Would a statement from ANet help?

You're right, and I know they don't want to piss people off.

But that's what I'm here for, to do what I can to let them know how a side of the people think so that hopefully these suggestions can be put into movement along with and in cooperation with others to make the game better as a whole. (Because I NEED something else to do in this game...)

Very true, it has been re-inforced over and over that this game is skill orientated and not item based.

Creston, while I do not have moderator powers (darn it ), please, I am asking you for the second time, stay on topic. If you want to open a discussion about Chinese sweatshops or whatever, start a new thread. Please.

I think I'd be inclined to agree, though I think this thread was whether or not they should give the community a statement or not.

....but it wouldn't surprise me that's the part they are struggling to try and balance

I see your point

The bottom line is that the nerfing has reached rediculous levels. I recently ran a couple drakes in Gates of Kyrta solo (Only killed 8 or so before I died), but I got terrible items, like 3 whites and 1 pile of gold. The other 4 dropped nothing.

I got better items from the chests I found in the mission.

What is there to stop me from doing chest runs to slowly make money, and not something that actually requires a bit of thought?

I don't think its necessary, no real testing has gone into figuring out whats going on -- so far only knee-jerk reactions have been posted about the update. I personally like it when the community can get together and figure out whats going on, whats best to do and whats not, etc. I've got a theory or two that I intend to check out more fully tonight, and I'd like to think that other people are willing to think their way through whats going on.

However people's mindsets are item based, therein lies the rub. My Ranger has ascended with basically a piece of guano bow and is still moving on. While I keep my eyes open for something better, the world isn't going to stop and the sun won't go nova if I can't find that uber-gold max damage Bow of Instant Death When You Show It To The Enemy.

would u be happy if u could get your FoW armor in a day? i guess you would... then I think you would stop blaming ANet for their updates. Gush guys, whatta heck? Then whta re you gonan do with the game besides tellign your tales to your friends... Its a game dammit, its just a simple game... You play it for fun and in return you dont expect to get anything back. no one owes you an explanation, that's correct. no one will also not change anything for you just because u want to go in god mode from the first day, thats the other truth... game is the same game and you can still beat it with any weapons or armors you can get from loots. so stop wining please and just play the game. c u in the game...

yeah u know, i think it would be a lot better for EVERYBODY if people made threads in the Sardelac Sanitarium about the update. We should actually try to find solutions for the problems people are having instead of just bashing them, like THX has said.

I gotta agree.

If the game is going in a direction that I don't like (killing PvE and focusing on PvP), then I'd like to know not to waste any more time and money on it.

Not that tehre's anything wrong with PvP - but it's not my thing - I bought this for a PvE game that could actually be true multi-player, with some chance to PvP added in for a little variety. I bought 2 copies of the game (1 for me, one for my wife) so we could both play.

Now, we've all bought games that turned out to not be what we expected - so we put them on as shelf and moved on to something else. This isn't a whine about that - but I would like to know where things stand, and where they are heading.

I do have those powers, Creston's rants/flamebait have been deleted.

Quoted for truth.

I have tested Nolani Academy, Divinity Coast and Gates of Kryta. The nerfing is inline with the posts on this forum. As for the economy what would be an acceptable test I would be glad to attempt it. I have tried out a few theriores even going so far as to attempt to solo Hells Precipice wth my best farming build (I killed the first 2 groups of Titians) I got nothing. I personaly never new that Hells Precipice was a farming spot so the changes apear to be global. (May well be a mistake in the update).

Nope - but I don't want to spend 5 years on it either. There has to be a realistic balance.

I think that one thing that ANet needs to realize is that (at least on the PvE side) they have created a world - with an economy, with laws of supply and demand, and tampering with it carelessly can lead to a depression.

Reduce the number of drops, and the amount of gold I can get - fine! But I want my Fissure armor someday! I'm not a pro farmer - I'm not one of the people who say they can farm 10k per hour - heck, I don't think I've ever even had over 10k - it's not greed or anything fior me - it's practicality....

Reading that sentence , Anet is literally screaming "Stop your UltimaOnline/Everquest PvE antics , go PvP ".

Now i just wonder, if we look purely at PvP..does the "going downhill" still apply? I don't see any threads criticising PvP-core mechanics specifically [only criticism stems from either PvE related unlocking of stuff or are actually fixed/updated very fast ].


Maybe "normally" = PvPing with limited PvEing to familiarise yourself with a build and the various skills. Really, i think someone should define what GWs definition of "normal" play is , something tells me PvP owns the LARGER part of "normal play" than PvE.

I wouldnt be surprised if they meant through PvP. If we can't unlock all armor/weapons via PvP already then i'm sure that we eventually will be able to.

if you've never had over 10K why are you even contemplating purchasing fissure armor??? you're about 300K short.

Thats the thing, they really don't need to explain everything. If I decide to stop playing they are not losing out on my money.

I'm probably on the side of this game needs to be better balanced. If next year the new update comes and I hear that it has become another diablo I'd probably not spend money on it.

Though they have set a precedent of responding to the community so I can understand people's concerns

Anet has tried to fix the PVP/PVE balance, but failed, if you ask me. If the game is infact skill based and not an endless grind (like the oh so evil other MMOs), why do I have to grind forever to get enough faction for 1 rune, or to gather unidentified armor to unlock runes?

I always thought the point of GW from the betas, previews, etc was to have an awesome PVP component with international tournaments, strategy needed for teams, etc. On the surface they've succeeded here, PVP at higher levels (Team Arena, GVG, Tombs) is a great way for people to battle it out and actually know what they're doing. The other side was the PVE, which was good. For a while.

The PVP weapons PVP characters chose from are good weapons with good base mods. Why should any joe schmo have access to that from the get go but a PVE character has to grind for hours to get a similar weapon? And the chances of that happening are now very small, unless they get a collector weapon. Collector weapons are the single saving grace of PVE's nerfing, if you ask me, because I can still get a +15% bow. Even if it still requires grinding, although less than any other way.

If I wanted a "pvp" experiece playing against real people I wouldn't be playing this game, I've got 4 RP chars. created and don't have the interest for pvp at the moment. I bought a RP game so I could play a RP game,

Heh....300k for fissure armor? What dream world are you living in? You're about a million or two off from the actual cost of it. If I'm correct in needing 105 ecto for a full set you're looking at over a million right there....

Wow - thanks for the brilliant insight.

As I said - I hate farming. I have been concentrating on gameplay. But at some point, when I have exhausted the gameplay, that is the only remaining objective.

I thought I made that rather clear?