[Merged] March 13 Update: Roll back to 1 PM Pacific, 21 GMT, officially announced
master_ranger_matt
so does that mean that all my items and cash will be gone? I wish i could have been there, i was just about to buy some superior vigors as an investment for when the new players doing chapter 2 come...
Cowboy Nastyman
servers are down til 8 30 pacific for a rollback gonna ahve to wait like everyone else
VampiricuS
My Necro had a cute ele kneeling in my groin area at the time.... Good thing there is a rollback, it really wasnt worth it. Plus I dont want my gf to know I was with another ele :P
Star Alfur
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Originally Posted by Phaern Majes
Anything obtained before 1 pm Pacific, should still be in your possession.
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Retribution X
Nothing that was on your account at 20:00 GMT will be missing!
This is stated by Gaile Gray.
This is stated by Gaile Gray.
stickyballs
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Originally Posted by The Phantom
The reset was a major thing. When someone says "Superior Vigor and Absortion, along with shards are at 250g at the traders" I find it hard to believe that people would just say "Oh, that's nice." And continue playing. I guarentee you that nearly everyone who was on during this time period that new about the prices were at the traders buying all they could. While yes, if not for the rollback the economy would have been ruined for a very long time, it is natural that we want to get rich quick. And what better way than to buy low and sell high? I do not agree with your theory that everyone lacked self control when this exploit appeared. If someone in real life offered you a mansion for 50 bucks I bet you'd buy it. Same goes with Guild Wars. You'r offered amazing deals and since many thought it was just another price reset to help the economy, what would be wrong with taking that great deal?
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Caldec
i got one thing to say to alot of you saying i lost this in that two hours i lost that in that two hours think about how many people play this game and i dont personally think A-Net give a damn about what you lost when if they dont rollback it harms alot more people than it helps
Phaern Majes
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Originally Posted by Phoenix_
Moves like this makes it seem anet is for the countless korean farmers who make real money off this game off of ebay. What would happen if things were to be left the same... a lot more people with fow armor that they got considerably cheaper... and thats about it. Wasnt this game supposed to not be the grind and contant farming found in other mmorpg's. The impact would hurt those farmers because what they spend countless hours on would be worth nada. Looks like a whole lot of bad publicity right b4 factions.. not a good sign of things to come IMO
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Shadowspawn X
This incident has been unfortunate, but we can get though this if the glitches and mistakes come to a halt.There has beeen a constant barrage of technical issues lately, ranging from global lagging to four or five people in a party being disconnected and now this fiasco. I am willing to continue to support Anet because they have been providing a great gaming experience to me for many months. To Anet I say get your stuff together and stop jacking with the game unnecessarily(ie .. the dum change to skill traders which serves no purpose). To everyone else I say cut them some slack regardless of the outcome of the rollback we all had hundreds of hours of fun and will continue to do so in the future so no need to abandon ship, cause they are doing their best.
96TSi
they decided to leave the game down untill people learned to look at stickied threads, read the announcement on the mainpage, or use the forum search feature.
its kinda like a bank heist. they will not give up until their demands are met
its kinda like a bank heist. they will not give up until their demands are met
awelcomecomatose
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Originally Posted by Phoenix_
Moves like this makes it seem anet is for the countless korean farmers who make real money off this game off of ebay. What would happen if things were to be left the same... a lot more people with fow armor that they got considerably cheaper... and thats about it. Wasnt this game supposed to not be the grind and contant farming found in other mmorpg's. The impact would hurt those farmers because what they spend countless hours on would be worth nada. Looks like a whole lot of bad publicity right b4 factions.. not a good sign of things to come IMO
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theVariable
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Originally Posted by The Phantom
If someone in real life offered you a mansion for 50 bucks I bet you'd buy it. Same goes with Guild Wars. You'r offered amazing deals and since many thought it was just another price reset to help the economy, what would be wrong with taking that great deal?
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And secondly, the other price reset you are referring to was not intentional and thus was not a way to help the economy. They updated the code for the merchants. The price reset was a mistake and what followed did not benefit the economy.
I would also like to clarify something. I am mainly referring to the the people who tried to stock pile goods in order to sell them later at a much higher margin. If you simply bought for your use, that's far less of an issue.
Rilder
I hope i didnt lose the Elite skills i capped around that time...
ok i admit a bought a couple sup absorb, but they were only for me and a friend since were so poor in this game and have a better chance of winning the lottery then getting a superior absorb
ok i admit a bought a couple sup absorb, but they were only for me and a friend since were so poor in this game and have a better chance of winning the lottery then getting a superior absorb
Richie
What time mountain-wise can we log in? Also, its quite simple......if you bought an item, you get your money back so just buy it again, if you bought everything 250g you get full refund and if you farmed a nice weapon or shield or rune, i feel bad but i dont want a bunch of 30 year old whining that their items are being taken away.
Sciros Darkblade
Wow, this is a pretty big deal ^_^ but it's being handled the only way it can. To let another trader reset pass would be horrible.
I'm glad I missed it all, because I'd have been pretty confused about what to do had I been online at the time. Lab practical due dates FTW!
It sucks that so many people had a bit of their play time go to waste. Really does. But, the last thing ANet would want is a massive blow to the in-game economy so close to the release of Factions. I actually think it's pretty badass to have responded as quickly and decisively as they did.
I'm glad I missed it all, because I'd have been pretty confused about what to do had I been online at the time. Lab practical due dates FTW!
It sucks that so many people had a bit of their play time go to waste. Really does. But, the last thing ANet would want is a massive blow to the in-game economy so close to the release of Factions. I actually think it's pretty badass to have responded as quickly and decisively as they did.
Rayne Nightfyre
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Originally Posted by Phoenix_
Looks like a whole lot of bad publicity right b4 factions.. not a good sign of things to come IMO
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Edit: [removal of flame bait, due to being misinformed] Sorry again, lol.
AeroLion
For the people complaining about what happened six months ago, Gaile has already replied to that. In addition, prices were reset at that point but quickly increased as more and more players bought items so as to, eventually, have the price match the demand.
This did not happen this time as prices were frozen no matter how much people bought.
This is completely untrue. You only have access to skills you have already unlocked over your account at skill trainers, not including elites. This is honestly something I wish was in the game from the very beginning as I may not have deleted my PVE Ele if I wasn't restricted to the utterly boring Fire spells in the beginning...even if I did have to pay for the skills.
This did not happen this time as prices were frozen no matter how much people bought.
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Mercury Angel
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I have to say, though, that if I had been in the game and seen those prices, my first thought would have been to check the website and when I didn't see major news about an intended change to the game economy, or an overall financial reset, I would have figured something just wasn't right.
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How often does ArenaNet post up the information for new patches in advance? Almost never. When they do, it's the exception, rather than the general rule.
Sometimes, new build downloads come a half hour to a full hour before the update notes are actually up on the website, though it's rarely THAT long. The very first thing I did before splurging on items was to check the website, and the first thought in my mind when no info was up was that Anet would stick the notes up later. As I said, it seems to be the SOP.
Now, if there were a history of having the update information on the website ahead of time consistently, and accurately, containing all or most of the update notes (with addendums included later on when unlisted changes are discovered by players, such as the description change to Swirling Aura), I'd agree. But that's simply not the case. People are used to being in the dark for a while, and even afterwards, not getting the whole story, whether it's meant to be that way or not.
Negatives aside, while for people trying to play the game, the lockdown is a pain [Personally, if it weren't for the issues going on today, I'd be trying to PvP. My connection seems stable today.], comparitively to other games I've played, this is actually a fairly prompt response time, and the downtime is reasonable. Whatever else I might have to say about Anet that isn't all sunshine and roses, ArenaNet is a fairly reliable company with good service, and a genuine interest in keeping their game top notch. For that, I say kudos; You're still #1 in my books.
fog_of_redoubt
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Originally Posted by Richie
What time mountain-wise can we log in? Also, its quite simple......if you bought an item, you get your money back so just buy it again, if you bought everything 250g you get full refund and if you farmed a nice weapon or shield or rune, i feel bad but i dont want a bunch of 30 year old whining that their items are being taken away.
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Thom
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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X
This incident has been unfortunate, but we can get though this if the glitches and mistakes come to a halt.There has beeen a constant barrage of technical issues lately, ranging from global lagging to four or five people in a party being disconnected and now this fiasco. I am willing to continue to support Anet because they have been providing a great gaming experience to me for many months. To Anet I say get your stuff together and stop jacking with the game unnecessarily(ie .. the dum change to skill traders which serves no purpose). To everyone else I say cut them some slack regardless of the outcome of the rollback we all had hundreds of hours of fun and will continue to do so in the future so no need to abandon ship, cause they are doing their best.
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The Commodore
Just charmed a lvl 16 pet in pre.. waited 11 hours.. id be pretty pissed it it didnt stay 
Theos
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Originally Posted by rayne2550
I agree with you, my faith in A-Net has unfortunately been damaged recently(although it is reassuring they have the ability of system restore). I don't know if today was the result of hackers or not, but I've never seen anything like this, and I've been playing since May. This kind of thing doesn't happen in GW normally.
But the number one thing that honestly makes me question A-Net's motives is the new update where every skill trainer in the game has all skills available. Yeah, skill points are still a factor, but doesn't that completely take the whole idea of gradual progressing out of the game? I mean there's no surprises for new players, they have access to every skill right when they hit Post-Searing Ascalon. So that has me rather annoyed, I suppose. No clue how this will relate to the PvE in Factions, but this whole thing about all skill trainers having all skills better not show up there. |
awesome sauce
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Phaern Majes
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Originally Posted by fog_of_redoubt
You dont know the difference between Mountain time and Pacific time? Or have anyway to figure it out short of asking here?
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For whoever asked Mountain time is +1 hour ahead of Pacific time so you're looking at 9:30 pm. Anyone else wanting to know Central is +2 hours ahead of Pacific and Eastern (you guessed it) +3.
FoMoCoStang
All the running...... The money...... :/
At least its getting fixed..
At least its getting fixed..
Rayne Nightfyre
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Originally Posted by Theos
You do realise that it is only skills you have unloacked right? This is also not really enw, if you want to complain go back to BWE when ascalon skill trainer had late game skills... in ascalon. I don't see how you can have lost any faith in GW when this is the first major problem since... well release. Try wow for fun downtime every 24 hours.
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Whoops, sorry...looks like our guild was misinformed.
I guess that was a result of most of us having several finished characters, and already having all of our skills unlocked. So it looked like the trainers were all like the one in Ember Light Camp. Again sorry, thanks for clearing that up.
Retribution X
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Originally Posted by Mercury Angel
Whatever else I might have to say about Anet that isn't all sunshine and roses, ArenaNet is a fairly reliable company with good service, and a genuine interest in keeping their game top notch. For that, I say kudos; You're still #1 in my books.
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They're still #1 in my books too.
stickyballs
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Originally Posted by rayne2550
But the number one thing that honestly makes me question A-Net's motives is the new update where every skill trainer in the game has all skills available. Yeah, skill points are still a factor, but doesn't that completely take the whole idea of gradual progressing out of the game? I mean there's no surprises for new players, they have access to every skill right when they hit Post-Searing Ascalon. So that has me rather annoyed, I suppose. No clue how this will relate to the PvE in Factions, but this whole thing about all skill trainers having all skills better not show up there.
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*bit off-topic sorry, but it annoys me because I see this CONSTANTLY!
EDIT: Theos beat me to it, nice job.
VampiricuS
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Originally Posted by Mared Text
Lol you guys talk about a "ruined economy" like gw actually has an economy and your worried about feeding your kids or something. Seriously, get a grip.
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Getting a grip is not really a comment that is called for here, but knowing that Anet is forced to resort to a rollback, will save the (real life simulated economy) leaves hope for us who get excited when a glob of ecto has their name on it on the floor.
Novalon
Haven't other MMOs had things like this happen? I'm not at all shocked, nor am I upset by what Arena Net is doing. If people did not exploit the obvious glitch, we wouldn't be sitting here waiting to log back on.
Those of you who actually did something else... well, blame the idiots who went crazy at the traders, it's their fault. For people who are angered, remember how far that monthly payment of yours is going... oh, that's right, you don't have to pay one.
Honestly, with all the code that goes into this game, I can expect a few bugs. Most things I code have bugs, and I haven't coded anything to the massive scale that they have put into Guild Wars.
To those of you who are selling your accounts because of this problem... well, during this time I'm not doing much else, so I'll be happy to get your auctions shut down.
Like I tell a beaten IWAY group, go ahead and /ragequit.
Those of you who actually did something else... well, blame the idiots who went crazy at the traders, it's their fault. For people who are angered, remember how far that monthly payment of yours is going... oh, that's right, you don't have to pay one.
Honestly, with all the code that goes into this game, I can expect a few bugs. Most things I code have bugs, and I haven't coded anything to the massive scale that they have put into Guild Wars.
To those of you who are selling your accounts because of this problem... well, during this time I'm not doing much else, so I'll be happy to get your auctions shut down.
Like I tell a beaten IWAY group, go ahead and /ragequit.
hideto
A quick recap of everythin for ppl that just came in to post.
1.) Server rollback will occur. Everything ingame will remain the same from the point of 1pm PST (west coast US), 9pm GMT (U.K time) and bfore that. So basically everything you have done after those time above will basically be undone, include trades,missions or anything at all.
2.) As noted on the login screen, game will be accessible *POSSIBLY/ESTIMATED* at PST 8:30pm (US West coast time), 4:30am GMT (U.K Time). So those ppl whose still wondering when they can login, read this.
So guys, just be patient and let ANET handle this. Everyone probably tried to cash in on it, i did, but i aint complaining anyways.
I'm just wondering whether that Yakslapper and Garbok's Chalice i sold for 5k together would remain in my inventory, if it is, i'm pissed, took me ages to get rid of it LOL.
ps : not intended to be rude or anything, just a quick reminder
1.) Server rollback will occur. Everything ingame will remain the same from the point of 1pm PST (west coast US), 9pm GMT (U.K time) and bfore that. So basically everything you have done after those time above will basically be undone, include trades,missions or anything at all.
2.) As noted on the login screen, game will be accessible *POSSIBLY/ESTIMATED* at PST 8:30pm (US West coast time), 4:30am GMT (U.K Time). So those ppl whose still wondering when they can login, read this.
So guys, just be patient and let ANET handle this. Everyone probably tried to cash in on it, i did, but i aint complaining anyways.
I'm just wondering whether that Yakslapper and Garbok's Chalice i sold for 5k together would remain in my inventory, if it is, i'm pissed, took me ages to get rid of it LOL.
ps : not intended to be rude or anything, just a quick reminder
fog_of_redoubt
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Originally Posted by Phaern Majes
You have nothing better to do than be an ass to people? You seem to forget that quite afew GW players are quite young, and don't know the difference in time zones. Most likely because they haven't been subjected to them.
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It is too easy for people to ask someone to solve a problem for them. A little research would have solved his problem, but no... might as well let someone else just tell them.
Joh
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Originally Posted by Transluecent51
Gaile, I wanna know why you have to come forward to tell us sorry and its getting fixed. We all know you didnt screw with the merchant system but you have to seem like the bad person in all this.
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Gaile Gray, Community Relations Manager, is a writer whose recent projects include the Diabloii.net and WarCraftiii.net websites, as well as producing content for several other websites, freelance publishing clients and game companies. In addition to writing for ArenaNet, Gaile coordinates our Alpha and Beta Tests and manages our websites, forums, and fan communications.
What I wonder more though is why some people seem to blame Gaile. Someone earlier in this thread said "Good going Gaile..." and more people complain directly at her. Does Community Relations Manager sound like Server Crasher to you?
Phaern Majes
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Originally Posted by VampiricuS
Actually it IS a big deal, a "ruined economy" would make the game no longer enjoyable. it simulates as close as possible (one reason due to how people are in real life) to real life economy. In say 5 months time during which you were enjoying the game you collect about 20 ectos (just as an example) and you know you have some security knowing that they are currently worth 7k ea (140,000gold) and suddenly was worth 250 if that, you would be pissed as well.
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Rayne Nightfyre
Again sorry. I took several friends' word for what the update involved, not checking into it myself, thinking they had it right obviously. My apologies. (referring to Stickyball's borderline flame)
ideologue
awww I completely missed this -_-
Just like last time i missed it when they reset the prices of runes while my friends were buying loads of sup monk, sup fire, sup vig runes off the trader.
Just like last time i missed it when they reset the prices of runes while my friends were buying loads of sup monk, sup fire, sup vig runes off the trader.
Narutoscryed
In the end. The final word is the fact that if they had let this happen a second time. the economy would be destroyed. The first price reset made a very limited ammount of people rich because of the small(in comparison) numbers of people playing compared to today. In all it did not have that huge of an impact then.
If people were to be allowed to keep the items they had purchased today. then EVERYONE would be rolling around in fissure armor. and that would kill the game.
Hearing all the people complain about this price reset makes me smile. For one they are all lazy and have no clue what it could to to the game (For example ruin it). And they expect to get rich quick and get the best stuff. when people spent over a million dollars to get the fissure they wanted. I myself have saved 84 ecto and 44 shards. and if they had allowed the price reset. i would have stopped playing alltogether.
so in the end. It was not christmas they took away from you people crying out there. They saved your ass from the end of the world.
And i would personnally like to thank a-net for saving this great game
If people were to be allowed to keep the items they had purchased today. then EVERYONE would be rolling around in fissure armor. and that would kill the game.
Hearing all the people complain about this price reset makes me smile. For one they are all lazy and have no clue what it could to to the game (For example ruin it). And they expect to get rich quick and get the best stuff. when people spent over a million dollars to get the fissure they wanted. I myself have saved 84 ecto and 44 shards. and if they had allowed the price reset. i would have stopped playing alltogether.
so in the end. It was not christmas they took away from you people crying out there. They saved your ass from the end of the world.
And i would personnally like to thank a-net for saving this great game
Lint
I Can't Log On? Its been past 8:30 and it says something about cannat do operation.
awesome sauce
Well... at least GWG is profiting off it. Last I checked over 6000 people online. A new world record!!!!!!!!!!I dont think even some of the major websites like cnn.com get that many people
Phaern Majes
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I know several young players. I have several nephews playing this game and if one of them was lazy enough to ask that question I would have responded the same way.
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