New update!!!

or GOLD Wars

You keep saying that, as if they are stealing the ectos from you. If you want the "rewards" in the UW, go get it.

hardly anyone worried about enchantment removal?

But I have a question: does Aegis now cover the Ghostly Hero and the Priest? They are not really party members. If Aegis still does this - what has been changed?

Soo this skill got nerfed, hence solo runs in UW for monks are if not impossible much harder. What about when you need prot bond for missions. Perhaps tougher ones they will release in the big patch. What about using it just for exploring or remotely in pvp? I tried a griffon run with it and u really kant get nrg back with it on. Im not complaining or praising, just throwing this stuff out there.

For the average players who play as a team will need monks to help heal the group in the Underworld. Since the 105/55 build came out it became VERY hard to get a monk in the team because Monks dont need a team to play in underworld they could go solo leaving the rest to struggle and they get all the rewards.

Not quite stealling Sinbios more GREEDY if you ask me

Also had a Mo/W, also kinda pissed because it took me some time to make 1. But don't you think farming is a fault of Anet themselves? If they didn't introduce any FoW or 15k armor sets at all, there would be less farming...It's their own fault that people go farming, so if you introduce something like that, don't nerf any farming area's.

I guess there will be a new build in a month, people get smarter and smarter...let them nerf, Anet hasn't got the best people around, the players will allways be smarter.

Use protective spirit, the UW are still very easy. They made P. Bond useless. Next up, they'll attack protective spirit. Why not just add enchantment removal to UW? That'd solve that problem much easier. Instead they make one skill next to useless. They keep saying they're not against soloing or farming, but they went a bit overboard in an attempt to shatter the 55/105 build. Instead, they made the monk change to the skill right below the one that has now been nerfed.

One useless skill, and UW is still easy to solo. So what was the purpose?

A healing monk can't just turn into a 55 smiter overnight.

Get over yourself, this monk hate is getting ridiculous.

If you believe this situation has been resolved by chopping skills, I believe you are mistaken. The reality is that I play my monk the way I see fit, and if an existing method is removed, I don't look favorably at the manner proposed by means of force.

If anyone wonders why one of the Anet staff a while back said something along the lines of a majority forum posters isn't necessarily a majority of users, note that yesterday the 105/55 haters were abundant and people were leaving because of it/never purchasing anything from them again. Today, exactly the opposite. Whos right? Probably neither, if anything I would bet that there are fewer people willing to leave because they no longer can use a 105/55 monk than ones who feel their time is worthless because of it (I say this just by looking at the number of Monks vs others I see going into the UW, thier server logs would be quite accurate). The number of times I've seen that stated in the handful of other online games is amusing (considering I saw it on EQ when it first came out). I do not see Anet as being any better or worse than any of the others MMORPG's i've tried, a lot of these complaints remind me of the "But I can buy this 50 dollar game over there for 10 dollars! Sell it to me for 10!". Well, go over there and buy/play that game if you speak the truth. If you know where perfection is, why are you over here?

And, while I am not really an onlline game veteran (generally prefer single player games) the few I have played were MUCH worse than this over nerfs. Not only that but many of them didn't give skill refund points - you build just died. For people like me that had a limited amount of time onlilne this could ruin quite a few months of work (DAOC once ruined, IIRC, about 8 moths of development on a single character of mine - I did quit over that. Had I been able to reconfigure it that would have been fine, nor was I doing what was being abused and I had started the build well before anyone was abusing the skills, nor did I go moan about it on boards).

So, did anyone truly think that build *wasn't* going to get hit with the Big Nerf Bat? I knew it the first time I saw it, I bet the vast majority also knew it.

I sense Greed in your reply Jessy Dont worry son you can join our team on the next run. Just means you will have to share your wares LOL

The problem is, the build was not hit. The skill was nerfed. The build is still alive and well.

Did you think about the possibility that a lot of the 105 monk players might not go UW anymore at all instead of helping you out with UW? I have been in a lot of UW PUGs and a great number of GW players still seems to be too stupid to clear out the first room... When I was set up as a solo smiter I have seen more of the UW then I ever have when set up as a healer in a PUG...

ROTFL...

You are right, you really don't need a whole night to exchange a set of armor and adjust some attribute points.

Damn good point

Ok let me add something that has already been said. Simply to illustrate there are many who feel this way.

Pvp balancing = good

10 second healing seed = BAD

Blech.

Oh no doubt. I've been waiting for it for awhile

Now all you have to do is learn how to read this thread, and you'll be just as happy as you can be again. Amazing how quickly people can change in their views.

Mabey now Monk farming has been nerfed they will make the drops better overall again.

I KNOW, HAAHAHAHHA..

Priceless.

As i said before

Come up with YOUR OWN build to solo farm, stop whigeing becuase the one you copied dosnt work anymore.

Yes it wasnt just monks that could solo farm, but they were just FAR TOO SUPED up compared to the rest.

As aron said, good point on that one. But I'll add something: Not only some MMO don't give you refund points, but you must take a lot of time lvling and buying items, it's long and you're extremely prone to mistakes (and in some cases, one mistake in skill attribution means you have to scrap around a month of work and try again *cough*MapleStory*cough*) Guild Wars? No lvling grind, can change attribute, secondary class, etc. A dream, yea!

Who said monk farming was nerfed ???????? They just changed the way of doing it, thats all

WAAAAAAAAAAAHGHH What will I do without my millions of plats and 100 ectos and shards WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHGH need a new game quick quick I cant get by without my 105/55 ROFLMO

The update felt a bit lacking. Not much buffs on the less used skills. Same for enchantment removal.

People who fail to read are the ones who continue to say it's nerfed.

Agreed, after that ign article I was expecting a massive overhaul of underpowered skills and the end result is sorely disappointing. Oh well, there's the summer update I guess.. but I'm not gonna expect much.

I do understand it's generally not good to have a massive overhaul and to approach balancing by pecking away with minor changes until it reaches the balancing point... but this update was already a MAJOR overhaul with spirits and whatnot.. might as well have went all the way to breathe life into the game...

ok and WHAT should i do ? prot bond drains energy , and when i get to griffons i am dead ! i can farm with warrior but it is much easyer with monk ? what can i do tell me ? PM me if you dont want everyone to know ?

Read this thread.

I believe they put that 5 second recharge in to prevent putrid explosion skill spamming to deny anyone else "bodies" for their own PE or animated pets or wells, etc. It was in the "interview" @ IGN about the upcomming changes - they just felt PE being as spammable as it was, was deny'ing anyone else the ability to utilize any bodies for their own PE, summon's, well's, etc. Sorry I can't provide a link tho, can't remember where I found the link (tried searching but couldn't find it).

Yeps.... i have always used a different way of farming for my monk/elementist..... and u can do it with ease... even the monk/warriors can keep their build almost intact.

But the people who fail to read and even just try to make their own build, should probably not farm anyway, because they are not fit to play the game anyway. They are just stealing other peoples inventions, not even trying to build their own char.

That is why i love it when things get nerfed, people without an imagination/creativity quit farming and leave it up to the build creators themselfes. (Until somone posts their build on the forum that is)

Then everyone want the build, everyone rush out..... i need a monk, who can run me to droknar for 5K... who can sell me that - 50 icon for 20K. oh i need it so much right now.... and can i please buy monk runes for 3 times the price of rune trader.....

oh you don't need to link me... cuz that actually makes a lot of sense. at least i know they had a good reason to add the recharge time. thanks for the info

Now its even harder, since the update all monks in TOA are charging 5K to heal or on strike, gj dumb s*** anet

They'll quit, they're just angry.

Of course, they'll use Protective Spirit, and you won't hear from them.

Single player farming is faaaar from over.
There where builds before this monk stuff and there are still a couple more builds out there.
Im general not one to say something not nice but, some of yall are cry babies. And I feel sorry for you if youve invested this much emotion into this game.

Other than that....some of the changes that got my attention.

Glyph of Sacriface was actually a nice skill with a killer penality. Now its not as killer. Good change.

Healing Seed!...I didnt see that coming. I actually like it. Very intersting.

I dont think the changes to putrid, draw conditions and boon will stop the abuse of corspe denail and zealot spamming. I think it will slow it down, but only marginally.
Thats just my prediction. Hopefully, Im wrong.

Pets get some love. Goooood. I dont play with pet but Im glad its getting some love.
I hope they continue to work with pets in forms of commanding them and such.
Every change to spirits is good, imo.
Place your spirit in a stratigic spot if you know whats good.
I like the new Crippling Shot. Looks like it would work well with pet rangers that dont have any points in marksmanship. Keep a lot of folks at bay with it now.
Savage shot got a God send. It will be worth looking out for.

Over all, Im happy. I like how these folks balancing skills think.
gg

Are you blaming Anet because other people are acting like bitches?

Yeah, its just growing pains. That crap will end soon enough.

Seems like a sensible move on Anet's part. No doubt there are a lot of frustrated individuals who find their UW solo builds or spirit spams are micromanaged (Yes, micromanaged, NOT nerfed), but the only people I see saying that this update was a bad idea are:

a) Those who were making profits from soloing UW/FoW or winning PvP with the same cookie-cutter builds, and have now had their complacent builds disrupted.
b) Those who complain every single time Anet make any sort of update, whether it's for changing the price of dye, or changing the colour of cornstalks.

It's still to early to tell the long-term effects of the skill update, but for the moment, I believe that it has encouraged those who like a challenge to rethink and reappraise their own builds, and to find new ways to overcome the recent update.

Does this mean that skills now max out at attribute level 15?

This is not PvE game ffs. If u dont like it, quit. Less noobs in pvp.

there were no buffs to enchantment removal... that is a problem i believe that will start to show really fast

Ok, either I'm having a REALLY bad day.. or healing seed doesn't do its job the way it did 2 days ago when I last played my healer... Anyone got a suggestion for a decent replacement skill?

I am glad then nurfed the solo monk build. It's stupid to have an uber tank just farm and farm a screw up the economy for the rest of us. You know what is really screwed up? When you can buy 100k off some dood on Ebay for $7 and then buy whatever you want!

I swear some of you people cry like little babies. "Wah imma quit cuz I dont like ANet cuz its their game and they made me buy it and play it waaaaaah." You want to leave then go away. You are probably one of those retards that dosent listen to the team leader anyway.

I used to farm in a couple spots and make decent money at it until the market got saturated by proffessional UW monks. Now you cant sell crap unless it is freaking awesome gear, and if you want awesome gear, you have to pay like 100k for it. That is just dumb.