Droknar's Rushers

Lasher Dragon

Lasher Dragon

Draconic Rage Incarnate

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Alphahive

R/A

I got one of my toons rushed today and I must say it was an awesome spectacle watching the guy/girl work. The person charged 4k - 1k in Snake Dance, 2k in Camp Rankor, and 1k in Droknar's Forge. I paid him/her an extra plat for the awesome job.

Since there are so many scammers preying on the people trying to rush, I would like to post this person's name as a good rusher. Mods, I know there are rules against posting people's character names if they are scamming or if I have some issue with them, but is it OK if I am endorsing them? If not, I apologize in advance, and please delete this thread.

Anyway, if it ISN'T a problem to post referrals on here, I would like to recommend Dragon Fire Storm. Very professional, and a damn good price too IMO. If someone else has had a good experience with a Droknar's rusher, post it in here (assuming I am not breaking the rules and this thread gets deleted hehe).

d4nowar

d4nowar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/

If this stays up, then this guy is going to get two things.

1) A lot of people yelling at him to stop rushing low levels.
2) Gold... Lots of gold...

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

Way I see it is Anet obviously wanted this to happen.

If they didn't they wouldn't of put in Lornar's Pass and would've forced you to go around. through the missions.

Genos

Genos

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Amazon Basin

R/E

Yeah, i have to agree - i think Anet likes putting real challanges into the game like this - lets face it, running all the way there is not an easy task. in any case kudos to that person, and i may have a job for them soonish..

p0t4T0

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Or Die Trying [ODT]

W/Mo

I admit, ive rushed a few low levels to Droknar, but i only charged 5k each :P
Basically i just had mending on and kept hitting sprint, with a few sneeky "enemy avoiding maneuvers it isnt that hard.

Bushmins

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

UK

None

E/N

Does the story lead you to that area?

Edit; Just read the above post.
At what point does the story lead you there?

Genos

Genos

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Amazon Basin

R/E

quite a long way into it. infact, after reaching Droknars there is all of 6 missions left in the game. XD. thus, peopel like to get there early to pick up the highest lvl armour especially for characters who want to unlcok skills and such - i plan to do the same with my Mes/W, simply so he can solo a bit more and ican have fun explorign in soem of the early areas, without being torn to shreads due to crappy armour

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

no there is no quest for that area. And yes Arena net used the lornars pass run as a shortcut for testing the new areas in the southern shiver peeks when there were NO monsters in it back in the last beta... However you had to have special access key to get in there to test it... The high level monsters were added at launch to keep 1st generation low level characters from making the run, but it was expected that 2nd and 3rd generation characters would prob get guild mates or friends to make the run to get skills unlocked faster for other builds.. Its by design, it is not cheating...

Oh and at least this person is being a legitimate guide and following through with the effort. and I might add its a reasonable rate too boot. Our guild often rewards this as a bonus custom quest in the guild.. it normally results in a random gold weapon of your choice as a reward... Our guild saves many gold weapons, and chaos weapons as rewards for Posted custom guild quests from our forums. As we think of em and get items for rewards, we randomly post a few on our forums or web-page. Glad to see other people treating players corectly every once in a while.

Gara

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Silver Hawks

N/E

What annoys me is most of all the good smiting skills are way late in the game. It's the same with air magic.

You can't START as an air magic user or smiter. You have to convert to them near the end of the game.

Ignotus

Ignotus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Parliament of Rooks

W/Mo

I thought I'd try running through. I'm a lvl 20 w/mo. I got owned FAST. Something casts a snare. I'm about as annoyed with the game as I've been in a long time.

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

oh I wasnt saying it was easy. lol its deffinatly a challenge to do it. But I think its fun even with just a bunch of level 20 doing and no low levels. its a fun area to clear out... IF you can... Try for the Heath Bonus Early... once at about +6% you have a better chance to win in heads up NPC battles in lormars pass... but it you go under say -20% forget about it... your toast...

wheel

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

if the person that the OP recommended is busy, i would also recommend the following people who have been doing the runs for a long time. they will get you there very quickly and very professionally.

Anton Hanneman (quickest rush on time, 13.47 minutes, out of ANYONE on Guild Wars. If you have a quicker time, I'd love to see you rush)
Zecharias of Zob
Geo Stigma
Arreats Defender
Graka Ekieron
Slash Dot -shameless self promo, i dont do rushes very often lately, more into pvp at the moment, but it never hurts to ask me when i'm on.
Jak Knife

there are more, cant remember right now. i'm friends with all of the fast rushers. :-)

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
Way I see it is Anet obviously wanted this to happen.

If they didn't they wouldn't of put in Lornar's Pass and would've forced you to go around. through the missions.
I would say just because you can do something, that doesn't mean the game designers meant for players to do it.

Maybe they did, I honestly don't know but it seems not in thier best intrest to create controversy and upset players who play according to the storyline to please other players who can't wait. Not to mention people getting bored faster, affecting the economy ect, ect....

DrSLUGFly

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

Can you run Lornar's Pass alone? Or is it typically done in small groups? Can it be run by one person by themselves?

Tony Blair

Tony Blair

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

VA

Another good runner: Beltrami Klien. And we didn't have to pay until Rankor, nice guy.

Shagsbeard

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Anyone want to explain how a 'run' works? Does the lowbie just keep up with the runner? I'm not sure how the group dynamics work as I'm playing the game 100% solo the first time through.

Itbegins

Itbegins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

A Van Down by the River

Best Rapper Ever[DMX]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by wheel
if the person that the OP recommended is busy, i would also recommend the following people who have been doing the runs for a long time. they will get you there very quickly and very professionally.

Anton Hanneman (quickest rush on time, 13.47 minutes, out of ANYONE on Guild Wars. If you have a quicker time, I'd love to see you rush)
Zecharias of Zob
Geo Stigma
Arreats Defender
Graka Ekieron
Slash Dot -shameless self promo, i dont do rushes very often lately, more into pvp at the moment, but it never hurts to ask me when i'm on.
Jak Knife

there are more, cant remember right now. i'm friends with all of the fast rushers. :-)

the funny thing i have had 3 of the same people above rush me my favorite by far tho is.

Graka ekieron-charges 5k when you get there

Thirty round clip-5k when you get there

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

I'd assume that the 'lowbie' just dies and watches the runner through the spec mode. They'd get ressed at transition between zones and just die again until they were where they need to be.

Reppyboyo

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Shame runner seem to be few and far between.
Been looking for one myself but it all appears to be lvl20 groups running about, being lvl12 doesnt help.

Cant be arsed to go all through the game again, want to explore a bit this time.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Typically, the lowbie acts as a meat shield, keeping a few mobs occupied with his or her death while the runner keeps going.

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

And you guys don't consider this an exploit? I'm just curious.

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

Sure don't.

Anet would've sealed it up by now if they didn't want us doing it.

p0t4T0

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Or Die Trying [ODT]

W/Mo

If you want rushing there PM me, i can take you there.

Lews

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Seattle, Washington

R/E

I'm kind of bored. I feel like getting my warrior good stuff so I can finally put some runes on him. I guess I might have some business for whoever is the best person sometime.

Is there anyway I can pay extra to get rushed from yaks bend to DF? I dont want to do the missions, lol.

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
Sure don't.

Anet would've sealed it up by now if they didn't want us doing it.
I see.

That is a convienient answer, is that the only reason you don't consider it an exploit?

Personally I don't care what people do in the game because I play my own way,
but since this is a discussion forum I'm really interested. I'd be curious if there was a more of a gameplay explanation. Let's say Anet hypothetically made it if you died you ended up back at the town you started from last...like the missions. Even though it's open to all would a low level player still be escorted?

AeroLion

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dax
And you guys don't consider this an exploit? I'm just curious.
Not at all. It's just another way to go through the game. My first time through, I did no missions at all until Sanctum Cay. That was only to get to the desert. If I could've somehow walked to the desert and then walked to Droknar's, I would have. I liked exploring. I walked and explored every map and visited every mission town and outpost until I got to Sanctum. I even did every quest; I just never touched missions save Sanctum and Ascension.

My second character ended up at Droknar's progressing through missions and quests. I've since gone back and gotten all the outposts on this character but there are a few maps he's never been to, like Tears of the Fallen and Dragon's Gullet.

My third character is a full on healing monk. I've decided I wanted to just leisurely explore with him but I also wanted my final armor so I don't have anything to worry about. So I got myself a taxi and got my armor.

My fourth character is in Pre-searing still and is a necro. I'm sure I will have this char rushed to Droknar's as well for the same reasons as my monk. Maybe I'll try to progress by soloing all the missions this time.

Getting to Droknar's, for me, is just another way of going through the game. I've gone the long way, I've gone the so-called "right" way, I'm trying the relaxed way, and I will try the frustrating way. It's all about options.

KaPe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Well, maybe it isn't exactly "exploit" but I find it stupid to have low level character wearing Forge stuff and than fighting early game monsters again, just because he "wants to solo"(of course, 7.5k comes from his friends ) It kinda kills the purpose of monsters having levels in the first place, where's the challenge? Feh, do it if you want - as long as you stay of low level arenas though.

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroLion
Not at all. It's just another way to go through the game. My first time through, I did no missions at all until Sanctum Cay. That was only to get to the desert. If I could've somehow walked to the desert and then walked to Droknar's, I would have. I liked exploring. I walked and explored every map and visited every mission town and outpost until I got to Sanctum. I even did every quest; I just never touched missions save Sanctum and Ascension.

My second character ended up at Droknar's progressing through missions and quests. I've since gone back and gotten all the outposts on this character but there are a few maps he's never been to, like Tears of the Fallen and Dragon's Gullet.
Fair enough, I can dig it. From my perspective I think it's cool that people have found way through by exploration. When I started to ponder the gameplay aspect of it when is if they die and rezzed at the zones to get through. Since I have never done it I kinda pictured a train bobbing and weaving through baddies. If it's just a matter of dying, that seems to me sorta a exploit, but thats just my 2 cents. I don't necessarily agree with the whole being able to wear the high end armor, but I guess if there's nothing to say you can't....

Lazarus

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/

This would be a much bigger issue if "rushing" to Drokar's Forge gave an advantage in something other than low level random pvp fights. However that is all it really does. Your level 6 character with the best AL money can buy can rule the Ascalon "under 10" random 4v4 PvP...so what? It just means you are too lazy for your own good. Anyone serious about the game will play all the way through.

Now I know some of you understand what I mean, but then again some of you don't. So here it is:

Anyone that wants to be truely great...not just great for a while, or great in a certain situation, but great every single time they play...they will take the time and effort to put themselves through every possible combination of builds in combat. Then they will know the difference between a "shutdown mage," a "disruption mage" and an "anti-caster", or the difference between a "tank" and a "max DPS warrior." In my opinion, ANet has done a great job of presenting a wide variety of builds and tactics in PvE and anyone new to the game would be down right foolish not to play through a few times to learn what it has to offer.

If a person has gone through the game with one, two, or three characters and has learned what is what and why, then I say let them rush. If they rush through before hand, then sooner or later they will come to realize that they missed something. What they do at that point is up to them.


Lazarus

Arri

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazarus
This would be a much bigger issue if "rushing" to Drokar's Forge gave an advantage in something other than low level random pvp fights. However that is all it really does. Your level 6 character with the best AL money can buy can rule the Ascalon "under 10" random 4v4 PvP...so what? It just means you are too lazy for your own good. Anyone serious about the game will play all the way through.
Just because someone got rushed to drokar's forge and got all the "best" armor doesn't mean they AUTOMATICLY win in lowbie arenas...Im beginning to see more and more people ingame AND forums going "rush to drokar's = unstoppable god in low lvl PVP arenas" It doesn't work that way...

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

I think the previous posts are excellent points. I might argue that while it seems harmless to you and me what about the the new player who wants to play through the quests and story but at the same time wants to be competative in the arenas? If a persons initial experience is that they need high level armor in order to be competative (even if it's not always the case) they need to skip the through that might put some off.

I'm just wondering will it come to low level players without certain armor not get picked for groups?

I thought that's why they have the other PvP portion of the game...for people who didn't want to bother with the questing end of it.

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

The game developers do not run through every mission when they ant to test something they just walk there, or use the Alpha screen to just go there, I should say. lol But often they just want to go to an area to test or see something. and walking is very common for that... like I said only a few were able to get to droknars back in the beta, and they walked there through from lormars pass to do it before there were any monsters in it. THe high level mosters were put the to Guard it yes, but also to be a challenge to attempt the run directly... its not an exploit or a bug, its just a path through the snow. thats all...

Lews

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Seattle, Washington

R/E

Could you even get to Droknars in beta? Or the Crystal D? I got to Underworld, and beat Sanctum Cay, but that was as far as I got.

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

General access to droknars was only provided to the alpha team. during the last beta. The alpha folks have access to their own servers... and private instances apart from the retail or beta environment. Their server had access to more areas then we got to see in the beta weekend events... Often unpopulated areas.

AeroLion

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dax
If a persons initial experience is that they need high level armor in order to be competative (even if it's not always the case) they need to skip the through that might put some off.
On this, I agree with you. I'd hate for someone that was truly new to the game have their first PVP experience against a griefer. And yes, I consider going to the Ascalon arena with Forge armor as griefing. An experienced player wouldn't be fazed by someone doing that. They could think of strategies. But someone completely new that isn't familiar with the strategy or the concept of Guild Wars now has a very souring experience. They may even wonder what the point of continuing the game is if it's populated by people like this.

The solution to this is a simple one, I believe. No one can ever be on truly equal ground in post-searing Ascalon since anyone can go back there and offer runes, weapons, shields, etc. So put an arena in Pre-searing. You're forced to be on equal ground there and it's the best place to learn since you're also learning about the game. Others have suggested it and I think it alleviates the major gripe with being run to Droknar's.

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroLion
The solution to this is a simple one, I believe. No one can ever be on truly equal ground in post-searing Ascalon since anyone can go back there and offer runes, weapons, shields, etc. So put an arena in Pre-searing. You're forced to be on equal ground there and it's the best place to learn since you're also learning about the game. Others have suggested it and I think it alleviates the major gripe with being run to Droknar's.
That's a great idea, also you can put level limit on weapons and armor you can equip. That way a person can explore til thier hearts desire, get all the armor they need just not equip it to the appropriate level....and it would give lower level items added value.

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

*** SCAMMER ***

Ofir Atia


This guy just scammed me and two others. Luckily he only charged 500 up front so it wasn't that big of a loss.



Tips for helping avoid scammers:

1) If they don't let you pay at Rankor and insist you pay at Snakedance, they're probably a scammer. They act like they're going there, then they grab your money, log out. And you're left without even a zone down there (cause at Rankor, at least you could grab some hencies and rapidly level)

2) If they demand money up front.


I failed at number 2. But since he was only charging 1k (which should've been a red flag) 500 now, 500 later. I figured what the hell.

But whatever, it's not like 500 GP is that much money, just that he got the satisfaction.

prankster

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

La Crescenta, CA

Pwnzors Of Doom

W/E

I tried rushing to droknars, i was in lomars pass, and doing fine, until i discovered the damn fire worms. Seems almost impossible to rush through with them in it now. Have people tried it? They keep knocking you down. Maybe they were put in to stop runners?

Luggage

Luggage

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

sweden

Quote:
Originally Posted by prankster
I tried rushing to droknars, i was in lomars pass, and doing fine, until i discovered the damn fire worms. Seems almost impossible to rush through with them in it now. Have people tried it? They keep knocking you down. Maybe they were put in to stop runners?
Balanced stance = can't be knocked down.

Darkest Dawn

Darkest Dawn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Ohio, USA

W/Mo

Geo Stigma ran my warrior there. Only charged us a plat each! It was amazing. He used sprint, mending, charge, and balanced stance. Flawless! This is one good thing if you are a W/Mo.

As a W/E, I got crushed each time, yes, at lvl 20. After I got the better armor, In was able to fight my way half way back with the lvl 20 henchies. I stopped there since I was just farming and messing around. Fight through, sure, I can do it now. Run it? nope. I'd get my butt handed to me on a platter, lol.