Stop picking on those who refuse to skip cutscenes

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Elvarg
Academy Page
#1
I understand that all you "pros", powerquesting your n-th character through the game, see cuscenes as a waste of time. For some, the 30 seconds you save you can use to farm ectos after the mission is done. For others, its just boring seeing the same old faces and stories over and over again. For yet others the reason is more legitimate -- necro armies die and mobs can kill groups while people watch quest.

The latter is really Anets problem -- I think that during cutscenes everyone's health and energy should freeze.

But in any case -- stop being so goddamn selfish. You know, there ARE newer people to the game, just like you once were. and some of these people (GASP) actually care about the game's story. By forcing them to skip cuscenes and picking/insulting/ostracising those that don't, you are ruining their fun to enjoy the game's storyline and lore.

I think everyone has the moral right to watch cutscenes. If you REALLY want to have a particular cutscene skipped (and you better have a good reason), first ask members if they all have seen it in the past. If you have people who want to watch it, it is you who needs to change your strategy, not them. Your own powerleveling should NOT come at the expense of those who want to play the game properly and learn whats going on, rather than speedlevel through it.

Some exceptions do apply, for example if someone asks you to run them through mission (especially if you are a necro running people through desert missions), then by opting to run rather then play they agree to sacrifice the fun in exploring themselves, and thus should not interfere with your methods. But when people come to QUEST through the mission, don't force them to skip.

Personally I have seen the cutscenes myself, so if someone asks me POLITELY to skip, I do, but if I hear people yelling "OMG SKIP NOOBS" I will not skip on purpose. And, certainly, when Cantha comes out and I start questing, I will not skip any cutscenes the first time I play, because I'm damn sure I want to enjoy the game as it is supposed to be played, and I will not have you speed through it at my expense.
Iskrah
Iskrah
Lion's Arch Merchant
#2
Agreed. Actually i never got to see the cutscenes, because of the pressure of some... And i'm sure it's the same for a lot of players.
Teklord
Teklord
Krytan Explorer
#3
Also agreed, and for the record I never (and never will) bow down to someone else's view as to how I should play.

If time is so precious to them, they should simply stay away from anything that has a cutscene in it.
EternalTempest
EternalTempest
Furnace Stoker
#4
Also agree

If you do need to skip (say thunderhead keep and you have a minon master) nicely let everyone know ahead time and work it out. The skip or else attitude bugs me.

Anet should fix and freeze health degen (on everything) pause all attacks and such during a cutscene.
Tainek
Tainek
Wilds Pathfinder
#5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elvarg
I understand that all you "pros", powerquesting your n-th character through the game, see cuscenes as a waste of time. For some, the 30 seconds you save you can use to farm ectos after the mission is done. For others, its just boring seeing the same old faces and stories over and over again. For yet others the reason is more legitimate -- necro armies die and mobs can kill groups while people watch quest.

The latter is really Anets problem -- I think that during cutscenes everyone's health and energy should freeze.

But in any case -- stop being so goddamn selfish. You know, there ARE newer people to the game, just like you once were. and some of these people (GASP) actually care about the game's story. By forcing them to skip cuscenes and picking/insulting/ostracising those that don't, you are ruining their fun to enjoy the game's storyline and lore.

I think everyone has the moral right to watch cutscenes. If you REALLY want to have a particular cutscene skipped (and you better have a good reason), first ask members if they all have seen it in the past. If you have people who want to watch it, it is you who needs to change your strategy, not them. Your own powerleveling should NOT come at the expense of those who want to play the game properly and learn whats going on, rather than speedlevel through it.

Some exceptions do apply, for example if someone asks you to run them through mission (especially if you are a necro running people through desert missions), then by opting to run rather then play they agree to sacrifice the fun in exploring themselves, and thus should not interfere with your methods. But when people come to QUEST through the mission, don't force them to skip.

Personally I have seen the cutscenes myself, so if someone asks me POLITELY to skip, I do, but if I hear people yelling "OMG SKIP NOOBS" I will not skip on purpose. And, certainly, when Cantha comes out and I start questing, I will not skip any cutscenes the first time I play, because I'm damn sure I want to enjoy the game as it is supposed to be played, and I will not have you speed through it at my expense.
Agree in full except

1: if your being run through a mission (if you want to see it , do it properly, in fact, why are you even being run if you havent seen it!)

2: if you have a MM in your party- Provided the MM says at the beggining of the mission that you will need to, then you should, if you dont, you are an asshole (and even more so if you agree that you will)
Silent Kitty
Silent Kitty
Desert Nomad
#6
I only skip them when there is an MM in the party. Minions tend to die during cut scenes. Programmers should fix that. I also died once during a cutscene, because I was poisoned.
striderkaaru
striderkaaru
Desert Nomad
#7
agreed.

i've always been mindful of newer players. since i always play through the game with my new characters (and not get run), i sometimes end up partying with people for quests and missions. communication is important, but what i will often do is wait before skipping a cutscene. if i see 4/6 want to skip, i know that one person isn't skipping and i won't skip. this way, when the cut scene is over, he/she will not be ostracized for being the only one.
burai
burai
Lion's Arch Merchant
#8
/agree

I have seen most of the cutscenes several times, but I appreciate I may be teaming with others who haven't. Patience is a virtue ... and a card game
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AxeMe
Lion's Arch Merchant
#9
There are sometimes practical reasons for skipping cutscenes. One has been mentioned, the MM can lose fiends during that time.

I've also seen people die when enemies are still attacking when the cutscene begins. I've seen it in the ring of fire region and in the Sanctium Cay mission.

If enemies do attack during the cutscene you take the hits without being able to defend yourself or kill them.
xxSilhouette
xxSilhouette
Desert Nomad
#10
/agree

My first time through time through the game i skipped cutscenes often just to keep people from getting mad...but my second time through i just said screw that, I mean i understand the MM necros - there feinds die, but its not THAT big of a deal, they can get more.

cutscenes ftw!
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Elvarg
Academy Page
#11
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Originally Posted by Tainek
Agree in full except

1: if your being run through a mission (if you want to see it , do it properly, in fact, why are you even being run if you havent seen it!)

2: if you have a MM in your party- Provided the MM says at the beggining of the mission that you will need to, then you should, if you dont, you are an asshole (and even more so if you agree that you will)
1. Agreed, as I have stted in the past, if you are being RUN (or otherwise not play it yourself), do as the runner tells you.

2. Yes, but ONLY if the MM says he will do so and gets the group's permission. If at the beginning someone tells them they want to watch cutscenes, the MM should find another group or change their strategy, and if they don't, group isn't obliged to skip.
Tainek
Tainek
Wilds Pathfinder
#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elvarg
1. Agreed, as I have stted in the past, if you are being RUN (or otherwise not play it yourself), do as the runner tells you.

2. Yes, but ONLY if the MM says he will do so and gets the group's permission. If at the beginning someone tells them they want to watch cutscenes, the MM should find another group or change their strategy, and if they don't, group isn't obliged to skip.
Yes i agree he should get the groups permission, but as for finding anouther group, the minoirty should (so if 1/8 wants to watch, 7/8 wants to skip, player 1 should take a hike, and vice versa)
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kryshnysh
Lion's Arch Merchant
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by striderkaaru
agreed.

i've always been mindful of newer players. since i always play through the game with my new characters (and not get run), i sometimes end up partying with people for quests and missions. communication is important, but what i will often do is wait before skipping a cutscene. if i see 4/6 want to skip, i know that one person isn't skipping and i won't skip. this way, when the cut scene is over, he/she will not be ostracized for being the only one.
I used to never skip unless I was the last one, even though I had seen them all, in case new players were with us. I didn't want to be one of the people pressuing them. Then after a series of guild missions, I realized that it was always 2/4 nd 4/6, and that it was the two most experienced officers not skipping. Now I tend to skip and let people know its no pressure, but but I'm skipping just to avoid that problem most of the time. Not to mention when I tell the group no pressure to skip, anyone who would get angry gets angry at me, and I just shrug them off.

I am a bit pushy in the opposite regard though Got lots of yells from the other room when I made my girlfriend watch the more important cut scenes on her first character, she just wanted to skip them all...
Big Tony
Big Tony
Frost Gate Guardian
#14
I agree completly.

As a new(er) player, It's really a pain when people start complaining about a 20 second cut-scene. I bought the game for the pretty graphics and mediocre story, let me enjoy my $50!
Ashleigh McMahon
Ashleigh McMahon
Site Contributor
#15
I agree.

Or maybe make it so if people want to skip the cutscene, they can, but others can still view it?

Ashleigh.
MelechRic
MelechRic
Desert Nomad
#16
EDIT: Didn't see the above post, but I advocate essentially the same idea.

ArenaNet could just fix it so that each player gets to watch/skip the cutscene independently of the others. Those that skip just go back to the regular world but are physically unable to move until all the people watching have finished. You can use any skills you want, but you just can't move. Seems like a fair deal to me.

Of course it's pie in the sky to even ask for it, but you never know...
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Former Ruling
Grotto Attendant
#17
I've never really "forced" or even asked someone to skip the cutscenes unless their was some reason too.

And I have never cared about ending cutscenes, If I have to go somewhere there is a way to drop at that cutscene.
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Elvarg
Academy Page
#18
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Originally Posted by MelechRic
EDIT: Didn't see the above post, but I advocate essentially the same idea.

ArenaNet could just fix it so that each player gets to watch/skip the cutscene independently of the others. Those that skip just go back to the regular world but are physically unable to move until all the people watching have finished. You can heal yourself or other party members. You can even keep your minions alive. You just can't move. Seems like a fair deal to me.

Of course it's pie in the sky to even ask for it, but you never know...
That's actually is a pretty good idea, why not make it like cutscenes work before pvp matches? Those who skip are zoomed out and get to do their stuff (like put on bonds, heal, etc), while those that want to watch, watch, and dont interfere with rest.

Unfortunately, that's not available, and with Anets focus being on factions its unlikely they would make fixes like these anytime soon.
Yukito Kunisaki
Yukito Kunisaki
Forge Runner
#19
I like the cut scenes, they're dubbed better than most movie dubs and can be quite humourous.

My favorite one involved being knighted as white mantle and then watching the congregation die to some accidental ghouls running about lol...

I always watch cutscenes, always, they're just that good to me.

Can't wait to enjoy Nika cutscenes in Factions...


rrraaaawwwrrr....
Toll Booth Willie
Toll Booth Willie
Frost Gate Guardian
#20
/disagree

I think it should be majority rule. Not like missing out on something good or important. If you insist on watching all scenes please take hench group and enjoy. I am there to play a game not watch a movie.

I wish if it was a party of 8 when the 5th person said skip it would skip for all. Majority ftw