[Merged] March 13 Update: Roll back to 1 PM Pacific, 21 GMT, officially announced

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

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Network News
This is a temporary entry page for the Guild Wars Official Site. Due to extraordinarily high traffic, we have placed this page to provide you immediate access to current Network News. You may click through to visit the Guild Wars site at this link.

Due to a server error, Guild Wars experienced an unintentional reset of the traders. For nearly an hour, traders were selling items at unrealistically low prices. Due to the harmful impact that such an event would cause to the game economy, we are rolling back the entire state of the game to shortly before the problem began, that is, to 1:00 p.m. Pacific Time, 21:00 GMT.

We estimate that the game will be accessible at approximately 11:00 p.m. PST tonight (07:00 GMT).

Sir Decoy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

database error = repost

commander_carter

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by aeroclown
Um, I hate to break the news to your intelligence but, using a glitch or a bug to your advantage is an exploit, always has been and always will be. A roll-back is the quickest, sure fire route to restoring the world state. While I struggle to write this without a quirky remark and since you know best I hope that you and all your friends boycott Factions. Simply becuase we surely don't need people in the game that are intrested in ruining the fun of others by systematiclly pushing items out of the reach of other players. It is apparent to me that a number of players fail to see the complexity of the reasons for a roll back in this case and instead of taking the time to actually understand the dynamics they just rattle off what they know best, a complaint about something they fail to understand.

I couldn't care less if they rolled back a month, its a game, if it takes me more time to hobble the stuff I had back together so what ?

A Puzzle only remains fun as long as it is not solved ! -

(darn the spelling errors and the number of people accessing the database)
I agree. This rollback was a very good thing and should be treated as such. Besides if you had 50 Sup vigors how did you plan to sell them? EVERYONE had 50 Sup vigors!

master_ranger_matt

master_ranger_matt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Salt Lake City, Utah.... no im not mormon

Radicals Against Tyrants [RAT]

R/Me

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{IceFire}

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

gee gee us. they must be having trouble getting rid of hte prob

96TSi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Fort Worth

Clowns of Wrath[CoW]

W/R

damn Jessyi is good

96TSi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Fort Worth

Clowns of Wrath[CoW]

W/R

Jessyi, tell me im going to win the lottery now!!

Kailin Aer

Kailin Aer

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

USA

Bad Karma Resurrection [BKR]

OK, ive sat back and watched...
1. im ok with the roll back
2. i think Anet is trying do the right thing
3. and heres the minds blower... so what is the traders glitched for a while? yeah, in know all you Wow and D2 kids love grinding away and many lobe to sell for a buck, but so freking what! Its a game. Fixing the traders and knowing I missed a opportunity to get a great deal wouldnt stop me from playing. BUT it would effect you sale maongers greater deal more than ppl who actually play more than trade,

not a flame, or intended to be offensive, just my 1 cents

KA

Jessyi

Jessyi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Network News
Due to a server error, Guild Wars experienced an unintentional reset of the traders. For nearly an hour, traders were selling items at unrealistically low prices. Due to the harmful impact that such an event would cause to the game economy, we are rolling back the entire state of the game to shortly before the problem began, that is, to 1:00 p.m. Pacific Time, 21:00 GMT. We estimate that the game will be accessible at approximately 11:00 p.m. PST tonight (07:00 GMT).
Sonofa...looks like I was right. My cynicism senses are tingling.

But honestly, do you think it was hard to guess? And to be fair, the original posted time was 8:30 pm PST. I was off by a half hour.

Exyled

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

N/A

W/Mo

( Everyone would suffer irreparable harm, because the items that have value would be devalued. The economy would be damaged, perhaps to the point where it would never recover.)

OK maybe I don't understand...How could this cause this much harm??
I mean come on it's a game...I can see that some people would gain alot
of cash off this, but I'm willing to bet it would only effect things for a short
time.

People buy gold everyday off e-bay and that doesn't seem to hurt anything
in the game...atleast I've never noticed it.

just seems like alot of trouble to go thru and alot of people get inconvienced
because some people would get rich or get FoW armor..
I just don't get it...

what real harm could it have done?? economy in a game??

it is just a game after all.

Sir Decoy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by neoteo
Network News
This is a temporary entry page for the Guild Wars Official Site. Due to extraordinarily high traffic, we have placed this page to provide you immediate access to current Network News. You may click through to visit the Guild Wars site at this link.

Due to a server error, Guild Wars experienced an unintentional reset of the traders. For nearly an hour, traders were selling items at unrealistically low prices. Due to the harmful impact that such an event would cause to the game economy, we are rolling back the entire state of the game to shortly before the problem began, that is, to 1:00 p.m. Pacific Time, 21:00 GMT.

We estimate that the game will be accessible at approximately 11:00 p.m. PST tonight (07:00 GMT).
http://www.guildwars.com

im waiting till tomorrow

alphabull

alphabull

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Blue Templar Knights

E/N

Man 11:00 pm PST thats another 2 hours away, it'll be 1 am here. Bah... I'm going to play DII or WoW tonight.

Just Another Dude

Just Another Dude

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

ugh... they pushed it back >

Scav

Scav

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

aV

N/Me

I'm about to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_fullscr...e=Pc%20lunatic


On Second thought..... Nahh...

Sir Tachyon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Maryland, USA

W/Mo

"We estimate that the game will be accessible at approximately 11:00 p.m. PST tonight (07:00 GMT)."

now it's not gonna be up till around 2AM EST when they still have 11:30PM EST posted on the login screen?!?

VampiricuS

VampiricuS

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exyled
( Everyone would suffer irreparable harm, because the items that have value would be devalued. The economy would be damaged, perhaps to the point where it would never recover.)

OK maybe I don't understand...How could this cause this much harm??
I mean come on it's a game...I can see that some people would gain alot
of cash off this, but I'm willing to bet it would only effect things for a short
time.

People buy gold everyday off e-bay and that doesn't seem to hurt anything
in the game...atleast I've never noticed it.

just seems like alot of trouble to go thru and alot of people get inconvienced
because some people would get rich or get FoW armor..
I just don't get it...

what real harm could it have done?? economy in a game??

it is just a game after all.


its a lot more trouble to go to ebay and purchase gold. most of the younger players dont even or arent even old enough to have ebay accounts. point is, the merchant issue was easy to reach, no work. to make it more clear for you, when more people have these items, the value goes down. understand? all the ectos i have in my storage , all the EARNED sup runes i have will LOOSE value. this isnt a question about it being *just* a game, in a game there are rules, and beleive it or not, ethics along with economics in a mmorpg.

its not rocket science

commander_carter

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

N/Me

Look I'm fine if you hate the update. I'm ok if you don't like the exploiters. But please don't fry the PvE people. I don't want to take the time to explain the whole PvE against PvP feeling to you and even if I did your hate would drown it out. Just know that you PvP people have alot of problems that us PvE people don't like. For example you can't get a good (team that can win 1 battle) PvP team unless you have a high rank and you can't rank up if you can't win. So if your new to the game and want to get on the PvP scene your never going to get there. (And don't mention this little thing called skill. I have PvPed and pwned many a guy in Hoh)

Ghettochild2600

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

at my computer

Presearing Elites

W/R

I live in oregon its 8:46pm atm i live in my room and not to smart so any one tell me what time I should be able to start playing agian here? 11:00pm? if so im going to go back and play my call of duty.

Saider maul

Saider maul

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Baltimore, Maryland

8:47pm pst still not logging in...

Vulch`

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Ok, I understand the rollback and all. But I REALLY feel you guys over at A-net owe us a better explanation than a "server error" or simply because people bought things. Clarify? Explain? Something, I paid you 50$ and I deserve to know what is happening. I may be a little extra mad seeing as I got two things during this period of time that I wouldn't like to lose.

But c'mon, you encourage us and thank us for us being loyal/honest customers by reporting exactly what happened, so where's your half? Anet owes us a loyal/honest explanation, afterall we are the customers, not too sound greedy.


/rantover

Spiderguard

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

TEXAS!!!

MAV

N/Me

hook, line, and sinker.

Turan, please include numbers from both event to back up your basics of Eco 101.

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

They have a new message it'll hopefully be up around 11:00pm PST

Da Cebuano

Da Cebuano

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Virginia born in Cebu

Jelly Toast[jT]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav
I'm about to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_fullscr...e=Pc%20lunatic


On Second thought..... Nahh...
hahaha, too bad I didn't understand a word he was saying

Man, I can imagine someone who bought 2k shards 2k rubies 2k sapphires, inventory full of super vigor and super abs are probly doing about the same thing right about now.

I also hope anet does something about my drop rates, its been really sucky lately. Hopefully the roll back also does something about my terrible luck.

Oh well, no matter, as long as the rollback don't affect me, I haven't played since last friday night. 998k and a bunch of stuff better still be there.

manaleak34

manaleak34

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Onslaught of Xen

E/Mo

www.Guildwars.com says it will be up at 11:00 PM PST now...

guess they haven't worked everything out yet...

TheShadowedBlade

TheShadowedBlade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

You Cannot Escape It You Are A [Wave]

W/

Uh oh, anger is rising as people are slowly being deprived of GW.

Sir Tachyon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Maryland, USA

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav
I'm about to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_fullscr...e=Pc%20lunatic


On Second thought..... Nahh...
LMMFAO!!!!! Man I love my Logitech G15 keyboard and G7 mouse too much to beat on them like that....

Man... what was he playing PINBALL? (no wonder they lost WW2)

Ole Man Bourbon

Ole Man Bourbon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta

GONG

W/E

8:30 PM in Oregon, since you're in the PST zone.

I think some people on this board need to go play some Star Wars Galaxies or such so they may come back with a more appreciative attitude. This rollback is like a fart in the wind compared to the Armaggedonesque disasters other MMORPG devs can wreak on their customers. 1-hour rollback is nothing.

I do feel bad for the handful of people who are losing their dream drops though. Most everything else can be replaced pretty easily however, I would think.

mrbb

mrbb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/

Would this screw the economy? Only in the short-term... It is just like a stock crash for the people who held the highly valued items. Prices would go down but eventually would go up again.

I think it is ridiculous that someone has to pay 60k for a Superior Runes. Wasn't this game designed to avoid 'grinding'? Then again, the problem is really the professional farmers that raise prices to where the casual player will have a hard time getting certain items.

Chilly Ress

Chilly Ress

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kinetic Fusion [kF]

Me/

well, they are 23 mins late as of now, on 3, 1...2...3..ANet get your job done!

calamitykell

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

N.Y.C.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav
I'm about to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_fullscr...e=Pc%20lunatic


On Second thought..... Nahh...
Eh, I've seen a few of those vids and whatnot. All staged for the camera.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

Wow... Anet has a server go down and people begin to act retarded.

Basicly from what I'm reading (and hoping is true) that since Anet is restarting the game from an hour before the problem became known... that anything done during that erased hour will be lost. There goes all your FOW armor haha... yes I laugh because I wasn't on to take advantage of the drop in prices to be bummed out knowing I could lose it all anyway...

PvE vs PvP?

Well its about time something happened to piss off the PvP folks who otherwise complain and always get their way. "oh thats to hard a build... nerf it please!" and get their wish. Because of all the demands for changes in PvP, its PvE that suffers... AoE nerf and a pile of other skills that worked VERY well in PvE until some PvP people cried to much and got it nerfed.

I'm more then happy to sit here staring at an error=72 for a while as long as it pisses off the PvP people. Now you know how we PvE people feel when you always get your way. Not that we want this down time but its about time you got the short end of the stick to.

As for "only the good players play a real game... PvP" people... Your the very reason I don't PvP... bunch of stuck ups is what you are. So elite but you gotta cry about very skill. When's the last time someone in PvE complained about a skill being to overpowering? Um... never since there hasn't even been a first.

Anyway... guess I'll go make some dinner. play nice people...

Scav

Scav

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

aV

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ole Man Bourbon
8:30 PM in Oregon, since you're in the PST zone.

I think some people on this board need to go play some Star Wars Galaxies or such so they may come back with a more appreciative attitude. This rollback is like a fart in the wind compared to the Armaggedonesque disasters other MMORPG devs can wreak on their customers. 1-hour rollback is nothing.

I do feel bad for the handful of people who are losing their dream drops though. Most everything else can be replaced pretty easily however, I would think.
Hehe.. Well said.. I just was messin' around.. Startin' some flame wars 'cause of boredom ( I guess my pvp nature).. :P For those who think i was serious.. Ya got punked..

Peace..

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Oh man, thats soo unfair -_- *grrr*

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

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2 more hours , this thread is going to break some record , time/posts on guru im guessing

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

W/

Rolling back might not be that simple...

calamitykell

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

N.Y.C.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ole Man Bourbon
8:30 PM in Oregon, since you're in the PST zone.

I think some people on this board need to go play some Star Wars Galaxies or such so they may come back with a more appreciative attitude.
I guess that's why I absolutely love ANet


<--- ex-SWG player.

Jas D

Jas D

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oklahoma, USA

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessyi
Oh, we're looking at approx 17 more minutes as of this post. Of course, I'm not holding my breath. This will either go one of three ways, ordered from least likely to most likely.

3rd most likely: It's already fixed, and they're just waiting to launch at 11:30 eastern

2nd most likely: Somehow they perfectly guessed the time at which they would just be finishing the roll-back. Hmm...in fact, this is probably the 3rd most likely. Regardless..

Most likely: They misjudged the repair time by 3 hours and we'll be back on tomorrow sometime.
Yeah most likely it won't be up untill tomorrow, I say don't get your hopes up.

Scav

Scav

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

aV

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by neoteo
2 more hours , this thread is going to break some record , time/posts on guru im guessing
Guess It's time to spam like mad man..

That's that first time somethin' like has happend (if my memory servs me right)..

tommarrow

tommarrow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shyft Machine [MYTH]

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If they are using Windows it could be another week.

Grasping Darkness

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

so because their server screwed up theyre gonna ruin everyones fun even more by blocking anyone from playing?