New update!!!

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Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

I hoped for more changes ... =/

INP

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOT
Ya know, this is like the 3rd thread in 5 minutes I have seen you posting your one liner bullshit about hating arenanet. This site is a fansite for people who do not hate arenanet.

Shut the frog up and stop wasting our time, moron.
ive posted in 2 threads today, so i dont really see how thats possible you idiot

Morganas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

NOOO my shatter hex farming has been nerfed

Oh well, didn't use it in pvp anyways.

00039

00039

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Me Want Snuu[Snuu]

D/W

I keep hearing about another solo build taht uses a /N secondary..hopefully some fool will post it so anet can slap it with the nerf stick

octaviancmb

octaviancmb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Me/

Ok ANET,

Protective Bond, I can understand, really, it was too strong. But why, oh why did you reduce the radius of the Mesmer Shatter Hex and lower its damage by 23 points? Surely we lowly Mesmers were not abusing one of the few skills we had going for us?

Most of the changes: good
Reducing Shatter Hex: not good
Majority of Mesmer Elites: still bad

Then again, we can at least play with hexes in PvP again. Perhaps it all comes out in the wash.

Overall, good update. Thanks ANET!
cmb

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moltov joss
I dont care about easy farming or SS. I want to leave for differant reasons. Is that cool?
no

if you're leaving it must have been because of one of the reasons i specified

because it matters what i think

Sinbios

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Audhumla
The invicimonk needed to be nerfed and everyone knows it. No other class can solo with such effeciency and ease.

I'm happy to see the nice buff to necs
Indeed, no other class can solo with such efficiency. And now, nobody will solo with such efficiency; the overall ecto farming efficiency will drop. He~llo, 30k ectos!

Mystical

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Mississauga, Ontario

Inyurface Gaming [IYF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinbios
Indeed, no other class can solo with such efficiency. And now, nobody will solo with such efficiency; the overall ecto farming efficiency will drop. He~llo, 30k ectos!
And the rich get richer.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morganas
NOOO my shatter hex farming has been nerfed

Oh well, didn't use it in pvp anyways.
NOOOO! Shatter Hex, why did you have to die? /mourn


Quote:
Correct, and that means more healers for us xD
Right now, it just means a bunch of monks in ToA who don't have any useful skill whatsoever and refuse to heal, even though they don't give a thought to healing others.

Lost

Lost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hell's Precipice

I think the price of Superior Monk Runes may take a dive. I just now sold off those monk runes I bought cheap awhile back. A nice profit for me.

Vwoss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Leader of Communist Communist Revolution (CCR)

So, 17 still won't bring it down to 2?

I just wanted to easily and innocently farm hydras...

Sinbios

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by HH-
And the rich get richer.
Who gives a damn about the rich? The rich will /always/ get richer. It's the economy that matters.

SOT

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

Quote:
Originally Posted by INP
ive posted in 2 threads today, so i dont really see how thats possible you idiot
My mistake, 3rd POST of stupidity.

Stop being an asstard. Stop posting your useless 'i hate anet' claptrap, get a job, and leave us be.

Calibretto_9

Calibretto_9

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Zanza Barbarians

W/

Nah, I think you'll see increased drops in ecto to encourage team runs. I think that's what Anet is trying to get at with a few of these nerfs, especially the invincimonk. I don't think it was so much as, "They can and we can't!" as it was that class was destroying one of the game's key elements - Team play. Heck, everybody and their brother was whipping up a 105/55 monk. It was getting pretty darn ridiculous. Anywho though, I think you'll see more drops because farming is harder. At least that's what I hope.

Vwoss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Leader of Communist Communist Revolution (CCR)

I believe the ones most interested in nerfing Prot Bond were those affected by it in pvp, or those that felt gold isn't very valuable in this game anyway.

agentblade

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Iron Legion of Kurzick [ILK]

Me/E

nice updates... lets give credit to A.Net.. they're really trying their best to make sure this game is as balanced as it possibly can. Now we all know that a perfectly balanced game is impossible cos everyone's idea of balanced is totally different... but A.Net wants this game to be a game of skills and not a game where a certain build owns every build..

I say Good Job A.Net.. Keep the updates coming.. It not only makes the game more balanced, it keeps up excited.. who doesn't like changes anyway.. Stale becomes rotten.. I guess it'll be a matter of time before things stabalizes and less updates will be required.. GW is such a new game anyway.

Jessy

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray
... and that means more healers for us xD
And how did you reach that marvellous conclusion, genius?

SOT

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessy
And how did you reach that marvellous conclusion, genius?
Beer. Lots and lots of beer.

Zenny

Zenny

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Moa Birds [MB]

Mo/N

Much love for the new patch.

My only comment is, I'm glad to see they 'attempted' to nerf smite groups to an extent with the increase recharge times for Draw Condtions and Divine Boon.

BUT!

That wasn't the main abuse tho... >.> The real nerf should have hit Ether Renewal which supplies the smiters with near infinite energy.

Smiters now have to omgz add one skill to their lineup and combo Draw Conditions and Reversal of Fortune.

Vwoss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Leader of Communist Communist Revolution (CCR)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessy
And how did you reach that marvellous conclusion, genius?
True, I get the feeling that many disgruntled 105 monks will be going on hiatus soon. I doubt we'll see many ToA monks for awhile.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenny
Much love for the new patch.

My only comment is, I'm glad to see they 'attempted' to nerf smite groups to an extent with the increase recharge times for Draw Condtions and Divine Boon.

BUT!

That wasn't the main abuse tho... >.> The real nerf should have hit Ether Renewal which supplies the smiters with near infinite energy.

Smiters now have to omgz add one skill to their lineup and combo Draw Conditions and Reversal of Fortune.
But Renewal is such a nice and useful Elementalist skill, outside of farming.

INP

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOT
My mistake, 3rd POST of stupidity.

Stop being an asstard. Stop posting your useless 'i hate anet' claptrap, get a job, and leave us be.
Wow, i make 2 posts about Arena net, then comment on a stupid remark you made, and you make it sound 30 times worse, if either of us is a asstard its you, and if my posts bug you so much just ignore them

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lord_shar
Well, my soloing necro/mesmer survived the latest nerfs!
Blast you, my w/r build for the UW got nerfed because of that quickening zephyr change.

Well at least now there are a lot more monks lfg in the ToA. Even more so when this weekend ends.

I'm thoroughly upset with the warrior changes. 3? That's it?

The healing seed change... I'm upset. I enjoyed when a monk would cast that spell on me.

Lady Ting

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

nyc

Chaos Muffinz

W/R

WHAT!!, i just finish busting out 100k+ for my invinci monk now it gets nerfed ?!?!?! i hope every one deserts gw and anet gets screwed seriously wtf.... how am i suppost to come up with 1000k+ for fissure..

Moltov joss

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
no

if you're leaving it must have been because of one of the reasons i specified

because it matters what i think

I'm leaving because of /nerf period! I don't have a invinci monk or play ss or any ranger in pvp for that matter. I just don't like the fact that they feel the need to nerf everything. Thats the way I feel, and Im off to play other games. BF2 and WOW. Oh and ANETs idea was to make money off of expansions for guildwars. Good luck because my gw is going in the trash.

What you think really only matters to you as what I think only really matters to me, and I think this game is taking a turn for the worse.

newjacksm

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Long Island

Revenge of the Nurds

Mo/W

its good update!

Vwoss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Leader of Communist Communist Revolution (CCR)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Blast you, my w/r build for the UW got nerfed because of that quickening zephyr change.

Well at least now there are a lot more monks lfg in the ToA. Even more so when this weekend ends.

I'm thoroughly upset with the warrior changes. 3? That's it?

The healing seed change... I'm upset. I enjoyed when a monk would cast that spell on me.
Thing is, I bet many of those "a lot more monks" aren't happy about what they have to do now. They have been oppressed into this.

Zenny

Zenny

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Moa Birds [MB]

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vwoss
But Renewal is such a nice and useful Elementalist skill, outside of farming.
Then let's say... make it Elemental Spells only? I don't mind groups that smite, but the patch was supposed to tame them so they don't OMGWTFPWNZOR. Not make 0 difference in them.

If anything. I can see them more rampart with the nerf to Nature's Renewal.

newjacksm

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Long Island

Revenge of the Nurds

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Ting
WHAT!!, i just finish busting out 100k+ for my invinci monk now it gets nerfed ?!?!?! i hope every one deserts gw and anet gets screwed seriously wtf.... how am i suppost to come up with 1000k+ for fissure..
lots of people were in the same boat as you were

i dished out WAy more then u did before the trader patch came out

i dont really care.. honestly its just a game.. im sure theres other ways around it

FatherNurgle

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Nite Terrors

W/N

Ok, lets hang weights on are balls till they are all the same length. One of the good things about the game was that there were differences. Y not give everyone the same skills to choose from.

They really nerfed prot bond, which is now worthless!

This guys said this, "I don't get why they're so desperate to get rid of the solo farming monk. How /else/ do they expect people to come up with the horrendous amounts of ecto and shards they set to get fissure armour?"

Right on! Very astute. The one thing they have is an exceptional gift at Freaking up the economy. This is the one skill that they have. I have played many online games, and usually about the same time they tinker with it, and ppl leave! You are gonna lose a lot of ppl who played your damn game so long and the only thing they had to do was farm. They kept the ecto flowing. THE SPICE MUST FLOW DAMN IT!

Expect price hikes on everything in UW and FOW!

I am gonna stop playing I think. I spent sooo many hours saving the gold to buy those damn runes, just to farm. I am just about breaking even, but all my time lost. People who whine... they could do what I did, make a monk and save! They to could have one! But no Anet has not sense.

I am going to WoW! I left there to try GW. The only thing that kept me here was its price. Now that they screwed up the game, I am better off going back to a solid game. I was growing tired of it anyway. Without farming, Ill never get that cool armor. No one ever accused computer programers of being economically efficient.

If you continue to nerf everything distict quality of every class because a few ppl who whine about not being able to solo, you have only made the minority happy. A smite monk could not PvP or really even play in many missions. A well placed drain or strip enchantment would cripple a smite monk.

All and all, good job, you completely stuck your hands down your pants on this one, and you try and get ppl to pvp. Trying to make skills better, just made them unusable.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moltov joss
I'm leaving because of /nerf period! I don't have a invinci monk or play ss or any ranger in pvp for that matter. I just don't like the fact that they feel the need to nerf everything. Thats the way I feel, and Im off to play other games. BF2 and WOW. Oh and ANETs idea was to make money off of expansions for guildwars. Good luck because my gw is going in the trash.

What you think really only matters to you as what I think only really matters to me, and I think this game is taking a turn for the worse.
wow

i didn't think people this thick still existed

turn on your sarcasm detector sir

Borealis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Black Rose Gaming

Mo/W

I'll be one of those monks going on hiatus, or I'll be a smiter and only a smiter. People complain about solo monks, now you've got pissed off monks. Take your pick I guess. lol

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

haven't played with the new update yet... but.. I do have a mesmer who has just been affected by the update in a negative way.

And while its nice that healing seed now costs 10 energy... uhm.. it also doesn't last as long... oh thanks... I'm sure my primary healer is gonna enjoy that... but.. I haven't played yet, so can't say for sure how it'll affect me ultimatly.

B3H

B3H

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Mid-West

Cheer Up Emo Kid [EMO]

W/R

Oh Hell No

Vwoss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Leader of Communist Communist Revolution (CCR)

You know, even during the height of the UW soloers, I never noticed a healing monk shortage. Maybe others are bad at getting groups together, but I could always get 2 monks (and a good portion of a group) in 5-10 minutes.

Sinbios

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by FatherNurgle
Right on! Very astute. The one thing they have is an exceptional gift at Freaking up the economy. This is the one skill that they have. I have played many online games, and usually about the same time they tinker with it, and ppl leave! You are gonna lose a lot of ppl who played your damn game so long and the only thing they had to do was farm. They kept the ecto flowing. THE SPICE MUST FLOW DAMN IT!
Aha, here's their trick; we've bought the game already. This isn't WoW, where they have to keep us entertained. I can't see good things for them if they try to sell the expansion, though.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moltov joss
Thick. Try you are a prick!

One thing I really hated about this community is coming on to the forums and hearing opinions from short sighted c o c k-sucks like you.

Ban me I don't give a shit!
you sure do complain a lot

i thought you were quitting and leaving

AeroLion

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Not sure I understand why the rebalancing of Hex Breaker and Shatter Hex. Anyone smarter than me care to speculate?

coleslawdressin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Victory on Demand [VoD]

Me/Mo

I really expected better balance changes than this.................... so many weak skills ignored and so many other skills um.......... nerfed? (I do not care about prot bond)

I am done with guild wars for now... see you all at the next update......

Moltov joss

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
you sure do complain a lot

i thought you were quitting and leaving
I am I promise.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

I've been a few random groups with smiting monks that use hex breaker.. All you hear from the enemy team for 10 minutes is "CLICK CLICK CLICK"

I don't know if it was really that great or why they did that. I'de like to know why myself.