well i, playig GW since the late stages of the BETA am also a millionaire. Accumulated 1 million gold in storage and about 50-60k on one of my chars. Also have around 95 ecto and 100 shards. ordered my 15k armors across all chars and can easily go buy a 2nd FoW set if i really needed. but i dont. Not too bad I think.
I am proud to say i didnt turn to ebay to make myself a success. For me, it was farming before the rune trader came out. hill giants in riverside. made a killing...ever since then it was farming greens or just spotting a good deal when i saw it and selling for a higher price. i have more money than i will ever want or need. but it helps when u have 5 PVE chars to have a lot of money so that you can buy runes and decetn weapons for them. the key to it is knowing where you can make the money. screw ebay.
GuildWars Millionaires everywhere! (?)
Canook
Tufty
try funk ebay next time lol
Canook
crap! thought i'd catch it before anyone saw hahaha
UnreaL Pero
Today, its hard to earn money big... why? because, guild wars economy is diffrent than that before 6-7 months... less noobs, for buy & sell trick..
Tufty
ah yes the con artist's of Guild wars! It's nice to see Guild wars has its own society with not only helpfull people who work hard but the scum as well. God Bless Guild Wars
Lawnmower
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Anyone else notice that people are buying things lately for amounts in excess of 100k +50 ectos? I mean, I've been playing the game for what I consider to be a long time. Just under 6 months, many hours, probably a little shy of 600. Consider myself to be intermediate to professional player and this kind of money is still very much out of my grasp. Where to people get all the cash!? I don't believe for a SECOND that they're sitting in town buying and reselling things to make that kind of coin, nor do I think it's possible to "farm" for this kinda cash. I dunno, seems as if everyone's a millionaire. I like to browse eBay for GuildWars stuff to view the skins on items, and see how insane some things are priced. At the moment, eBay gold is about 74.95USD for 1000k, 3 weeks ago it was 38USD for 1000k. This indicates an influx of people buying. So, I'll have to assume the greater population of GuildWars players is eBaying it, then saying they "farmed" it. It's a shame really... Why? Because without eBay, things wouldn't sell for excess of 100k often, or possibly at all. Shame really. Just want a Gothic Sword with +5 energy mod for my pretty Necress... Rant ended   |
people love to keep playing the game, I think there needs to be more optional money sinks, and things to get. we need a wider arrange of wanted things.
why should only runes be worth anything? lets make 10,000 other rare materials and weapons and other crazy stuff to add to the flavor of the world.
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Originally Posted by Rok
Losers with no time to farm buy ebay gold from the sweatshop bot farmers.
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Getting money from GW, is not so difficult if you take immediately advantage of the new farming trends as soon as they are discovered. Some people made fortune by farming the ettins runes, by farming UW, by having a few HoD swords in storage they could sell for 200k each.
Of course, some people will buy gold on ebay. But seriously, what does it change in your life?
A??rendil
well i'm one of those millionairs. Having > 1000k and quite a few ectos and worthless shards. I have all my bags full with goldies/greenies/materials all either good-excellent. How did i do this?
I farmed at places that were easy to farm just once in a while. Now i have this 1000k. I lately gave someone 200k, and i didn't even noticed. A few days later and it was back full.
This has nothing to do with bragging, but if people would just stop buying stuff, and just get it, then you will see that you will gain more money. Ofcourse buying something isn't a bad thing, but buying everytime until your pockets are empty is , i think dumb.
I farmed at places that were easy to farm just once in a while. Now i have this 1000k. I lately gave someone 200k, and i didn't even noticed. A few days later and it was back full.
This has nothing to do with bragging, but if people would just stop buying stuff, and just get it, then you will see that you will gain more money. Ofcourse buying something isn't a bad thing, but buying everytime until your pockets are empty is , i think dumb.
ProGamer777
I see no problem with people buying gold off eBay. Hey, that means more people who are capable of buying the things I want to unload (but not merch). Without eBay, how many people would seriously be able to buy minipets, or Zodiacs, or anything like that?
The gold would be there, regardless of who has it. The farmers don't spend it; the people who buy it do, and it puts it in my (and your) hands.
The gold would be there, regardless of who has it. The farmers don't spend it; the people who buy it do, and it puts it in my (and your) hands.
fiery
Spent my whole storage farmed for 5 hours between 2 days im at 100 k . Feels good to farm now I need to max it out again.
Um ya you should have a problem with EBAYING GOLD, it's against the rules and EULA.
. Feels good to farm now I need to max it out again.Um ya you should have a problem with EBAYING GOLD, it's against the rules and EULA.
ProGamer777
Okay, aside from that, it doesn't harm anybody.
And no, for the record, I do not partake. I simply don't find it harmful.
And no, for the record, I do not partake. I simply don't find it harmful.
guppy
umm.. yes it does harm people.. it harms the games economy and invariably people! But enough about ebay, we all know that the reason people can ebay is because of bots and farming :P
Just out of curiousity, why didn't they try to change the skill protective spirit when 55 monks came out? I would have thought that the game economy would not be so bad since farming would not be nearly as common.
As for affording mini-pets.. do you really think everyone ebays? No :P, they are cheap like me and look for in game methods to get their gold. But I have to agree with this:
"but the divide between the average player and the mega rich player, is only getting larger."
As a newer player to the game, I found that it is VERY hard to introduce yourself into the market without already playing for a long time and by the time you finish the game.. just maybe have enough to buy/sell your way up. The problem? You finished the game! Now time for pvp and farming for good weapons? Not to be offending, but the PvE of guild wars isn't something to brag about and the fact that there is no affordable economy in the game doesn't help very much for newer players to the game. Imagine joining now and without having a 55 monk.. I can only guess how many hours of play are required before someone can actually be able to spend 20k easily a few times.
Just out of curiousity, why didn't they try to change the skill protective spirit when 55 monks came out? I would have thought that the game economy would not be so bad since farming would not be nearly as common.
As for affording mini-pets.. do you really think everyone ebays? No :P, they are cheap like me and look for in game methods to get their gold. But I have to agree with this:
"but the divide between the average player and the mega rich player, is only getting larger."
As a newer player to the game, I found that it is VERY hard to introduce yourself into the market without already playing for a long time and by the time you finish the game.. just maybe have enough to buy/sell your way up. The problem? You finished the game! Now time for pvp and farming for good weapons? Not to be offending, but the PvE of guild wars isn't something to brag about and the fact that there is no affordable economy in the game doesn't help very much for newer players to the game. Imagine joining now and without having a 55 monk.. I can only guess how many hours of play are required before someone can actually be able to spend 20k easily a few times.
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I can make 100k easily in a day farming this is with no other player interaction
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well i'm one of those millionairs. Having > 1000k and quite a few ectos and worthless shards. I have all my bags full with goldies/greenies/materials all either good-excellent. How did i do this?
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The Herbalizer
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I've heard people say thing again and again and they allways fail to prove it. I've even gone with ppl to help them do their so called "100k a day farming" and they allways have "bad luck". These people never say WHERE they farm, or HOW they farm. Everything is allways a secret or just happens to not work that day. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Str0b0
It has little to do with EBay and more to do with the fast leveling curve in this game. It takes what? A week? maybe two to get a character through the game? That's just playing casually. Ok so after that what do you do? PvP? Well yes you can but some of us don't like that part of the game so what do we do? We go looking for loot. When you eventually have everything you want what else is there to do? Find more loot and help people out. During the course of those two activities you can gather an awful lot of loot. When you have nothing to spend it on it accumulates rather quickly. I blew 750K on new characters in factions and I've still got over 300K just from what was left over and fro playing through the game, not farming mind you just playing through. The new drop tables make it easy too. I got some hella nice dagger the other day, plagueborn skin which isn't rare but the mods were nice. Max damage req.7 15% damage always. Armor -10, Armor +7 and hit points +30. Sold those for 100K + 3 ecto. It's ridiculously easy to make money without having to resort to EBay. It's all a matter of getting where you want to be and then saving.
GranDeWun
>>>"but the divide between the average player and the mega rich player, is only getting larger."
Just like RL...
Just like RL...
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um 10k an hour farming for 10 hours is 100k. 100k a day is rubbish. can most probably earn that using the trolls at drok who are the most useless farmable things in the game lol. people dont say so people who cant think for themselves can jack their stuff. heck i was running drok after the update which made it harder for 3/4k a person. running for hours on end earned me a nice amount of gold. now you can barely fill a group with the amount of people having ago at it. what you got to do is actually think and not have a mentallity that anything other than what is said on forums and in-game is the only way.
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during the height of my trading career i could clear a 2 mil profit per week...and do it with selling less than 3 dozen items. and in trade, once you make a name for yourself, you often dont even have to look for things; people you dont even know will literally pm you out fo the blue trying to sell you crap you dont need...but what the heck...you can make a 100k profit on it.
Aqua Nox
well the reason everyone wasnt a millionaire is because of people like road runna lol
actually i could name quite a few millionaires off the top of my head that earn their gold legitly... including myself =/
actually i could name quite a few millionaires off the top of my head that earn their gold legitly... including myself =/
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I've heard people say thing again and again and they allways fail to prove it. I've even gone with ppl to help them do their so called "100k a day farming" and they allways have "bad luck". These people never say WHERE they farm, or HOW they farm. Everything is allways a secret or just happens to not work that day. I'll believe it when I see it.
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The Herbalizer
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i believe those 100k a day guys...and i still laugh at them.
during the height of my trading career i could clear a 2 mil profit per week...and do it with selling less than 3 dozen items. and in trade, once you make a name for yourself, you often dont even have to look for things; people you dont even know will literally pm you out fo the blue trying to sell you crap you dont need...but what the heck...you can make a 100k profit on it. |
tuldor
Another easy one, chest farm at Nahpui Quarter, perfect celestial weapons are fairly frequent and they sell quite easy. But I don't know what happened, most of the items I drop now are perfect or near perfect... Frequent now to drop a +29HP mod or else...
Mournblade
Begone troll.
Hey tuldor, care to hazzard a guess as to the frequency of celestial drops in your experience? I'm up to about 12 chests so far with nothing more than purple junk. I want an axe something fierce but can't afford the 150k price tag. =)
Hey tuldor, care to hazzard a guess as to the frequency of celestial drops in your experience? I'm up to about 12 chests so far with nothing more than purple junk. I want an axe something fierce but can't afford the 150k price tag. =)
Sid Doog
I made all of my money farming SF greens and buying low selling high , i have 700 in storage and 3 sets of Fissure now i am just buying weapons for my char perfect ones, but after that i am board. I never got into pvp i have always only played pve 
, i have 700 in storage and 3 sets of Fissure now i am just buying weapons for my char perfect ones, but after that i am board. I never got into pvp i have always only played pve
Sirkaze
Care to give a poor man some cash? you rich people!
Engel the Fallen
I honestly do not get how people can remain very poor.
Just by doing the main quest in the game you make 30k if you trade for amber or jade and sell, plus most missions nets a few grand worth of drops.
Add in now smart farming of Chapter 1 and smart salvaging and you can easily make 100k in a week.
Farm smart, and keep at it.
Or just sit in an outpost spamming WTS amber 2k and alternate with WTS amber 4k. A few guildies of mine made quite a bit of money off people who do not care what they pay for things.
As for people saying the high yield farm areas are still a secret, look at the other forums here. That spider farming thread is months and months old, as is the ettin farming one. Those were the two ways most people with time hit a million a fast. Spiders a good run nets 3 to 4 shards, and a few golds from chests. Ettins you can hit a few 5k to 10k runes and have a shot at a Sup Vigor.
Just by doing the main quest in the game you make 30k if you trade for amber or jade and sell, plus most missions nets a few grand worth of drops.
Add in now smart farming of Chapter 1 and smart salvaging and you can easily make 100k in a week.
Farm smart, and keep at it.
Or just sit in an outpost spamming WTS amber 2k and alternate with WTS amber 4k. A few guildies of mine made quite a bit of money off people who do not care what they pay for things.
As for people saying the high yield farm areas are still a secret, look at the other forums here. That spider farming thread is months and months old, as is the ettin farming one. Those were the two ways most people with time hit a million a fast. Spiders a good run nets 3 to 4 shards, and a few golds from chests. Ettins you can hit a few 5k to 10k runes and have a shot at a Sup Vigor.
Str0b0
Ebay Ebay Ebay....what are you people broken records? I have never, will never and despise Ebay usage....am I rich in game? Damned straight I am. Why? Because I recognize patterns and trends. I swear I posted on this very board that crafting materials, both rare and common would be worth a ton in Factions....well I was right. I banked em up, sold them when the trader ran out and made a killing. I blew 750K on my new toons and banked that back up inside of a day. All you have to have is some modicum of business sense and the ability to recognize trends. If you can't do this then I might recommend never investing in stocks. It's easy to get money in this game. Once you have what you need all you can do is save it anyway. So stop crying EBay just because you don't have a knack for making gold in this game. It's not like it's all that important anyway but I am tired of being called an EBayer when I've never once bought game currency in my life.
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I've played for a year and haven't even reached 60k.
I think it's because I spend it when I get it, or just splash out on materials and stuff- and I make alot of pve characters alot, and buy max armors for them, often. I too am worried where people get this money. I'm not accusing them of anything, but alot of people just get lucky with drops... or maybe just have alot of time on there hands farming. Ashleigh |
Maria The Princess
you all are forgetting bots.
record action (55 elona farming), run GW and have the bot repeat action, go to work/sleep/vacation, come back to a 100k in your inventory and an anti farming code which is easy to reset.
there is a risk of getting your account deleted, so i'm just not takin it, there fore im broke (lol), but thats how ebay sellers make the gold to sell, and i'm sure they use it for themselves as well.
go to Elona, and see all the Mo/W runing alomh the wall to the merchat
record action (55 elona farming), run GW and have the bot repeat action, go to work/sleep/vacation, come back to a 100k in your inventory and an anti farming code which is easy to reset.
there is a risk of getting your account deleted, so i'm just not takin it, there fore im broke (lol), but thats how ebay sellers make the gold to sell, and i'm sure they use it for themselves as well.
go to Elona, and see all the Mo/W runing alomh the wall to the merchat
Fitz Rinley
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Anyone else notice that people are buying things lately for amounts in excess of 100k +50 ectos? I mean, I've been playing the game for what I consider to be a long time. Just under 6 months, many hours, probably a little shy of 600.
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I agree that there is e-bay traffic. If E-bay were ethical they would not allow these transactions. They do not choose to be ethical however. There are also people that have huge reserves made when the game was in beta or shortly after. That created a top tier economy for the langest standing players and a bottom tier for all successive waves. A few may climb to the previous level, but ONLY with NON-CASUAL play.
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This indicates an influx of people buying. So, I'll have to assume the greater population of GuildWars players is eBaying it, then saying they "farmed" it. It's a shame really...
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I hadn't heard of th Gothic Sword yet, but it would be very useful. I have long wished ANet would start providing items for all possible combinations.
Fitz
The Herbalizer
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Collect 105+ectos and shards for one suit of armor without farming for them, I dare ya.
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asmo
i assume the Gothic Sword is one of the collectors weapons in Divine Path(area after last mission). the collector there has weapons (sword, axe, hammer, long/short bow, sai) with +5 energy at no cost. basically the new HoD.
M C H A M M E R
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If you spend real life money to get someting in a GAME thats just sad. Time to step away from the monitor wipe the cheetos off your face and move out of your parents basement.
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Tijger
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Freaking eBay queens. I guess it's no REAL major deal... but eBay queens are lame. They're the dudes switching green weapons in your group and hitting alt+left click on them. URGH!  |
I personally find the idea of paying real money for game money/items laughable but some people have more sense then money I guess
ElinoraNeSangre
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exactly, i still do not understand why people think 100k a day is impossible. i would be embarrased to admit i did not know how to make more than a 100k in a day.
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Alternately, however, I don't really worry about how much money other people have. I've seen people make money selling stuff to players, I've seen people do it through creative farming, 55 monking, just playing the game, any number of ways. There's room for everyone, and it's not worth it to begrudge what someone has and you don't have. There's too much fun to be had in this darn game for that, IMO. Sure, I want some money - I am drooling on enough 15k to make my head spin. But if I want it, I'll find a way to do it (in ways that don't violate the EULA).
Now for the self admitted snark that I normally don't indulge in here:
Could someone point me to the post where someone said that everyone in the game that has a lot of gold got it on ebay? I think I missed the part that said "everyone", but I see a lot of people talking as if someone accused everyone of it. Am I missing the bus here, or are people just jumping to conclusions because the evil word ebay was mentioned? Is there some kind of historical precident for people to be so defensive about the topic?
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i believe those 100k a day guys...and i still laugh at them.
during the height of my trading career i could clear a 2 mil profit per week...and do it with selling less than 3 dozen items. and in trade, once you make a name for yourself, you often dont even have to look for things; people you dont even know will literally pm you out fo the blue trying to sell you crap you dont need...but what the heck...you can make a 100k profit on it. |
What the hell do you even NEED 2mil a week for anyway?
The moment you start thinking of this game in terms of 'how much money i made last week' or 'how much profit i got last week', i would suggest getting yourself a new hobby. To find people dumb enough to allow you to get 2mil a week must take some time, time i think you should be spending elsewhere.
Str0b0
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That is more sad than anything... perhaps someone needs to introduce you to this thing called fun... theres a whole game outside of Lions Arch and GWguru Forums/Auctions, i suggest you try it, you might like it.
What the hell do you even NEED 2mil a week for anyway? The moment you start thinking of this game in terms of 'how much money i made last week' or 'how much profit i got last week', i would suggest getting yourself a new hobby. To find people dumb enough to allow you to get 2mil a week must take some time, time i think you should be spending elsewhere. |
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Could someone point me to the post where someone said that everyone in the game that has a lot of gold got it on ebay? I think I missed the part that said "everyone", but I see a lot of people talking as if someone accused everyone of it. Am I missing the bus here, or are people just jumping to conclusions because the evil word ebay was mentioned? Is there some kind of historical precident for people to be so defensive about the topic?
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This indicates an influx of people buying. So, I'll have to assume the greater population of GuildWars players is eBaying it, then saying they "farmed" it. It's a shame really...
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awesome sauce
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Also, are minipets worth that much? cus i got a purple titan one for my bday im still hanging on to
Sereng Amaranth
The other morning I had 12k total across all characters and storage. Well that was gold only.
1 hour later I had 193k gold.
And whoever said that crafting materials isn't profitable, well it isn't anymore, but I made many plat from crafting vellum. And I didn't farm specifically for the wood or dust. I just did my regular questing thru Furnace and FoW and salvaged everything I got.
1 hour later I had 193k gold.
And whoever said that crafting materials isn't profitable, well it isn't anymore, but I made many plat from crafting vellum.
And I didn't farm specifically for the wood or dust. I just did my regular questing thru Furnace and FoW and salvaged everything I got.
sinisters chaos
Ehh,,, you said that u dont think we sit in town and buy and resell stuff... ur wrong hehe, i can say that probably 75% of mymillionaire friends and i all buy/resell. I have made over 1 million reselling one item from a nub, to a nub.
Fitz Rinley
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And that argument is more sad than anything and yet it always comes up time and time again. Let me break it down for you. Fun is subjective. Now that's a multisyllabic word so let me give a simple definition. Subjective means that it is a matter of personal preference. that means that if people enjoy grabbing loot then that is fun for them. I know that's what I like the most. I like finding valuable loot and making gold. That is fun to me. See the for me part. That's subjective. Being poor isn't fun. Ask a poor person they will tell you it sucks. Then take a look at all the whining about the economy and then you tell me being poor is fun. If it was so cracker jack to be poor then there wouldn't be all these gripes about how people can't afford things in game. When you people who use this whole fun argument come up with your magical fun-o-meter that can scientifically calculate the amount of fun that each individual person is having at any given moment then you let me know. Until that nebulous point in the future come up with a better argument.
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I ahve been in groups where someone stated flat out they purchased their gold on E-bay because there is insufficient amount of real world time for them as a player to make any. They indicated that 2 hours worth of real wages ($15.00) was worth the 100,000k so they could do what they want. That the price is reportedly now in the $70+ range indicates two things, demand still exists and ANets previous efforts at making things unattainable only fueled that demand.
It is the same with the drug economy. As long as drugs are in Prohibition there will remain a highly priced illegal market for it. As soon as they become regulated the market will fall equal to the ammount the Prohibition is lessened. E-bay gold, lile drugs, will never go completely away. It will however cease to be a thriving economy if it has little market to the casual gamer who has other demands on their time besides farming when the boss isn't looking over their shoulder or instead of doing their homework.
Fitz