Six character slots confirmed

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Actually Cagan I believe Anet feels that paying for slots leads to inbalance, and in many ways I agree.

Zakarr

Zakarr

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

2 extra character slots is fine. Only somewhat hardcore players would play PvE with all main professions and they don't mind paying double price from the game. At least they shouldn't because they like the game a lot. Don't consider it as waste of money but as "donation" to game developers which helps the future contents of the game. Guild Wars has no monthly fee but they charge more with special way if you really want to play with all professions all the time.

I'm happy to their decision although I have two accounts anyway. I don't know what I'm going to do with 12 character slots but this is good for single account owners.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

All they have to do is enable linking of the Xunlai Storage box between accounts, that way you get one shared storage between your accounts and you get the maximum slots (i.e. 8). Everyone wins! But, due to marketing reasons (i.e. encourage people to buy multiple copies of the games) this probably won't happen, shame.

SaucE

SaucE

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OgreSlayingKnife.com

[MEEP] Biscuit of Dewm

N/

2 slots is enough for me cause I really don;t like playing as a monk or ele. SO I dont see myself liking the ritualist at all either. SO I will be able to add an assassin and have a slot open for PVP if I want to give that a try sometime.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenrath
All they have to do is enable linking of the Xunlai Storage box between accounts, that way you get one shared storage between your accounts and you get the maximum slots (i.e. 8). Everyone wins! But, due to marketing reasons (i.e. encourage people to buy multiple copies of the games) this probably won't happen, shame.
Guild storage would be nice.

FrogDevourer

FrogDevourer

on a GW break until C4

Join Date: Feb 2005

In your shadow

Servants of Fortuna

Quote:
Originally Posted by seut
Do i want 4 extra slots with every chapter? No, i would be happy with one pve slot for every primary profession plus an exclusive pvp slot.

The solution to satisfy people who want a little more char slots? Make them pay. I would gladly give 10euros for another slot, but that would destroy Anet's 'no monthly fee and no hidden costs' mission statement.
Where do I sign? I'm tired to play the same PvE characters each time I want to help a guild mate, or each time I want to grind for an obscure elite I haven't bothered unlocking. I don't want to delete old PvE characters I've played with for hundreds of hours. I also want more room to keep more than one PvP character. I simply hate it when I'm forced to reroll for a new role / equipment / secondary.

In short, I'm the typical GW veteran who plays both PvE and PvP. I want more PvE options and diversity (which means more primary and therefore more characters), and more flexibility in PvP (reroll only when necessary). ANet/NCSoft want more bucks, whatever their business model. I'm more than willing to buy extra slots and I don't care about their price tag.

If ANet doesn't allow this for political reasons, I have two options: buying a brand new account from a local retailer and unlocking everything from scratch (more grind, no thanks), or buying a good account on ebay (only decent solution, albeit against the EULA). In the end, I won't be happy because handling 2 accounts with 2 unlocks is not user-friendly, and ANet will lose $40 to $100 because I will give my money to another player instead of buying my character slots from them.

As for chapter 2, two extra slots was *really* the bare minimum. Casual players who own only a couple of PvE toons don't care about slots anyway, and veterans who already have multiple accounts will buy more copies. As for those who would like to have 1 pve of each profession plus some pvp slots on the same account, they have been screwed with chapter 1, and they'll still be screwed with chapter 2.

In brief, 4 or 4+2 slots isn't enough for me and I'm more than willing to pay for more slots. Why is ebay the only viable option? Let me give me my money to ANet already!

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

If ANET has the ability to link accounts, then wouldn't it be nice to have the option to link your two Chapter 1 accounts, and then link the linked account with Factions.

Linking two Chapter 1 accounts would be similar to a Factions link, providing you 2 extra character slots. Linking Factions another 2.

So:

Link two Chapter 1 accounts = 6 character slots = access to all Chapter 1 professions

Linking a 'linked' Chapter 1 account = 6 character + 2 Factions profession slots = 8 character slots = all professions for Chapter 1 & 2 on ONE account.

Sure you'd still have to buy two Chapter 1 accounts, but not two Factions accounts.

asdar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

It seems obvious to me that 7 slots is ideal. 6 pve + 1 PvP.

I'm not sure why they didn't do that and make the people it's possible to make happy satisfied.

I don't care for myself and won't complain. I'm 3+1 and I'll get two slots to run up PvE characters and be able to switch professions so it's all good by me.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrogDevourer
buying a brand new account from a local retailer and unlocking everything from scratch (more grind, no thanks)
This completely baffles me. If you want more slots for (presumably) PvE characters, why does it matter if you have nothing unlocked on it?

Edit: And oh god look at this monstrosity I have released.

led-zep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

oh my god is it really that hard.

not linked =
2 seperate games, 4 slots in each totalling 8 but they are both in seperate games. you cannot take your chracters into the new/old area so factions characters cant go to tyria. this way you will play chapter 1 on one account, chapter 2 on another,

linked =
both games are linked, you only get 2 more slots totalling 6 but your characters are free to roam any area and the game is played on one account.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Meh, I play my PvE chars for completeness, so this is just fine. I want to take my mes and necro into Cantha, not create a new accountfull of PvE chars

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

At first people were screaming for two more slots with Factions. Now, some are screaming for 4. What are you going to do with 8 slots? For me, 2 is an added bonus. I don't understand why these people think they're being ripped off. If you want eight, install it as a stand alone. Gaile's explanation made perfect sense to me and I don't have a problem with it. The only new profession I was interested in was the Assassin anyway. Now, maybe I'll try a little PvP with the extra slot. Six will be more than enough for me and I'm happy.

Raxxman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

TEOC

W/N

My question is, if they're going to release a chapter every 6 months with 2 new classes each chapter, are they going to continue to increase the number of character slots for each chapter you purchase?

wolfe2dale

wolfe2dale

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Hemel Hempstead

Guildless...

E/Me

I really don't understand all the complaints? We finally get a decent online game that doesn't charge a monthly fee & all people can do is whine*I want more* at Anet....

Sorry, I'm very happy with the 6 character slots, this easily offers enough opportunity to try out any variation of the game.

If you guys don't like what's on offer then buy an alternative.....wait a second, there isn't one.

John Bloodstone

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Requiem Lords

R/Me

6 slots = 5 PVE and 1 PVP.

With the next expansion coming in 6 months time (i'm guessing) who can honestly say they are going to fully complete the game with all 5 slots AND play thorugh all the endgame content AND have enough time to play PVP?

If you really spend every waking hour playing this game to the point where you can do all of the above in 6 months, then perhaps you deserve to buy another account - ANets bandwidth and servers don't come free you know.

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

this one is simple

4 X 50 = 200

6 X 100 = 600

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Why is it that the people bitching at the ones (me included) complaining that +2 slots isn't enough don't understand what we are saying? We are asking for more than 2 extra slots. We are not being greedy, hell, everyone here who is asking for more is actually willing to pay for extra slots. That sure as hell is gonna put a big dent in ArenaNet's bandwidth costs, what with a few extra slots per account and some money forked over to pay for them.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gonzo
2 pve, 1 pre, 1 pvp
1 pre factions 1 factions pve

I see no problems as of yet.
Prophesies: Ranger and Monk PvE finished, Warrior and Mesmer PvE Halfway....
Factions: Ritualist and Assassin PvE to go...(Possibly pulling my Ranger and Monk through Factions as well...)
Don't care shit about PvP....

adds up to....

A gruesome amount of gameplay to go yet So I arent bothered I cant finish the game as Necromancer or Elementalist. To make matters worse, in 6 months GW III will be on its way I need more time to play this game!!

Thumbs up Anet!

WetWookie

WetWookie

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I can't believe you guys are happy about only 2 slots with linked accounts.

I think the whole initial statement about 1 additional slot was to make you guys go "oh thank god we get 2 slots" instead of realizing your getting screwed by not getting 4. Well I'm not fooled and I'm angry.

wolfe2dale

wolfe2dale

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Hemel Hempstead

Guildless...

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
Why is it that the people bitching at the ones (me included) complaining that +2 slots isn't enough don't understand what we are saying? We are asking for more than 2 extra slots. We are not being greedy, hell, everyone here who is asking for more is actually willing to pay for extra slots. That sure as hell is gonna put a big dent in ArenaNet's bandwidth costs, what with a few extra slots per account and some money forked over to pay for them.
We do understand, we just think you are incredibly under-appreciative of what Anet have achieved here.
Anet have supplied an entirely new chapter on time with the only additional cost being the price of the game itself...

But, some people, like yourself, are not satisfied, you always want more than is being offered. So, where do you draw the line then? 2 more slots, 10, 100?

Anet have said that they feel it would unbalance the game to allow some people to have more character slots than others, I agree with them on this.

& that is why I am bitching....

WetWookie

WetWookie

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Can you imagine going to restaurant with a friend and being told that if you both order a burger and fries and you put in on the same check only one of you will actually receive fries?

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by WetWookie
I can't believe you guys are happy about only 2 slots with linked accounts.

I think the whole initial statement about 1 additional slot was to make you guys go "oh thank god we get 2 slots" instead of realizing your getting screwed by not getting 4. Well I'm not fooled and I'm angry.
Look at it from my point of view: by buying Factions I will be able to transfer the 4 characters I already own from Prophecies to an entire new continent. Only for about 50 euro. As an added bonus, I recieve 2 additional character slots, just for free

wolfe2dale

wolfe2dale

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Hemel Hempstead

Guildless...

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by WetWookie
Can you imagine going to restaurant with a friend and being told that if you both order a burger and fries and you put in on the same check only one of you will actually receive fries?
We just have completely different opinions about this mate

I'm happy with what they're offering & your not, no big deal...

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrogDevourer
Where do I sign? I'm tired to play the same PvE characters each time I want to help a guild mate, or each time I want to grind for an obscure elite I haven't bothered unlocking. I don't want to delete old PvE characters I've played with for hundreds of hours. I also want more room to keep more than one PvP character. I simply hate it when I'm forced to reroll for a new role / equipment / secondary.

In short, I'm the typical GW veteran who plays both PvE and PvP. I want more PvE options and diversity (which means more primary and therefore more characters), and more flexibility in PvP (reroll only when necessary). ANet/NCSoft want more bucks, whatever their business model. I'm more than willing to buy extra slots and I don't care about their price tag.

If ANet doesn't allow this for political reasons, I have two options: buying a brand new account from a local retailer and unlocking everything from scratch (more grind, no thanks), or buying a good account on ebay (only decent solution, albeit against the EULA). In the end, I won't be happy because handling 2 accounts with 2 unlocks is not user-friendly, and ANet will lose $40 to $100 because I will give my money to another player instead of buying my character slots from them.

As for chapter 2, two extra slots was *really* the bare minimum. Casual players who own only a couple of PvE toons don't care about slots anyway, and veterans who already have multiple accounts will buy more copies. As for those who would like to have 1 pve of each profession plus some pvp slots on the same account, they have been screwed with chapter 1, and they'll still be screwed with chapter 2.

In brief, 4 or 4+2 slots isn't enough for me and I'm more than willing to pay for more slots. Why is ebay the only viable option? Let me give me my money to ANet already!

I quoted the whole darn thing because I'm sick and tired of those who don't get it, suggest it'd be imbalanced (eating the marketing line hook line and sinker) or calling us whiners. I don't think its right to milk us for slots - but to not even give us the options means my account might turn into a 'UAS' for someone else. I'm not willing to play the deletion game and have the experience dulled for me due to some crazy ANet (mis)conception.

Why do people continually feel there's a nutty character slot # request going forward? This would be a one-time resolution of the original deficit - I wouldn't care only 2 slots if I didnt have only 4 to share across PvE and PvP for prophecies. If you can't see how quickly you could run out there especially if you want to not be a level 20 with new friends/guildies/show up in pre-sear I don't know what to say to you.

I tag on here because maybe if there are some more recognizable names getting into the picture ANet might wake up since obviously the original noise didn't do the job. Yeah and once again pigs can fly outta my you know where...

Katch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

1 question immediately comes to mind,

2 slots for PvE or 1 for PvE and 1 for PvP? If its the latter I will not be happy, I want to be able to put both new profs through the PvE game without sacrifcing any of my current characters.

wolfe2dale

wolfe2dale

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Hemel Hempstead

Guildless...

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katch
1 question immediately comes to mind,

2 slots for PvE or 1 for PvE and 1 for PvP? If its the latter I will not be happy, I want to be able to put both new profs through the PvE game without sacrifcing any of my current characters.
the slots are the same as the current 4... they can be used for either pve or pvp

Tekish

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

I think the reason that some of us have problems with this slot system is that ArenaNet really hasn't provided any sort of reasoning behind their decision - at least none that they've shared with us. In fact, it's kind of been that way since the beginning - you get 4 character slots for GW, you can't buy any additional ones and that's that. Now there's factions, where it's the same thing - you can get individual unlinked factions with 4 slots and that's that, or you can take a hit on character slots and merge factions with your existing GW account. Why though?

I'm sure ANet has some mystical plan behind this, but I for the life of me can't figure it out. It can't be account sharing related (which was originally thought shortly after GW release), because as someone has already stated in this thread, ANet would offer the option to purchase more slots in that case. It also can't be server space/bandwidth related either, because both are only affected marginally by a change from 2 to 4 slots (I've programmed server/client/database applications before), and it would ultimately be the same in terms of bandwidth and space if you bought the accounts separately anyway.

I think it would help a great deal if ArenaNet made some sort of statement explaining their logic behind this, so maybe then I could understand why we're being forced to make unnecessary sacrifices to our factions game purchase. Because this just feels like this is the beginning of annoying choices we'll be forced to make with each upcoming expansion in the future, and if that's the case, I don't know if that's something I really want to put up with.

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Again, if there's two new professions each update, the number of combinations quickly becomes unmanageable to keep (with 5 professions we had 20 possible combinations, with 7 professions it's 42, at 9 professions the number of possible primary/secondary combinations will be 72).
Same with character slots, if people want 4 for a total of 8 then in a cople of years we would have tons of slots which I think is not good for Anet.
This way people will share the same account.

They are just preventing people from sharing accounts, with 6 now we have the option to create a faction character plus maybe a pvp character or a mule.
If they keep adding slots then we will have extra ones that other people in the house can use which is against EULA

Thats why I think its not a good idea to have new professions each chapter. It will be way unmanigable in the future especially with dual professions as Numa Pompilius puts it.

Katch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfe2dale
the slots are the same as the current 4... they can be used for either pve or pvp
that in itself makes no sense, the 4 current slots cannot be used for either PvP or PvE. 2 can be used as PvE and 2 as PvP, they are not universal.

thelessa

thelessa

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Purple Puzycats

R/Mo

I would have lived with just one extra slot, but having two is gravey

WetWookie

WetWookie

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katch
that in itself makes no sense, the 4 current slots cannot be used for either PvP or PvE. 2 can be used as PvE and 2 as PvP, they are not universal.
Yes they are.... I have three PvE and one PvP. I know people with four PvE and some with four PvP...

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Preventing account sharing? Depending on the person, you could buy three accounts between two people and share the third easily.

Imbalance to those who can't afford extra slots? I HAVE A BETTER ADVANTAGE IN THE GAME THAN YOU DO BECAUSE I HAVE 7 CHARACTERS AND YOU ONLY HAVE 6 BWAHAHAHA!... Or we could go with the other logic that to prevent imbalance to people who can't afford more slots, we'll just gimp the entire community.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katch
that in itself makes no sense, the 4 current slots cannot be used for either PvP or PvE. 2 can be used as PvE and 2 as PvP, they are not universal.
who told you that misinformation?

i have all 4 slots as PVE and most have 3 pve and 1 pvp

Raxxman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

TEOC

W/N

essentally someone who buys and merges accounts has an advantage over someone who doen't buy factions.

They have 2 more slots, 2 more classes to choose from, different skills for all classes.

Balance isn't so much an issue here from my perspective

SpaceGh057

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

I personally am quite please with 2 spare slots. Unfortunately, I've deleted one on my second, so...I'm not entirely certain what I'm going to do with the spare slots.
While expecting one slot, I got rid of a character to get the most available stuff.
btw, <3 flamers.

forever

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Now the question is whether the CE will give one extra slot. If that's true, Anet will see a lot more CE sales, which means more money for them. So the limitation of character slots is definitely a marketing decision.

Marus Varrus

Marus Varrus

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Alabama USA

Force of Arms

W/R

I say let us all rejoice for getting two slots. This virtually garuntees every new expansion will give two more.
Funny how the debate shifted so quickly from getting only one extra instead of two to "why dont we get 4?"

Starsky-sama

Starsky-sama

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Land of the Z Chest \o/

[NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil.

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marus Varrus
I say let us all rejoice for getting two slots. This virtually garuntees every new expansion will give two more.
Funny how the debate shifted so quickly from getting only one extra instead of two to "why dont we get 4?"
/exactly.
/agrees.

/It's a norm, the more you get, the more you want. some ppl are hard to satisfy.period.

vinegrower

vinegrower

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Song of the Forsaken

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katch
that in itself makes no sense, the 4 current slots cannot be used for either PvP or PvE. 2 can be used as PvE and 2 as PvP, they are not universal.
Really? Well then how do I have 4 PvE characters? You may need to check your information.

Quote:
Originally Posted by forever
Now the question is whether the CE will give one extra slot. If that's true, Anet will see a lot more CE sales, which means more money for them. So the limitation of character slots is definitely a marketing decision.
If CE gave 1 or 2 extra slots, they would sell HUGE amounts of them. Hell, I'd probably go buy a second copy of Prophicies and Factions. (though I don't know what the hell I would do with 14-16 slots, lol)

Rok

Rok

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Guild Wars

You do have to feel sorry for the Factions only people, who only get 4 slots to choose from 8 classes to play.

In defense of those who want 1 slot per primary class, which includes me ^.^, let me say this:

It is not just having to delete a lvl 20 char with 15k armror, etc, etc. It is having the option to play any of my chars for whichever purpose I need. A guildie needs a monk to help with a quest, I got one, they need a tank, got one, need a nuker, etc. Oh, you need a class I don't have? Sorry bud, can't help you there.

Not to mention, boredom, I like to play my Ranger, Warrior, Monk, and Necro ... but would also like to experience playing a Mesmer and Elem, without having to destroy a well loved character.

As far as an extra PvP slot in addition, not really needed, once you have unlocked all skills with all 6 primary classes, and ascended and done the 2ndary class change quests, you can take any of your 6 to go pvp, changing 2ndary as necessary. Which is something of a problem even for PvP only chars, who you have to remake to change 2ndary.

Sluggs

Sluggs

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oki
I am not sure why there is unhappiness....the whole premise of Guildwars is limit people so they have to make choices...well this is no exception...You either choose to have 8 players but not acces to all the skills OR you choose 6 characters but have full access....
Or you choose not to buy chapter 2 at all which is currently my most likely choise. Chapter 2 is looking like another helping of the stuff which ended up boring and ultimately unsatisfying in chapter 1.