[Merged] March 13 Update: Roll back to 1 PM Pacific, 21 GMT, officially announced

Sentao Nugra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Crystal Lake, Illinois

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Network News
Due to a server error, Guild Wars experienced an unintentional reset of the traders. For nearly an hour, traders were selling items at unrealistically low prices. Due to the harmful impact that such an event would cause to the game economy, we are rolling back the entire state of the game to shortly before the problem began, that is, to 1:00 p.m. Pacific Time, 21:00 GMT.

there ya go folks

Donut Zeke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

This is not happening. I just got a 15^50 fellblade, req 8, and they are rolling back. They can't do this.

Theos

Theos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

River Dancing

Eternal Treachery [TimE]

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anton
I've read all that but I doubt that such rollback as they say is posible...
And even if it is and they will do it there will be two points 1st good that economics was not harmed at overal but 2d from players who will suffer from this rollback, some got some good drops on that time, some sold smg at price they wanted to sell it, some bought smg at good price, some did a hard mission or finished hard skill capture, so it will cause a great wave of unpleased people. I think ANet will have to do something about it like new cristmass or heloween or like free functions to all
I am sure they will make it up to us but people are being selfish, the economic wellfare > a small fraction of people's gains. Its simple logic. When have they even let us down? In my eyes never.

By the way the last price reset was done to globalize the GW economy and traders, it was intentional and cannot be used as a defense for keeping this reset.

lacuna

lacuna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Friend of mine bought 1000 shards, 900 sapphires, 600 rubies and 20 superior absorptions.

Shame about the rollback ^_^

cicero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

ULGG

W/

lol, what the hell. i cant login. no fair

anyways, i wonder what they will do. a very possible scenario could be that they simply do a roll back.

Isis Mordecai

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/W

i wont get to say bubye to my axe oh well. aslong as the economy is sorted i'd rather have a working game. lol

Donut Zeke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

This is not happening. I just got a 15^50 fellblade, req 8, and they are rolling back. They can't do this.

rocinanted

rocinanted

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

GR, MI

R/

i just want guild wars to work again, even tho all that gold from those runes would of been nice. especially the ones i put on my armor.

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

woot! thanks anet- they did'nt roll back last time this happened.. looks like they got things under control now =]

Joh

Joh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Sweden

Lucid Dreams [LD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
I can't log in at the moment, so can someone tell me did everything you buy just disappear?
Everything is still there atm and I'm staying on til I'm getting kicked.

96TSi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Fort Worth

Clowns of Wrath[CoW]

W/R

I'm glad GW is reverting the the madness that happened today. A few guildies and I worked really hard to afford the superior absorbtion runes we have and i wouldnt be to happy if joe blow who just got out of presear gets one for 250gold.

the only thing im worried about in the rollback is the 15^50 fellblade me and a friend of mine found today. i cant remeber what time we got it hnoes

Foo Fighterr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

Just bewfore it went down I had made a kick ass new ranger build that was pwning up noobs in the arena. Now I can't remember the skills and atts!!! IM doomed!!!

Teklord

Teklord

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Lloyd.ab.ca

Lords of All

R/Mo

Roll back. Well that kinda sucks. Couldn't go all out and get tons of stuff like some people did as I'm at work, but I was able to acquire enough stuff that would put me a nice enough position for my tastes.

Oh well, either way it wasn't going to be fair in all truth. Just like it wasn't really 'fair' that I (among many many others) missed the "legit" price reset that turned many people into over night rich kids as well. I'll bet none of them are complaining anyway.

Don't need a million plat, its a waste anyway. But I sure woulda loved to keep the runes that I otherwise will never see. Figures.

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

I'm glad for the rollback to just before it happened and not a 24 hour rollback since I just got a 15%^50 eternal bow last night.

Meo Yeong

Meo Yeong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada Eh!

Test

Mo/E

awesome

I love the fact they rolled back because i worked for my wealth. Doing quests is easy. I just feel sorry for anyone that got a good gold item ligit.

Donut Zeke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

No! They can't roll back. This is the first time I've ever gotten rich, and it was legitimate! Why are they doing this? This is not happening. I just got a 15^50 fellblade, req 8, and they are rolling back. They can't do this.

XeNoGeArZ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

It seems all the hard work done to completing missions and finding your rare item, capping skills or pets (spider capping last night) outweighs the heavy nature of this 'trader reset' problem which will pose an issue with the GW economy. Either way, ANET is going to lose out on this one.

adderworks

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/Me

Does the reset cover Fame points?

saab

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

It is a very sharp double-edged sword. People said they would be extremely angry if they didn't roll back, and now some people are getting screwed and are angry (for nonmonetary reason's of course) now that a roll-back has taken place. If would be interesting if ANET could only roll back the economic portion of the game, and say left the gold drops, exp, and missions completed untouched. Or do a full rollback, then individually restore gold drops, exp and missions from the supposed transaction log that is kept. How many people where on at the time, a couple thousand? Individual attention over say a week is not unreasonable.

ricocheting

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/D

better a handful of pissed off people who did/got something in those 2hrs than an entire community up in arms because their months of farming just got negated by someone lucky enough to be logged in at the right time

Bowman Artemis

Bowman Artemis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Gold Coast, Australia.

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

Quote:
i can't say i would be sorry if they rolled back or anything.. i just feel sorry for my m8. He just made all missions and ascended. shame if he would have to do that again.
So he completed every mission in the game and ascended within one hour. I'm calling BS. This rollback will be better for everyone in the long run. Deal with it guys, play the game how it was meant to be played.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

Oh well.

At least my Charr hides i farmed are safe...

/End Sarcasim

Well, I guess we know what most people will be complaining about this time.

Night Daftshadow

Night Daftshadow

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

In the forest

Hidden Shadows

R/Mo

i smell a "You're Fired!" at Anet. i wonder who's the lucky one...

knives

knives

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Me/

My friend IRL called my cell and told me about it. I was watching T.V at the time, so I didn't hear my phone ring, but he did tell me about what had happened. I knew they were going to be rolling back so thats why I wasn't too pissed I missed it.

fog_of_redoubt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

so wonder how long till servers are back up... could be a several hour job to role back and TEST to verify things are as they should be

Align

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Protectors of Awesome[AWE]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Donut Zeke
No! They can't roll back. This is the first time I've ever gotten rich, and it was legitimate! Why are they doing this? This is not happening. I just got a 15^50 fellblade, req 8, and they are rolling back. They can't do this.
Look at it this way. If they hadn't reset it, EVERYONE would've been rich, making your newly gained richness a normal amount at best.

wiz12268

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

California

Men In Black

The people that are whining and crying in this thread about economy and having people get something the "worked" months for is HILARIOUS. This is a GAME you guys realize that right?

If you weren't farming or running endless ToPK runs trying to get greens what else would you be doing? Probably not playing the game at all. So what is wring with a few people getting something for little or nothing? They just got lucky. I missed the first one, and I had millions of plat worth of stuff saved up. I wasn't crying then. The "economy" came back and even surpassed where it was. Ectos went from 8K to upwards of 16K, and that was WITH the influx of the new 55 builds creaming UW for hours on end.

The more people know the more the worry about stuff they have no control over. People see soemone getting something and they flip out. Who cares? It is a game. AHving money doesn't make it better.

You now see it al the time, peope get run all over the place, then they don't know what to do, where to go, or how to even play the game (outside of PvP). I don't think it is a coincidence that America can't hold favor now for more than a few hours a week. When the game first came out and people actually PLAYED it rather than sprinting through it, USA held favor for all but a couple hours a week.

Quick and easy isn't alwasy the answer, but for the ones that do it, they have to accept the consequences. All thouse guys that got loaded up with stuff today will get everything they want, and then what? Probaly not play again until they get the new edition. Then it starts all over again. Worrying about what new armor they don't have, or the new chi chi weapon that people have.

Be happy with what you have. It has been discussed ad nauseum on here about how very little weaponry actually has to do with damage. And if it does, then go buy a green for an amount that 2 hours of gameplay can buy.

But seeing people piss and moan about it is just too funny. It isn't like Arco started selling gas for 5 cents a gallon and people filled everything including the kitchen sink with fuel. It is a frigging game, get over it.

pigdestroyer

pigdestroyer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Chavos Del [ocho]

W/

I did one of those annoying maguma jungle missions.... gg arenanet....

Anton

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Theos
I am sure they will make it up to us but people are being selfish, the economic wellfare > a small fraction of people's gains. Its simple logic. When have they even let us down? In my eyes never.

By the way the last price reset was done to globalize the GW economy and traders, it was intentional and cannot be used as a defense for keeping this reset.
Hmm ectoes price was not influaced and market is market cause it can fix itself: if all prices are down then people will start selling it for cheap too, at first prices will be cheap then they will stabilize. Any market is based on suply and demand, what we have is huge suply but no demand... thouse who know a bit in economics understand that it will cause people to get rid of their shards at about traders price cause of price diff beetween merchants buy and sell if the merchant will sell for 250g and buy for 100g people will strat WTB shards for 150g...

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

Hmm. I'm considering Calling my Lawyer...

That'd make headlines! Arena Net Sued by group of angry teenagers who's Guild Wars Accounts were Rolled back!

saab

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Align
Look at it this way. If they hadn't reset it, EVERYONE would've been rich, making your newly gained richness a normal amount at best.
No, he could have just sold it for more. Even if the average gold of players is 2 million, there will be some people with alot more meaning he could have sold the sword for say 10 million, inflation plain and simple. The value of gold, runes, dyes, and rare materials would change, but items still keep their real value. That real value in terms of gold just fluctuates with the amount of gold there is in the market.

Fates

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kanuckistan

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/

Can anyone log in?

M C H A M M E R

M C H A M M E R

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Drunken Rangers [DR], Sig of Ultimate Doom [SiG]

W/

If they can do mass server rollbacks then why not account rollbacks? I have a few friends that have deleted charactors because of lag, then to contact CS to find they can't roll them back...

devils wraths

devils wraths

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

the fianna [fi]

E/Mo

from this roll back do u think they could keep the 60 fame i earned

Fates

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kanuckistan

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/

How do you delete a character due to lag? To delete a character, you have to click on the toon, click on delete, type the characters name and then click on enter, and are then asked basically "are you sure?" How does lag cause this?

hideto

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

i didnt missed the first market crash back in august. So anyways, i agree a roll back is good. I bought about 500 shards when the problem occured n countless runes. Not complainin on a rollback.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fates Monk
Can anyone log in?
No. they are reversing the server/s, which may take a while.

deathdela

deathdela

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Playing Guild Wars and Getting [high]

W/R

if they can roll back why didnt they roll back last time there was a problem with the servers and prices went wrong

Bowman Artemis

Bowman Artemis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Gold Coast, Australia.

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

Quote:
Originally Posted by M C H A M M E R
If they can do mass server rollbacks then why not account rollbacks? I have a few friends that have deleted charactors because of lag, then to contact CS to find they can't roll them back...
Mass server rollback is easy, select one thing and roll it back. In this case a server. If they do it to one person, how many people do you think would be asking for account rollbacks? It would be abused.

Theos

Theos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

River Dancing

Eternal Treachery [TimE]

Me/E

You can't role back things that are/were on the consumer's side, in this case the characters. However you can roll back things that are based on consumer - server interactions, in other words anything you do IN the game. Prior to entering the game with a specific character you are running off your own computer and what it has loaded on it so deleting a character has nothing to do with ANet and the server.