So what happened to 6 x 100% content math

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crimsonfilms
Wilds Pathfinder
#1
Uhm Faction PvE char cant access mission previous to LA and Prophecies char can't access the island.

Uhm yea 6 x 100% huh.

Lets hear the defense on this one.
Thallandor
Thallandor
Desert Nomad
#2
Wisdom in the modern capitalist world:

Dont always believe what people who want your money tell you.



btw i think you can still do PvE quest and mission(havent tried) with Factions toons that come to Tyria.
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lauriepriest
Ascalonian Squire
#3
tbh everything prior to lions arch sucks and is mind numbingly easy. and you can get ASCENDED prophecies characters to Factions.
TRUEgamer
TRUEgamer
Frost Gate Guardian
#4
My Tyrian char got to the noob island just fine. I'm having no issues at all.
Thallandor
Thallandor
Desert Nomad
#5
I think what the OP means is that prophecies characters that travel to the Island where new Cantha toons are born are not able to do the 2 co-op missions on the starting Island.

So far my Cantha toon travelled back from LA to ascolon and have been able to access quest but havent tried to access mission but i dont think they cant access them, will have to check on that. I hate buying skills hence travelling back to Tyria to get the skill quest is a good way for me to reduce on my expenditure on skills which i otherwise will have to buy in Cantha.
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rollntider
Lion's Arch Merchant
#6
The story arc doesnt make sence to do mission before LA, you cant go back in time. You also have access to skills. You can still go to ascalon you just cant do quests that dont chronologically make sence.
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crimsonfilms
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
You guys are missing the point. No matter if you think the quests are boring but Gaile (calling you out again) made that silly math about Factions and merging accounts.
Thallandor
Thallandor
Desert Nomad
#8
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Originally Posted by rollntider
The story arc doesnt make sence to do mission before LA, you cant go back in time. You also have access to skills. You can still go to ascalon you just cant do quests that dont chronologically make sence.
At this stage i care less about the story than to get skills for my character, i will have to check if my Cantha toon can do the skill quest around ascolon and the missions like Northern Wall or Naloni for example just for fun. But back to presearing isnt what i think the issue is about.
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonfilms
Uhm Faction PvE char cant access mission previous to LA and Prophecies char can't access the island.

Uhm yea 6 x 100% huh.

Lets hear the defense on this one.
Last i checked you couldnt got back to pre-searing on a regular account anyway.

Think of it this way. Each character has access to 100% of the game.

If you choose tyria, your first 20% is Ascalon to LA.
If you choose cantha, your first 20% is the Jing Shea area.

Now.....

Once you have used up 20%, how can you say that it was deprived from you?
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calamitykell
Banned
#10
Actually, OP is correct.

The 6x100 was advertised in that all 6 characters would have access to 100% of the content. Meaning 100% from both. Obviously excluding Pre-Sear.

However, Tyrians can't access most areas on the Shing Jea Island. That's a minus content%.

Canthans can't access missions pre-Lion's Arch, so I hear. That's a minus contect%.

So, merging accounts, no single character gets 100% content. Maybe 90% if Tyrian, and 75-80% if Canthan.
LoKi Foxfire
LoKi Foxfire
Krytan Explorer
#11
All I want is to get my 100% exploration title for Cantha. I hope it doesn't involve the areas that I can't get to. :<
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calamitykell
Banned
#12
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Originally Posted by LoKi Foxfire
All I want is to get my 100% exploration title for Cantha. I hope it doesn't involve the areas that I can't get to. :<
If it's a Tyrian character, don't bother with the title.
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CK0
Frost Gate Guardian
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thallandor
Wisdom in the modern capitalist world:
Dont always believe what people who want your money tell you.
I am going to have to remember that quote. Great one!

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Originally Posted by calamitykell
If it's a Tyrian character, don't bother with the title.
Yup, I had to find out the hard way. Found a player doing the "A Formal Introduction" quest because I thought if I tagged along, I would be able to get in the blocked area (Minister Cho's Estate), but nope. The party separated and I was stuck outside.

With a growing dissapointment in Factions, the bad is tipping the scale outweighing the good. I'm going to play these last days of the extended head start before making a more concrete conclusion. With all the 'mistakes', and 'lack of action' from ANET, they are starting to manifest, in my mind, to being this leeching creature that just wants our money. Not telling us certain things, misleading us, glitches, etc. I'm not one to be totally one-sided; I know they extended their helping hand out and extended the 'head-start' event due to the CE delay, and probably have done a many other good, postive things, but I can't shake the feeling of deceptiveness in every action. (Little petty things they add in-game, to "extend" the content. Hidden gold sinks. )
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Navaros
Forge Runner
#14
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Originally Posted by rollntider
The story arc doesnt make sence to do mission before LA, you cant go back in time. You also have access to skills. You can still go to ascalon you just cant do quests that dont chronologically make sence.
Who cares about the story?

To me and a lot of players, what doesn't make sense is to deny the characters of people who own both games full access to both games with all their characters.

It is especially bad since it denies the ability to get some titles with those characters.

Definitely high on the list of "Reasons why Factions is not a good buy" in my view.
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salaboB
Academy Page
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by rollntider
The story arc doesnt make sence to do mission before LA, you cant go back in time. You also have access to skills. You can still go to ascalon you just cant do quests that dont chronologically make sence.
I beat the game with an unascended character once. Then I went back and ascended, then started completing the missions backwards.

The story already doesn't make sense, time-wise. Allowing Factions characters to participate in the Ascalon part wouldn't make it any worse.
Thallandor
Thallandor
Desert Nomad
#16
Woah, calling other forum members iliterate, weak minded, dumb and laughable when we are discussing valid issues about access to content for those who link both their chapters and more specifically how it may affect some title mechanics.

I didnt realise trolling could take such an elegant form these days.
MasterDinadan
MasterDinadan
Krytan Explorer
#17
All six character SLOTS have the potential to reach 100% of the content. This means you have six slots to use for any content you choose. That doesn't mean that one character can do everything, but has the potential to do ANYTHIGN
VGJustice
VGJustice
Desert Nomad
#18
The only thing that bugs me is that I can't complete the titles for my Tyrian character in Cantha.

Maybe if they introduced a different title for Tyrians in Cantha, with reduced requirements to better match what is actually available to them, then it wouldn't bug me so much. I honestly don't care that my l33t Ranger of Barraging doom can't go into the newbie missions and own them like I know he would, those missions are there to aid in player training. But, it is disquieting that I'll end up with an 11/13 Canthan missions completed with him, and knowing that I'll never ever be able to max it out for the last 2, thus being denied that title permanently.
Raziel665
Raziel665
Krytan Explorer
#19
I fail to see why Canthan chars dont have acces to the pre-Lions Arch missions? All you need to do is take the explorable area's around them to back track.
May seem like too much work, but it would add to your explorer title.
Cash
Cash
Wilds Pathfinder
#20
dont have factions yet, so im a little confused. i realize that with a combined acct, any chars started in cantha go to LA when they get to tyria.

its probably possible to run backwards to all the towns, but is the OP saying that none of the MISSIONS are available ...thus preventing any canthan character from ever clearing the whole tyrian map?

i can understand not having to/being able to do the crappy little quests from ascalon to LA (even though i would like to be able to for the skills gained), but not letting a char even attempt a mission is VERY much denying it access to 100% of tyria, which is totally in opposition to what all of us were led to believe with the "6 x 100%" promise. i mean honestly, theres enough lvl 20s doing the early missions anyway so why would it matter? (FYI - completing the missions after reaching lvl 20 actually gives a character a slight edge with skill points)

guess im going to pass on factions for a while longer. this doesnt sound good to me. plus, until i get more storage, i dont have any more frickin room to store new weapons, armor, etc, etc.