Rujiyo! (Mini-Missions)

Cash

Cash

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Bound By Wild Desire [Wild]

im starting to believe that there HAS to be more to it than just what we're being shown now. coincidence that this quest was only just now given and not given the first day? perhaps tomorrow there will be a lvl 2 and so on until the last day of the festival?

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

YES GO SOCCER55 *hands him a mini defender o anet suit* Good job I am glad more people are seeing the light! *big thumbs up*

myword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Korea

i found a terror shield while doing the mission, too bad it was only purple

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soccer55
I think it's absolutely hilarious that so many players are complaining about this mission. I've even seen players that have said they're going to each district announcing in global chat about how this new mission is "worthless" because "it only gives you 50 orbs". Does everything that ANet introduces FOR FREE into this game need to have new greens or UBAR DROPZ associated with it? I mean, don't players still do quests and missions for fun anymore?

Not to mention, did just about everyone miss the part at the end that talks about transporting the party to the "next mission"? Could it be possible that there's a bug in the mission preventing us from playing the whole thing? Nah, never....ANet just tries to kill all of the fun of playing the game by introducing a new mission and giving us "lame" rewards. <insert rolling eyes smiley here>

I'm sure I'll be flamed by more than one user here due to my opinion, but that will just add to the hilarity. So flame away if you like!

-Tom
I don't think there's anything in particular wrong with anything you've said, and this very well could be just round one of something bigger. But, we really have no clue if it is or not, and therein lies the problem many people had with this. We don't what it is. It could be the beginning of something big. It could be just an incredibly hard quest with an incredibly crappy reward. Anet's left us pretty much completely in the dark here. That can be very frustrating, especially given the possibility that it all might be time sensitive. I don't want to come away from a game feeling completely bewildered about what just happened.

Cash

Cash

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Bound By Wild Desire [Wild]

Quote:
Originally Posted by myword
i found a terror shield while doing the mission, too bad it was only purple
a TERROR shield? wasnt that the big hoax of about 5 months ago (ie. are you just joking?)

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cash
a TERROR shield? wasnt that the big hoax of about 5 months ago (ie. are you just joking?)
yes, there was a big hoax.
I remember also a hoax around an IDS, that ANet later implemented in the game to make it real.
But I have doubts they would do this on an Event.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soccer55
I mean, don't players still do quests and missions for fun anymore?
No, no they don't. That's precisely why Tyria is mostly all deserted now. No worthwhile rewards left for players there = no fun left for players there.

Worthwhile rewards for doing stuff is what makes RPG games fun.

Them not being in place is what makes RPG games unfun.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soccer55
I think it's absolutely hilarious that so many players are complaining about this mission. I've even seen players that have said they're going to each district announcing in global chat about how this new mission is "worthless" because "it only gives you 50 orbs". Does everything that ANet introduces FOR FREE into this game need to have new greens or UBAR DROPZ associated with it? I mean, don't players still do quests and missions for fun anymore?

Not to mention, did just about everyone miss the part at the end that talks about transporting the party to the "next mission"? Could it be possible that there's a bug in the mission preventing us from playing the whole thing? Nah, never....ANet just tries to kill all of the fun of playing the game by introducing a new mission and giving us "lame" rewards. <insert rolling eyes smiley here>

I'm sure I'll be flamed by more than one user here due to my opinion, but that will just add to the hilarity. So flame away if you like!

-Tom
There are a lot of times where you can defend ANet's actions as "Oh well, you don't have to do it if you don't like it," but they simply dropped the ball with this quest (unless there is something hidden about it, but I'm not here to speculate).

It's crap, plain and simple. If you're looking for challenge...do ToPK with 4 people. It's the same thing, except you also get a reward. Note that a reward is not necessary all the time, but there has to be SOMETHING to justify doing this quest. It doesn't even advance a story, because it's endlessly repeatable. At this moment, 50 orbs are worthless, plain and simple. You only need 10 extra after doing the 4 quests, and it's really bloody easy to get those 10.

Furthermore, people who don't frequent forums are going to be even more ticked off at this, becuase it's so much harder than the other quests...yet gives a worse and arguably worthless reward. People will feel like they've in effect wasted an hour (or more, depending on how many times they failed) of game time.

This is an undefendable screw up. There is absolutely no redeeming quality to this "mission". I'm normally one to attack excess negativity, but in this case, y'all need to get your heads out of your (or ANet's) collective asses and see that this was a mistake, unless the entire community is missing something, OR ANet manages to correct it later on by adding something else that ties in with it.

Ineffiable

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

We have rifts uip there!

Whos willing to bet we get 50 orbs for that too?

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

Actually this is VERY defendable, there are ulterior motives I can just about guarantee it, and besides why complain? its not gonna get anything done, and it makes YOU look like a little baby, crying for your damn bottle. Live with it or pay for it.

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

we almost beat the quest!

we took a worroior/mes with mantra flame. echo nuker with mantra reslove, sprite spammer, 1 monk with reslove we had 3 more to go but lost because of too much arrgo!

but the build rocks

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

Well, there's a new quest in Jaya bluffs. :s

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

100 Orbs!

golem bigstick

golem bigstick

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Elite Rifle Squad Faction

W/

OMG! you beat me to it! man ur fast
all i did was take the screenies and then got over here. well yes the captian has just announced a new mission in the bluffs. looks like some predictions where right. might be greens at the end after all!

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasareth
Well, there's a new quest in Jaya bluffs. :s
What's strange is that it completely replaced the Hanju Lagoon quest.

So I guess there were no greens there.

PS: I have access to it, and I never completed Hanju Lagoon. So I wouldn't expect a completion bonus.

If there is, and ArenaNet seriously screwed up the presentation.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

Navaros I also disagree with you, what makes RPG's fun to me, is bashing things head in, that may just be becuase I am sadistic but that is beyond the point, also I like MMOs for being able to play a game with other people, being an only child and not being allowed ot have friends over. Of course this is all a matter of opinion. Also about the tyria thing I am planning on taking my sin through there, not for the rewards but for the fun of killing stuff, I also think that I might be able to just about rape glint with a skill bar with a 6-7 hit combo with my sin.

Xen Foranus

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Legion of Xen

Well if there are, too bad for me. I'm done with the night, not going to waste any more time killing my brain cells when I should be sleeping .

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

HAHA YES I WIN! I told you guys there was MORE! *does the ima winner dance*

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

OH GET OFF THE ORB ISSUE PEOPLE. 50 IS FINE! TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS...


This is a friendly preview for NIGHTFALL. I think Anet was great for doing this.. I enjoyed the mission 50 ORBS or not. Others have enjoyed it too. Be satisfied you beat it where others could not.

TO You who beat the mission... you are 1337 for it.

GOOD FOR YOU!...

/cheer

Dawnspire

Dawnspire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/N

Really crappy, Now I feel how people feel when they cant get to the Deep themselves or something.

Level 3 henchmen.
4 people max.
Reallllly limits your options for a group..After the first 10 minutes the only groups going are " LF TANK/MONK/NUKER/TRAPPER/COOKIECUT"

Its impossible for anyone to get into a group unless they are 1/5 things!
On top of this, the first mission only lasted like 2 hours!!

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

GREEN ITEMS, or wait a couple hours and you get the NEXT MISSION and after that another then at the end you get something extremely good! just be patient!

Song Rui

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

We are all pretty [ugly]

W/

ye. we'll get something worthwhile in the end.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

my god... WAAAAAA WWAAAAAAA you can't get in OMG find a group that will work with you. Gloryfox I think for once I may completely, unequivably agree with you, BTW I don't think this is just about nightfall, this is about the greater evil that will encompass all of the guildwars world, I knew anet had more of a storyline than some dude who betrayed the emperor and a lich.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Want to know my theory?

The creatures? They are from Lyssa's Realm. That's right. Chaos? Put 2 and 2 together.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

yep yep, and song I love the guild name DW is an awesome game. have they released DW6 yet? or are they planning to make DW6?

Ineffiable

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

And they can't hurt their own kind, the mesmers.

Kali Magdalene

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Washington

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Since the prize is orbs, it seems to indicate that this isn't permanent, and only for the Festival. Debateably a waste of time.

However, I question ArenaNet's judgment for putting the mission in Shing Jea Monastery...newbie central + difficult mission = death.
Yeah. I saw someone advertising "LF 1 more for mission", went to invite, and before I could even check the professions and levels, I was in the mission with a level 11 assassin, level 12 warrior, and a level 20 ranger.

The small party size plus being in an area that's typically full of lower level characters makes this a bit difficult to pull off with PUGs. Heck, with an alliance group, we had enough trouble (but that's because no one seemed to want to pull).

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

hmmmm maybe, I still think alternate dimension= greater evil, these guys will be popping up in every chapter trust me, and I do believe Nightfall will be a huge fight against them, then at the end we will think we defeated them and then Chap 4 will have a small taste of how these grasps and stuff were only the tip of the evil iceberg, then Chap 5 will reveal the controllers of the grasps, chap 6 we destroy em, 7...8....9... it goes on and on, the fight of Good vs Evil never ends.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

Well I did it with 2 characters already

TEAM 1
Warrior (*Ripsite / Glads def build) ME
Assassin (Palm Twisted Fangs)
Mesmer (Domination)
Monk (Protection)

TEAM 2
Ranger (Barrage / Pet)
Monk (Smite / Pet)
Ritualist (Restoration Communing ,Wonderlust Elite) ME
Necro (Blood/degen)

See it can be done with many different classes and builds... Just takes time... Just do what you do best...

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

oh and Zinger check yer PMs I sent you an "invite"

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

Hey glory if you are around on monday at about 12:30 or 1:00 PST USA I will be doing this with my Sin Kirin hanryuu if you are around send me a message and you can see me as I pick off these buggers 1 at a time, get 1 alone and I can obliterate it. So decent pulling= the end of these guys.

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

the npc use echo metershower and rain of fire they are tuff! the meners are insame. the build I give makes it easy

pctech65

pctech65

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Lords of Doom

W/Mo

Well there may be a nice reward at the end. BUT, where have these quests left the casual player? I play Guild Wars for FUN and to relieve the stress of the day, not to get stressed trying to do some quest that yeilds very little in the way of any reward so far. I guess it is yet again Anet's way of saying that they like to gear everything toward the PVP style of play. Now your going to say the quest is not pvp. Yes this I know, But it has the same intensity as pvp play is my point.
My point here is that I am not a number cruncher. I don't sit and pick apart each skill and stat in the game in order to play it. If that is everyones idea of fun gametime then you should get out more. The release of factions brought us the MOBs of foes. I was told when I started playing guild wars some 8 months ago that you can do pretty much everything in the game with henchmen, and in Prophecies this was true. BUT now all I see is that anet is very pushy and insistant that I absolutely MUST play with pug groups a majority of the time. I must say that I do not get anywhere near the fun from playing factions that i got from playing the Prophecies Campaign. Just my rant. I guess this new quest has me somewhat at a loss for understanding. I just don't know where they think this is really going.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

if it goes the way of people who dun like the game leave, IMO so be it, frees up server space and stress for me. I understand your viewpoint but what stresses me out is that people come on these boards and on guildwars to say, simply put, "Anet sucks and so does guildwars" and they are playing for free and that kind of trash pisses me off.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

It's still 50 Jade Orbs.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

it is leading up to something tho, you still have a good two to three areas of the island to clear, like panjiang peninsula, Zen daijun, and minister cho's estate(maybe?).

Dart

Dart

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cantha

Prior Planning Prevents P*ss Poor Performance

R/Me

He finally appeared and started yelling for help in the monastary....we all start running to him and he wants us to accept a quest with no reward comment etc. - everyone teams up blindly with a basic balenced team to see what the heck to expect ! This happened at around midnight CST....like 6:30am for those on the Euro server...

Lol needless to say many teams came back saying it was extremely hard and died at the first encounter >.< But what can u do entering blindly? Keep a safe build, that expects variety...we made it halfway before wanting to reorganize and experiment...I got so many pm's while fighting asking if we made it I almost killed myself lol.

You will quickly see what will work for a 4 man team that ends up fighting pretty much 2x the amount of your party

Spoiler****REWARD****
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(its a to be continued quest for 50 orbs >.< and will have more stages)


***Spoiler Hint for how to win ***
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Look at what u encounter, the monsters will distinctly remind u of a place we have farmed to death..and make a mini team out of it.



***Spoiler -what worked- ***
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We approached this like the tombs and used a 2 barrage/pet team with a MM and monk...when done we found this is only part one of a "to be continued" mission...good luck and have fun !

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

lol already all in the "Rujiyo!" thread, nice try tho

Dart

Dart

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cantha

Prior Planning Prevents P*ss Poor Performance

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu
lol already all in the "Rujiyo!" thread, nice try tho
eek move me! lol

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

man we have had two other threads moved into this one already LOL, well I ned to get my 6 hours of sleep in before I get woken up early tommorow ehl oh ehl G'Night all