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Ashleigh McMahon

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

North East England

WoTU[Warlords of the Underworld]

Mo/Me

29 Mar 2006 at 19:54 - 41

So people who like to co-operate with other players will loose out?
Sorry I 100% disagree with you there.

Ashleigh.

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Originally Posted by Toll Booth Willie

/disagree

I think it should be majority rule. Not like missing out on something good or important. If you insist on watching all scenes please take hench group and enjoy. I am there to play a game not watch a movie.

I wish if it was a party of 8 when the 5th person said skip it would skip for all. Majority ftw

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

29 Mar 2006 at 19:59 - 42

so by majority vote, a first time player could still miss a cutscene.

no way. I can tell you right now I watched every cutscene and only skipped it IF there was a mm and we needed the army to stay alive.

With factions coming out in a month. You can bet your ass I'll be watching those to and not skipping any the first time.

Teh Monkeys

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

29 Mar 2006 at 20:02 - 43

Just push the damn button. It's not like the cutscenes are actually worth watching.

Ashleigh McMahon

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Mo/Me

29 Mar 2006 at 20:02 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teh Monkeys

Just push the damn button. It's not like the cutscenes are actually worth watching.

Need I remind you, alot of people are interested in the storyline.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavrik

so by majority vote, a first time player could still miss a cutscene.

no way. I can tell you right now I watched every cutscene and only skipped it IF there was a mm and we needed the army to stay alive.

With factions coming out in a month. You can bet your ass I'll be watching those to and not skipping any the first time.

Same.I am really addicted to pvp and like to rp now and then.No way i'm skipping scenes

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

29 Mar 2006 at 20:08 - 45

Without cut scenes, one would never know why in one mission they're doing something, and in the next they're doing something totally contrary to the thing they were doing in the pevious mission!

Have some respect for the new players, and let them watch. They can be quite funny. I took my Mesmer (as party leader) through Riverside Province and at the end a couple of bad guys managed to get across the bridge with us. So the whole time the cut scene is playing, I'm standing there in my Victoria's secret armor getting beat on by the goons! - It was hillarious!

There's enough jerks running around whining about newbies who don't know everything there is to know about the game, even without the ones who COMPLAIN PROFUSELY about people not skipping. Think about how many times you've seen someone get razzed only because they asked a question in towns. I see it everyday and that's the kind of attitude that makes the "Biggest jerk" thread so long!

NOTE: This post has been spoiler-proofed for you convenience.

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

29 Mar 2006 at 20:16 - 46

Maybe there should be a new function in the option menu that makes it possible to either choose cutscenes or Tetris. If you choose Tetris, every time there should be a cutscene, you can play a nice game of Tetris!

Also, make it possible to replay cutscenes maybe? Every cutscene you could've seen, you can just watch some other time. This way, you can always watch them afterwards

Ashleigh McMahon

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Mo/Me

29 Mar 2006 at 20:19 - 47

Heh

But then again most cutscenes don't last too long, but hey, it would kill boredom.

I'm 100% for the people who want to watch the cutscenes, should be able to watch them.

I'm 100% against the people who think majority should win, and that new people should skip scenes even if they want to watch them.

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Originally Posted by Maxiemonster

Maybe there should be a new function in the option menu that makes it possible to either choose cutscenes or Tetris. If you choose Tetris, every time there should be a cutscene, you can play a nice game of Tetris!

Teklord

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Lloyd.ab.ca

Lords of All

R/Mo

29 Mar 2006 at 20:23 - 48

And I'm 100% with Ashleigh.

And I'm 100% against those who demonstrate this kind of attitude:

"Just click the dang button, its not like they're good or anything."
"The storyline sucks anyway"
"wah wah wah blah blah blah"

What force in this universe these people think gave them the right to decide what is 'good' and 'bad' or what other people should think about a given topic, leaves me baffled.

Hate

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Lions Arch

29 Mar 2006 at 20:25 - 49

Without the cutscenes and storyline its not much of an rpg is it?
I 100% agree with the first post.

Keeper of Birds

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Wrath of Silvana

N/Mo

29 Mar 2006 at 20:27 - 50

I always skip, but never resent or abuse those who don't. I have seen them all multiple times and there is nothing new for me, but I don't resent those who want to see them.

There are very few times when abusing another player is acceptable in my eyes, and not skipping cut scenes isn't anywhere near that list.

I do agree that not skipping when a MM is maintaining fiends is inconsiderate, particularly on missions where corpses are not just laying around everywhere.

One exception- the Hell's Precipice one where Rurik gets sent off is a must see. He is finally shut up! I never get tired of that.

Ashleigh McMahon

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Mo/Me

29 Mar 2006 at 20:27 - 51

I don't mean to be optimistic towards anet, but I think people who have seen the cutscenes should have a choice to watch them or not.
Regardless of one players decision, others still have the choice to watch or skip.

Ashleigh.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

29 Mar 2006 at 20:30 - 52

Of course, you don't have to skip cutscenes. And if someone asks "OK, who didn't skip?!?", say "wasn't me!"

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Originally Posted by Ashleigh

I don't mean to be optimistic towards anet, but I think people who have seen the cutscenes should have a choice to watch them or not.
Regardless of one players decision, others still have the choice to watch or skip.

How would that work? For ending cut scenes, i can see the option, but if the cut scene happens in the middle of a mission, I don't see how some could skip with some of the party hanging back to watch (if that's what you meant)?

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

29 Mar 2006 at 20:41 - 53

I bet the same people saying "i'm sick of newbies getting run everywhere and not knowing a damn thing about the game" are the same ones saying "OMG skip the cutscene!" which still results in a newbie not getting run, who wants to fight their way to still have no bloody idea what the hell is going on.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

29 Mar 2006 at 20:42 - 54

It doesn't matter to me. As long as it saved some minions and keep someone alive, than we can skip the cutscenes. But if it just some guildies doing a mission for fun and we happen to get someone who is new to this area, we'll usually let the cutscenes run.

cangeman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Point Of No Return [NORE]

N/

29 Mar 2006 at 20:43 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teklord

And I'm 100% with Ashleigh.

And I'm 100% against those who demonstrate this kind of attitude:

"Just click the dang button, its not like they're good or anything."
"The storyline sucks anyway"
"wah wah wah blah blah blah"

What force in this universe these people think gave them the right to decide what is 'good' and 'bad' or what other people should think about a given topic, leaves me baffled.

I agree with you. I also like the idea of the game pausing while cutscenes are being viewed or having them available to be viewed later.

Ashleigh McMahon

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Mo/Me

29 Mar 2006 at 20:43 - 56

I bet most the people who are saying "skip skip" were the ones wanting to watch it in there earlier days.

Still I stick with the idea"skip or don't skip, but don't make others do what you want, let them have there own decision"

Edit:Cangeman, you just gave me a great idea!

Maybe some sort of cutscene bank, where you can view in outposts and towns just for the fun of it, or to catch up on the latest.

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Originally Posted by Mavrik

I bet the same people saying "i'm sick of newbies getting run everywhere and not knowing a damn thing about the game" are the same ones saying "OMG skip the cutscene!" which still results in a newbie not getting run, who wants to fight their way to still have no bloody idea what the hell is going on.

Overnite

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

29 Mar 2006 at 20:49 - 57

I always watch the cutscenes but if someone doesn't want to watch the cutscenes, then it's his problem, not mine. I don't really care if 7 people want to skip a movie, since the worst thing they can do to me is calling me a noob or revealing some interesting facts about Vizier Khilbron, because they won't even dare to quit. The horror !

Ashleigh McMahon

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Mo/Me

29 Mar 2006 at 20:52 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overnite

I always watch the cutscenes but if someone doesn't want to watch the cutscenes, then it's his problem, not mine. I don't really care if 7 people want to skip a movie, since the worst thing they can do to me is calling me a noob or revealing some interesting facts about Vizier Khilbron, because they won't even dare to quit. The horror !

I agree here also.

If I want to watch, I don't skip.But as a previous poster stated, sometimes pressure is put on those who don't skip, because sometimes it is 7/8 people want to skip this cinematic.

Ps:Overnite, I edited your post because it may be offensive towards some people.

frickett

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Shinigami Keys [SHIN]

R/Mo

29 Mar 2006 at 20:55 - 59

I am playing through for my third time, and I have skipped cutscenes before, but lately I only skip if there is a minion master with a bunch of minions who would die. Otherwise I like watching, and dont want newbies feeling pressured into skipping.

Ashleigh McMahon

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Mo/Me

29 Mar 2006 at 20:57 - 60

I aswell have seen cutscenes over and over.I skip every time now, until factions ofc.I remember been pressured into skipping earlier on in my guild wars life, so sometimes I feel guilty if someone is like "sorry I didnt skip i aint seen this before".

Ashleigh.

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

29 Mar 2006 at 21:02 - 61

Did this once, and only once. My appologies to the group. Asked if they would skip the cut sceen (a rather lenghty one) as I had to leave in five minutes. (The rest of the mission after the cut scene can be done in a minute or two) Someone (maybe one of you?) refused to skip. I went AFK to do what I had to do. Came back an hour later and had the mission completed.

Ashleigh McMahon

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Mo/Me

29 Mar 2006 at 21:08 - 62

I respect it if people have real life things to do, but it's the people who are like "omg skip plzkthx" who are my problem.

Ashleigh.

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickmonty

Did this once, and only once. My appologies to the group. Asked if they would skip the cut sceen (a rather lenghty one) as I had to leave in five minutes. (The rest of the mission after the cut scene can be done in a minute or two) Someone (maybe one of you?) refused to skip. I went AFK to do what I had to do. Came back an hour later and had the mission completed.

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

29 Mar 2006 at 21:14 - 63

New players definately have every right to watch the scenes. It will be their first time experiencing the "story" and they'll naturally want to know what's going on.

The only time I think it "has" to be skipped is if there's a MM in the group. Otherwise, if you want to watch it...watch it. Nobody'll know it was you because it doesn't say who skipped and who didn't skip. Just say "Wasn't me..." when they say "OMG WHICH N00B DIDNT SKIP!!"...

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

29 Mar 2006 at 21:15 - 64

Again I have to say that anyone that wants to watch the cut scenes should state that before joining a group. they probably will miss out on a lot of groups but then again you don't have to deal with the griping and abuse. you can't have it both ways. I'm sorry life sucks like that but it is true. You can either get picked up in groups and miss the scenes most of the time or you can wait for a group that will accomodate your need to follow the story. Either way if you want to watch the cutscenes you better say something otherwise don't complain when everyone else jumps down your throat about not skipping.

EDIT: Also as for their "right", and I put it in quotes because it's not a right, to watch the cutscenes. If you want to bring that into it then you also have to respect the reciprocal of that. That being other people's right to not have to sit through them again. Experienced players have just as much of a right to not have to sit through the same boring thing. All of this could be solved by a little forethought and common courtesy while forming the group.

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

29 Mar 2006 at 21:28 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by Str0b0

EDIT: Also as for their "right", and I put it in quotes because it's not a right, to watch the cutscenes. If you want to bring that into it then you also have to respect the reciprocal of that. That being other people's right to not have to sit through them again. Experienced players have just as much of a right to not have to sit through the same boring thing. All of this could be solved by a little forethought and common courtesy while forming the group.

Yeah, I agree with that. If people want to skip...or not skip, it should be made clear BEFORE entering the mission. If nothing is said beforehand, then anything goes...

Another way to solve it would be to just remove the scenes altogether (and add a "view cinimatics" option on the main menu)...then the "noobs" will be able to watch to their hearts' content, and the "experienced players" will be able to save that precious 30 seconds of their time.

That or just remove the skip button...

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

29 Mar 2006 at 21:44 - 66

I never get tired of watching red engine die!

Hope that wasn't a spoiler for anyone new, the games been out for a year.

I like the idea of it being optional to watch or skip the cut scenes individually.

I think more people would re-watch the cut scenes if they were realistic and beautifully rendered like in the pre-game cinematics I watched before the launch of chapter 1 last year. The cut scenes are not very convincing when the characters mouths don't even move when they talk.

Ediit:Spoiler removed

edit: you forgot the spoiler below mine.

Orbberius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

29 Mar 2006 at 21:51 - 67

Rurik dies???

I like cutscenes, they give me some break time to look at something else other than the computer screen and do a few pushups or something.

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

29 Mar 2006 at 21:57 - 68

Until there's no sollution to this prob that suites all: if you want to see a cutscene, just watch it, don't let your fun be taken away by spoiled individuals who can't wait for a couple of minutes. Man people can be selfish. Make no illusions about it, I always skip, but have no prob if people want to see them. I enjoyed all the scenes the first time when I saw them almost a year ago, so why would I take that pleasure away from other players.

Ofcourse I agree with the exception that when you're in a running group, all want to get over with it fast.

kryshnysh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Valkyrie Einherjar

Mo/

29 Mar 2006 at 21:58 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stolen Souls

Yeah, I agree with that. If people want to skip...or not skip, it should be made clear BEFORE entering the mission. If nothing is said beforehand, then anything goes...

I agree. If you care strongly one way or another about the group as a whole, speak up. Generally I find though that the onus is on those who want to skip all of the scenes, as one person can stop the ability to skip scenes, whereas one person cannot force you to skip a scene. If you really want a group that skips, why not advertise as much beforehand?

KvanCetre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Madison Scouts

E/Mo

29 Mar 2006 at 22:17 - 70

I love the suggestion "Take henchmen"

Yes, all new players can do missions with henchmen. Alesia ftw.

Goats17

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

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The [GEAR] Trick

N/Me

29 Mar 2006 at 22:17 - 71

I completely agree. There should be a 'View Cutscene' button. That way, even if you are pressured to skip them. You can still see them.

Teklord

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Lloyd.ab.ca

Lords of All

R/Mo

29 Mar 2006 at 22:28 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by KvanCetre

I love the suggestion "Take henchmen"

Yes, all new players can do missions with henchmen. Alesia ftw.

Just like every other point made here, there is the counter-point. Experience players that wish to skip the scense can also take henchmen. In fact theoretically they should be better at it then the new person that just joined the game.

Is anyone else thinking "Kobayashi Maru" with this topic?

There is no ultimate solution for 'x' in this equation.

For KvanCetre: Yeah, I kinda thought you meant it.. even if you didn't, a few others here do I am sure. I think when people want to get sarcasm across they use "/sarcasm", just to be sure it is getting across.

KvanCetre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Madison Scouts

E/Mo

29 Mar 2006 at 22:34 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teklord

Just like every other point made here, there is the counter-point. Experience players that wish to skip the scense can also take henchmen. In fact theoretically they should be better at it then the new person that just joined the game.

Is anyone else thinking "Kobayashi Maru" with this topic?

There is no ultimate solution for 'x' in this equation.

It appears that my sarcasm was not potent enough. My apologies

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

29 Mar 2006 at 22:51 - 74

Anet left out who is not skipping (just x/x) to shiled them from people who want to "force skip" for a reason. That way no one knows who is not skipping.

As to let other "out" of the cutscene who want to skip, there will be the issue of X is "just" standing there and he must be watching the cutscene or worse out of anger, draw monster's on to them for not skipping.

RobotMULE

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/W

29 Mar 2006 at 22:58 - 75

The game is designed so that if 1 person wants to watch, that is their right. This is how ANet designed the game (which I agree with). So if you want to skip all the scenes, then it is your responsibility to make sure that the group all will skip, before starting the mission.

However I do think that you should not be able to die in the middle of a scene though, thats just retarded... But makes for some entertaining scenes though.

Eadric

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Texas

R/

29 Mar 2006 at 23:16 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teklord

Is anyone else thinking "Kobayashi Maru" with this topic?

Way too much StarTrek.

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

29 Mar 2006 at 23:24 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobotMULE

The game is designed so that if 1 person wants to watch, that is their right. This is how ANet designed the game (which I agree with). So if you want to skip all the scenes, then it is your responsibility to make sure that the group all will skip, before starting the mission.

However I do think that you should not be able to die in the middle of a scene though, thats just retarded... But makes for some entertaining scenes though.

I agree, almost any group with the proper communication would be willing to skip cutscenes, regardless of first time or veteran players... it is the lack of communication (and the occasional jerkwads) that results in long boring cutscenes, death of minions, or what I come to know it as:
Cutscene Catastrophe!

Kidney Licker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Europe Server

29 Mar 2006 at 23:34 - 78

This makes me think of my first time through the Ice Caves of Sorrow mission. We were approaching the movie scene and as normal someone says to skip the movie. Movie comes up and 7/8 skip, except for me, (I love the movies). Then in the background a Mursaat partrol comes along and starts attacking. In the movie you can see members of the party on fire and taking damage, and I'm sitting there going, c'mon finish already, we'll survive. Movie ends and a couple of people are dead and the rest lowish on health. We still managed to finish the mission, but it hasn't made me want to skip movies if I want to watch one. I just chuckle at the memory of the party standing around while getting attacked.

Hmm point of this post? I think the current system is fine. It makes for some funny moments at times, and it's a shame to for new players to skip out on the story. Its only a minute or too, and considering the missions normally take and hour or so its not going to or shouldn't make much difference.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

30 Mar 2006 at 00:01 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by Str0b0

EDIT: Also as for their "right", and I put it in quotes because it's not a right, to watch the cutscenes. If you want to bring that into it then you also have to respect the reciprocal of that. That being other people's right to not have to sit through them again. .

that is wrong.

the person who bought the game has the *right* to play the whole game including a few extra minutes of cutscenes.

it is only for a mission and not the full game with them.

there is no *reciprocal right* of someone who is impatient to spoil the fun of a person who wants to see what will happen in spite of screams of ive seen this before skip.

IS IT NOT FUNNY THAT ALL THE PEOPLE YELLING *SKIP* ARE ONES WHO HAVE ALREADY SEEN IT?

I`VE GOT MINE SO EVERYBODY ELSE SKIP BECAUSE I AM IN A HURRY

WELL BLEEP YOU

Sk23Von

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Michigan

W/E

30 Mar 2006 at 00:01 - 80

So here's the deal. The skip/no skip is anonymous, so there is no pressure. You are not required to skip cutscenes, nor should you be. The ONLY times when you absolutely should skip is when (A) you want to (B) you agreed to, or (C) your in a run.

People who complain about those who dont skip are ignorant. They knew there was a chance that someone wouldnt, they know they can't force someone to skip. Heres the deal, if you ABSOLUTELY NEED cutscenes skipped, play with your guildies or Henchies. Cutscenes are part of the game, and you have no right to force someone to miss part of the game they paid for because your so impatient a 30 second cutscene causes you physical pain.

If you are in a run, skip. If you previously agreed to skip, skip. Dont skip because everyone else wants to, dont skip because they will whine afterwards. If they ask who didnt skip, just say you did, not like they can prove u wrong.

Honestly though, I have the solution to the problem. When the cutscene comes up, have it require 75% of the votes to skip. But add in a feature that lets people watch the cutscenes outside of the mission! Just have a little flag in the programming, when PlayerX reaches this cutscene, make it available for viewing outside of the mission. There we go, problem solved.