Sick and Tired of the monk abuse

ive been in *many* pickup groups where
- party didnt care about how much energy the monk had
- party didnt care about splitting up (to their doom)

monk was the 1st to be blamed for deaths tho

it is an unfortunate and sad truth about being a monk and I do sympathise!

I feel though, if I die, because the monk doesnt have the energy, or Im out of reach.. or ive put myself in a silly situation... then, tbh, its my fault not the monks.

if the monk is under pressure.. and needs to concentrate of healing himself.. ive got to do everything to avoid damage, but sometimes you have to take a calculated risk!..

sometimes I take a calculated risk knowing full well that I might not have monk support, I may have to over extend, .. which may make or break!

I then get a bolocking from the monk... but im just like, chill out man, it doesnt matter.. I knew the risk, I sufferd!.. you did the right thing to not follow me and heal me, you did the right thing to stay back and heal the others..

sometimes monks are obsessed with keeping EVERYONE alive.. and over commit themselves, and then its the monks doing the abusing!

Guildwars isnt the unique this problem tho, nearly every game has this problem.

I so agree with you there notice how people only hate W/Mo just beacuse of the few people, W/mo are usually stupid and usless but some how im allways need in teams lol Got told yesturday in a Scrimmige 5 v 5 that W/Mo was useless was so funny them blinding me and then curing it then slashing them up to bits >= ) Not so useless now eh?

I never hold judgements on any character class only the person playing it...i've meet so many arse holes it's beyond belief...And to all people who say Noob the only "noob's" in the games are the ones that call people Noobs you take this piss outta people in game you lose end of story.

I do feel for monks, sometimes with my Ranger I just a bit carried away and charge into the next battle.

Really the only true solution is:

"A.NET ALLOW US TO SEE THE ENERGY OF TEAM MATES AND ALLIES!"

That is all.

Wouldnt help, because some elitists think that if the monk is low on energy, its normally their problem and they don't care.

When I monk in pve...I almost ALWAYS end the battle with half or more energy...Only when the battle drags out a long time does the energy start be a problem.


I think one thing Monks in pve have a problem with is being alittle overzealous in their healing, wasting energy. If their not dying, a simple Orison or something is fine...Don't have to try to spam 10 energy healing breezes and stuff.

In honesty, one of the main reasons people die under me, is they are getting constantly pounded on by some big baddy, and actting like its a normal day or something...I'm thinking too myself HEY SOFTIE ALLY, I CAN ONLY SPAM ORISON AND WORD/ETC ON YOU SO LONG BEFORE THOSE 2-3 BIG MELEE BADDIES POUNDING ON YOU OUT DAMAGE THE RECHARGES ON MY SPELLS.

In Dragon's Lair one time, we had 1 human monk, sually perfect for that mission if you aren't killing glint, we get in, and it seems really that his guy only had 2 skills I could see him using the whole time - Heal Party, and Healing Breeze.

Most battles went like this:
We aggro them
He uses 3-4 Heal Parties, then starts spamming "My Energy is 2 of 50" or whatever.
We self heal to finish that aggro group, and move on to the next, where the same thing happens.

I play my monk through the game second (first my tank, cuz i can run the map).
Anyway, hes done with Factions, so I only play certain areas with him (aka : hes always in one of 3 areas if Im not helping guildies or feel like helping new players on missions).
Some people have gotten used to me and recognize me. They invite me to their party. They know I have a VERY low tolerance for abuse and will give my last 5 energy to save them before I heal myself and run away. I also do not insult other players or call them noobs (especially if its their first time in some of these areas).
What most of these people that I play with, and keep getting reinvited, have learned the following :
After asking kindly that they stop insulting/abusing me with no effect. I stop healing that person. They die. Trust me, they get enough warnings.
If ANYONE ressurects that person. I leave. Simple, effective.
For those that have played Urgoz Warren, imagine what it feels like to be left for dead the room before Urgoz. Painful lesson, but somehow I think some of these people think twice about abusing their monks next time.
What seems to happen, is the other people in the party shrug, tell the person they should have listened and we move on, leaving their corpse behind.
I honestly believe everyone in GW should make 1 of each character class, and delete the ones they dont like, but at least play them. You do not know how hard or useful a class is till you have been one.
Along with Monk abuse is Mesmer ignorance in my book.
-done-

Sasquatch, I think the entire time my monk has played Prophecies she has only had one battery in the party, and that was late in the game! While it's nice to run as one of a pair of healers, it's just not always possible. She carries a +egy wand and a +27/-1 offhand but if the mission/quest looks to be short and sweet, Kephket's staff is a sweet alternative with it's 4 pips of regen and pretty sparklies . Energy management is up to me in the long run---but parties who understand this surely helps a lot!

Signet of Devotion goes a long way when regening that few points needed for more significant healing.

Breeze goes a long ways when someone's taking consistent damage (but not lethal) and another is in more serious danger.

A wammo's self-Mending is helpful IF he/she knows what they're doing to start with.

So yes, it's actually all about who's behind the keyboard and the avatar. If the person has taken the time and care to learn the profession and what works best for him/her, then all's good. If they've simply chosen monks because they think the tats are cool and they want to (eventually) be a 55 solo because everyone knows they're the baddest sobs in the game and uber-rich, then <shrugs>.

Personal favorite story: a monk's reply in one of the So Shiverpeaks missions once (THK, I think it was). We had 2 monks, one who'd worked hard to heal us and fallen and another monk who threw some heal around but wasn't noticeably helping (as in mostly just standing there). When we had waited for the 2nd monk to raise the other monk (we all only had the sig and were trying to be smart), he then seemed to wake up and replied "I can't". We, of course, asked him why not. After all, he had said he was set as a full healer. He replied that he was "a pure healer, I don't resurrect".

But you know, it's the same with every profession. My first character, Lili, has finished Tyria and is making serious inroads into Cantha. She's an expert sniper---not a trapper, not a 'touch-ranger', not a beast master or any of those 'approved builds'---and often she is the last left standing because she does her job, which is to fight as a ranged character and to take out enemy mages then cover any escaped aggro trying to take out her casters. Of course, ocassionally she's takes a dirt nap, but a little snooze can be refreshing .

Sometimes I feel like filling my skillbar with sigs... You don't want to wait for my energy to recharge? Fine, I won't use energy consuming skills!

And even then, I'm sure they wouldn't get it...

If only more people listened when you do this.... I made a monk for similar reasons as the OP... and I found that I rather enjoyed it when with a decent group (it's definitely a different style of play from the other prof's). I started a new monk in Cantha, and I cannot the believe how people ignore your energy level.

I think it was the Closer to the Stars mission where I noticed this the worst (so far)... after each group we killed I kept calling my energy:

My Energy is 3 of XX
My Energy is 4 of XX
My Energy is 7 of XX

And no matter how low I was, they would not wait a few seconds for me to recharge. I just about gave up... thinking if they die, they die. How do people expect you to keep them alive when you have no energy?

I have seen a instance of reverse monk abuse. We were in a mission where we only had one monk because there just weren't very many people in town. No problem it is not that tough of a mission. So while we are in there the monk decides he is going to tell us how everyone should play their parts in the mission. Everyone just went on playing like they normally would and we were doing fine, no one was rushing or over aggroing. The monk starts complaining and says that he will leave and find another group if we don't do it the way he wants. I am not sure how it ended since I got a Err7.

What I'm really sick of is Monks that spend all their time whining that they're being abused... if you're being blamed all the time for a group failing, either it is in fact your fault, or you're picking very poor groups. Here's a hint, if you're trying to smite or protect as well as healing it's probably your fault. A monk should be all heal or all protect. My Heal monk can work miracles because I'm Energy conserving 100% Heal. And by the way, I join the first somewhat ballanced group to invite me and usually make it through missions just fine often in very good time. (I Take Hench for anything but missions and often in missions too if I'm fed up with the many morons out there)

If your energy is this low after every group (like you said) of those enemies in that mission, its pretty much your fault and I can't pity you... I'd reconsider my build in your situation.

EDIT: This brings me to a more broad point....

Monks think its their RIGHT to bring whatever lame non energy effective build they want, and the party should stop after every fight to compensate for this... I understand that a monk can get "pooped" out for energy and they should say this, but I think its retarded when all they do is Spam "My Energy is [y] of [x]" after every fight, and yell when noone cares.

On another note: In Vizunah Sqaure (foreign) 2 days ago, some monk was spamming this in All Chat: "Monking for mission, 1.5k per party member. You pay Warriors for runs, why not have to pay monks for healing." Everyone had a good laugh at that.

if you're running out of energy you need a new build..

Not true, my healing build with prot spirit and sometimes aegis that i usually use is more effective than full heal

Player: go protection monk.
Me: Read my name….you see it says healer…right.

Player: Heal my pet plz.
Me: I’m not a veterinarian.

Player spam’s I’m dead.
Me: um where are you? What are you doing way over there in BFE?

Player: heal me……
Me: put your armor back on.

Player: why didn't you heal me?
Me: because you where dead.

Player: you need to learn better energy management and learn your skills
Me: ok…I’ll start by not healing and rezing you!!
Player: why are you standing there?
Me. Perfecting my energy management.

Me: Sorry but I this will never work seven assassins and one monk…..

Player: rez me rez me rez me rez me rez me rez me.
Unyielding Aura
Me: now behave.

1 + 6 is just being a jerk :|

You're the monk.
Everyone wants you.
You can pick and choose the people you want to play with
If you hate someone, you let them die

Can anyone say TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION!!!1!#`@#!3

As I read this thread, I am slowly growing more and angrier at this issue. Who the hell do you monks think you are, honestly? Monk, is not a secret option, which only the truly leet players get. Anybody can make a monk, you aren't special, and your job is NO MORE VITAL THAN ANY OTHER PROFESSION! I REPEAT: NO MORE VITAL THAN ANY OTHER PROFESSION! You are equally as important as the Tank and the Mesmer. You keep on saying "I'm the one healing the group." Well the Tank is the one who is taking 90% of eth damage so all the squishies aren't dead in 3 seconds flat. And the Mesmer is the one making everybody else’s job a helluva lot easier, by throwing on hexes, and sapping energy.

Monks are not a special class, get over yourselves. All the monks demanding that the rest of us "behave" or "shape up” should play the game with hench.

I think im repeating something i said earlier, but if there was a surplus in Monks, this elitism wouldn't exist, and the oh-so-hated W/Mo will be the ones making unreasonable and elitist demands on the rest of us.

Hahaha! You rule! Made my hour

Seriously though, this thread is a year old. Way to bring it back from the dead.

Now I've been playing a Monk since Prophecies was released and I've seen more than my share or dumb-assery.

Rangers trying to pull with shortbows.
Warriors drawing aggro and brushing it off on the casters so they can more freely go after the enemy casters.
Mesmers casting Physical Rsistance and trying to tank only to get worked over by Chain Lightning.
Necros who sac themselves to death in the middle of a battle and blame the healer when they werent even being attacked.
Elementalists who think that speccing 'Fire' makes them immune to it.
Monks who use Zealots Fire and Healing Touch together on the Warrior who drew aggro into a nice little pile...that then disperses and attacks the monk, who then runs back to the line of casters, and drags the mob with him.
Assassins with 7 attack skills and 1 teleport.
Ritualists using EoE and skills that kill their own spirits.

The main problem, and the reason Monks get so pissed, is that 6-7 out of 8 of the dumb-ass moves I listed are the Monks problem. We bear the brunt of almost every other classes idiocy...even when it's performed by the other Monk (especially then).

You say we aren't a special class, but you are mistaken. The base of any 8-(wo)man party is a method to prevent or heal damage while simultaneously being able to deal as much damage as possible. While there are numerous methods of dealing damage by any number of classes, Monk primaries or secondaries have always had (until the introduction of the Ritualist class) a monopoly on the healing aspect.

It's the same in every game I've played and the real world as well. Good healers are worth their weight in soldiers. Everyone knows it and that's why we are needed. There is a team build for any mission in this game that could gain Mastery level (or complete the bonus) without any class except Monk. I'd like to see anyone get Masters level completion of Vizunah's Square without a Monk primary or secondary. I don't think it could be done....and I think you'd have a rough time even completing it, honestly.

You need us May as well just admit it.

-An Egocentric Monk

yeah monks aren't any more needed than any other class... Go ahead... go into gvg without a monk... go ahead, go into gvg without an ele/rit/mes/war/sin/rng and tell me how you fair in each.

Almost 1 year later and still going strong. One might think this calls for a sticky.

EDIT: if anyone still wants mending, get a Resto rit into your group.

Dear god, I didn't even notice- this started on the eighth of June LAST year. Talk about beating a dead horse..

See this is why you want to “shit” them first before:

Any W/Mo rush into swamp of mods (With Charge!),

Or an Ele try to do close range nuke in the fire island (With Fire Skills)

Or a Ranger try to pock his mod with his/her arrow. (With a Longbow)

…etc

Err not if you have a good team... Our guild takes only one monk in there for healing and we typically do fine.... Unless our guildie who we call God Of Agro is with us or more random PUGs than usual, then it might get complicated... However when it comes time for our monk to scat cause we were stupid, we know better than to get heals and we WILL yell at him if he comes back to throw one off instead of running... a lone ranger = tank?... I think not!

It just depends on your group... Took a "healing" monk into FoW (2heal and 1bond in case a monk Disconnected ya know..) and the other monk watched as our monk did very very very little to no healing... We decided not to be rude since she was obviously a little new to it, but we were greatly saddened by it, especially our other heal monk lol.

In the end it all depends on your monks and your groups.... The whole thing goes both ways.

WTB Good team.

I mean, hell yeah, tell me how to determine how good a group is in PuGs BEFORE you enter the mission?

(Responding to Kali) BR gives an additional 3 regen for up to 14 seconds. Even assuming that it only lasts 10 secs, your right, its only going to provide 10 nrg. However, have you ever worked out what things like OOB and Mantra of Recall are in nrg regen figures. Mantra of recall is about 23 nrg every 20 secs, which more or less equates to 3 extra regen. So, basically a blood rit can be almost as effective as Mantra of Recall. In addition energy burn and surge steal the same amount of energy as blood rit provides, and these things can often destroy monks. From my experience of monking in gvg a blood rit at a good moment has kept not only the necro healed (and you shoudlnt be healing sacrifices on a necro, its called overhealing) but also the rest of the team. 10 energy may not seem like a lot, but in healing terms thats about 200 health in RoFs and Divine Boon.

I actually did that stuff =D

You see, all those people here are always talking about monk abuse, wammo abuse, something abuse.
They're frustrated!

They go into a mission hoping to complete it, not with masters or bonus, just hoping to complete it. Then they get abused and fail and they get sad, then they come here.

What they could do instead is... hench it!
It is possible to hench 100% of factions (excluding elite missions but those are an extra) or they could get themselves a guild or expand their friendslist.

Still there's hundreds of morons out there. The beauty of it all? They're EVERYWHERE

There's so many, you can't beat them, so why not join them?

I've been accepting blind invites to see what woul d happen. Doing Arborstone for no reason, just like I once did THK for no reason.

Did it 7 times yesterday.

One guy kept calling every single skill he used, then he started asking about the cool helmet one of the partymembers had. Then he was told that he could get it in Cavalon. So now he spends the entire mission spamming "someone lead me to cavalon!", "someone lead me to cavalon!"

Or Tahnnakai, which I did for an elite. I accepted a blind invite from a party with 2 assassins, hoping they'd be good assassins (they seem to team up).
We had 2 assassins, 2 necros, 1 monk (me), an ele and som e warriors.
They ALL acted like their own stereotypes.

The warriors ran close to a mob, then "pulled" them back into the casters. But that wasn't a problem since the ele was tanking anyway, getting killed in less than a second (the time it takes for a pure healing monk to fire off a healingspell.. i know, i know, halved casting times etc is nice but when they die in 2 frames....)
Then the ele is asking for rezzes etc..
The 2 necros? Neither of them were MM, neither of them were SS. You'd think they'd at least use some cookiecutter build but no.. They just stood there, wanding stuff to death, never ever using any skill at all.

The assassins? A/Mo using orison of healing on themselves... I don't know how many points they had in healing but orison healed them for like 1%.

It was so incredibly funny, I almost fell off my chair.
I was absolutely certain that this was fake, a set-up. Some kind of hidden camera things and that I would be in a movie or something.

I'm one of those weird people who help others.. but I noticed that my friendslist consists purely out of people I had helped before. There are zero people in there who helped me (apart from guildies and some others). A lot of the people in the list are constantly asking me for stuff too.

Mankind has degenerated into a big pile of poo. Why not sit there and laugh hysterically as the poo destroys itself?

Sad to say, but I agree with this post.

Henchies are so much smarter...I think that if ANET were to fix the henches, then PUGs are out of business.

You know... I've never seen anyone say any of that to me ever, and my monk is my main character. Maybe the people in your districts are idiots and not nice, or maybe just the people at the times you play are, or maybe you could do more to keep them alive? I dunno.

AMEN

yes, people in guildwars are retarded sometimes, yes monking is under appreciated, yes we know it get's annoying.

<3 monks
we salute you, you're doing a good job

now let's get back to real life and remember that this is a game, and the purpose is to have fun

My main character is a monk. I typically run a dual heal/protect monk (I find protection spells conserve energy by spreading it over a long course of time compared to healing spike damage at once--especially with these dang Afflicted going and spattering their corpses everywhere when they die). I've seen good groups, and bad groups. The above posters have it right--Monks and Warriors (and now Assassins...REAL easy to tell when they aren't that talented) are very visible professions, and thus will get the majority of the attention, whether good or bad.

A few people have stated that monks generally are elitist. Well, this can be very true. A lot of people don't play monks. It's very demanding at times, and personally, I take the failures rather hardly. If I'm already beating myself up for my mistakes, you don't need to point them out to me. Doing so will only make me angry--not necessarily at you, but at myself. At least if someone else makes a mistake, they can keep it private. However, me casting Heal Other/Jamei's Gaze on the 100% HP player above the 10% HP player is rather obvious. I'm not trying to make excuses for "snobby" monks. I do my best to be as tolerant as possible. When someone runs off, alone, half a map away and dies, then screams, "rez me! st00pid m0nk!", I find my patience runs thin.

Either way, it's a cyclic situation. Monks stop playing as monks because they don't like the abuse, and thus the up-and-coming monks realize they are in high demand, which fosters the elitism, which causes the rest of the players to beat on us, whether we be good or bad.

Change starts with you. Only you can prevent forest fir-err, Monk-basing and elitism! :P

Ill only respect monks when they are doing their job and not being asshats.

I was doing RoF tonight on my monk, and there were 2 other monks in the party. one of the monks get a good weapon and one of the players asked if they could have it. So the monk starts screaming about how the person is trying to scam her.

the 2 monks I’m guessing were together ( though neither of them even had a guild) the monk that was yelling asks me to back her up cause monks need to stick together. I simply said I didn’t want to get into an argument, so both monks said I was a backstabber and that I was also a P***y for not joining in the monk strike months earlier, then they proceeded to try and make me look bad, which sort of worked, one of the wammos fell for it.

On top of that, I was pretty much the only one healing, and the other 2 monks kept dieing.

WHERE DO THESE PEOPLE COME FROM!!! I want so badly to post their names so nobody has to go through playing with them.


What I want is for anet to buff not only rits healing skills, but each classes self healing, not by a lot, but just enough so rits can be used more, and all the ass monks will have to be nice if they want to get a party.


this is a problem in lots of online RPG's all the healing is basically on one class, and a good amount of people in that class are just plan jerks and think they are most important, and then at some points they charge money for having them in your party. I’ve already seen this happen in guild wars and its just lame. lots of good monks, but way more ones that just do it to take advantage.

After taking my monk through every mission in both Tyria and Cantha, I honestly can't remember a single complaint about my healing (and I'm nothing special). Maybe I just happen to join good pugs, but from what I've seen, the situation isn't bad as a whole: there are just certain people who force rare occassions of rudeness. And put bluntly, it's the stupid people who criticize the monks. It's the people who overextend, split up, don't watch the party window... The only time I remember being criticized was in RA, I was on a boon prot. Normally, I get complimented for monking in RA, but this time, I just so happened to run into a very high damage group and was immediately crowded by 2 assassins. While I was kiting to keep myself alive, the mesmer on my team ran very far forward (out my healing range) and died. Then he typed in team chat something like "what a sorry excuse for a monk" and ragequit. Pissed me off :-P

Its sort of like the difference between pugs in HA as you go up the ranks. r3+ groups often include many bossy people who really don't know what they're doing and they criticize others more than they look at their own flaws. r6+ groups always seem to be more -calm- with a definite leader and suggestions are welcome (whereas I always seem to look stupid if I make a suggestion on what to do in a r3+ group).

Its funny because, i see monks here complaining about mending warriors and rambos, these people are CONVINCED they are an asset to the team and the world revoles around them.
They complain when the team wipes and blames everyone but them selves, yet you look and see these HORRIBLE monks running gimped bars, and you wonder hmmm whos fault was it really?

i henched most of the game with my monk because i CANT STAND most of the HORRIBLE players in pve, but for those odd times where i would have to group up , and we pick up that Mo/R with a pet or the Mo/Rt who thinks he is a good healer, i just LAUGH and leave.

and by the way its easy to tell someones skill pregame
theres alot of checks in place

see the warrior with full knights or dragon? - Bad warrior
see the monk in tats ? -Bad Monk
see anyone with a ridiculous name (dark pwn knight etc.) - bad player
people have riduculous secondaries (Mo/r , W/Rt, A/X, etc) - bad player
common sense > all

if you take the time to evaluate your group before going in, you can guarentee your group wont be a failure.

i got my protector of cantha and tyria easily by not playing with bad players.

That is completely false, I've goten masters on three of the Mainland missions in groups that have no monk primaries as well as beaten the Ring of Fire Mission and Bonus with a group of all Warriors, only 4 were W/Mo, and me as a Barrage/Pet Ranger. It is completely possible with good players, but the problem is there just aren't that many good players. But instead of doing anything to help new players learn to play better, everyone just complains about it.

Just a reminder that flaming is against the rules here, so be careful of what you say and how strongly you say it.

I have PUG'ed Prophecies on 7 or 8 charas, and now Factions with 2 charas completely, and 4 charas up to HzH/Cavalon (just whacking around Aspenwood, rest of the storyline and the missions are boring, useless, etc)..

And I haven't met these horror groups of noobish doom. I assume you play on the American server, so is the playerbase more clueless over there? The Euro server atleast seems to work fine and dandy for me, most of the PUGs succeed, there aren't those stereotypical noobs that much (except few 'tanks' that use Frenzy. Oh boy that guy dropped like a stone many, many times in Abaddon's Mouth. He didn't even stop using it after I tried to tell him that it effectively halved his HPs.)

And I kinda have done some of the missions again to see some of these oddballs, but without much success, so I have really hard time believing that "all players that play on pugs are total noobs and poo", when I haven't seen that many of them, I'd give the groups I've played with some 10-25% 'noobyness' amount, while the rest of the group tended to know what they were doing (there has been some utter failures, but most of the time it has been a very smooth ride).

It seems like people often forget that if your group decides not to work together it will fail. There is nothing new and suprising about that. Yet it seems that so many people ARE suprised by it.

I have noticed that there are only 3 kinds of people that tend to abuse monks. These people abuse everyone though. Impatient people. Jerky people. Lazy people. At least one of these is pretty easy to spot right off. They tend to spam "gogogogo" while still in town. The lazy people are unfortunately hard to spot unless they go afk while in town and don't say anything to repeated queries. Jerks tend to hold it in till things get tough. These people act the same to ALL classes.

I don't see what gives monks license to call weave with sob stories(please note the sarcasm of this last sentence). The scapegoat is the most obvious one, these days it's not even the monk. I have seen a whole lot of assassin abuse. I don't even have an assassin and I am thoroughly appauled at how most of them are treated. What about the wammos too? Everyone still talks all kind of crap about wammos.

All of the classes take it in one way or another. I don't think that anyone should be saying they have it any worse than any other profession. Monks can at least find a group when ever they want.

To the OP, i am sorry you feel the way you did and it happens to most monks in high end PvE areas.

This is the reason why i dont monk for PuGs any more except for the guild.

This trend is likely to continue up to the point where players without a guild will find themselves stuck on maps like THK in GWP or temple, arbostone(Kur), unwaking waters(kuz) in GWF for months on ends until they decide to join a guild to help them or quit the game altogether or learn to keep their trap shut when they die and not spam for rez/abuse the monk in a PuG.

Same goes for Farming maps like Tombs and one monk is sufficient if the MM knows what hes doing and the B/Ps dont stand around in the AoE and actually interupt it.

/end rant

I'm sorry to write this, but I've met some quite funny monks lately:
1. Me and some members of my alliance decided to do Arborstone, we decided to try PuG, one monk was from our alliance and one of the best in it. The other one we can call "G". We started the mission and after a while I noticed that we didn't get much heal and the only one who seemed to be healing was the alliance monk. I looked at G and what was he doing? Well, spamming flare and heal party. Was a good laugh, we made it anyway till the end.

2. Yesterday me and a guildie decided to rush through most of the missions or at least till HzH, so after a couple of hours playing we reached Boreas. We put a PuG together and all seemed well, most seemed to know what they were doing until again I noticed we only got heal from one monk. I looked at the other monk and all he was doing ws using healing breeze and Balthazar's Aura, but that's not the worst. He then decided to aggro everything on map even though we were drawing like mad men on the map to tell him to stop and shouting in chat. We made it in the end and got Masters (d'uh).

Please, if you use some wacky build with hardly any heal or protection, please tell before so that we can get another healer/prot aswell.

Ronso