Petition: More character creation room

Ok ok. Heres the thing though. You take your 4 charachter slots... lets say ANet has to pay.. 2 dollars a charachter (thats just a example number) for storing that chrachter. You double that to 8 charachters. That is now 2 times as much as what they were paying before. This is supposed to be a free game, so clearly they cannot just double everyones alotted space just so that you can have one of every single class. As a business thats already going to progressively lose money (due to constant update requirements and no necesary monthly fee) and make them double what they are giving you. That doesnt make sense to them and shouldnt make sense to you. No matter how many people agree, you cant just think "I want more!". You have to ask "Can ANet give me more?" And thats a big no. If they keep giving more and more they wont be able to maintain what they are producing.. good luck upping the charachter slots to 6 or even 8, but i can guarantee you its not going to happen.

Not signed. Have to carefully choose the setup of my 3 rp characters was fun, and sets everyones accounts apart from one another.

Account sharing is a very good idea though, I'd just be afraid to see it abused by guilds who share accounts to unlock skills faster. Allow them to be linked, but at the cost of having only one online at a time?

$50 for those 4 character spots...and it came with a free video game. Cut away...Cut away....

straight up quit complaining 4 is enough until they release more professions then MAYBE 1 more would be needed but still i have 3 RP and 1 PvP, a pvp char isn't anything big to loose, just delete it as you please and make a new one

This is not a free game. I cannot fathom what makes people keep saying that.

I paid my money for this game, just like a lot of other games: Neverwinter Nights, MechCommander, etc.

I have no problem with many of the arguments here, but it's absurd for anyone to be saying that this is a free game.

Sure, they've decided they can deal with the maintenance by having expansions often enough, but that's their business model. They did not make a free game. There are lots of free games, this just isn't one of them.

I'll take that bet I think that given that people are willing to pay for slots, they have almost no way NOT to expand them on a $/slot basis. Money for slots is a fine deal, they don't need to work on content for the money, essentially it brings in more money from an existing game, which is always a good thing for the software developers. They know how much a slot costs them to operate, they can mark it up by whatever factor they want, sell expansion slots and bring in money for work on the next chapter...

Ok. Sounds great. Take my bet. But the point that I was trying to make before you obvioulsy missunderstood me was that they werent going to up it to 6-8, which, you know, is the topic of this thread. Your talking about PAYING for more slots.. which is a completely different idea. Paying for more slots is a completely logical idea. But, i would suggest to you, to be prepared to pay about 30 dollars for 4 more charachter slots. Why? Because the one good point you made is that they are a business that is out to make money... and your all just showing them that your desperate for more. ^_^

Also, just thought i would mention to JoDiamonds that Luna was trying to make that point that if you pay for 4 characther slots then you must not be paying for the game.. not that the game was free. But im glad to see her slightly twisted words were enough to confuse you.

Personally I think 4 slots are fine, there is not enough item storage room for 4 characters at the moment let alone 6 or 8...

Ah, if you are saying that they won't bump up slots for free, I would have to agree. They arrived at this number through a great deal of thought I would imagine. As to what the subject is here, it is slots, but since many of the posts explain that they would pay for the slots I don't think I was misunderstanding the thread.

I wouldn't expect them to provide more for free. I'd pay for slots - 30$ is a lot, I was thinking more 20$ for 4 additional slots, but it's a profit thing - if they set it to high they won't get the volume needed for a maximum profit, if they set it to low they won't benefit much from it as they'll saturate the extra slots market at low profits. We'll see though - the demand is there, it's feasable and will generate money, so my guess is that we'll see it, and probably not too far off.

For all we know it has already been coded and they just need the distribution system (pre-order style boxes? Special cards with a code printed on them? Internet sales? red tape slows all this stuff down...).

I'll sign this. The very first thing I thought after getting the game and trying to make one of every class was, "What!? They only give you four character slots?!"

We ought to have six at minimum, and eight ideally.

Agreed I want to pvp but I can't because I need to use three slots to unlock skills and one for mule(whole other problem). I would like to atleast have one more added but six or eight would be more fun.

/sign

I am more than happy to buy a second box to get four more characters. I have the money, I have the desire. What I don't have is the ability.

If I buy a second box, I'll have to create a second account. The characters won't be a part of my guild (unless I use two slots in the guild's limited membership roster), they won't be able to access the shared storage, etc. I don't want a second, separate account. I want four more character slots.

All you need to do is give me the ability to enter a second retail key into my account info page to unlock four more slots. Do that, and you'll have my $50 within a few minutes (assuming PlayNC.com can give me a second key that quickly).

I have the money, ArenaNet, and I so want to spend it. I just need that one feature, and you'll get double the money from me and people like me who play this game. Heck, maybe even more...

If they increase the number from 4 to say 8 then when the next expansion comes out with more classes/races, then everyone's going to say "8 is not enough! We need at least 12 or 16 because they added so many more cool classes and besides I don't wanna delete my old characters!" lol So I stay wait till more classes come in the next expansion.

/not signing yet

For what little it's worth, I wasn't responding to Luna.

There are many people all over this forum and others who talk about how GuildWars is "free" or "this free game" etc.

I don't believe we'll need those character slots. If the PvP truly evens out unlocking skills, runes, etc, then we should be able to cut down on the number of slots we use.

I do need these character slots! I have 4 chars now, and I would like to play a primary monk! I will not delete a character, which I played for more than 100 hours!

/signed

the more the merrier, or give an option of PvP chars in post-ascention Pve areas?

/signed, six would be great

/agree

Talesin

/signed

>> OR EVEN REDUCE TO 1 CHAR AHAHAH like that pll will try to learn how to play instead of switching everytime they lose.... <<

I'd just say, keep it at 4. At least your not paying a monthly fee, so technically. I'd just say.. be happy with what we have right now.. its only been 2-3 month since the release of the full game. Maybe if you cough up a bit more for the expansion, we might just get more slots for our characters ^_^ then again.... I wouldn't mind having 6 slots =P

/signed

6 would be good but I would rather see more slots in the Storage for my inventory...

play it smart and use your 4 slots wisely is my advice, make sure all professions are covert in 3 characters since there are 6 professions do the math it works out perfectly

= )

Somehow i dont think its been coded. Assuming that isnt very safe at all. Whats safter to assume is that its an idea. Also, i dont think 20 would satisfy. 30 is more appropriate considering its like buying another copy of the game. Also, just because people got off topic doesnt mean you should get off topic too. And then try to make a point using your off topicness. The end.

i did the math.

4 character slots minus 6 primary professions characters = negative 2


thanks for clearing that up for us. genus!

p.s. i like my two accounts. now just wish there was someway to move items and unlock things on both of them at the same time

I would like to be able to have three chars that are pve (each covering 2 classes for skill unlock) and still have more than one pvp char at a time. 4 slots is definately not enough. 6 would give me 3 PvE unlocking chars and 3 slots with which to work with pvp builds. Not unreasonable at all.

Please, if you need more charicters to spend 100-200 hours on finishing the game, you either need to move out of you parents house, go to school, or try spending the possible 800 hours completing the game with four charicters.

erm? ok dood... my parents are dead. i'm done with school. and it only too me around 30 hours max to finish off my first character. that was playing a lot of quests.



bad ASSumption bro. read the other posts. nobody mentioned they wanted 2 more characters to keep them busy for 200 more hours.

WTB more char slots!

20R/Mo
20W/Mo
20Mo/N
20E/Me
20R/Mo(deleted)
20N/E(deleted)

/sign petition
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this is a really good explanation but i have just a few tweeks 2 it... uve prolly seen me complaining about how botters and farmers and not wrong at all.. but see my point is ppl use there own time. 2 make money off of a game. hell i dont sit here for hours day in and out playing but ppl hoo can make money off it great i see ppl selling thousands of gold on ebay and good for them they spend there hard earned time here 2 make a profit out of it i think its pretty decent.. but having 8 characters instead of 8 is not gunna attract more ppl 2 macro or w.e. its not gunna make a difference arena.net did a great thing of making us not pay for a good game but 4 characters is a little 2 low u should have room for atleast 1 of each character "primary " 6 would be a nice amount becuz look at diablo 2 u can have 8 characters and its also free? so i dont see why not on this game aswell

/signed

Snipe Kan

If someone asked me how many classes there are in GW, I would say that there are 30. W/N plays different from W/Mo, which plays different from N/W and Mo/W. You are only focusing on your primary profession and not taking into consideration that that secondary profession in combination with your primary profession yields the class you play.

Now I never said my solution was perfect, but you can play more than just 4 characters if you think about it.

-TJ

/not signed
/disagree

One of the reasons the GW economy is in such bad shape right now is that the designers are trying to give everyone what they want, and so precious items are too prevalent, and semi-precious ones are consequently worthless. It IS possible to give too much of a good thing.

I'd like more characters too, but I'm perfectly happy to wait until the expansion to get them. I want Anet to do well financially (and therefore for this game to be around awhile), and the expansions are the economic plan which will make that feasible. Giving everyone what they want is not.

So relax, cool your jets, and make the most of the slots you have. Me, I have three dedicated characters, plus one that I restart continually and often use to create PvP characters of all builds. That one slot leaves a lot of versatility open.

How about if you buy a second copy of the game and add that additional key to your account it allows you 4 more character slots. You can already do this if you buy another copy but it would be nice to have all 8 or however many characters tied to one account. Also adding an aditional key could double your storage.

/sign

Arthur Varyag signs the petition!

/signed

6 would be ideal...you provide 6 professions after all!

This game isn't pay-to-play and I'd like to keep it that way. Future character slot expansions have been discussed by AN and Gaile has already stated that they indeed may end up as a game expansion feature. I don't blame any of you for not knowing this, but this is only the hundred-billionth thread on the subject. Hell, this is probably the hundred-billionth thread asking for a feature we have already had feedback on.

/NOT signed

Keep Guild Wars free!

Im definatly in on this

Ign: Why So Ez

Firstly, his characters may have 15k armor or better, or have very nice equipment customized for him.

Secondly, I highly doubt you unlocked all the skills with your 2 characters... getting one character to unlock two lines of skills (even when doing all the quests that give skill-rewards) is still tight, never mind doing 3 each

And of course, note that when you switch secondaries, its even harder to complete the new skill-line because you've already used up all the quest rewards, so thats wayy more skill points you will now need (even now the reduced number is 20,000xp per skill point)

So obviously you never intended to unlock all the skills, rather just the skills that you want without trying them all, but I doubt that ANet thinks that all players would want to unlock only some, like you.

I, like many other gamers, wish to experiment with all possible combinations. The only way to do this is to unlock all the skills. Fine, I'll play PvE to unlock them all, so that I can remake my PvP char at will with any skill.

Maybe I'll get a new account for more slots -- but not only does this have the problem of not being able to cross skills from one account to the other (ie monk unlocked on #1 and mesmer unlocked on #2, but I can't play mo/me on either one at all), but also my fame/rank will be split across two accounts which definitely is wrong.

Ok, I'll unlock with one account.

But for a while now this has forced me into a situation where I really only have 2 PvE chars, because 1 more slot is PvP-exclusive (you never know when somebody is forming a Tombs team and could use you in it instantly), and 1 more for unlocking.

One valid point is data-storage costs. But c'mon I massaged some numbers and think it would cost them pennies.

How much data is there to store? The overwhelming majority of data comes from the items they have in inventory (I'm sure theres a data-simplistic way of remembering how much of the world map is explored, and character looks would be about 4x5 bits so a maximum estimate would be 4 bytes -- not kilobytes)

Because they chose to make PvP char occupy a slot, 4 isn't enough.

Diablo 2 has 6 slots, Dark Age of Camelot has 6 slots per server (so playing on 2 or 3 different servers which was normal so that you could play among the 3 different realms) gives you 12 - 18 slots

I don't know about any other MMORPGs; I haven't played them.


I feel that ANet knows this and chose to leave us cramped as incentive to get the expansion -- Fine.

... but meanwhile I, as well as many other people, am stuck with insufficient slots with no viable solution at all.


/Signed
Fe Winds