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Soccer55

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Otto's Army [OA]

W/Me

02 Jul 2006 at 08:03 - 241

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy High

There are a lot of times where you can defend ANet's actions as "Oh well, you don't have to do it if you don't like it," but they simply dropped the ball with this quest (unless there is something hidden about it, but I'm not here to speculate).
It's crap, plain and simple. If you're looking for challenge...do ToPK with 4 people. It's the same thing, except you also get a reward. Note that a reward is not necessary all the time, but there has to be SOMETHING to justify doing this quest. It doesn't even advance a story, because it's endlessly repeatable. At this moment, 50 orbs are worthless, plain and simple. You only need 10 extra after doing the 4 quests, and it's really bloody easy to get those 10.

Furthermore, people who don't frequent forums are going to be even more ticked off at this, becuase it's so much harder than the other quests...yet gives a worse and arguably worthless reward. People will feel like they've in effect wasted an hour (or more, depending on how many times they failed) of game time.

This is an undefendable screw up. There is absolutely no redeeming quality to this "mission". I'm normally one to attack excess negativity, but in this case, y'all need to get your heads out of your (or ANet's) collective asses and see that this was a mistake, unless the entire community is missing something, OR ANet manages to correct it later on by adding something else that ties in with it.

This post completely supports my point. Let's complain about the mission being "lame" and "worthless" before anyone even knows what's going on. No one knows what ANet has in store for us. It may be part of something bigger or it may not. So let's complain about the rewards that come from it! Sounds like a great idea! Let's all not forget about another "lame" and "worthless" Rujiyo quest that takes place in Jaya Bluffs. ANet really screwed up by giving us another one. <insert rolling eyes smiley here>

-Tom

EDIT: Does anyone actually appreciate the things that ANet does for the players in this game? How many companies actually give a crap about what the players want, let alone give them the chance to participate in improving the game? I think most players take for granted the things that ANet does for them.

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

02 Jul 2006 at 08:05 - 242

geotank makes a quick work of those noobs... if i werent so lazy i'd be soloing them :P

Chooby

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 08:06 - 243

I was one of the first to finish this on american servers with a guild group.

We saw the announcment and we went in guild chat: LF 1 Warrior, 1 Ele, 1 necro, 1 Monk.

Ran 1 War with stances and some dmg.
Nuker Ele with flare
BiP Necro with some dmg
Boon prot

Needless to say, we finished it first entry, too bad it sucks as the prize.

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 08:18 - 244

Wut? The Haiju Lagoon mission is replaced by this new Jaya Bluffs one? I only just logged on, so I didn't get to do Haiju, I just spoke to Rujiyo and he sent me to Jaya Bluffs.

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

02 Jul 2006 at 08:21 - 245

I don't care if I get vick axe, or a million k, I hate the tombs and I now hate this quest. Not going to do it ever and if this is what campain 3 is about, not getting 3 either.

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

02 Jul 2006 at 08:22 - 246

Round 2-Jaya Bluffs: Reward... 50 orbs

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

02 Jul 2006 at 08:30 - 247

omg you finished Jaya buffs? congratulations... I found that more difficult than the first one

If this is what chapter 3 has to offer, Im looking forward to the challenge^^

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

02 Jul 2006 at 08:34 - 248

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terra Xin

omg you finished Jaya buffs? congratulations... I found that more difficult than the first one

If this is what chapter 3 has to offer, Im looking forward to the challenge^^

would that be the challenge of the monsters..or the challenge of finding a party simply because your not a cookiecutter class?

(onohedidnt!)

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

02 Jul 2006 at 08:36 - 249

I recently helped Racthoh do this mission by providing morale support, it sucked, more than tombs.. what a waste of time

shadowfell

hamonite anur ruk

Join Date: Jan 2006

Echovald Forest

[PhD] Teh Academy

Me/A

02 Jul 2006 at 08:51 - 250

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesitsrob

I recently helped Racthoh do this mission by providing morale support, it sucked, more than tombs.. what a waste of time

Bleh.. now its multi parts.. and changes without people getting to do all the parts first?

FFS.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

02 Jul 2006 at 08:53 - 251

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowfell

Bleh.. now its multi parts.. and changes without people getting to do all the parts first?

FFS.

Which leads me to believe that all of this can't be for a larger prize.Since they would have given us a game update about it AND they would have given us at least 24 hours tops.

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 09:00 - 252

Rujiyo's name underneath him won't disappear. Click on anyone, anything else, it's still there. Is this something completely new or has it been like that with other NPCs in the game too?

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

02 Jul 2006 at 09:04 - 253

No..the name of NPC's that have quests always stay up, and since its a repeatable quest his name always stays up.

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

02 Jul 2006 at 09:09 - 254

Darn, my messie died. I was well on my way to a survivor title and suddenly Anet sends a lvl 28 goon squad at me. There should be some kind of warning on what about you are to expect. Lvl 28 monsters on noob island is not cool, and for what?
Oh well. Back to the drawing board for a new survivor messy :P

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

02 Jul 2006 at 09:15 - 255

Come to think about it I remember seeing Caption Rujiyo talking in the chat window while working on my unlucky track title, a few hours later he’s no longer talking I haven’t done the quest at all.

Been surfing the web and reading posts here, but from what I have read I don’t have a need to do the quest or quests for 50 to 100 more orbs that I don’t need.

WhiteZombie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

02 Jul 2006 at 09:24 - 256

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zehnchu

Come to think about it I remember seeing Caption Rujiyo talking in the chat window while working on my unlucky track title, a few hours later he’s no longer talking I haven’t done the quest at all.

there was a cool little transition lore when the missions switched over. a guard ran up to rujiyo and they had a huge conversation about the enemy pushing forward into jaya bluffs and that the mainland reinforcements hadnt arrived, speculation that the celestial ministry were behind the delay with their 'paperwork', and appealed for more mercenaries to be sent out to jaya bluffs to investigate.

obviousely, its gonna push forward more. i just hope the last one has something worthwhile ^^

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

02 Jul 2006 at 09:32 - 257

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soccer55

EDIT: Does anyone actually appreciate the things that ANet does for the players in this game? How many companies actually give a crap about what the players want, let alone give them the chance to participate in improving the game? I think most players take for granted the things that ANet does for them.

Maybe that is because they paid for this game? Rumours are that some paid more than 50 bucks for it

Amity and Truth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/N

02 Jul 2006 at 09:39 - 258

The first part was allready gone before i even had the chance to do it. :/
The second part was easy enough and the reward was not worthwhile. What's the whole fuss about Jade Orbs anyways?
I see people using them as a currency even though they're so insanely easy to get...

Lord Palidore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 09:48 - 259

You paid $50 for the core game, inside the box that you checked out with the clerk, and $50 well spent I would think.

What you didn't pay for, is new quest, you dont pay for special in game and holiday events, you didn't pay for titles, you didn't pay for our summer update last year either. You dont even pay for updates period.

Anet makes NO money at all from us after we purchase the game; they are not obligated to give us any updates at all after they have your money. But they still do, and whether you like the updates, or not, be grateful, or at least dont make jerks out of yourselves by rioting about it. It's absolutely fine if you dont like everything they provide us with, but a curtious, and more mature way to handle that would be to send them a message through their website, instead of acting spoiled and ungrateful here.

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

02 Jul 2006 at 09:49 - 260

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesitsrob

I recently helped Racthoh do this mission by providing morale support, it sucked, more than tombs.. what a waste of time

I did more work than you did and I spent 60% of the time running circles...

But seriously, yeah.. Was sort of a big waste of time.

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

02 Jul 2006 at 09:54 - 261

it's not my fault Fingers of Chaos is imba and that I refuse to tank... alrighty, maybe the latter is my fault

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 10:00 - 262

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theus

No..the name of NPC's that have quests always stay up, and since its a repeatable quest his name always stays up.

Da-amn... I need to notice things a bit more as I play.

/doh

Kaldor Meshekal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

England

Rt/N

02 Jul 2006 at 10:03 - 263

Maybe they put it there for, you know, the challenge? The fun of taking out that many level 28 creatures with only a four man group? So the rewards suck, boo hoo. I'm still going to do it.

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

02 Jul 2006 at 10:43 - 264

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kali Magdalene

Don't get me wrong, by the way. I'm not talking about poor players so much as... well, they've never been in the Tombs. They're trying to fight like they're in Tahnnakai Temple or Sunjiang District, and the Factions missions in general are not really all that difficult. Short of doing Underworld and Fissure of Woe, most players just won't have exposure to this endgame kind of content, let alone really get why they're tough to fight.

Well most people dont expect high end content in Shing Jea Monestary. But I agree that the lack of high end stuff like this in factions has put alot of people out of shape for it.

QoH

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Divine Beings

R/

02 Jul 2006 at 10:44 - 265

we flawlessed the mission with 1 warr, 2 ranger, 1 ele team. To be honest decent pulling + kiting > monster AI.

Takonic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

[TFA] The Forsaken Allegience

Mo/

02 Jul 2006 at 10:51 - 266

plowed thru it on 2nd try, first time, i was a MM ( they arent too hawt down there)...died 3 rifts in, 2nd try same group swapped to a SS'er. blew it out of the water!

Monk,Healing with Prot
Echo Nuker MS ele
Echo SS ( me )
Tank Warrior

i must say rewards were poop! but it was fun and challenging, i'd do it again if someone would invite me :P

as for a festivity, quite fun! if the other games arent ur thing...kudos to Anet!

im not dissapointed in the quest/mish itself but theyve couldve made it more cooler!

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

02 Jul 2006 at 10:59 - 267

wOOt it moved.. they are sooo going to invade the monestary

edit: Wait where do you get this qest now? Rujiyo won't give it to me....

Chooby

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 11:03 - 268

Yay, a new mission, whoever finishes it first and tells us the prize gets a cookie! Haiju Lagoon YAY!

Sw33tLou

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 11:05 - 269

According to a new entry on wiki there is a new green axe with a unique skin. Can anyone confirm this?

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Shadows_Hold

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 11:08 - 270

It appears they just restarted everything. Rujiyo temporarily stopped giving the missions, then the NPCs started talking and the exclamation mark above his head came back.

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

02 Jul 2006 at 11:09 - 271

Hmm... well happy hunting I guess.

Chooby

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 11:09 - 272

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sw33tLou

According to a new entry on wiki there is a new green axe with a unique skin. Can anyone confirm this?

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Shadows_Hold

My guess is you get this for beating this mission that has just appeared.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

02 Jul 2006 at 11:11 - 273

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sw33tLou

According to a new entry on wiki there is a new green axe with a unique skin. Can anyone confirm this?

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Shadows_Hold

if this is true imma devise my own pwnteam ^^

and yes, now theres a new area to be cleansed of the rifts..

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

02 Jul 2006 at 11:14 - 274

i look forward to seeing the pictures

Amity and Truth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/N

02 Jul 2006 at 11:15 - 275

In all honesty, apart from judging this event... i must say that the Guild Wars Community can sometimes be downright masochistic. This is basically the only gaming community i know that willingly lowers their own expectations, just because of the lack of a monthly fee.
Arena.net is NOT some kind of charity institution. They're driving a carefully calculated business model there. We don't need to be oh so thankful that they're not having a monthly fee. It is part of their business model and in no way, we should sacrifice our opinion and feedback just to show them our gratitude for not having to pay a monthly fee.

And Arena.net doesn't want us to shut up either. For their business model to work, they will have to accomplish basically two things:

Attract new customers
Keep current customers

And giving out events for "free" is once again not based upon a whim or how much they "love" us, it's part of their business plan to keep players interested in the game. Interested enough to buy the expansions. So please, please don't tell people to stfu just because the game doesn't have a monthly fee. That argument is naught, not functional, busted, worthless.

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 11:15 - 276

A new area you say? Things just restarted, and the mission now available is in Haiju Lagoon. That's the one that things began with, before it changed to Jaya Bluffs.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

02 Jul 2006 at 11:20 - 277

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Symeon

A new area you say? Things just restarted, and the mission now available is in Haiju Lagoon. That's the one that things began with, before it changed to Jaya Bluffs.

might very well be, I slept thru the first change then

anyway, fingers of chaos is not updated with counters for the 2 new classes, is it... Ritualist + echoed Vengeful was someone = pwnage me thinks

and btw Amity and Truth, nice post.. im probably one of the guys that bitch at anet the most

TRUEgamer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

New Hampshire, USA

none

D/

02 Jul 2006 at 11:36 - 278

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amity and Truth

WORDS

Very well said. Personally, though, I think everybody should just stop complaining.

When you buy Guild Wars, you are buying the game. Granted, that includes the storyline (for the title you purchased), any related PvP action, etc., but these festivals are just icing on the cake. They weren't advertised on the box, nor were they awaited by the community for months on end through an advertisement and publicity campaign.

Really, this festival was just a small thing thrown together to make the game fun in a way that hasn't really been done before, except on a few key occasions. Being said, once again, the festival is an extra feature added, at no cost to us should we choose not to participate in it.

If we are participating in the festival, well, then good for us. But I don't think that participating in a free event gives us the right to bitch and moan to game developers about how the reward for a completely free and completely voluntary mini-mission is too small when, really, they're just trying to throw an extra twist into their product.

Not to mention... how many times have you beaten really hard things in other games, and received nothing at all? We should start bitching at 3dRealsm for not giving us more levels in their free Prey demo, or a secret weapon or something when we beat the demo, if this how we are to respond to things handed to us for no cost at all.

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

02 Jul 2006 at 11:51 - 279

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRUEgamer

Very well said. Personally, though, I think everybody should just stop complaining.

When you buy Guild Wars, you are buying the game. Granted, that includes the storyline (for the title you purchased), any related PvP action, etc., but these festivals are just icing on the cake. They weren't advertised on the box, nor were they awaited by the community for months on end through an advertisement and publicity campaign.

Really, this festival was just a small thing thrown together to make the game fun in a way that hasn't really been done before, except on a few key occasions. Being said, once again, the festival is an extra feature added, at no cost to us should we choose not to participate in it.

The game would be more fun when silly noobs like me can kill stuff too. I am forced to create a character in Cantha and move over to Tyria, because the monsters in Cantha are to tough for me. For instance; I can't run away from spirit rifts and can't interrupt either, because it constantly lags a bit. I can't click on moving monsters, because when I click, it is not really there anymore.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRUEgamer

If we are participating in the festival, well, then good for us. But I don't think that participating in a free event gives us the right to bitch and moan to game developers about how the reward for a completely free and completely voluntary mini-mission is too small when, really, they're just trying to throw an extra twist into their product.

By creating this last mini-game, I get the feeling that Anet is mocking my player skill. They don't give shit about the below average player. In fact they simply create more monsters even harder to beat. And when you really persist in killing it, what does it drop?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRUEgamer

Not to mention... how many times have you beaten really hard things in other games, and received nothing at all? We should start bitching at 3dRealsm for not giving us more levels in their free Prey demo, or a secret weapon or something when we beat the demo, if this how we are to respond to things handed to us for no cost at all.

I can't remember that. Last online games I played was Diablo 2 and Dungeon Siege. These games are quite opposite of your point of view. In these games, the bigger the monster you beat, the better the loot. That is what I like most about it.
Anet thinks that people don't kill monsters for the rewards and goes to great lengths in nerving that part of the fun.

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

E/

02 Jul 2006 at 12:21 - 280

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent Kitty

The game would be more fun when silly noobs like me can kill stuff too. I am forced to create a character in Cantha and move over to Tyria, because the monsters in Cantha are to tough for me. For instance; I can't run away from spirit rifts and can't interrupt either, because it constantly lags a bit. I can't click on moving monsters, because when I click, it is not really there anymore.

By creating this last mini-game, I get the feeling that Anet is mocking my player skill. They don't give shit about the below average player. In fact they simply create more monsters even harder to beat. And when you really persist in killing it, what does it drop?

I can't remember that. Last online games I played was Diablo 2 and Dungeon Siege. These games are quite opposite of your point of view. In these games, the bigger the monster you beat, the better the loot. That is what I like most about it.
Anet thinks that people don't kill monsters for the rewards and goes to great lengths in nerving that part of the fun.

your first problem is becasue you have bad lag, thats not anets fault, its your isp.

2nd you are complaing things are too hard, well im sorry to say, but if the made the game any easier, Id have to stop playing from lack of challange. creating high level content is a good thing, it keeps people playing after they have beaten the game