[Merged] March 13 Update: Roll back to 1 PM Pacific, 21 GMT, officially announced

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

At least they updated the announcement page huh?

Bowman Artemis

Bowman Artemis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Gold Coast, Australia.

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

Quote:
is it that hard to make a rollback?????
When you have 4 millionish accounts * 4 characters = 16 million character's inventories, locations, skills, attributes, armor, weapons, mods, PvP or PvE, level, fame, faction and rank to load up, along with the storages, that's a lot to pull out of an archive. It is that hard.

[FnG] Lazz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Fun 'n' Games

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inureface
This rollback would've gone ALOT faster if so many people didn't try to exploit the bug.
Perhaps, but a lot of people probably didn't know it was a bug. If the prices had been deliberately reset, then surely it would have only been a matter of time till they were back to their usual cost, hence people probably decided to take advantage of it.

DJ Josh

DJ Josh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

i'm upset because of losing all my elites i was capping and have to cap again(yay for a few return trips to thk and snake dance).

overall i'm torn on the issue though.
i lose a couple of hours work because a bunch of idiots were exploiting a glitch that i had no part in.i now need to recap about 5 or 6 elites(boy am i happy that i never got to the ring of fire elites).more importantly,is the rollback gonna cause any other serious issues?.
but all the cheaters that thought they were now rich lose out.

maybe its just me but i would rather they just left it like last time and not make my gaming time a waste.they left it last time and let the cheats get rich on hoarding ecto(which i still blame my inability to get a good crys on,well that and the stupid prices poeple will buy them in RL)so whats different this time.

but a.net is the gw god so guess my wasted time means nothing to them.also feel realy sorry for those who have done stuff they have been trying to do for a long time(thk,ring of fire missions,all those that beat hells and thought they had finaly finished the game or finaly got a group to do the titan quests/sf quests).

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulch`
thats 11:30 eastern time, gg Anet....
YAY! only 10:30 CST!

I'll Be online @ 03:00 hours CST tomorrow Gaile. Meet me at LA...

I want to thank you a hundred fold Anet!

deathdela

deathdela

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Playing Guild Wars and Getting [high]

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inureface
This rollback would've gone ALOT faster if so many people didn't try to exploit the bug.
Yeah sure and if you was online and saw a price reset you wouldn't buy anything and "Exploit a bug"

pegasux

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

Quote:
Originally Posted by 96TSi
thats just prep for factions. look on the guildwars website and they will tel lyou all about that peasux
Yeah i thought it was at first but dang that's huge. I've downloaded over 200mb in the last week now this monster...lol. oh well as long as the game is fixed i'm happy. =)

Lichtenberg

Lichtenberg

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mass Delusion [LARP]

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Well Gaile u know this is bullshit u didnt reroll 6 months ago, when lots of peeps bought globs for 250g(or maybe u did to,so now u can reroll it). And btw did market crashed than?
This is all so pathetic.....
i think those other ones were intentional and would of know that if u took the time to read updates and this thread

abatage

abatage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Preston, UK

The Right Effect [REF]

E/Mo

I was the last person in HA (Euro) and was very confused when I pressed N and got "Your connection to the Friends Server has been disconnected." That was my first idea something was going wrong... then all the error messages, I was very confused, but I'm glad - I was playing too long =P

Thanks for the update, Firefly.

nitetime

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

eotn

W/

zpmg I just got back in and everything is FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!11

96TSi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Fort Worth

Clowns of Wrath[CoW]

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by pegasux
Yeah i thought it was at first but dang that's huge. I've downloaded over 200mb in the last week now this monster...lol. oh well as long as the game is fixed i'm happy. =)
yea it had me boggled for a bit too heh

but if thats what it takes to get the factions beta event rolling smoother, let the downloading begin!

halo8718

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/N

Go play wow... for those who feel sad now... u can buy ur perfect swords and best armor for only 100g there

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Anet must be pretty annoyed that ths blunder has occured at the heart of the Factions advertising campaign. Being honest though... i don't think it will put many people off buying Factions. Nobody's perfect and the rollback is the only realistic resolution. I just hope to nobody was dropped a nice gold crystalline after 9:00gmt - if so... don't jump, think of your loved ones >_<.



ps. mending ftw! ^ ^

Lord Snow

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Josh
i'm upset because of losing all my elites i was capping and have to cap again(yay for a few return trips to thk and snake dance).

overall i'm torn on the issue though.
i lose a couple of hours work because a bunch of idiots were exploiting a glitch that i had no part in.i now need to recap about 5 or 6 elites(boy am i happy that i never got to the ring of fire elites).more importantly,is the rollback gonna cause any other serious issues?.
but all the cheaters that thought they were now rich lose out.

maybe its just me but i would rather they just left it like last time and not make my gaming time a waste.they left it last time and let the cheats get rich on hoarding ecto(which i still blame my inability to get a good crys on,well that and the stupid prices poeple will buy them in RL)so whats different this time.

but a.net is the gw god so guess my wasted time means nothing to them.also feel realy sorry for those who have done stuff they have been trying to do for a long time(thk,ring of fire missions,all those that beat hells and thought they had finaly finished the game or finaly got a group to do the titan quests/sf quests).
Seriously, you say that as if everyone KNEW that it was a glitch.

I popped out of presearing and saw some guy in Ascalon trying to sell Sup. Vigors for 10k so obviously, I went to the trader to check the prices and saw that they were rock bottom.

What would YOU have done? If you could seriously resist buying even a couple Sup. runes or Obsidian Shards for 250g each, when you've spent your whole game life seeing them priced at 50-70k and 4-6k each, my hat's off to you; I'll happily admit that you're a more honest person than I am.

I started buying thinking that the traders had reset like it happened before, something that happened before I started playing but was told about by guildies and the like, so I started buying what I could.

When I realized that the prices for the items SHOULD be going up but weren't...at that point, it was more of a "in for a penny, in for a pound" theme going around my head.

Elena

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

this thing yust annoys me i can't get on gw at all roar!

and for the love i god hope rerolling means buying sup vigor at 250 means after reroll u don't have it anymore i mean fork (input lots of angry bad words here)

Angel Develin

Angel Develin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lions Arch

Minions of Kronos

N/Me

so what do we do next time Gaile Gray? let see who buys and who dont and w8 for you guys to see or you will set it back or not ? only if you guys were so good to stop bots and other shit that do more harm to the game then this things.
It's not like there is anything like aweapon or so that let you play the gaem better then others, the most ppl bought the material for the fow armor, can't see the problem, when you not only need shards but ecto and other material +70K

Static

Static

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

New York City

W/Mo

So the rollback should be over ata bout 8:30 Eastern time?

Diluant De Peau

Diluant De Peau

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Shadow of Lust [SoL]

W/N

well i bought enough sup runs for all my characters...as i have all the fissure I need. i did buy shards for a friend that needed his to finish his set...oh well...

It indeed looked like a reset...as the healing rune was still like 11-17k..and ecto was 6-7k....I think anet should have left it alone...and said "our bad"...the last reset screwed up the economy for what..a week..then it was back to normal...

Hope no one loses their job over this blunder...but comeon now...test these things before you push a bloody patch out...simple playtesting and development time would find many of these bugs that pop up after an update...as in after every update...they push 1-3 more out to fix things...

Kurushio

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

How long is it expected to last to reset the server?..... Just completed Thunderhead at like 10pm GMT ... bummer

Hemophiliac

Hemophiliac

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by deathdela
yeah but the devs have got a lot to answer to cause the last reset they didnt roll back why as people previously mentioned purposely so doesnt that make the game unbalanced cause all them people that was lucky enough to be there all have millions
The last (first reset) was done on purpose, it was to stabilize the GW economy, they did that by making all merchants in all districts (America / Europe / Korea / ect.) in line with each other(stopped people from buying in one conutry's district and selling in another). By reseting the prices on everything they brought all the traders into one category so if you buy something playing in the Europe server it will affect the prices in the other servers and yadda yadda. The dev's have nothing to answer as they let us know this already. I just wish I wasn't at work when it went down the first time.

This time they are fixing it as it was a mistake and would destroy the economy that they stabilized.

Hemophiliac

Hemophiliac

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by deathdela
yeah but the devs have got a lot to answer to cause the last reset they didnt roll back why as people previously mentioned purposely so doesnt that make the game unbalanced cause all them people that was lucky enough to be there all have millions
The last (first reset) was done on purpose, it was to stabilize the GW economy, they did that by making all merchants in all districts (America / Europe / Korea / ect.) in line with each other(stopped people from buying in one conutry's district and selling in another). By reseting the prices on everything they brought all the traders into one category so if you buy something playing in the Europe server it will affect the prices in the other servers and yadda yadda. The dev's have nothing to answer as they let us know this already. I just wish I wasn't at work when it went down the first time.

This time they are fixing it as it was a mistake and would destroy the economy that they stabilized.

pah01

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Liverpool

Mo/

A whole four hours I got to wait to play the game but at least I am finally going to leave my game at the login screen so I can get the update.

However can someone please explain this to me.

Lat time there was an intentional reset can anyone explain to me the logic of that. Well only why that price reset was going to be beneficial to the economy of the game. I am not an economics genius. I know some people who got rich last time of that reset.

In similar terms can it also be explained to me why this particular unplanned reset is going to be so destructive to the economy.

Why beneficial the first time and destructive the second time is all I am asking. All I have maybe lost is selling some of my parchement a bit of gold maybe and 1 fame only gained in heroes before we got net error 13.

I really feel sorry for those who gained some awesome drop in FOW/UW or perhaps a real sup absorb did drop for some people.

Paul

JiggyFly

JiggyFly

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

So-Cal

Forsaken Wanderers [FW]

Mo/

Yet another reason why installing a "price reset" button into your mmorpgs mainframe is not a good idea. Either that or someones mistake is about to get them very fired, very quickly.

At least now I get to do an interesting experiment I had a bunch of gold Ettin pauldrons before the chaos started, and I Identified them all and got rid of the crappy ones to make room during the update. So if the game is rolled back and I identify them again will I get the same runes? hmmm..

The rollback is needed as last time prices reset the prices actually increased as more and more players bought the items, but I think the Guild Wars economy could have survived without the reset since I believe a large portion of the money gained from the glitch would be used for fissure/factions armor thus taking it out of the economy anyways.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Since the site is being hit by thousands of users all at the same time, you can also feel free to join us in our IRC server to talk guild wars:

Server: irc.gamesurge.net
Channel: #guildwarsguru

Zaxan Razor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Organised Spam [OS]

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Sigh, guru is really buggy today too..

I just got a perfect gold shadow blade from FoW, oh well :S

But, this time was an accident, obviously, and when millions of morons buy everything that they can possible keep..then, about 50% of the population would have FoW armor, Sup Absorption, crafting materials etc.

Re-rolling is the only thing they could do, and i applaud them for it.

I will regret never getting to use my sword tho :-(

Formina

Formina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Slash Fail [ftl]

E/

I'm still in Guild Wars, in Lions Arch American District 13. Should I log off or stay in? O_o;

SziP

SziP

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Me/

trapped in the cyber-space!!!!! ^^

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Does anyone know when are they going to let us back into the game?

PS yay SziP, is that what i think it is on your avatar or I just really need a gf?

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

Gaile reponded on http://photics.com/ saying that they donot know when it will be back up.
http://forum.photics.com/viewtopic.php?id=1094&p=4

DanielAborg

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ira Blinks
PS yay SziP, is that what i think it is on your avatar or I just really need a gf?
Both dude, both.

brave bill

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

requiem lords

W/Mo

is this rollback just going to affect pve or are we going to be losing gvg battle that we won and fame we earned these are 2 seperate sides of game can they fix 1 without changing the other ????

DJ Josh

DJ Josh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

so lasttime was intentional?.so what you are all saying is last time they ment to make people rich from all the ecto they bought up and others lose money from the monk runes they had just found.

last time i was in la when people started going crazy about the traders and never felt the need to join in.this time i was in rankor and saw players selling sup abs and vigor for 10k each and thought to myself "ah another trade reset no doubt" while quickly getting back out to snakes to find the elem or monk griffon.most will flame me as a lier but i have no interest in cheating and a sudden price crash,to me at least,is an obvious sign of a balls up with the traders and there for i will not join in with the,IMHO,cheating.same reason i have played through the whole game 4 times with out being ran anywhere or through any missions.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by brave bill
is this rollback just going to affect pve or are we going to be losing gvg battle that we won and fame we earned these are 2 seperate sides of game can they fix 1 without changing the other ????
everything

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

From Gaile Gray: Thank you for your patience as we work to resolve the issue with the trader reset. We wanted to let you know that the game will be accessible at about 8:30 p.m. PST tonight (4:30 GMT). It will take us that period of time to do the rollback and to assure that all is in proper working order.

Please be aware that we are very sensitive to the fact that rollbacks are not a player-pleasing thing. I remember being involved with a game that had a one-week rollback a few years ago. We know that for the player who has completed a mission, or who has acquired a special drop, this is particularly irritating. For those who didn't exploit the accidental reader reset, it's particularly regretable that we must do a roll-back. But truly, it must be done. It must be done for the good of the game, and for the maintenance in value of all that you have acquired. It must be done in the interests of partity and balance and, well, all that's right and fair.

We're very sorry, and we'll see you later this evening, in the game, with all set right in the game world. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Cerulean Niteshadow

Cerulean Niteshadow

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Colorado

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Well I to was shocked. I didnt even know there was a problem until I was at a VERY busy Rare Materials Trader selling some Vellum. I occasionally check to see what Ecto & such are going for and noticed the prices of shards & gems. I too did grab a few, but by the time I got to storage and back he was out.

At first I was upset that I wasnt able to get more. Now I have NEVER sold anything to anyone. I was hoping to get them (especially the gems) in case they are needed in Factions. After this I tried to go to another town and found it was blocked.

This is when the lock down started. When I first heard the rumor about a reset of the game to a few hours before I to was upset. All of my work up to that point will be lost, but then reality set in.

This is just a game. Yes I put in the time but I can do things again. No I might not get the same drops, but who knows, maybe they will be better!

As for as everyone saying this is unfair, well I say to bad. What did you think GW would do when they became aware of the problem? Oh I know some of you if asked by GW to just give the items back would have done so, but there are those who with the temptation to make a quick buck would have held out to try and sell the items.

I am sure that all of you who are complaining that it is not fair to lose these "cheap" items have NEVER made a mistake. No one is perfect. I hope whoever or whatever happened doe NOT cost anyone a job. People are human, mistakes WILL happen. I do no think that this mistake has physically harmed anyone.

Again, just deal with it. ANET has done an OUTSTANDING job and being they are run by real humans then a mistake or two will happen.

ANET keep up the GREAT work and thanks for the rollback!

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lord_shar
I got stuck just outside North Kryta... now I can't log in with any characters.
Everyone got stuck... rolling back time cuz of trader glitch, never thought it was possible, reversing time?? wow technology sure has advanced

12:30 EST boohoo

Allanon Dark

Allanon Dark

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Ah well, was hoping to get some cheap ectos and shards but I guess that won't be happening. Sheesh, I missed the first econ. reset by an hour and now this one too. Just my luck.

SziP

SziP

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ira Blinks
Does anyone know when are they going to let us back into the game?

PS yay SziP, is that what i think it is on your avatar or I just really need a gf?
Hehe, mate i dont know, its a picture of something thats really HOT!!! and i like it.

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

According to the login screen the game will be out untill 8:30Pst thats 11:30Pm Est

Hysteria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

I was in game during the "accidental " reset and yes I did start purchasing large amounts of items. I agree with the reset as it was accidental but I am a bit offended being labled an exploiter. The same thing was done a while back and it was legitimate and I seen nothing that showed me this one was any different. I was starting to think a biannual reset might have been taking place. My apologies Anet. Perhaps in the future a general heads up by Anet relating to any possible market changes would be wise.