W/X FoW Spider Farmer

knoll

knoll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Washington State.

[ToA]

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I just did the run, or well part of it, when i got to spiders the scales were right by the tunnel, then i killed the mesmer spiders, but then i triggered all of the spiders is there a way to only trigger a few at a time?

it wasnt a waste of 1k i got 2 keys and a shard.

(update)

Now i have done it 4 times but after first run alot of scales are there. And i always Die b/c of life transfer and siphion and i always die there.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

hmm i guess it just takes getting used too , (tip: get the helm from henge for when your running past the skales , the hexes only last 1/2 the time then)

hmmm im using Rhuobhe template im seeing if it can been done without tactics

zeakous sword of shelter
strength sheild with +8 vs percing

15 strength (+4)
13 sword (+3)
10 wilderness

power attack
galrath slash
final thrust
doyalk sigit
troll ungenat
Melandru's Resiliance
i will survive
sprint

this build should acauly work ok , credit to Rhuobhe , trick is it has no healing sigit , no tactics , u can go without 4 health degen forever because in Melandru's Resiliance's down time u can do i will survive , troll ungeant should be able to keep u aive and seeing as u will have +40 armor from doyalk sigit + 24 from your sheild and +7 from yur sword u should be doing ok on dmg reduction.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

To everyone... find the safe spots to stop. When you stop, heal to full before running again. There is no reason why your health should be low enough for Life Transfer + Life Siphon to kill you.

Also, all of the spiders will come out. There is nothing you can do to stop them from coming once you have gotten the first group to spawn. However, if you aggro/put in arrow into the closest one to you it will only pull 3 at a time. If it pulls more, it means you hit one that was too close to another. In that case, you will pull 6 which my original build could beat handily. Just pull them way back as far as you can without aggroing skales.

There... now please stop whispering me asking me about it. I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it time and time again.

knoll

knoll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Washington State.

[ToA]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
There... now please stop whispering me asking me about it. I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it time and time again.
Sorry for whispering you, i wanted to ask the guy who built the build and also i did not know if you hit a group of 3 that is close to another group it will pull also.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

It's just in general to everyone... not at any one person (sorry if I'm coming off like that). I am starting to get basic questions about the game and it's getting frustrating. There is not much else I can tell you in game that I did not lay out in the guide, or is laid out in the 22 pages that have developed from it.

So if I'm asked if Watch Yourself triggers automatically, or what my weapon/shield are, or anything along those lines... please, please just refer to the guide. I'm probably just frustrated because I tried putting my faith back in puging which was obviously a mistake. If all else fails, refer to the video. It shows start to finish clearing them.

Blade Rez

Blade Rez

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fairfax, VA

Shadows Of Nightmares (KoN)

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Well Ractoth, really great job. I just put in an axe build and put in mending. I pulled 6 shards on one run. That made my day

knoll

knoll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Washington State.

[ToA]

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Finally did a full run 3 shards and 2.3k worth of stuff and matterials, I just have to be Patient with the spiders. Only if i was as smart as you to create a build...

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

I stayed away from this area on my warrior for a long time due to Ancient Skales spawning closer to the Cave entrance and that Shadow Mesmers now chase after me.

I'll give it go again tomorrow. I need to make money again lol.

Nater

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Illusion Of Skill

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
It's just in general to everyone... not at any one person (sorry if I'm coming off like that). I am starting to get basic questions about the game and it's getting frustrating. There is not much else I can tell you in game that I did not lay out in the guide, or is laid out in the 22 pages that have developed from it.

So if I'm asked if Watch Yourself triggers automatically, or what my weapon/shield are, or anything along those lines... please, please just refer to the guide. I'm probably just frustrated because I tried putting my faith back in puging which was obviously a mistake. If all else fails, refer to the video. It shows start to finish clearing them. That must be annoying...I've trained a few Warrior friends/guildies in the arts of Racthoh, and I get the same thing from them. Can't imagine how it must be getting it from 22 pages worth of thread.

Yes people, you NEED Gladiators Armor. You do NOT need to salvage your Dragons Armor with a Sup Absorb installed to craft Gladiators armor. *smackshead*

(i had a guildie do that, and he lost the rune, had to buy another)

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

To those who have asked me to upload the video again because they say it's corrupted (or something along those lines), from what I can gather from Filefront they are doing maintenance on users with names from M to S. As such, you can't download at this moment.

Me NoFat

Me NoFat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

USA

Crimson Explorers Worldwide {CrEw}; Lifetime graduate of [LBS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
To those who have asked me to upload the video again because they say it's corrupted (or something along those lines), from what I can gather from Filefront they are doing maintenance on users with names from M to S. As such, you can't download at this moment. I think they will wait a little longer Racthoh. With almost a 3 month life on this thread I would say that you have one of the few threads that people will keep coming back to time and again.

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nater
Yes people, you NEED Gladiators Armor. why do you "need" glad armor?

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

Also did it without it.

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Cause it looks seckseh?

Jedit

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by striderkaaru
why do you "need" glad armor? Because it has the highest defence against physical damage and it gives you much needed energy.

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedit
Because it has the highest defence against physical damage and it gives you much needed energy. i should probably rephrase. although it is true that glad armor gives you an additional 5 armor against physical damage and additional energy, it is not an absolute necessity. i highlighted the word "need" because i feel that it is true strong. "suggested" or "recommended" would be better. yes, i will agree that the glad armor would be the best choice for this particular run, but it is not needed.

i did the runs using platemail. rac used to do it with dragon/wyvern, if i remember correctly. others have done the run without glad armor as well. the energy isn't even an issue.

thus, i feel that you don't really "need" glad armor.

xcutioner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Plano/Texas/USA

NN - No Names

R/Me

You should be able to tank every single spider that spawns, while killing the 3 dryders at the front of the cave. I don't even bother pulling the dryders with a bow anymore. Called shot should be hitting for -0, 95% of the time, otherwise you need to tweak you're armor rating higher. That's the real key to this run...tweaking you're armor rating high enough to handle any number of spiders simultaneously.

Don't bug racthoh, unless it's to give him money for showing you guys this uber run. You have to learn the run, which takes a little practice, the rest is basic warrior 101.

It doesn't matter what skills you bring, so long as it works for you.

urbnatr

urbnatr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nocturnal Syndicate[sYn]

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nice im try this as well

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Concerning the armour I look at it this way. If you're telling me that you're dying and not using Gladiator's, I'm going to recommend that you get it and try it again. I'm not going to come to your aid if you're putting yourself at a disadvantage before you've even done one successful run.

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

I highly suggest anyone trying to solo FoW spiders to use Gladiator's armor. Not only does it provide 100 armor against physical attacks, but provides +7 energy (+6 if you choose to use an attribute helmet).

Also, to receive -0 damage nearly all the time from the spiders, (this is my way to buffer armor) use Dolyak Signet (+36 armor), Physical Resistance (+40 armor), and "Watch Yourself!" (+20 armor).

The Higher Power

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Auckland, New Zealand

Honor Of Queens And Kings [hoqk]

W/Mo

Hi there,

So far I have glads armour, the helm with +1 tactics and reduces damage from attacks. I just got a sup vigor from rune farming so i can add that to my armour aswell. I don't have enough for a sup absorb so would a major be okay?

Also I don't have any form of zealous weapon, are they really essential?

I don't wanna go in until i am really fully prepared.

Based on experiences, do you believe axe or sword is best for this?

knoll

knoll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Washington State.

[ToA]

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Zealous and Sword is good and you need it if you are going to use racthoh build b/c you use flurry and 100 blades to keep the flurry up constantly and i do mine wiht a major abso and i do just find.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

I can't speak on behalf of the inferior axe wielders , but like most builds everyone seems to like the axe. Zealous is essential if you plan on using Flurry, or you'll have to be w/mo and use Balthazar's Spirit in order to maintain a constant Flurry.

Major should be okay since you'll have a lot of defense.

The Higher Power

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Auckland, New Zealand

Honor Of Queens And Kings [hoqk]

W/Mo

Thank you very much, looks like i will have to try to get a zealous weapon

Looking forward to giving it a go when I get the right gear, thanks again for this great build Racthoh.

LiQuId StEeL

LiQuId StEeL

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

/u/liquidsteel30

Ego Trip From Rank [ZERO]

W/Mo

I use major vigor and absorb (lost too many sups to salvages ><), and it works fine. Healing Hands also helps a lot in the survivability.

SirShadowrunner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

at the beach

Gamerzunlimited (GU)

R/

Spiders everywhere, and then there none, I cleared the cave, yessss, thanks to
Racthoh on his guide and video, I still need alot of practice on this one, but I now know where to run to and keep running to if need be. The degen from poison is tough,
I keep dieing when 5 or more spiders were attacking me, so I had to go real slow, but
the payoff was good, I got a ruby, 3 shards and 2 nice gold shadow bows, and a full
inventory, now for more practice and then the real test, soloing UW.

thx

Ruvaen

Ruvaen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

CA

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By the way, the spiders using healing spring can be stopped without interrupts or KD's. If you stand right next to them, for whatever reason, they won't use healing spring so it's quite possible to fight three spiders that are standing right next to each other. The problem sometimes is that the spider that's farthest from you will still try to use it so stand next to the closest two and attack the farthest one first. Makes for a lot less running around and getting the job done faster. =)

Nater

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Illusion Of Skill

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruvaen
By the way, the spiders using healing spring can be stopped without interrupts or KD's. If you stand right next to them, for whatever reason, they won't use healing spring so it's quite possible to fight three spiders that are standing right next to each other. The problem sometimes is that the spider that's farthest from you will still try to use it so stand next to the closest two and attack the farthest one first. Makes for a lot less running around and getting the job done faster. =) So I'm not crazy...I can't belive they(Anet) made this easier. When this thread started, you had to alternate your whacking to interrupt all the healing springs.

Looks like it won't "nerfed" after all?

Dav85

Dav85

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

first run: killed everyone, nothing, only corrosive legs. there was a chest in the cave, i opened it... 15>50 req9 chaos axe.

i was shocked

lauratos landof

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Germany FTW

[olo]

Ooooh, lucker!

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruvaen
By the way, the spiders using healing spring can be stopped without interrupts or KD's. If you stand right next to them, for whatever reason, they won't use healing spring so it's quite possible to fight three spiders that are standing right next to each other. The problem sometimes is that the spider that's farthest from you will still try to use it so stand next to the closest two and attack the farthest one first. Makes for a lot less running around and getting the job done faster. =) I always enjoyed having people ask "how did you do that" whenever I'd change targets to interrupt a spring. Now the run can be done faster since I can bunch them up and Hundred Blades for a bunch of adrenaline.

Duriel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Racthoh, Thanks alot man, Ive done the UW one as well but my best was 3 Aataxes in one run xD. Still was very fun to try!

For the axes wielders out there, this is what I use:
Major Vigor, Major absorpt, Wyvern armor, knights boots.

Cleave
Penetrating Blow
Cyclone Axe
Physical Resistance
Watch Yourself
Sprint
Healing Signet
Dolyak Signet

I pull the 2 dryders first, kill them, then rush in for the Last one and kill him there... The spiders start to spawn and i Make my way to the Dryder inside the cave... After you kill him, go in a bunch of spiders... The thing is: If you hit them with a Cyclone axe, they will not use healing spring anymore.

So if yoou are fighting a group of 3, but there is one behind that you can't hit with your cyclone, that one will use healing Spring to heal the ones you are hiting... So i Reposition myself alot to make sure the spider i am focusing on doesnt get healed, and try to hit as many at once as I can, so one cyclone axe charges penetrating blow and cleave straight away =).

Valdis

Valdis

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wichita, KS

We Dupe Sojs {DUPE}

W/Me

I have been doing the spider run for a couple of days now, but today when i tried it....... BAD BAD BAD..... the patrol of shadow beasts that come back when your fighting the stick guys, now comes much futher in twards the beach. I tried it 3 times and could not find a safe place between the patrol and ancient skales. Im wanting to know if anyone else has encountered this same issue.

Ruvaen

Ruvaen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

CA

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Sometimes the first group of scales are way too close to be able to safely engage the dryder/driftwoods so if you see that kind of a spawn, just run past them. It's better to leave a mob untouched than to get sammiched by the shadow warriors and skales. Besides, usually after you run past the scales, you can use your bow to aggro the dryder/driftwoods. =)

Ezekial

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Shadow Knights

W/Mo

I Did it!!

I'm not gonna lie, it was really damn hard.

Start



Outside wasn't that tough even though I did have a couple close calls when it came to more then 3 attacking me.

I found the hardest part was the run to the cave.

Problems:

#1 - The scale placement can get really annoying to find safe location to pull your guys.

#2 - Sometime your armoured spiders like to stick together, on top, or really close to eachother making it impossable to hurt them more then there partner heals them.

#3 - The tediousness of pulling them makes you want to quite if your not getting great drops.



Well I have a full inventory of random shadow crap, all I got was some garbage purple hammer, and 3 shards, and about 1k in Gold.

This took me close to 2 hours, made me kinda feel like it was not worth the time spent, but maybe I just had a really bad run, or the drops have been nurfed already I do not know.

Anyway I used no superior rune and only Major Vigor and Major Absorb.

In the end im happy to say I acomplished farming these jerks myself and completed the entire cave without dieing

xxreaper008

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

You were taking alot of dmg there. Make a mesmer as your secondary.
I use these skills:

Dolyak Sig-38 armor
Phisical Resistance-40 armor
Healing Sig- 130 health
HUndred Blades-Mjor energy boost
Flurry-Energy and adrenalin boost
Sever Arterly-Bleed
Final thrust for teh win!
Sprint


I never died once on this build.

Queto

Queto

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Belgium

Dynasty Warriors [DW]

A/W

Flurry would cancel Physical Resistance...

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

very true , u can do the run without doylak sigit btw , pshycal resitance and watchyourself if more than enough defence.

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

I was a bit skeptical at first...after my fist initial try went Haywire. But after that it was a breeze. I think I got a bad spawn the first time...and i wasn't sure how to handle the skales. But Thank you so much for this great guide and for sharing it with us! It's put alot of life back into farming!

Nero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Sunset Riders [Ride]

Mo/

i tried this, i make it to the first group of the 3 spiritwood things or whatever, i slaughter them.

but then the shadow guys aggro to me before the first dryder, i run to escape them but get boxed in my like 6 skale sitting right back where the spiritwood guys were, and i try and run past them and end up hitting the other groups of skales and i get horribly destroyed.


the same exact thing has happened to me 4 times in a row now.