...plus i don't have to worry about aggro monkies complaining about not getting healed fast enough. As for the batteries it is nice to have one for a monk in difficult battles where they have to spam heals. Ele's definately don't need them cause they got dual attunements anyways...if an ele needs one then they are playing the game wrong.
Not quite true: an single ele in an 8 player team might need battery. If you have you skills well organized as a sole nuker, you can nuke like a machine, without pause and get low on energy.

Don't bring up the well known line of Glyps and stuff. If you never been in the situation as an emo where you desperatly wanted that extra energy regen to cast somethin asap that would annihilate the remaining monsters you should play more.

Dual attunments heh? ever hear of exhaust?

X of Thulcandra

X of Thulcandra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Sector 001

N/A

W/

Why are the monks on strike? Because we don't pay them to help us at THK? Mhenlo is a more competent monk than most of the wannabe "show runners" that plague GW.

Is that "n00b warrior" making you mad? Sorry buddy, there are just as many ''noobie" monks as there are warriors. Maybe if you showed respect and helped someone that wasn't as "leet" as you are, people would possibly show respect back, which right now, you don't really deserve at all. Alot of monks can dish crap out, but when they are in they start to get a little bit of flak, they all of a sudden pull the stunt where they make a thread that sounds like they are trying to start some sort of revolution, or, to put it simply, whine and snivel about how they "work" so hard and aren't getting enough "respect" (<---funny) from the other 5 classes.

Go choke.

pegasux

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellia Darkstar
Stuff like this happens all the time on the america server... Is it likethat in european server too.. Cuz this seems ridiculous. Instead of fighting to keep favor for our country we strike and not let others play.
I'm canadian so i dont care which server im at, i always get ppl puttin me down cuz im canadian.
lol...it's all good. i don't care what you are as long as your not an aggro monkey and can play then your ok in my book.

Sinjin

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mile High Club [mile]

Mo/

it'd be a lot of fun - and I'd get a lot of satisfaction seeing w/mo's hoping to join the party and being denied.

pegasux

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderpower
Not quite true: an single ele in an 8 player team might need battery. If you have you skills well organized as a sole nuker, you can nuke like a machine, without pause and get low on energy.

Don't bring up the well known line of Glyps and stuff. If you never been in the situation as an emo where you desperatly wanted that extra energy regen to cast somethin asap that would annihilate the remaining monsters you should play more.

Dual attunments heh? ever hear of exhaust?
hum exhaust, why would i have two skills that would cause exhaustion on me? I wouldn't because that would hurt my team in a long drawn out battle. I only need the one meteor shower not the echoed one or the one from GoR. Far to many times i see people drop 2 or even three to disperse a crowd so the battle drags on even longer then necessary. if you know how to nuke properly then with dual attunements you won't run out of energy. just be smart as to who your using the high energy spells on. I have beat the game with my ele and often times am the sole ele in the latter missions, so yes i do know how to nuke or spike without needing Blood Ritual. Perhaps it is you who needs to play more as an e/mo.

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

Quote:
Originally Posted by X of Thulcandra
Why are the monks on strike? Because we don't pay them to help us at THK? Mhenlo is a more competent monk than most of the wannabe "show runners" that plague GW.

Is that "n00b warrior" making you mad? Sorry buddy, there are just as many ''noobie" monks as there are warriors. Maybe if you showed respect and helped someone that wasn't as "leet" as you are, people would possibly show respect back, which right now, you don't really deserve at all. Alot of monks can dish crap out, but when they are in they start to get a little bit of flak, they all of a sudden pull the stunt where they make a thread that sounds like they are trying to start some sort of revolution, or, to put it simply, whine and snivel about how they "work" so hard and aren't getting enough "respect" (<---funny) from the other 5 classes.

Go choke.
This thread started 'cause one monk was afk dancing.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

This whole thing leaves me wondering just one thing - What are people doing with their other 3 character slots? It's as if the striking Monks play only a Monk and nothing else! (That goes for many other classes as well.)

There are bad players in EVERY profession and Combo - but I don't think there's as many as people make it out to be. And there are players who make mistakes along the way - including myself. But if a person LEARNS from their mistakes, there should be no problem.

You want to know if a W/Mo is any good? Ask them if they're bringing Frenzy. If they are, I'd be very, very leery about them. IMHO, it's a piece of crap skill and I NEVER use it. You give out 33% more damage, but take 100% more - no thank you!

And shame on the Monks who think that a Warriors job is to just stand there and take a beating. There are situations where a Warrior needs to be a tank, like in Tombs (hard to hit anything when you're constantly blind, which I don't pester the monks about, as it's a waste of energy to remove it - LOL), and there are times when he should be a damage dealer, BUT they should always carry some defensive skills.

But the ovewhelming thing to me is the total ignorance about the capabilities of a Mesmer! Everyone's got this idea that Mesmers only have 2 skills - backfire & empathy. If Ignorance was bliss, then today THK is Euphoria!

As for the 8/8 monk group that beat THK, What secondaries did everyone have? How many secondary skills were used? Nobody seems curious about that at all. I don't really care, because to me beating THK with all henchies would be tougher to do.

pegasux

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

what's the big deal with THK anyways? I've beaten it all but once in 4 or 5 tries. Just have 2 people man the catapults and keep pulling the lever. the other 6 can kill the rest.

Sinjin

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mile High Club [mile]

Mo/

try it - THK with all hench is actually pretty easy as long as you stay near the king.

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
But the ovewhelming thing to me is the total ignorance about the capabilities of a Mesmer! Everyone's got this idea that Mesmers only have 2 skills - backfire & empathy. If Ignorance was bliss, then today THK is Euphoria!
what's a mesmer?

Mythics

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sons of Lilith

E/Mo

5 classes deal dmg
1 class heals those 5, and then.. only two of it's attribute lines can do so

Protection/Healing are more important to the generic 4/6/8 man build than any others.

You can do without a warrior sometimes, you can do without a mesmer.. but how often can you so easily do without a monk?

Mellia Darkstar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Empire Of the Underworld

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by pegasux
what's the big deal with THK anyways? I've beaten it all but once in 4 or 5 tries. Just have 2 people man the catapults and keep pulling the lever. the other 6 can kill the rest.
yes i say reject monks

Quote:
You can do without a warrior sometimes, you can do without a mesmer.. but how often can you so easily do without a monk?
take henchmen they dont complain.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
There are bad players in EVERY profession and Combo - but I don't think there's as many as people make it out to be.
The most true statement in this thread.

Quote:
You want to know if a W/Mo is any good? Ask them if they're bringing Frenzy. If they are, I'd be very, very leery about them. IMHO, it's a piece of crap skill and I NEVER use it. You give out 33% more damage, but take 100% more - no thank you!
The most untrue statement in this thread (not counting opinions and such). It's 50% more damage. Double damage on a Warrior isn't that big of a deal anyway because Warriors don't generally take much damage except against spikes, in high-level areas, and when you're already screwed.

pegasux

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellia Darkstar
yes i say reject monks



take henchmen they dont complain.
yeah i doesn't hurt that Lina is hot either.

Mellia Darkstar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Empire Of the Underworld

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by pegasux
yeah i doesn't hurt that Lina is hot either.
ROFL well it's not the thing i look but she's devoted :P

nitrile

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

I find it quite amusing that all of the people that complain about the 'monk strike' and saying it is childish or don't understand it do not also have Mo/ listed under their characters.

Yes, no doubt every class hates it when a lot of agro is collected. But it's not the wammo or tanking ele that gets the /blame/. Good players know this. But good players aren't that likely to have monk problems. The problem is we're frequently treat like henchmen, even if not by 'you', and that's exemplified by the line of thinking that we won't "let" you play. It's our own damned business and one day of amusement for 300 others we got flamed on for doing our level best to keep people alive from a situation they themselves created.

Never forget monks need a team as much as a team 'needs' monks. Today you can use henchmen. Tomorrow we'll be back in teams getting flamed at for wanting to help people.

Mellia Darkstar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Empire Of the Underworld

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by nitrile
I find it quite amusing that all of the people that complain about the 'monk strike' and saying it is childish or don't understand it do not also have Mo/ listed under their characters.

Never forget monks need a team as much as a team 'needs' monks. Today you can use henchmen. Tomorrow we'll be back in teams getting flamed at for wanting to help people.
Obviously you havent read the all thread, alot of ppl here has a monk but don't care for the strike.

Has for being on team, after this bs from monks, i dont want any random monks in my group. Especially after seeing that some even join teams today to ragequit or make them lose. Hopefully, others will see has i see.

Also, i had a monk, i was bad at it so i quit. No point in trying to help if i couldnt do the job and you don't see me complaining on how ppl were rude to me. At least i admited to be a bad healer. I can play other professions very good.

Pyromaniac

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Temple of the Ages

Rt/

Funny, I tried for an entire Saturday passing that mission with real people. I gave up and used henchies, and finally passed the mission with all of my characters. Kinda sad actually...

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

I love the strike, Monks do reserve more respect because there is very few, when they have no energy left, they cant heal, warriors curse em out.....

....^^^^^
^^i love it^^
....^^^^^^


WAY 2 MANY PEOPLE ARE WARRIORS. not all warriors but probally 7/8 of warriors are stuck-up or Nubs, there the reason why monks do this.

Mellia Darkstar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Empire Of the Underworld

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lint
I love the strike, Monks do reserve more respect because there is very few, when they have no energy left, they cant heal, warriors curse em out.....

WAY 2 MANY PEOPLE ARE WARRIORS. not all warriors but probally 7/8 of warriors are stuck-up or Nubs, there the reason why monks do this.
wasnt it said before that it started off when a monk was afk dancin in the mission? Good monks get the respect they deserve.

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellia Darkstar
wasnt it said before that it started off when a monk was afk dancin in the mission? Good monks get the respect they deserve.
No, no.

Monk A was AFK dancing in THK Mission Area. Not the actual mission. Just, you know, the area. Monk B starts dancing with Monk A--and then Monk B insults a warrior. Hilarity ensues.

Desutro Stroyen

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Chaos Syndicate [CS]

how odd....u'll definitely get more items that way but they can never compare to actual players but there are some upsides

1. They never talk back
2. They dont quit cause things arent going very well
3. Well they are in some cases smarter....ok well most cases
4. No noob rushing and they all attack the same target

Disadvantages
1. They dont talk back.....(it gets so lonely out there)
2. .....ok im out of disadvantages...

Pretty soon these monks around here are gonna be quite costly.

Greenfanart86

Greenfanart86

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

U.S.A

Cunning War Vixens [vixN]

LOL! Yeah..I had heard rumors about it earlier this morning while I was at Piken square on ym necro..and then I heard it later on after arriving in Lion's Arch O_x SO I was like, wtf..lol..Had to check it out..Jump on my Ranger..district one is full, so I go to two, even that is full of monks, and I finally got in district one..crazy stuff lol, monks all over lol..like a monk fest, deffinately good for a laugh though lol, here's a piccy XD. Thunderhead keep monk strike ftl! lol..*mutters* wish I had a monk to join in with..lol.

*Sorry for the small pics >_< Don't know why they're appearing like that O_x*



Mellia Darkstar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Empire Of the Underworld

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Studio Ghibli
No, no.

Monk A was AFK dancing in THK Mission Area. Not the actual mission. Just, you know, the area. Monk B starts dancing with Monk A--and then Monk B insults a warrior. Hilarity ensues.
oh well it happend to me before a few times while in mission and im sure i wasnt the only one

oh and one of them is actually there striking.. i've seen him of course ill be nice enough to not say his name cuz you know HE IS trying to get the respect he deserve

Desutro Stroyen

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Chaos Syndicate [CS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lint
I love the strike, Monks do reserve more respect because there is very few, when they have no energy left, they cant heal, warriors curse em out.....
Which is why every single monk ive teamed with has always used Essence Bond on the tanks.

HappySuicide

HappySuicide

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Knights of the Blazing Pheonix

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lint
WAY 2 MANY PEOPLE ARE WARRIORS. not all warriors but probally 7/8 of warriors are stuck-up or Nubs, there the reason why monks do this.

Oh there is a reason why you are doing this, but it isnt going to accomplish anything, you demand respect, but you must realize that in doing this, and spamming constantly about the strike that people arent going to respect you, they will find you annoying, and then just say F this...and take the henchie monks. This strike really is nothing more than something to waste time in my opinion.

And to note, i have never had a problem with a monk in any one of my missions where i have had a human player helping me, and i am a warrior...and no i dont agro things, i figure at level 20, i dont need experience, so i avoid what i can...this whole thing like i said above is a waste of time, and will not last long

Isis Mordecai

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/W

u do get alot of bad monks as well, ones that use wrong spells for certain situations which burns up their energy more than an aggro'n warrior would. i play w/mo and a n/me, i used to have a monk but got bored of it as its always healing which doesnt interest me.

but, at the same time this is pretty funny.

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

ROFl, theres just one gusy spamming funny stuff for EX:

CNN:News just reported in, ascalon soldier found healed to death on ascalon foot hills.

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

For every idiot warrior there's an idiot monk, and idiot ele, and idiot necro, an idiot ranger, and the occasional idiot mesmer.

Either way, hench>pugs.

Ken Dei

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

Yeah the monk strike is the dumbest thing I've heard of. Monks are ALWAYS on strike, their so stuck up you have to be a perfect group to et them, unless their new, or the merciful few that realize they aren't almighty.

Yes I have played a monk, and I wasn't good at it, and I didn't like the pressure, so you know what I did? I didn't keep playing it and whine about not getting "respect". I deleted the character and saved myself and others the grief.

If monks want respect they should stop being elitist snobs. Dying sucks for everyone, not just you. Being in a bad group sucks for everyone not just you. Everyone gets disrespected evenly over time.

ricocheting

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/D

"Many E/Mos arrested today for practicing healing without a license. easily spotted by surrounding dead!"

sun is in us

sun is in us

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Organic Soup

Of the Day

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ricocheting
"Many E/Mos arrested today for practicing healing without a license. easily spotted by surrounding dead!"
LOL...............

Mellia Darkstar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Empire Of the Underworld

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ricocheting
"Many E/Mos arrested today for practicing healing without a license. easily spotted by surrounding dead!"
i have seen E\mo doing a great job has healer before. At least they are being helpful and showin some team work unlike others... i dont think i need to call them out.

Elurian

Elurian

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Infection X [HacK]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ricocheting
"Many E/Mos arrested today for practicing healing without a license. easily spotted by surrounding dead!"
LOL I find this whole thing utterly hillarious. Fact is monks do get crapped on and so do other classes. I've played a monk since first beta preview and its not changed much since then. Last night I saw a monk who had 2 healing skills (orision and heal area) no rez and I watched as my ranger put out as much dps and degen on a tundra giant as I possibly could while the monk stood there watching the ele that was getting wailed on die. Didn;t cast one spell no protections no nothing. Best part my ranger with the res signet was the only one in the mission out of the 2 monks 1 mez 2 wars 2 rangers 1 necro and 1 ele that could rez :/ I also watched as the W/R that was squishier than the ele repeatedly charged into battle only to die immidately (5 hits maybe) I realize that the monk Im referring to probably was a prot monk however on an 8 man team if you;re prot for the love of all things holy prot both the wars not just your guildmate. All of these problems can be allieviated however by making a friends list and joining a guild. Sad to say but the day of the PUG died along about the 3rd day after launch.

X of Thulcandra

X of Thulcandra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Sector 001

N/A

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lint
I love the strike, Monks do reserve more respect because there is very few, when they have no energy left, they cant heal, warriors curse em out.....

WAY 2 MANY PEOPLE ARE WARRIORS. not all warriors but probally 7/8 of warriors are stuck-up or Nubs, there the reason why monks do this.
Monks apply to just about everything you just said about warriors as well. They get ugly. They curse people out. They can be the most stuck-up asshole you think you have ever met. They do NOT deserve any more respect than anyone else, though. There's a shortage of monks you say? Make one.

("You" applies to many people, not just Lint.)

Cronos Khan

Cronos Khan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

New Jersey

W/

LOL! A great way to end the week....

Mellia Darkstar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Empire Of the Underworld

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by X of Thulcandra
Monks apply to just about everything you just said about warriors as well. They get ugly. They curse people out. They can be the most stuck-up asshole you think you have ever met. They do NOT deserve any more respect than anyone else, though. There's a shortage of monks you say? Make one.

("You" applies to many people, not just Lint.)
iF everyone would think like you, gw wouldnt be going through this mess lol
ty i had exactly that in mind.

Angardel Morthond

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guild of Dawn

R/E

I've been a monk for a pretty long time, and we aren't treated all that bad, people are overreacting..
Also for all the people here bashing warriors: Not all warriors are Wammo's with mending and healing hands, some of them actually know what they're doing and they can be really usefull.

Ristaron

Ristaron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Canada, eh?

Legion Of Valhalla

E/



I originally made this against the IWAYs in CA and pet-rangers and generally anyone who greifed monks.
Yes, they are far too common.
No, they are not unavoidable.

Sadly, they are very much everywhere in PvE, hence why I stopped playing monk in PvE.
My monk still hasn't made it past THK because idiots keep aggroing everything, the trappers and nukers forget what they're doing and blame everything on the warriors, and the mesmers and monks try to keep order because they're pretty much the only competent classes on a whole.
Not saying other classes are idiot-sticks, just that generally only good players get their monks and mesmers to THK.

I'm gonna go watch the strike now, this sounds hilarious.