R/N Farming vs .... pretty much whatever

Hanego Ategeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RebelHero
- Lian, Block the casters from behind the wall so their attacks cant reach you, then kill the knights. Run away and regen, run back in to kill the ritualist and the mesmer, maybe the mage. Run out and regen again then head back in for the final kill.
This is excellent tactical advice. In general, these fights are made much easier by using geometry to block ranged hits on you. Use this trick whenever you can.

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Originally Posted by RebelHero
I stay by my first comment that in my opinion Milthurans Staff is the best option for Touch Rangers, at least the best cheap option. You can solo him because he is just too easy. The 20/20 mods dont help you much, but it does add +1 to Blood 20% of the time. I like the Blood offhand with +1 Blood, and it's very easy to get, though nothing is as easy as Milt's that I know of. You can get from collector in marketplace (I think) for 5 putrids or something similar.

RebelHero

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

I cleared the entire Wajjun Bazaar as a touch ranger... I just cant kill the group The Smiter Boss is with... or thay CAN kill me, that seems to be the problem

Skyy Forn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanego Ategeh
Notes on killing Xuekao:

I just did this to see if I would still rate it easy.

My time of 7 minutes from zone in to dead Xuekao puts it in my medium difficulty category by time, but its still not hard.

I killed 3 Jades, killed 3 or 4 Am Fah, killed 1 Am Fah Healer, recharged, killed Xuekao.
Can someone walk me through this? Every time I enage him, not only does a necro and a healer pop up, but shortly after wards, 3 more Am Fah's show up (2 assassins and another healer). The are not spawned before I engage, so I can't take them out solo. I also can't knock out a single guy before they show up and rain on my parade. After they spawn, Xuekao always has 6 people his entourage.

Once, because I died at an odd time, hsi forces were split such that the jade killed all of his healers. Then I was able to take them down via hit and run. I've never been able to repeat this.

Maybe the 3 delayed guys are new. I can see how this would be cake w/o them.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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For me instead of going the way in all the old videos(Straight into xuekao) I go past him then go up on the right side. If you go up that way and aggro him then run all the way out of the place onto the grassy parts you can usually get him + his 2 allies alone while the rest fight the jade.

With this the pop down groups usually don't aggro because your out by the time they start moving.

Hanego Ategeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy Forn
Can someone walk me through this? Every time I enage him, not only does a necro and a healer pop up, but shortly after wards, 3 more Am Fah's show up (2 assassins and another healer). The are not spawned before I engage, so I can't take them out solo. I also can't knock out a single guy before they show up and rain on my parade. After they spawn, Xuekao always has 6 people his entourage.

Once, because I died at an odd time, hsi forces were split such that the jade killed all of his healers. Then I was able to take them down via hit and run. I've never been able to repeat this.

Maybe the 3 delayed guys are new. I can see how this would be cake w/o them. This is how it worked when I tried it last, which was a couple weeks ago now:

Run from Maatu, kill two Jades outside the fort thing that Xuekao is in. Kill solitary Jade facing you on a nearby hill (a Warrior, iirc).

Pop Marksmen (there are four). Use geometry to pull them away from their traps then kill them.

Wait for all the traps to fire if necessary, then put Xuekao in your aggro bubble, and run towards where you killed first two Jades. Play with aggro a little if necessary to strip off any helpers, then kill Xuekao.

They may have added more spawns but that's what respondents said the first time as well. They did add some spawns since the first time (which was honestly so laughably easy that it started me on the rampage that this thread documents), but I don't think they have done it twice. I may be wrong.

Skyy Forn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Yeah if i pull him out early, I can split his forces up. I managed to get him down 1st try after this advice. I wasn't pretty, but its a workable. thanks again!

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

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can add delic the vengeance seeker to the hit list, solely based on time its hard, but not too bad. run from leviathon pits to rheas (you can bypass all the outcasts). the shrine is melandru if we have favor. you'll have to pull and kill about 5 or 6 patrols of outcasts. When you pop Delic (its a popup boss) use the corner to peel away his mob and take them all first - you may need to go out once or more to regen. I use no plague touch, just vamps/oob/throw/whirling/lightning/dodge AND zojuns haste. Delic has a self heal so its an endurance game, but keep at him and he falls nicely. communing wand is the prize.
I've been working on timing to get Aurius in same run, but he keeps getting ganked by the carps, any hints?

Hanego Ategeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

lennymon, you're one up on me. I was able to clear to Delic np but wasn't able to make the kill.

As for Arius, the times I have been succesful killing, I went the other way, from Aurios, and past Lorelle. Takes a long time, and you kind of have to clear the fight area of about 3-4 groups of roaming outcasts, as well as clear a bunch of Leviathan/Rockhides, because otherwise it's next to impossible to get past them ... long, long clear.

Hanego Ategeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy Forn
Yeah if i pull him out early, I can split his forces up. I managed to get him down 1st try after this advice. I wasn't pretty, but its a workable. thanks again! Congrats, hope you got a green drop.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanego Ategeh
lennymon, you're one up on me. I was able to clear to Delic np but wasn't able to make the kill.

As for Arius, the times I have been succesful killing, I went the other way, from Aurios, and past Lorelle. Takes a long time, and you kind of have to clear the fight area of about 3-4 groups of roaming outcasts, as well as clear a bunch of Leviathan/Rockhides, because otherwise it's next to impossible to get past them ... long, long clear. yeah ok got aurius down now, after delic easily repeatable, the Delic kill depends on luck in timing your faster recharge btw (im going to get get the collector blood wand from shenzen tunnels in order to run 2x20%recharge 20/20 blood knife off hand). Delic isnt dangerous per se, just have to outpace his healing. I took lorelle also yesterday, but she's dangerous, and harder to take down than delic, had to actually run away twice. Now if anyone can tell me how to take out the bridge onis for ungues I'll be a happy farmer.

Hanego Ategeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lennymon
yeah ok got aurius down now, after delic easily repeatable, the Delic kill depends on luck in timing your faster recharge btw (im going to get get the collector blood wand from shenzen tunnels in order to run 2x20%recharge 20/20 blood knife off hand). Delic isnt dangerous per se, just have to outpace his healing. I took lorelle also yesterday, but she's dangerous, and harder to take down than delic, had to actually run away twice. Now if anyone can tell me how to take out the bridge onis for ungues I'll be a happy farmer. Cool, congrats on this. I'll try it again on Friday if I can -- too much to do till then.

MelechRic

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by lennymon
Now if anyone can tell me how to take out the bridge onis for ungues I'll be a happy farmer. It's nearly impossible to outheal them w/ a toucher. I've resorted to the old fashioned Pin Down + Hunter's Shot + Poison Arrow + run like hell! trick.

Works, but it's slow.

FYI:
In case it's not in the thread (I'm too lazy to look) Quansong Spiritspeak is farmable with a touch necro:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...01&postcount=2

RebelHero

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

Fastes way of farming Ungues of The Oni is still the Rt/Me build... 12 dead oni in 50 seconds...

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

blah blah I rage,

Fossa

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Flower Spiritgarden (Rit boss) in Eternal Grove is easy with a touch ranger, just pull him off a bit so his popup mobs dont spawn.
Jayne Forestlight (monk boss,also Eternal Grove) is harder due to the mobs, if you can get her alone you will kill her without any problem.

Hanego Ategeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Will try to go after Delic, Quansong, Flower, and others when I can.

Until then I'm gonna add them to a new section at the top of the page.

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

Milodestus the Wrangler : very easy
build used : touch/touch/oob/dirt/reflex/whirling/dodge/dodge2
description : leave from zos shivros, like you are going after sskai, but go to the right, to the NE of zos shivros

run past the two naga patrols, and as milodestus' group runs to the left of the circular area, run to the right. there is a building edge you can aggro them on, which is the key to killing him: take out the assassin, warrior, and his dire crab pet while he shoots into the wall, then go and kill him

use dodge and zojun's while fighting him because they will stop his arrows and the ritualist's projectiles.

oh, and his troll unguent does a whole lot of nothing, really. doesn't make the kill any harder than if he didn't even have it.. also, be careful of his pet, try to take the pet out first, or the assassin.. disrupting lunge is owwy.

happy hunting =D

Brother Redmund

Brother Redmund

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Australia

guildless

Quansong's run is quite easy in terms of the difficulty to kill him but by your parameters I'd say you would rate it medium on the basis of time taken.

This is because you can only take 1 or 2 of the temple guardians on at any single time, and there is a few to clear out before you can have a crack at the boss itself.

Therefore easy/medium = actual difficulty/time taken imo.

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

only killed him once I wouldn't know, but the other beast master boss in factions doesn't drop a green so, I wouldn't think so.

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

hmm, maybe we should be more persistent with salke and milodestus..

Hanego Ategeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

I'd like to ask for a little help with this thread actually. I have not had a lot of time to put the bad touch on all the new targets to confirm they are solid targets, and I don't wanna spend all my time confirming them if I can avoid it. I still do plan to run some bosses but I don't want to feel like I have to do them all.

Juicey, lennymon, and RebelHero (hope I'm not missing anyone) seem to have gotten this even more down than I did, as evidenced by the fact that they've been killing new stuff or stuff I tried but didn't get.

Accordingly, if you guys want to rate targets, and confirm each others targets, I will take confirmation of difficulty from any of you.

We'll see how this works. Thanks for your contributions, everyone.

sky the unstopable

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

radicals agianst tyrants

R/Mo

wow my story has been long. after trying to do this build with out a sup expertise (and crshing and burning miserably) from not haveing enough gold to afford an offhand with +12 energy. now i have actualy killed Xeukeo (not sure on spelling. in fact ive done so 6 tims and not a single green drop. that s kinda depressing. but i will keep going. i found that a easy way (if not longer)was to hide behind the pillars so the marksmen cant hit you and use life syphon on them. at 12 blood it is 3 pips of degen and you can cast it on all 4 of them. pretty funny. also i have noticed on him that if you kill everything there, besides the one group in the little crevice and the 2 groups that are like guarding the entrance to this place. then if you go to the right of whereyou killed the archers the group you didnt kill will run away triggering X where you can kill him w/o worrying about his posse. pretty wisked sweet.

well ima go try another boss. gl everyone.

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanego Ategeh
Juicey, lennymon, and RebelHero (hope I'm not missing anyone) seem to have gotten this even more down than I did, as evidenced by the fact that they've been killing new stuff or stuff I tried but didn't get. Sure! I'll continue trying to find bosses and would be glad to help rate any other bosses found.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Absolutely count me in to help out. I really enjoy pushing the boundaries that is ranger hunting. heh, I actually even killed Amadis once... and just once, cant replicate yet. Activated his patrol and wated till there was only one guy left from fighting carps/leviathons, took that one out (quickly) and ran to regen but kept him on my leash (in and out of his notice, but not aggro technique) then back in. I can't repeat though and sadly no drop for me. I did discover that its good to poke into aggro and out untill he throws the maelstrom. He's painful.

Delic: hard to very hard, but not that difficult just time consuming clearing his groups (would anyone care to replicate this? I still haven't gotten his dang wand either). Not really a farmable I'd say but certainly doable if you want his gear.
Aurius: I usually group with delic and clear the patrols before delic first, but if you dont take delic you can run all the way through them to the top of the hill where lorelle ends patrol, you have to take 2 patrols there (seperately) and can then pull Aurius up near oni bridge or go down after him. Usually he ends up with only one guy left after killing the carps too (bonus) - medium for time.

RebelHero

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

I'm in too. Even though the next few days I'll have to be studying like hell, so feel free to flame me if I post too much :P. I have been trying to kill Razorjaw Longspine, no luck yet though. The patrols are a mess out there, and pulling him in time is tricky. Well, back to studying...

Loshi

Loshi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

W/

That Frothspit fellow... Razorfin? Super easy. You simply pull yourself within range of the Luxon Priest. Kill off his posse while he's stuck in the wall, then move to him and the priest will follow. Super cake. Nice Vamp Bow, too.

Brother Redmund

Brother Redmund

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Australia

guildless

The Skill Eater and The Pain Eater Rit Bosses can be killed also, but you must take care to lure them separately. They aren't linked to the undergrowths and kirins around them so a longbow lure generally does the trick.

I havent gotten any green drops from them but according to the wiki they are there for the taking. Not too hard to kill, add them to the list!

RebelHero

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

Not Frothspit... he is easy.. I mean the other one... In Silent Surf...

RebelHero

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

Not entirely true... he does get ganked often, thats the hard part imo... It is possible to lure him in time, but it must be done after he killes the first outcast group but before the next group attacks him. I have done that a few times. Once I got killed by a turtle patrol, and a few times due to balthazars aura or 2 scuttle fishes that didnt want to die by outcast hands and found it their life's work to annoy me...

Hanego Ategeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

lennymon, your guide on Delic is good stuff, so I'm gonna add him although he's not independently confirmed yet. I'm gonna dd that in to the top if you don't mind. (Just tell me if you need it taken down). Delic confirmed hard.

Quansong confirmed medium.

Still needing confirmation:

Flower
Jayne
Skill Eater
Pain Eater

On another note, is the Easy / Medium / Hard rating system making sense to everyone? I wanted to give readers the best possible bang for their buck in terms of time spent versus greens dropped, which is why I did it that way.

Brother Redmund

Brother Redmund

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Australia

guildless

Untouched Ancient Ky: Now his name is just plain wrong, cause I just touched him good . Enter Raisu Pavilion from Imperial Sanctum and (use map for guide) run to where some docks appear on the map, he is there.

Like the 2 Rit Bosses, its unlinked to the surrounding group, so some creative luring can pull him away. No green drop yet, but according to wiki he drops Ky's Chalice (divine icon) worth approx 10-15k in guru price list. Overall its pretty easy takes about 10 mins or so. Now for some of these other Raisu Bosses......

EDIT: I should say that Ky is unlinked to the enemies already there. If you go too close to that spirit portal thingy and more enemies pop from there, they are linked and you can't really lure him by himself in that case.

pappman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Fortitudine Vicimus

Me/Mo

there are only some bosses like reffclaw, Lou, of the Knives and Craw Stonereap, i have killed easily, and can kill every time, i have killed all of them maby 5 times now and only got 1 green (the stonereaper).
can you guys explain more or maby post some videos of farming some of the bosses? that would be nice

Loki Seiguro

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

IGN: Scarlet Test Ace

We play Isketch in [HoH]

E/

about the weapon i think you should use the new blood staff or any staff that gives you +10 and +5 energy

RebelHero

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

I am planning to make a few videos about farming with diffirent professions. Among which the Touch Ranger will be the first. As I said, I am very busy studying right now. But I will start with this at the end of this week. Hope you can wait that long

Quote:
about the weapon i think you should use the new blood staff or any staff that gives you +10 and +5 energy We already had this discussion a few pages back. The best option is the blood set (I think Gordacs?), the cheapest and easiest option is Milthurans staff or the blood knife + a +5 energy weapon.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Personally I like the 2 collector items:
Blood knife from Jefri Whylir in Aurios Mines 5 bone charms
and
Pronged rod from Kiishen in Shenzen tunnels just at Nahpui Quarter (explorable) gate - 5 plague idos

Advantages: 2 x 20% recharge for Oob is really really good sometimes. You *can* still damage things with a wand if you are waiting for a recharge or something. FREE with easily obtainable collectables.
Specs for Oob are the same for blood @ 12 or 13 so +1 to blood only effect is 3 more health on touch (insignificant) an armor wrapping on collector blood staff would be better in my opinion that milthurans - which *would* be great for a blood necro primary, or as a switch from the +5 energy & 20/20 offhand.

YAY!!! I finally got the stupid wand from Delic

Edit: I'm happy to help a brother ranger out with getting these also as long as its understood that I already have a full time job ;P

Fossa

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

I'm using the Pronged Rod from the weaponsmaker at Vasburg and the collectors icon from the desert (+15 energy -1 energy regen). That gives me a nice 59 energy to play with and every 5th OOB is faster.

Started with corpse denial for the death necro bosses using Necrotic Traversal (also usefull when facing Kirin). Ghial goes a bit faster that way.

Edit: when facing Ghial there are no-one who puts conditions on you, so I switched in Troll's unguent and placed the remaining 6 points in Wilderness, giving you a health regen of 5. Makes getting energy back between fights using OOB easier.

Hanego Ategeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lennymon
Personally I like the 2 collector items:
Blood knife from Jefri Whylir in Aurios Mines 5 bone charms
and
Pronged rod from Kiishen in Shenzen tunnels just at Nahpui Quarter (explorable) gate - 5 plague idos I'll check these out, since I already have enough to make a few of them. =-)

Thx for gear recommendation.