[MERGED] New Storage Options for Guild Wars

salaboB

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ka El Windstorm
As soon as i saw that you had to own Factions to get the "expanded" storage I thought Gaile or someone official said these types of updates are System wide not chapter wide. I'm dissappointed in that.
Indeed, and someone at GWO compiled a good set of quotes detailing this -- http://forums.gwonline.net/showpost....&postcount=114

This certainly seems like a technology update, as Prophecies characters on accounts that own Factions can take advantage of it without ever getting to Factions content.

Edit: Note that the argument "It's because you need more space with two chapters" doesn't apply, because you can own only Factions and still have the enhanced storage.

Konrow

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

yea even tho i have Factions I find it completely unfair to leave Tyria out of this. thats just completely evil and it shows how much they want people to buy Factions. Tyrians are probably gonna revolt just like the monks at THK.

Ghull Ka

Ghull Ka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle, WA

Grenths Helpdesk

N/

Yeah, that was me. :-)

Per James Phinney, Guildwars.com Fansite Friday #54
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guildwars.com
Another major question was about improvements to the functionality of the interface. We asked James what was coming up in the form of improvements or changes that would address concerns from players.

James: We think of interface and the basic features in GW as something we are going to improve and update, for free, for anyone who has ever bought any chapter of GW. We won't make buying a new chapter a requirement to get such upgrades. (New chapters are for getting new content.) Things like saving character builds, a mail system to get in touch with people who are off-line, more player statistics and much, much, much better ways to trade goods are all planned for the future. Other popular requests are having a way to communicate that you are ready to go, to show that you are AFK, or to give some sort of sign that you are looking for a party. All three of these things are also going to be addressed and will be included at some point in the future.
I own Factions. I'm going to get it. I'm not all super-pissed on my own behalf. But yeah, they promised that you wouldn't have to buy new chapters to get this kind of stuff, and yet here we are.

Slippery slope time?

Fender

Fender

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ohio

XoO

Will open up a grand total of 2 slots for me. More or less useless. :| Please let this not be the end of improved storage. Or at least make them general slots, not slots that can only be used for 1 type of item.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Embarrassing quote there Mind you, does seem to be a bit of a pattern there. Merge keys/accounts and have complete access to both Tyrian and Canthan content? Didn't quite happen until complaints were raised about that issue (and still isn't quite 100% as a lot of the quests aren't all open to cross campaign characters..)

It is a bit of a slippery slope when company representatives/developers promise one thing and then seem to partially deliver, or deliver with conditions attached. Conditions which the customers didn't ask for. Ah well, nothing new there really that's most games companies anyway hehe

Ka El Windstorm

Ka El Windstorm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

Since it seems this materials storage is comming couldn't they atleast let it hold multiple stacks of the same material and rare material. What I mean is instead of only having 1 spot for 250 wood, let the whole 34 slots be open to materials and rare. So say I could have 34 stacks of wood if I wish to do so. I would be fine with it, if it was like this. Still have it only hold materials and rare is fine. but their current way is so restricting. How many people are hording vials of ink? or some other material rarely used.

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

I had the same idea by adding tabs to it, but I suggested to add them to the inventory[I] too.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...3011937&page=2

And I agree that they should expand storage for people who doesn't own Factions.

Blackest Rose

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

For those of you wondering about why Kappa shells were referenced these are collectors items and not eligible.

I just checked the storage page and all references to Kappa shells have been removed.... so no collectors storage

My Sweet Revenga

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by skammich
this is their excuse for a storage update? i mean yeah its useful, would be more useful if it could hold multiple stacks of materials or something along those lines. as for hoarding weapons and such its useless.

i imagine this is the storage improvement gaile has been talking about for so long. i'm not gonna hold my breath for an auction house.
Well it's not really gonna be an auction house.... more like a log house in the middle of the woods where you can trade stacks of cloth and hides for food and medicines. You see, what people don't realize is that Guild Wars Chapter 3 is actually gonna be set in the age of pioneers. Special event will be Log Day where you get a special beaver tail hat at the end. Special games include marksmanship, victo's axe toss, and the speed tree falling where you gotta use your skills to see who can bring a tree down the quickest. And note the tree needs to be INTACT so please no Enraged Smash.... um.... what was I talking about again?

Oh right. Well considering how conservative ANET is trying to be with bandwidth with this method of extra storage, I'll agree an auction house has a much smaller chance of seeing the light of day now since transferring that much data to trade completely dwarfs the amount of data required to tell the storage how much of a set material you have.

Caleb

Caleb

Nil nisi malis terrori.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

I really could have used this while buying multiple sets of armor for all my Canthan characters.

Awesome start to the storage solution Anet, thank you!

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

well at least they're doing soimething but i already have 2 extra accounts that i put multiple stacks of materials so this is pointless for me... i just want more storagre space! gimme 34 slotas where i can put whatever i want..

Mtank325

Mtank325

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Crimson Blood Dragons [CBD]

Works for me as most of my storage is filled with materials.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

yipee 16 stacks of wood and iron on a char .. 15 to go

(at last, i can finally delete my monk if i can put these in storage )

cup-o-noodles

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/R

Yeah, Anets gonna start seeing less and less customers with future chapters if this is how they go about stuff. They can't just ignore the old chapters and keep updating the latest one. People will get tired of paying 50 bucks for a game that will last, what did they say, a quarter of a year. Are they releasing new chapters every quarter or every half? Either way it still won't be worth buying the games.

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

Well this works extremely well with the 2nd shipment of the Factions CE...

Cash

Cash

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Bound By Wild Desire [Wild]

wow, read the first 3 pages of this and just got waaay to pissed to read the rest - everyone is COMPLAINING!!

wtf? i mean cmon, this is a START- its a good start for me. yes, like many of you i have more than 250 of most common materials and some rare ones (steel and parch) but this will at least free up some space on my material mule.

yes, im sure ANET knows we want more space for dyes, weaps, armor, holiday items, etc, etc, but at least now they are making some PROGRESS. whos to say an armor tab, weapon tab, dye tab, etc isnt in the works and theyll introduce those if there no big issues with this one? im betting thats what happens.

im disappointed its a factions only thing too, but honestly guys, im consolodating to 1 acct when i can buy 2 slots for the one i do have factions for. to those who dont have factions, my condolences but its really just simple marketing.

so please, stop the moaning and be HAPPY we're getting SOMETHING

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

YES finally maybe some of the whiners will STFU! Oh... wait... ZOMGZ its only for factions, buy F****** factions, second, ZOMG ITS ONLY MATERIALS , so F****** what, its STORAGE 34 SLOTS TO BE EXACT, ZOMG good start but I want MORE, SHUUUUT UUUUP! Atleast you got it!

Anyway this will be great for me, now I can save up for my armors and ghave slots for other stuff, funsies.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cash
wow, read the first 3 pages of this and just got waaay to pissed to read the rest - everyone is COMPLAINING!!

wtf? i mean cmon, this is a START- its a good start for me. yes, like many of you i have more than 250 of most common materials and some rare ones (steel and parch) but this will at least free up some space on my material mule.

yes, im sure ANET knows we want more space for dyes, weaps, armor, holiday items, etc, etc, but at least now they are making some PROGRESS. whos to say an armor tab, weapon tab, dye tab, etc isnt in the works and theyll introduce those if there no big issues with this one? im betting thats what happens.

im disappointed its a factions only thing too, but honestly guys, im consolodating to 1 acct when i can buy 2 slots for the one i do have factions for. to those who dont have factions, my condolences but its really just simple marketing.

so please, stop the moaning and be HAPPY we're getting SOMETHING

QFT *hands him the Anti-Whiners badge* GJ ty, glad someone else is joining the crusade

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cash
im disappointed its a factions only thing too, but honestly guys, im consolodating to 1 acct when i can buy 2 slots for the one i do have factions for. to those who dont have factions, my condolences but its really just simple marketing.
Promising game wide features for anyone regardless of how many chapters they own was marketting as well. And they just showed they are outright lieing about it. Next on the block - reconnects only if you buy chapter 3.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

lol whine whine whine, I am sure that they could fix it, or not, their choice they are letting you play this F'ing game for FREEEEEEEE get over yourself.

TalonTheCat

TalonTheCat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Black Cat Guild

Mo/

Love it - anything helps, wish dyes were there too.

just one more

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu
lol whine whine whine, I am sure that they could fix it, or not, their choice they are letting you play this F'ing game for FREEEEEEEE get over yourself.
Take your own advice. You clearly haven't been reading why we've been complaining. Perhaps you should read slower. Nobody said they didn't want this. But we need MORE than this. Sure, space for Materials. Wow. What about people who don't hoard materials and yet still have no room due to armor sets, and runes, and dyes? I guess tough shit for them huh?

Also, they've been promising us improvements for a while. Then we finally get something, and it's so small it almost doesn't even exist. If you think 34 slots for materials only will suddenly clear everyone's mules, you're very very naive. It's taken ArenaNet as long as it has to come up with this?

Third! They've promised continually that system improvements (Trade and Storage improvements specifically) would be free since they could just roll it out with streaming technology. That turned out to be a lie. Now you have to purchase Factions just for your Tyrian characters can get better storage.

Next we'll find out you have to buy Chapter 3 for improved henchmen. You have to buy Chapter 4 for the reconnecting improvements. Are you starting to get the point?

You claim we're playing for free, but those who won't buy chapter after chapter are having their enjoyment gimped. Perhaps you need to calm down and try to understand the deeper going-ons that are hidden within this whole situation. You obviously don't understand the problems, so you have absolutely no position to take an opposing stance.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

no they aren't many people are happy that they just play proph and have the joy of killing things, I can and would put money on that if it were IRL, and obviously YOU aren't very intelligent, wouldn't getting something then complaing "I waaaant moore" be considered whining? I sure as heck consider it whining, and you still are PLAYING for free, if you want improvements then pay for it. Oh and how do you know they could add stuff for tyria down the line but right now they are so cramped timewise with Chap 3 and the event that they could only pick one continent, logical idea for marketing FACTIONS. About the chapter 3 and 4 for improved stuff, its plausible but don't be such a presumptuous snob. Materials only hey its something be happy with it and hush. Take my own advice huh? I am not whining, I am being the one guy that stands up for anet when people continuously bash them for their efforts, I could just imagine how you all treat your mothers.


Edited: to clean up my language, got a little aggravated at first.

More on topic this space is gonna be especially good for saving up certain materials for when their price goes up or usefullness comes around, ruby and sapphires anyone?

just one more

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Kijik, again you clearly missed the point.

Quote:
Originally Posted by You
You still are PLAYING for free, if you want improvements then pay for it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Me
They've promised continually that system improvements (Trade and Storage improvements specifically) would be free since they could just roll it out with streaming technology. That turned out to be a lie.
Ok, do you understand that issue now?

Quote:
Originally Posted by You
Oh and how do you know they could add stuff for tyria down the line but right now they are so cramped timewise with Chap 3 and the event that they could only pick one continent
HAHA. This is how I know I'm intelligent. Cantha and Tyria have the same NPC script for Xunlai Agents. Don't believe me? Go to Tyria, and put an item in storage. Go to Cantha, and take it out. Yet I'm supposed to believe adding slots can only be done in Cantha? Good one, Kijik. You're smarter than I am.

Quote:
Originally Posted by You
About the chapter 3 and 4 for improved stuff, its plausible but don't be such a presumptuous snob.
Same could be said for you and presuming that the improved storage will come to Tyrian Xunlai Agents in the future.

Quote:
Originally Posted by You
I am not whining, I am being the one guy that stands up for anet when people continuously bash them for their efforts
We've all been in your position. I've played since betas and defended them for a year. Come see me a year after you started playing and tell me you aren't sick of "We're fixing it!" "Soon!" "We'll improve it soon" when day after day you see it simply isn't true.

Quote:
Originally Posted by You
I could just imagine how you all treat your mothers.
Probably the most ignorant statement I've ever seen you make, and that's saying a lot. My dissatisfaction with ArenaNet's handling of their product and lack of keeping their word to their consumers is a valid position to take when one is not satisfied because what is promised never comes true. How that relates to my mother I can't fathom, but considering I'm right and you aren't, it's predictable for you to resort to personal cheap shots.

Come see me when you grow up and can understand more than "you play for free." Some of us are bothered by things deeper than that.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

*chuckles* about the promises about the thing, for one evryone breaks promises, for two it still IS free, theydidn't charge anyone for it, you are looking too far into things, I take things at a more literaly level when it comes to other people's words, yes I noticed that now makes what I said earlier a moot point, I am tired and you ahven't yet angered me, which restores my strength(I am actually getting a good chuckle out of you). The scripting idea may be true but it likely takes more time to add it to both, also they are separated somewhat, they become conjoined when you join accounts. I am not trying to show my intelligence, I am just tired of being talking crap about a game then going back and playing it, if I don't like something, I leave. Also I wasn't presuming anything, if you payed attention I said they COULD when you said what you said you had a matter of fact tone. I started playing about 7 months ago, I'll see ya in november, keep an eye on me and don't come into other forums to troll me, I hate hearing waaarg as it is. The how you treat your mothers thing, is kind of what happens when you get aged by certain things in life, you say things that aren't necessarily the most "intelligent" but they still do have some relevance, listen to a senior citizen for half an hour, you'll know what I mean.

BTW I see that I have a rival now, things just became ten times more interesting.

jaibas17

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tampico, Mexico

Blood Eagle [BE]

W/Mo

6 shields, 4 swords, 4 axes, 2 hammers, 5 helmets, 4 armor slots (secondary armor) pumpkin head, christmas head, 1 bow,salvage kit, id kit

not many space left heh

and I use all differente things depending of the situation

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu
The scripting idea may be true but it likely takes more time to add it to both, also they are separated somewhat, they become conjoined when you join accounts.
Come back when you get a clue about that sort of thing. It would actually be easier to add it to everyone, not just Factions owners, as they then don't have to check to see if you have an expansion to get the extra storage.

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Armor vault plx.


kthx

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

*yawns* ok flame me, my defender of anet armor is flame proof and yer right i don't have the best idea of that sort of thing, all I am saying is that anet has their reasons for these things and it is none of our places to question it IMNSHO(In My Not So Humble Opinion) if we had to pay a monthly fee for this game then sure question away but until then...

If I were anet I would start charging a monthly fee to spite all of the whiners.

CorstedPirate

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Knights of the Void

Mo/

I am happy that my materials mule will now have a few extra slots to be an armor mule as well. I am very disapointed that they chose to make the new material storage so limited though. Only one stack of each type of material? Most of us may only end up using half of that if not less. An armor tab would really be a nice addition as well. If they must place such limits as they did with the materials, they could do one set per character including 1 head gear. Since most of us seem to have at least 2 sets of and 3-4 kinds of head gear per character it would help a little. Would free up 5 spaces per character, which would be nice but not so huge as to create some terrible issue of balance.

To Kijik: You may consider the people posting here to be whiners, however, companies make promises to keep their customers. Unhappy customers will not promote their product. Not only that, someone that is displeased with the service they have recieved is more likely to tell others than someone that is happy with the service they recieved. If someone tells you that they recieved poor service, you are also less likely to seek service from that company. Basic customer service 101. You are right that Anet can do whatever it pleases, but can it do so and stay in business?

*EDIT* I speak of customer service in the most general sense of course. We all know that Anet must maintain a balance with many things in this game.

Zakarr

Zakarr

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

Well, this kind of extended storage is quite useless for me. I keep only few rare material types and sell rest before they hit 250

34 extra general slots would had been a better option. Well, this is still better than nothing.

TheLordOfBlah

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Network
Yay! Another way for Anet to ditch Phophecies and make users buy Factions!
Yay!
They have to make money somehow right?

I'm glad theyre doing it at all! half my storage is crafting mats. Yay for this!

EDIT: I guess some people arent happy about the attempt to satisfy the players
Quote:
Originally Posted by just one more
Take your own advice. You clearly haven't been reading why we've been complaining. Perhaps you should read slower. Nobody said they didn't want this. But we need MORE than this. Sure, space for Materials. Wow. What about people who don't hoard materials and yet still have no room due to armor sets, and runes, and dyes? I guess tough shit for them huh?

Also, they've been promising us improvements for a while. Then we finally get something, and it's so small it almost doesn't even exist. If you think 34 slots for materials only will suddenly clear everyone's mules, you're very very naive. It's taken ArenaNet as long as it has to come up with this?

Third! They've promised continually that system improvements (Trade and Storage improvements specifically) would be free since they could just roll it out with streaming technology. That turned out to be a lie. Now you have to purchase Factions just for your Tyrian characters can get better storage.

Next we'll find out you have to buy Chapter 3 for improved henchmen. You have to buy Chapter 4 for the reconnecting improvements. Are you starting to get the point?

You claim we're playing for free, but those who won't buy chapter after chapter are having their enjoyment gimped. Perhaps you need to calm down and try to understand the deeper going-ons that are hidden within this whole situation. You obviously don't understand the problems, so you have absolutely no position to take an opposing stance.
Oh you REALLY NEED SOOPER BADLY extra room for ARMOR SETS? Armor is customized for individual characters, so keep them on the character its customized for... Thats what I do, problem solved? apparently not for you.

Oh yes trade improvements!!!!1 They just press the big "IMPROVE TRADE SYSTEM" button and it gives you a lil notification that you need to update and POOF! Its right F**king there. I guess theyre too lazy to press it eh? by the way, they never promised that those improvements were coming, and they never specified a date either, so they didnt promise you CRAP. So dont complain about it.

Oh you're having your enjoyment gimped? I dont recall them making the game WORSE for you people who dont want to continue buying chapters, last time I checked theyre still adding stuff to prophecies.

Dont play Guild Wars anymore if ANets laziness pisses you off so bad. They cant please everyone can they?

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

R/

Well Done.
Stop complaining at least something is being done.

Kityn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Michigan

Heroes of the Horn [HoH]

N/

What I would like to hear is that something is being done for those that have Prophecies only. I do not need to know what it is or when.

Kabale

Kabale

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

UK

Portrayors of Valour [pV]

I don't know about you guys, but my storage is 95% full of crafting material, this update is basically going to empty my current storage! I'm happy because that means I'll be able to use storage what it's for; transferring items from one character to the other without having to get guildies involved/selling stuff I don't want to to make space etc.

I think some of you just have too much junk ...

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by czymann
What I would like to hear is that something is being done for those that have Prophecies only. I do not need to know what it is or when.
A-Net have stated that Nothing will be added to Ch1, only bug fixes and such

TheLordOfBlah

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

I'm starting to question that considering that they just added new green items.

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

ok, so maybe having generic *crafting mats* slots would have been beter, but for heavens sake, people....

THIS WILL BE NUMBER ONE *TESTING* CAPABILITES

*ahem*
so, they are testing to see how this will or will not work. IF it works, works WELL and is used by more people than not used, they will pat themselves on the back and say, 'righty then, next page of storeage can be...'

so, theres maybe in the offing, a page for armours, one for festival and event items and one for wepons....

however, if you whine, beatch and basically calll them all the names you can think of, simply because *this* specific page of storeage is useless to YOU IN PARTICULAR.....they will probablt say, 'pff...stuff you then, cheaky littl SOB's....'

its like buying a collectors plate....just cause you want the #3 William T Riker plate, you still have to collect #1 Picatd and #2 Data TO GET to the thrid plate.....
'otherwise, tis off to ebuy fer you ^^

reason for it being Factions only?
Duh....for one, sell more copies of fations, and fer two...

storeage is a purchaced with game part, not a free update part....
the free update is for fixes now (in concern to vanilla GW, since, and i am sick of repeating myself here, poeple).....NO NEW UPDATES WILL BE RELEASED FOR GUILDWARS VANILLA ONCE FACTIONS GOES LIVE, OTHER THAT THE USUAL SKILL UPDATES AND BUG FIXES AND HOLIDAY EVENTS!!!

*pant*

now the next hting to hope is that they make the same sort of update with a Guild Stash, only moreso.....

J snukka

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New York

its funny how people forget that anet needs to still find ways to sell factions. stop complaining that prophecies isn't recieving attention. They will do something eventually. Omg you guys are so annoying. Let them enjoy their damn release of Factions and make more money.

Raxxman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

TEOC

W/N

Its a good start, but it would be great if they continued to expand.