CONFIRMED: Icy Dragon Sword

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

I do prefer using Victory is Mine! as the elite. With that, I hardly ever have to use Healing Signet. Not even while fighting trolls while I have Elemental Resistance up. I only need it when the monotony gets to me and I forget refreshing a defense for a few seconds and start taking real damage. The advantage is, you can heal while fighting and don't lose 40 armor for 2 seconds every few seconds.

pbspectre

pbspectre

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Oral's Chosen

W/Mo

nice build...anyone know of a decent w/mo build for this?...

mohh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Just watched the video a few times, boy you make getting there look easy. Can the hex helm be crafted or is it a collector thing only?

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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First I want to say thanks to the posters of this...great idea. (Hell might be a better word)

10 strait solo runs as of this post, no deaths, no sword...

Did some tweaking of the build kind and found this very successful, slower perhaps but I pretty much never die...ele boss spawn, following wises or ardants, shadows, bad spawns...it's all laughably easy. One one real problem; when the last group of Avacari are mixed in with the first group of Imps...only successfully done it once. Just run though all of it with charge and Ele Resist until the Avacari close in on you for the physical attack, hit sprint then try to wait the hexes out with a Lieutenants Helm, don't heal sig just keep moving. Anyway my stat spred.

War/Me

Insp: 5
St: 12(7 with Lieutant's Helm)
Axe: 11
Tac: 12
3 points wasted

Skills:

Sprint
Charge
Des Blow
Exe Strike
Watch Yourself
Ele Resis
Dolyak Sig
Heal Sig

Gear:

Exe Helm Sup Axe Master (for attacking)
Lieutant's Helm (no sup runes on then for running)

Glad's Chest(for mana)
Glad's Legs(for mana)

Ascalon Boots(for absorption)
Ascalon Gloves(If you don't care for matching go platemail for more def)

Weapon:

Max Axe with +7 ele defence and double adrenal on hit(don't need zealious)
Crimson Carapace


I'd just show photos of all this crap if I had any room left to upload photos .



Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
Avicara you can run by (and you just GOTTA show me a video of your build that can survive Iron Mist, Phantom Pain, Ineptitude, and Fragility on you ALL AT ONCE when you run into Thunderwing's bunch, and still kill them all whilst getting pounded with Lightning Orb, Deadly Swarm, and sword and bow attacks. I need to see it!!!). Giants are a joke, I took the "scenic route" once and ran into 8 of them and killed them all without a pause (with Dolyak and WY up, Giant Stomp does 25 damage, their rocks only do 0-1 damage each. Can't imagine how that killed you). Trolls, you just bleed them from the onset and keep them bleeding and hope DB lands a deep wound. Heal only when taking that chance means life or death.
I've done it multiple times...Charge into him with Ele resistance on...Deadly Swarm does 4 damage lmao...lightening does somehting like 130 dmg I think, the Lieutenants Helm takes care of the rest(NO SUP RUNES ON)...when the rest catch up from the slow down hit sprint to cancel the Ele Resis as you don't need it any longer and physical is your problem then just keep trying to run away...dont' stop to heal yourself just keep going and pray...every time I have made it I've had like 10 to 30 life, I have screens to prove it if you need.

Trolls are cake...just make sure to use heal sig RIGHT after they savage and you're good to go. I've killed two trolls while being attacked by that damn octapuse thing, 7ish imps and 4 shadows...just spam heal sig constantly, spam defenses constantly be on the look out for savage slases and use a weapon skill to cancel out your heal/defensive skills so it's canceled instead...you know doble click. I think I had the blessing on at the time...don't know if I could do two trolls without it. I have done all that with one troll without the blessing and I had dead people in game if you need proof.


K jacked some space from my gf...

Route:

Part A. http://static.flickr.com/42/78149137_c397c7ada2_o.jpg

Part B. http://static.flickr.com/39/78149138_1445c08193_o.jpg

note: take the bottom route...it's easier

here's me living through that ele boss and with a previous, inferior build...

http://static.flickr.com/39/78150136_0a6d9aa6d2_o.jpg

with the build posted here I usualy have 30ish+ life...just keep on running.

here's me actually farming...

http://static.flickr.com/6/78150137_12b320eca0_o.jpg

note: the dead guys is good but having some lag issues

Quote:
Originally Posted by mohh
Just watched the video a few times, boy you make getting there look easy. Can the hex helm be crafted or is it a collector thing only?
Henge of Devrai

Lieutenant's Helm

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
I assume the sword Galie was refering too was the candy cane sword, not the IDS.
lol y .. i forgot those items

N8DOGG

N8DOGG

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

here

Modified Soul Society [SOUL]

W/Mo

Nice Job

I also can solo with a War/Me But I use an axe and I don't bring charge. I can make it to the cave just as fast as you did with charge and sprint. I then have an elite attack skill for the imps. It takes about 4 hits with my axe skills per imp so the bleeding helps but isn't necessary. Also there was on part where you followed the road and you could have just cut through the trees and avoided one of the groups. I enjoyed your video very much good work.

also are you the guy in the Leroy Video? Sounds just like you LEEEEEEEROOOOOOY!!!!!

N8

yangster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Asian Syndicate

Me/E

My guildmate and I finally got one today. He got the first 2 and I got the 3rd, that bastard. Anyways, I'm keeping this one and if I get another one, I'll just sell it for whatever that person is willing to pay for it.

xxreaper008

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by yangster
My guildmate and I finally got one today. He got the first 2 and I got the 3rd, that bastard. Anyways, I'm keeping this one and if I get another one, I'll just sell it for whatever that person is willing to pay for it.


the only way il sell an ids is if i have one for my slef. Will you do moredmg if u add a fierysword hilt?


Quote:
Originally Posted by noblepaladin
I'm not trying to single you out, but I got something to say about the pricing of the IDS. I hope you end up getting one for yourself .

I have been selling my IDS swords for 60k each, and they usually sell in less than 2 minutes. Most of my customers seem very satisfied and one of them even said he will keep buying them from me at 60k a piece if I get more. I can get 75k for them if I have the patience to go around all the towns spamming, which I have done once, but I'd rather continue playing. The sword itself isn't spectacular. It's essentially the same as the Droknar Weapon guy's sword with an Icy hilt which cannot be removed. However, almost everybody wants it for the coolness factor (ecto should be worth 100g each, their merchant value, since Fissure armor does not improve your fighting ability in any way, but that's never going to happen), which is why Granite Citadel is full of people spamming LFG IDS. After some people figured out a solo build (Wa/Me), ANet nerfed the drop rate so even soloist have to do something like 5 runs to get one of them (according to many reports on the forums and my personal experience). For people who cannot solo, they must join 5-6 man farm groups, and at the rate of one sword for the party every 4-5 runs, it takes about 20 runs for someone to get one (and it takes a very long time each run). It's much more economical to pay prices as high as 80k than to spend two days doing IDS runs, because 80k can be made RELATIVELY quickly with some of the known farming builds posted around the forums. For example, it's possible to do 4 Mountain Troll runs faster than an IDS run (it takes me about 5-7 minutes for a troll run). Even if I make a extremely modest estimation of 1k per run (you probably make 2k-3k just in gold drops and selling items to merchant), that is 80k gold already, not counting the chance of getting some really good rare item.

Simply ignoring what the IDS does for a moment: Many people are willing to do IDS runs all day to get one. Just that fact alone makes the item very valuable, because they can save hours of time if they buy it. You can think these people are crazy, and maybe they are, but that is the reason why the IDS is worth so much (the same is true for Ecto and Shards, Fissure armor is more worthless than the IDS, which at least has the perfect 15>50 mod, but it's worth well over a million gold).


Nicely put, could have said it better myself

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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Quote:
Originally Posted by xxreaper008
Will you do moredmg if u add a fierysword hilt?
Hilt is static.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic Smile
I've done it multiple times...Charge into him with Ele resistance on...Deadly Swarm does 4 damage lmao...lightening does somehting like 130 dmg I think, the Lieutenants Helm takes care of the rest(NO SUP RUNES ON)...when the rest catch up from the slow down hit sprint to cancel the Ele Resis as you don't need it any longer and physical is your problem then just keep trying to run away...dont' stop to heal yourself just keep going and pray...every time I have made it I've had like 10 to 30 life, I have screens to prove it if you need.
Oh no you said you could KILL everything, that's what I wanted to see. If you could solo kill that group, hell I'd give you one of my swords just for proving it. I get by him almost all the time now too, 2 HP was my lowest to escape with. Ugh. 575 health to 2 in less than 15 seconds.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by N8DOGG
Nice Job

I also can solo with a War/Me But I use an axe and I don't bring charge. I can make it to the cave just as fast as you did with charge and sprint.
That's BS, unless you have a 20-second Sprint that we don't know about. With Charge and Sprint, I'm moving at 125% speed 100% of the time. Sprint at max lasts for 14 seconds, 13 without a major / superior rune, so you're moving 125% speed 70% of the time tops, and likely 65% unless you're risking the health loss of a non-minor rune. When you can prove that one takes no more time than the other, the world has a Noble Prize in Mathematics waiting for you.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
Oh no you said you could KILL everything, that's what I wanted to see. If you could solo kill that group, hell I'd give you one of my swords just for proving it. I get by him almost all the time now too, 2 HP was my lowest to escape with. Ugh. 575 health to 2 in less than 15 seconds.
yea if i'm unlucky enough to lag there and get cliped some by the war or mezs running at me it can get downright nasty....but I GOT A SWORD...YAY on my 11th run. And Kill them...er...um...no.

Riceboi

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic Smile
Hilt is static.
I think he's asking if a fiery sword hilt would do more damage to the ice imps?
I think it would, but I've never tried it so I'm not sure how much more.

Hodor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Federated Communist Uber Korps

I use 16 sword with Hundred+Galrath+Final. 11 strength and 9 tactics. As long as you position your self to get maximum effect from Hundred, this mows down Imps very quickly. Usually the last few Imps only need a casually swipe and they are dead I can kill the Ice Beast without interupts. I swap my hat for max health on the run though.
I've found what I lose on the run with only one 12 sec sprint gets made up easily kill the Imps quickly.

Valdis

Valdis

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wichita, KS

We Dupe Sojs {DUPE}

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxreaper008
Nicely put, could have said it better myself
Did you mean could or couldn't? lol

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

well tks for the few tips around here, i managed to get a 2nd sword today

aw, looks so good

badd

badd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Philly

W/Mo

well, anyone got any pointers for killing azure shadows so i can get those imps back there :/

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

snowballs and snowcones my friend!

Either that or a MM or SS or a echo nuking ele to blow those shadown to pieces!

badd

badd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Philly

W/Mo

...... i solo

Hodor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Federated Communist Uber Korps

Quote:
Originally Posted by badd
well, anyone got any pointers for killing azure shadows so i can get those imps back there :/
Get +3 regen by kneeling for Lyssa, then try to pick them off 1-2 at a time. Move forward slowly, stopping often, when one pops up just wait for it to come to you. Heal often

Samueldg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Colorado

N/Mo

I just did my 70th IDS run... 21 solo...

I started the first day this post came up...


I used my monk healing then smiting then prot...

then went to my ranger and used barrage in a few groups..

I SAW well over 40 drop while in groups none for me ( I was mostly monking and playing my ranger)

I then finally gave up on groups and went and changed my wars secondary and started solo runs... I had no trouble getting there and killing all the imps I just didnt get jack for a IDS...

( I did clean house on CC shards..)

Im giving up... I may break down and buy one and farm the plat back with my monkey ..........

good thing they nerfed the droprate seeing all those drop in the first few days had me excited... u know the law of averages and all seeing 5 drop in one run.... then I get some time during christmas and christmas eve to do a few runs .. see some more drop...

then 15 solo runs .... not a dang thing but CC shards......

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Samueldg
good thing they nerfed the droprate seeing all those drop in the first few days had me excited... u know the law of averages and all seeing 5 drop in one run.... then I get some time during christmas and christmas eve to do a few runs .. see some more drop...

then 15 solo runs .... not a dang thing but CC shards......
The drop rate is adjusted by how many people visit the area. More visits = lowered drops for everyone. This is not just drops for you. The drops are lowered across the board.

I farmed ettins for 3 months and always found at least 1 gold armor every run. Once people caught on to and more farmed there the drops lowered.

If you know a secret farming spots its best just to keep your mouth shut. Either the drops will be lowered or your build will be nerfed.

Narutoscryed

Narutoscryed

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

In the woods

Elite Crew

W/E

this is my list of WILL and WILL NOT for ids farming:

when you have the option of taking to high short road or the long low road.. it really doesent matter.. because if you take the high road you WILL die on one of two bridges. because frost doesent work on avacara. and you WILL die if you try to hang around and interupt the iron mist spell from the bosses.. if you take the low road. you will die under a pile of boulders cause even with whirling deffense on you will still get hit by giant stomp you WILL be knocked down, your whirling deffense WILL end and you WILL DIE.. lets say you make it to the cave... hell even i did a few times... if the ice imps are outside the cave they WILL be accompanied by mountain trolls and ice golems and avacara( i have the screens to prove it..they were all there at once) and if you try to do like your told and poision the trolls first and run away then repeat untill they are dead.. well you WILL NOT live very long.. cause they do not aggro alone.. about 6 imps come with them and ice golems..( i have the pics to prove this aswell).. and what happens when you shoot then run when you have aggrod a group of imps because you shot at a troll that was like 30 feet away from them..thats right they use their spell and slow your ass down to a snails pace. you WILL NOT get away. and now you WILL NOT survive 1 troll 1 ice golem beating on you and 5 ice imps wanding you.. So lets say you get to the cave and ice imps are inside... yay this is the magic spawn.. cause you get to kill like 5 ice imps..but you WILL NOT kill the massive group mixed in with trolls and ice golems a little deeper in the cave..
and after all is said and done.. you WILL NOT be happy.. you WILL feel like snapping the neck of whoever put this crazy idea in your head.. and you WILL feel like shit cause everyone and there mom can solo this and you cant... some may ask why post this thread, its so negative.. well i heard so many amazing stories about success in ids hunting. I wanted to get one too.. not just for the sword.. but it feels good to be able to beat somthing on your own.. i memorized the route.. followed the recomendid skill and attribute settings to the T...bought the fur armor for the added deffense.. Switched classes from a ele to a mes just for this ... Everything was perfect to the T...and i failed. so i just wanted to give others a little contrast and realism. to decide if it really is worth the 28 fur squares and over 250 tanned hides.and the lost ours trying just to fail.... and if me failing and crying like a little bitch on these forums makes me a shitty gammer then so be it.. but i had to say something.. let the flames begin

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodor
Get +3 regen by kneeling for Lyssa, then try to pick them off 1-2 at a time. Move forward slowly, stopping often, when one pops up just wait for it to come to you. Heal often

You can do it without the mending with the build I was using...just focus on your def, keep all the prot spells up and heal every round...if you've been trying any of these builds you'll know what I mean, you start to get into a repetitive combination...i full set = round. And if your healing can't keep up with the damage...stop attacking for a few rounds...usually about two or three. I've killed 7 shadow with 10ish imps and the damn Ice Beast on me...btw I can't kill that ice beast, though maybe if I used disrupting chop instead.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Riceboi
I think he's asking if a fiery sword hilt would do more damage to the ice imps?
I think it would, but I've never tried it so I'm not sure how much more.
ah mybad...yea i've seen guys using them

eom

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/N

WTS fur and tanned hide

Valerius

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

R/

dude... u have a couple bad spawns and are calling it quits? w/e... ur loss

Narutoscryed

Narutoscryed

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

In the woods

Elite Crew

W/E

not a couple..i have never given up that easily..i would say more along the lines of 20 spawns and growing.. and i only made it to the ice caves two or three times... did i ever say i was done in my original post..i just dont think its worth it anymore.. i never said i was giving up

Nisha

Nisha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/W

What would be cool now would be if we got to dual wield. Fiery dragon sword in one hand, Icy dragon sword in the other...it would look really pretty!

Theos

Theos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

River Dancing

Eternal Treachery [TimE]

Me/E

One thing I don't understand is why the IDS would be limited to a winterperiod when the FDS is not limited at all. Shouldn't the FDS be limited to the summer then? Some how without the full statement from Gaile about what sword she was talking about I have a hard time seeing them removed/discontinue the IDS after christmass.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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Just a little off topic but this build is sweet for almost any ele based monster...for example:

http://static.flickr.com/39/78345894_e8a03d903c_o.jpg

meerkats

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

lol, sorry about that - miss post!

Transluecent51

Transluecent51

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Guilds Are For Woosies Who Need Help

Ive cleared the Ice Cave and the spot by the seer 5 times and have yet to see one drop.

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

I did about 15 runs before one dropped for me. The last few runs not one dropped

Reks

Reks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/P

More Gaile Gray comments!



Very interesting...

Edit: more comments and other stuff



More character slots ftw.

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

how do u get the perfect mods...

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Narutoscryed
the blues
The very definition of "mob" implies a group that works together, so you shouldn't be surprised that attacking one monster causes several to come after you. Every troll is part of a larger group. And um, the Ice golems are level 10. You can laugh off the "damage" they do to you. I leave them for last and then go to the bathroom or eat while they attack, just so my adrenaline stays up for the next group.

You speak from a Ranger's perspective, when this run is geared primarily towards Warriors. It had been done by Rangers, and even by Monks, but no other class is going to solo this run as quickly and easily as a Warrior. That's just the truth, and nothing can change it.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

To give a heads up about IDS drop rates...

~1 hour ago I did a solo monk run (just one) and got 3 drops.

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

Solo w/ warrior.
Nothing again. Irritating as heck.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

Take a break?

Hodor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Federated Communist Uber Korps

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic Smile
You can do it without the mending with the build I was using...just focus on your def, keep all the prot spells up and heal every round...if you've been trying any of these builds you'll know what I mean, you start to get into a repetitive combination...i full set = round. And if your healing can't keep up with the damage...stop attacking for a few rounds...usually about two or three. I've killed 7 shadow with 10ish imps and the damn Ice Beast on me...btw I can't kill that ice beast, though maybe if I used disrupting chop instead.
You can survive 7 Signets Of Judgement for @ 400hp followed by Retribution etc + Imps assorted dmg + Ice Beast doing 60hp now and then? Bullshit A few Azures at a time, sure, not 7, not solo...