[MERGED] New Storage Options for Guild Wars

Parson Brown

Parson Brown

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

In ur base...

The one true [Hope]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Naomi Heartily
I don't need space to hold materials..i need space to hold all my armor/weapons/countless holiday items... :-/

Having a 34-slot storage space for some things I will rarely use (honestly, Kappa shells?????) over a 20-slot storage space that I can hold anything in...that should be the one that gets expanded.
Not picking on you personally, but why are you hoarding Kappa shells (or any other useless collectable)?

If there's something you want from a collector, get your 5 shells and be done with them.

Now I started hoarding all my drops when they announced the Dragon fest, since you never know what the special collectors may ask for, but as soon as I know for certain what I need, all the extras get sold.

On the other hand, I always keep a couple stacks of materials around for armor and weapon crafting.

EDIT: To avoid confusion: here are the 36 crafting materials mercilessly cut and pasted from guildwiki:

Rare:
A
Amber Chunk
B
Bolt of Damask
Bolt of Linen
Bolt of Silk
C
Clay Brick
D
Deldrimor Steel Ingot
E
Elonian Leather Square
F
Fur Square
G
Glob of Ectoplasm
J
Jadeite Shard
L
Leather Square
Lump of Charcoal
M
Monstrous Claw
Monstrous Eye
Monstrous Fang
O
Obsidian Shard
R
Roll of Parchment
R cont.
Roll of Vellum
Ruby
S
Sapphire
Spiritwood Plank
Steel Ingot
T
Tempered Glass Vial
V
Vial of Ink

Common:
B
Bolt of Cloth
Bone
Brick of Mud
C
Chitin Fragment
F
Feather
G
Granite Slab
I
Iron Ingot
P
Pile of Glittering Dust
Plant Fiber
S
Scale
T
Tanned Hide Square
W
Wood Plank

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

I'm slightly confused. It says it's for Common/Rare crafting materials, but there's a slot for kappa shells out of the 34? o.O It doesn't really help me though because I already have 1 character devoted to craft mat holding. >.>

Fate

Fate

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

New England, USA

Shadow Knights [SK]

Mo/Me

Anet has a singular ability to deny the requests of their customers and rub it in their faces.

What if I want more then one stack of a particular type of crafting material? What if I'd rather put armor in storage and carry my crafting materials?

Some poor programmer probably invested a lot of time and effort to code those new inventory slots so that they would only allow certain objects in them. Players and devs lives could have been made a heck of a lot easier if they were just general purpose extra slots.

And Kappa shells? If there really is a slot for that I wonder if there will be a slot for naga pelts and naga fangs and... the list goes on and on. Sounds like someone failed to put on their thinking cap when making that list. Ah well, no press release is ever perfect.

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackest Rose
Anet... please please please include dyes in this.......

It's a complete pain swapping toons just to stack dye.....
/SIGNED!

frickett

frickett

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Shinigami Keys [SHIN]

R/Mo

This is a great start, that is what I mostly have in my storage is materials and stuff.

Sagaris

Sagaris

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands.

Cool that they upgraded storage. Too bad that I don't collect materials too put in the storage. -__- Ah well. It's a good start.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Remember people -.-

Its a start

This update is a "Yes, we have been listening to you, but this is all we can offer right now. Give us some feedback so we can improve it better."

or for you cynics: "Heres something we made in 10 minutes so you think we are paying attention to you, now stfu."

Parson Brown

Parson Brown

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

In ur base...

The one true [Hope]

E/

I'm at work and can't check: If there's a slot for Kappa shells, what's missing from the above list of materials?

Sakashi

Sakashi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

United Kingdom

[VII] The Midgar Zolem

E/Mo

Yessssss! I was only complaining about storage the other day and Anet give us the new news LOL. GG.
And i love the fact it'll store materials. This is what i've always used storage for, and now i'll have room for ALL my materials AND some rare items ^_^

/Advanced thanks to Anet when the storage update is released.

Unlucky Slayer

Unlucky Slayer

RAGE INCARNATE

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sitting at The Guild Hall 2, being happy.

Nerd Clan [NK]

R/

Kappa shells are not materials... They are collectors items...

Lasher Dragon

Lasher Dragon

Draconic Rage Incarnate

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Alphahive

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unlucky Slayer
Kappa shells are not materials... They are collectors items...
I'm wondering if that's a typo or something...

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Parson Brown
EDIT: To avoid confusion: here are the 36 crafting materials mercilessly cut and pasted from guildwiki:

Amber Chunk
Bolt of Damask
Bolt of Linen
Bolt of Silk
Clay Brick
Deldrimor Steel Ingot
Elonian Leather Square
Fur Square
Glob of Ectoplasm
Jadeite Shard
Leather Square
Lump of Charcoal
Monstrous Claw
Monstrous Eye
Monstrous Fang
Obsidian Shard
Roll of Parchment
Roll of Vellum
Ruby
Sapphire
Spiritwood Plank
Steel Ingot
Tempered Glass Vial
Vial of Ink
Bolt of Cloth
Bone
Brick of Mud
Chitin Fragment
Feather
Granite Slab
Iron Ingot
Pile of Glittering Dust
Plant Fiber
Scale
Tanned Hide Square
Wood Plank
Since there are only 34 slots, I would guess that Brick of Mud and Clay Brick might be the odd materials out of that list (that is, assuming that by Kappa Shells they meant Chitin Fragments). I sure hope it's not Rubies and Sapphires, since there is no use for them currently.

Unlucky Slayer

Unlucky Slayer

RAGE INCARNATE

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sitting at The Guild Hall 2, being happy.

Nerd Clan [NK]

R/

May be a typo, but people keep bringing it up...

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Kappa_Shell

They are collectable drops.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

hot dang! love you guys at anet!

keep up the good work :-)

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

I think its most definitely a TYPO.

Thats why they renamed shells to chitin....>.> to avoid confusion~~

Naomi Heartily

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Benecia Renovation [RenO]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Parson Brown
Not picking on you personally, but why are you hoarding Kappa shells (or any other useless collectable)?
I'm not. Taken from the PR:

Quote:
What is offered with the Xunlai Agent enhancements?

The Materials Vault is accessed via a new tab your personal Xunlai Agent [Storage] Vault. The first tab is the standard 20-slot Items Vault. The second (new) tab opens the Materials Vault, which holds both common and rare materials and crafting supplies. The Materials Vault has a defined slot for every form of supply or material in the game. So when you open it, you see a space for bones, another for wooden planks, a third for kappa shells, etc.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

I would have been happier with a free 34 slots of craft mat storage, not linked to any specific item. :X That'd clear my one entire character and hold every other craft mat I have spread about. o.O

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
Thank you ANET!

I'm not complaining, but I would like to second Lyra's comment. Armor tab FTW.
Agree, would like to see the next round take account of Dyes, Keys, collector items, Armor and multiple stacks to be able to put in some of those slots where you don't collect some items.

I can see armor being the most troublesome but if I had a dedicated space for the rest I wouldn't mind just keeping my armor and weapons on my character.

It would be nice to have a large guild repository box that is larger than normal that anyone in the guild can gain access to and remove or add. Our guild has at least three mules to carry all the crafting materials and collector items that we share. It can be a big pain when trying to switch characters so that they can get stuff from the community pot.

Parson Brown

Parson Brown

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

In ur base...

The one true [Hope]

E/

^^ Sorry about that

Has anyone actually seen this yet? First the release says "supply or material," then it says "rare or common material."

So, what's actually in there?

Konrow

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

great news for me sinc ei have so much amterials i'm overflowing with materials and items but now maybe i can finally play my sin and end his mule life

J snukka

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New York

too lazy to read the posts, but I know for a fact their are rich players that are still going to complain because they have nothing else to do. This is to you rich annoying players. Not everyone in game is like you. They wont have a million dyes and million material like you. Either sell your stuff to the merchant or shut up. I am sick and tired of players complaining there isnt enough space for stuff. Anet did a great job to offer this to us and it is more than enough for the average player in-game. It took a long time, but I don't mind. I think everyone should be thankful to the developing team and stop complaining.

Great Job Anet- You making me love you guys again. Especially since you guys are keeping in touch with us on the sites more often.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

What's all this whining about? This is GOOD news. You just got more storage without having to deal with the ultrarich hoarding more stuff. As for people saying that they don't keep materials anyway, maybe that's because it's such a pain to do so with the current system? Can't you guys just be happy with getting something for nothing?

Anet, thank you, my guild chat just collectively made "o" faces. This is awesome, one more reason to love this game.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

this is a nice improvment that will save some storage slots but i have multiple stacks of materials of the same kind so it wont totally help to much

None the less thank you for answering the call of the people A-Net!

Lelani

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Yay, I can free up a total of 2 spaces in my regualar storage, the only materials I keep are Ecto's and Shards. 34 added storage slots for everything would have been better, failing that I'd definitely have prefered an armour tab to a material vault.

Chadatog

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

I look at this as Anet's trial storage. If we put crafting materials into it and there is a problem, we only loose 250 of crafting materials (although Ecto and shard collectors would be pretty pissed). I think this is just to iron out any kinks in the system before they add more specific types of storage (holliday items and such) cause if your priceless holliday items/armor/rare weapons get lost then you will hear a lot more angry people than just some crafting materials.

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Parson Brown
Glad they did SOMETHING.
This certainly will help. Even if you keep multiple stacks of materials, this is still 34 more slots.
Nothing to sneeze at.
Yeah but what a choice eh?

This is << simply another 20 slot storage tab for probably most people.
So one stack where you likely have multiples and empty space for the rest.
And this is <<<< superior rune for a bag (every character 20 more slots).

So no holiday storage, a simple keyring on players, dye juggling, bigger bags, belts, putting bags in storage with stuff in them, or a general tab storage.

It's an odd move just factions as well, and is 34 really the #?
Certainly can't cover crafting materials and collector materials at that #.
I have a page of chp2 collector materials (20) which I'll probably just merch.

Hey I'll take ANY storage bone, I've been dying for it [though before yet another holiday event with items would have been nice.]
Scroll stacking meant I stopped immediately using or merch'ing all scrolls.
But I'm also not sure if this gets me over the hump to consider chp3.

When nothing happened with it after buying chp2, chp3 wasn't in my future (and yeah, after eating only 2 slots). I'll give it a go but I just don't see it cutting it, especially when one character might take 400 materials. Just a wierd move. Maybe that means every chapter will throw another odd 'storage' bone at us, next one collectibles? Holiday? Buy chp3? Shrug.

Some call it whining, blah blah. I dunno I just hate the inventory mini-game-that-isn't, and if you havent hit the wall, well good for you, you don't play like I do. 5 pve chars and I like to have options on all of them, 6th slot had to go back to a mule even tho I deleted a char to get my pvp slot back, and I still have some overflow on my wife's account. I'm not a pack rat, I don't have the patience to hoard and sell (another hellaciously ignored item in GW) but yeah I like toying with different builds, configurations, which means a fair bit of supporting items and target new armors and equipment so crafting and collector items... I dunno. I kinda hoped some storage bone was coming. I'm just not sure how to react to it. Thanks for [finally] thinking of us, but umm why such the narrow focus and restriction? /shrug

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

I'm going to constructively provide feedback to anet..

I'm very happy the implemented this and it was in a way I was actually thinking about how they were going to do it.. that being said

In more then one interview about how "system" enchantments apply to all chapters where content is limited to new campaigns (quest, missions).

This screams “system” enhancement like possible future trade / auction house there debating and mention would be available to all campaigns…

I can see why they made this decision or if it's strongly business related but after all the talk they have said about stuff like this applying to all chapters... and turn around and make this factions only,.. is a bit of a let down.

Again I am happy that were getting more storage, it in a way that makes sense to me.. but I was under the impression based on interveiws and such that stuff like this was campaign wise.. not factions. Again I do know anet has to make money and this may of been a hard decision but I still feel it's a bit of let down. It won't discouagre me to buy future chapters, Im hooked on this game.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

i sold my crafting materials months ago because there was no room for them...

this update seems like a big deal but honestly all it is is a marketing ploy...seriously, factions only? and right after a big factions event?

My Sweet Revenga

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

It's not bad. I suppose this was the best ANET felt they could do in order to compromise having to spend more money transfering more bandwidth, yet giving us a large enough option for freeing up storage space. This won't help me a huge amount, but it will definitely help since my assassin is currently holding a bunch of rare crafting materials so at least those slots will be freed. But I'd say at least be thankful they did something considering we're about to lose most slots to dragon masks and hoards of jade orbs and spiked rice wine and rice cakes and exploding beach balls and other summer stuffs...

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Absolutely beautiful. It caters to the "regular" player while providing limited benefits for the uber-farming plague that has decended upon the lands of Cantha. This will help me immensely. I am pleased.

Nothing else matters.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Hmm my storage has few/no materials, but quite a few holiday/event/gift items, different weapons/armours and some spare upgrades or some such.

Surely Anet realises people like to collect the event items, not to mention things like minipet(s) etc. so why not a simple event box for items obtained from events, at least?

Soccer55

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Otto's Army [OA]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Since there are only 34 slots, I would guess that Brick of Mud and Clay Brick might be the odd materials out of that list (that is, assuming that by Kappa Shells they meant Chitin Fragments). I sure hope it's not Rubies and Sapphires, since there is no use for them currently.
AFAIK, Bricks of Mud are unobtainable and Clay Bricks are uncraftable since they require Bricks of Mud to craft. So I would guess that the clay and mud bricks are the 2 materials that are left out.

-Tom

just one more

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

If ArenaNet had been promising us for 3 weeks to a month for improved storage, and this is what they came up with, it'd be ok.

However, we've been promised for much better storage for a lot longer, and THAT makes this attempt look weak. Even with this update I still need a mule character to hold the surplus materials so this doesn't even serve my a purpose. Not to mention the multiple armor sets and such my characters have.

ArenaNet could have done a lot better. In my opinion, this "improvement" will be the equivalent of making "WTS" messages automatically transfer to Trade Chat. We all saw how wonderful that worked out.

I'd also like to echo Eternal Tempest for a minute. For months now Gaile Gray has promised us that improvements to trade/storage would be system improvements which are game-wide and would not be restricted to the purchase of a specific chapter. Yet here we are with this improvement and people need to purchase or have purchased Factions in order to get it. This shows a deeper level of trouble, I believe. Either ArenaNet intentionally misinforms us (I'm starting to believe it), or Gaile has worse communication with the developers than we do. At this point, that's assuming she even has any. How do we get consistently told one thing for so long only to have it come out not what was told?

All that aside, I'm glad they decided to make an effort, but it's too little WAY too late, in my book. This improvement would have helped us about 8 months ago perhaps, but now they're just trying to clog the dam with a paper towel.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chadatog
I look at this as Anet's trial storage. If we put crafting materials into it and there is a problem, we only loose 250 of crafting materials (although Ecto and shard collectors would be pretty pissed). I think this is just to iron out any kinks in the system before they add more specific types of storage (holliday items and such) cause if your priceless holliday items/armor/rare weapons get lost then you will hear a lot more angry people than just some crafting materials.
That's an interesting perspective and not one I (or many, I'd gather) really looked at. I'm not saying I agree or that you're right (because you're just guessing as well ) but it does help see this in a better light. Not that I have any hope of what you said actually happening, because I'm comfortable with ANet disappointing me.

Dracus Steelbow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

in my basement for the last 20 years

Radicals Against Tyrants

R/

Man, this just made me a very happy man. My whole storage is materials, except for 2 spots i use to transfer item THANK YOU ANET

Clinically Proven

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

[MMAD]

Yippee Ya Ya YAY

Any extra storage is better than no extra storage.

Can we have an armour and weapons tab next please Anet?

Parson Brown

Parson Brown

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

In ur base...

The one true [Hope]

E/

This has me thinking about how I do things.

I'm a certified packrat. I admit it.
I have 3 stacks of most common materials and 1 of each rare.
Why?

I only have plans on buying one more set of armor, and that's up in the air. So what am I holding these things for? Mostly for investment purposes. Whenever the mood strikes, I head to Drok's and sell crafting materials. It's usually an easy way to make a few plat.

But other than that, I'll never use the stuff. Maybe it's time to simplify my life and just keep one stack of everything for future potential armors.
Just think of all the weapons I could hold!

Ka El Windstorm

Ka El Windstorm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

As soon as i saw that you had to own Factions to get the "expanded" storage I thought Gaile or someone official said these types of updates are System wide not chapter wide. I'm dissappointed in that. On the material side of things..i really only keep crafting materials in my storage if I'm going to be buying armor, so this doesn't really have much use, to me. I sold all my christmas items because i had no room. I'd like a event storage like others have mentioned.

lord_shar

lord_shar

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

This update will easily create another 20+ slots for my toons. Thank you ANET.

PS: Now please fix assassin skills, especially temple strike (25 sec recharge is way too long - just make it crit-strike instead of dagger attribute based) *hint*hint*

Kali Magdalene

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Washington

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by audra
People are so used to GWs absolutely crappy storage options, even useless updates like this one will make them happy.
Freeing up 15 slots in my storage doesn't strike me as useless...

skammich

skammich

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

north carolina

FunK

Mo/

this is their excuse for a storage update? i mean yeah its useful, would be more useful if it could hold multiple stacks of materials or something along those lines. as for hoarding weapons and such its useless.

i imagine this is the storage improvement gaile has been talking about for so long. i'm not gonna hold my breath for an auction house.