Characters looking different :/

Two April Mornings

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

^thanks Gaile

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

can we get anime style looking characters? please!

I hope none of my 6 characters has been changed drastically. As i recalled, last time it only affected the rangers? This time, it seem that mostly female characters are affected by this update. Anyone has male characters with messed up pixels?

chiuna

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

LOST

E/

My female ele with 15k luxon armor seems to be missing her earrings after the update. Anyone know why/how to fix it?

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

I dont see any change..

Electric Sky

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

before:


after:


i have no complains here cos i really cant see the difference in my ele's face

can you guys spot any difference ? ( yeh i know the before pics are a bit small )

Kedlai Everwinter

Kedlai Everwinter

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where Iz Teh Bonuz

W/

I know it's minor buuuut...

Before


After


Ignore the skin colour, that's just the lighting. I'm more concerned about my character's mouth going from a sneer of half-contempt to a dumb toothy grin :s (yes, both statements are a bit of an exaggeration)

As for Skullcrasher's post, I have to disagree.. when I built my character, I wanted her to look how I wanted her to look, y'know? I'm pretty sure we all know it's just a game and "just a bunch of pixels", however I can't help but get attached to the character I've been using for 14 months.

My Sweet Revenga

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kedlai Everwinter
I know it's minor buuuut...

Before


After


Ignore the skin colour, that's just the lighting. I'm more concerned about my character's mouth going from a sneer of half-contempt to a dumb toothy grin :s (yes, both statements are a bit of an exaggeration)

As for Skullcrasher's post, I have to disagree.. when I built my character, I wanted her to look how I wanted her to look, y'know? I'm pretty sure we all know it's just a game and "just a bunch of pixels", however I can't help but get attached to the character I've been using for 14 months.
Personally I think the new look looks better than the old one. Unless I stare long enough. In which case, I start noticing the baggy lines under the eyes. the toothy grin is kinda cute, but yet again, if I stare long enough, I have the urge to hand her a stick or a twig to nibble on

Chris616263

Chris616263

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Me/

....ANet has nerfed all of my character's armor. I had 3 characters with non-starter armor (15k druid, scar pattern, and Kurzick) and they've all been replaced with starter armor....

.......

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

AFTER:


I don't have a "before" pic, but her upper lip area is now a mess. In other lighting, she's also got a gray streak runing down the right side of her face. In yet another lighting situation, she's got gray triangles at the corners of her eyes & mouth.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris616263
....ANet has nerfed all of my character's armor. I had 3 characters with non-starter armor (15k druid, scar pattern, and Kurzick) and they've all been replaced with starter armor....

.......

lol, it only looks like that when the character select screen first loads

Lilanthe

Lilanthe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

The face of my elem changed a bit, for the better

I also noticed in character creation that some tyrian necromancer female had their mouth open. Gives them a strange look...

Lex

Lex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
The point is: We will make corrections to those things that are truly in error. Some changes that involve refinements of art or implementation of upcoming features will not be changed, naturally, nor should they be. And for certain, if there's a "funny looking" character, we want to make it "unfunny looking."
Thank you Gaile for answer - and I hope my mesmer's face will be "corrected". Thank you again for caring

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
AFTER:


I don't have a "before" pic, but her upper lip area is now a mess. In other lighting, she's also got a gray streak runing down the right side of her face. In yet another lighting situation, she's got gray triangles at the corners of her eyes & mouth.
Kook, I think your mesmer has the same face model as mine. Look at my previous screenshot from this thread:



Now I made deeper investigation:



First two images are taken at Shing Jea Monastery and it looks "very similar" to your picture. Areas below eyes and beside lips are totally messed up . On third image my mesmer was in my Guild Hall - all seems ok here. Last image is from my inventory screen - there is something weird with eyes/above them - some additional "dark pixels"

It seems that all these flaws are caused by inproper lightning of face model.. too deep shadows in some areas of face. And it's not visible everywhere - just in some cities/areas/outposts of the game...

Cherrie

Cherrie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Echowald

Marked by [Fury]

Me/

Thanks Gaile for bringing this to QA team attention I feel much more comfortable now... Playing a character with rotting teeth is not what I call fun =x

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade26
I had to sign into the Guild Hall!!!

id like to know more about this glitch you are having.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

My ele looked stupid before the update, and I'd hoped for a face changer at some point, but now she NEEDS one. I can't stand looking at her anymore.

Edited: pics removed due to being posted on other fourms without my permission.

If I turn her away from the lighting source, it's bearable. Unfortunately eles don't have masks, so it's not like I can put a bag over her head. Enhanced, toothy mouth gape is not attractive, and coupled with a moustache, it's downright horrifying. She's my second oldest character, and I'm not remaking her. If the moustache persists, I'll stop playing her very much at all. Someone please help her! *sobs*

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by prism2525
this is mine:


Before she had this sexy look...

now she looks dumb
I know you are right Gaile, sometimes the art needs a tweaking. But look at the post I've quoted. There is a big difference in the eyes, so much so that it changes the "character" of the character. Previous, they had the thinner more agressive eyes, now it has a more docile look.

This is more than a fresh coat of paint and art upgrade in this case. Many people spend a lot of time picking just the right look for their characters. There are other docile options on the face selection screen, and not made by choice.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
My ele looked stupid before the update, and I'd hoped for a face changer at some point, but now she NEEDS one. I can't stand looking at her anymore.

Before update:

After update:

If I turn her away from the lighting source, it's bearable. Unfortunately eles don't have masks, so it's not like I can put a bag over her head. Enhanced, toothy mouth gape is not attractive, and coupled with a moustache, it's downright horrifying. She's my second oldest character, and I'm not remaking her. If the moustache persists, I'll stop playing her very much at all. Someone please help her! *sobs*
Damn man, looks like someone punched her in the lips and turned her into a duck

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi


My monk seems to have had a lip-enhancement and clearer masscara.
aside from the point of this thread, you have a very unique looking monk

very nice


As far as that buck-toothed mesmer goes-> Makes me even more OK with the non-lip-syncing faces in the cutscenes.

And that one elementalist picture (about to spit water?) I think thats the same face I had on my ele... AND i have the whitest/palest skin tone....

If something crazy happens ill post some pics when i get home....

I see no one is posting their ritualists and assassins...

Maybe because we never see their faces anyways?

edit-> Hey Feminist Terrorist-> is your ele working on her drunk title? Im real sorry about that one... dang.


Hold on to hope ppl, dont go deleting any of you 500+hour characters yet-> Anet will fix what needs fixing... they ARE giving the game a pretty hardcore overhaul you know... just give it time

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

REALLY bad lip job. (referring to Feminine Terrorist)

And thanks Horseman of War. I'm one of the luckier folk that didn't get hit hard with the drastic plastic surgery.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

I wonder how ugly my necro looks. He was my fav char.

And my monk.

Were males really affected much?

nomercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006



That's my Necro... I like the new look
My Warrior didn't change at all.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/



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RoadKill97

RoadKill97

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Legion of Zeal [Zeal]

W/

No, not my Monk.

This is how she looked before the update and/or when looking away from the light.


And these pics show how she looks after the update and when looking into the light.


Some might say it's not a big deal, but I find those ugly dark spots greatly disturping. They must go away, please.

ducktape

ducktape

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
My ele looked stupid before the update, and I'd hoped for a face changer at some point, but now she NEEDS one. I can't stand looking at her anymore.

Before update:

After update:

If I turn her away from the lighting source, it's bearable. Unfortunately eles don't have masks, so it's not like I can put a bag over her head. Enhanced, toothy mouth gape is not attractive, and coupled with a moustache, it's downright horrifying. She's my second oldest character, and I'm not remaking her. If the moustache persists, I'll stop playing her very much at all. Someone please help her! *sobs*
Oh my god, your poor, poor ele. I hope they fix you up really soon! Same goes to everyone else who had their characters get changed

aspectacle

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mesmer before and after:



Ele after (no before sorry!);



(the lighting isn't quite as effective here at showing it but my pale ele looks rather tired now as the eyes seem to be a different colour from the skin. )

Katina

Katina

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Center of Attention

Dangerous And Moving [DM]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
Holy hell Id be pissed off if I was you.

I logged on and noticed slight changes in Ms. Katina

Before:



After:





Nothing to go on a rampage about.

Cherrie

Cherrie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Echowald

Marked by [Fury]

Me/

Horseman Of War, I have an open-mouthed Rit too. I don't play her much but my feeling is her mouth changed too, not in such a drastic way as my mes' or Female Terrorist's ele's. I don't have a 'before' pic tho so I can't compare them.

Lynxius

Lynxius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Ok everyone.

I will present to you my lovelly asian faced, tyrian born monk ( one of my favorite characters )
Keep in mind that the before pictures were taken in dark places without much light.


Before:

_______________________________________________

After:


I think I noted some differences mainly on the eye shadow, and some parts near her lips, maybe her eyes too.
I took screenshots of her face from diferent angles, I tought it might help.

Just wanted to say that I like how she is like now.

Feedback from other users here is greatly apreciated, I wish to know what you think about my character, and if the changes were for better or for worse, you have my thanks in advance.

Would rather you kept her how she is at the moment.
Thank you A-Net.

-Lynxius

PS- Gaile Gray, I hope you may find my contribution usefull.

ojo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

i like the way your monk looks after the update.
i already got used to the new look of my monk after some time

Lynxius

Lynxius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ojo
i like the way your monk looks after the update.
i already got used to the new look of my monk after some time
Thank you I like her after the changes too !!

You wouldnt imagine how much time I used choosing her height, skin, hair and face.
That was 14 months ago and im still happy with her and not bored of her looks,even if she changed a bit

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by aspectacle
Mesmer before and after:


dont do drugs.


and I was trying to figure out if my ele would be changed... I have the same pale skin, and thats definately the same face this time... luckily it doesnt look too horrible- no curdled milk mustache...

Jodie O

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
My ele looked stupid before the update, and I'd hoped for a face changer at some point, but now she NEEDS one. I can't stand looking at her anymore.

Before update:

After update:

If I turn her away from the lighting source, it's bearable. Unfortunately eles don't have masks, so it's not like I can put a bag over her head. Enhanced, toothy mouth gape is not attractive, and coupled with a moustache, it's downright horrifying. She's my second oldest character, and I'm not remaking her. If the moustache persists, I'll stop playing her very much at all. Someone please help her! *sobs*
Oh my! I really laughed at this one.

Rosemary

Rosemary

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
Before update:

After update:


Don't mean to be mean but so far that's the funniest one I've seen. I had a good laugh but hopefully Anet fixes all these glitches soon.

Dr Ripley

Dr Ripley

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Seattle

Force of Arms [FoA]

They should compensate Feminist Terrorist for emotional distress after that catastrophe. Seriously. Throw some free ectos her way or something. Poor girl looks like she ran into a wall without looking...

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

I waited to reply on this topic until I logged in to have a look for myself. I am not happy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
No, it's not just pixels, these are your characters and we understand that there is an emotional connection between players and their characters. Heck I feel a very positive connection with my characters, for sure! (That doesn't mean I swan around in leather armour, mind you. )
Yes exactly.. except that...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Now, a lot of the comments we've seen are subjective: What someone thinks it better someone else thinks is not. I noted what I thought were improvements to the Monk face that one user said wasn't to his liking. Please keep in mind that we need to upgrade over time, and that changes will come to which we should be willing to adjust.

The point is: We will make corrections to those things that are truly in error. Some changes that involve refinements of art or implementation of upcoming features will not be changed, naturally, nor should they be. And for certain, if there's a "funny looking" character, we want to make it "unfunny looking." That's why the QA team and I are both looking at this thread, and others like it. Your comments and examples will allow us to fix those things that truly need fixing, and allow me to get back to you with an update on the situation so that, hopefully, everyone understands and gets on board with the changes (the ones that, obviously, don't need fixing, of course! )
... one cannot reconcile what you said in the first paragraph with your next two.

I have said for a long time that many faces offered in Prophecies, and even many in Factions, indeed look pretty poor, limiting available character creation options. Itd be nice to see some additional ones added. Itd also be nice to have a few great looking ones in addition to the several with truly odd facial expressions (to my own eye anyway).

This doesnt mean going in and re-designing the faces we have chosen carefully for characters we have spent hundreds, some thousands, of hours on. We chose them for a reason. Subjective yes, but we liked them, and grew to like them. Some may like one face or another better, but changing an original face to something else, even if you think those changes minor, changes the original character choice. Anet cant do that without giving us then the ability to make a new face choice.

Better yet, change them back. There is no way I am creating characters over from scratch and a couple of the faces I truly liked have changed into something I do not at all.

Anet has to reconsider this. Add more facial options for new character creation. Great. I might make a new one. Add the ability perhaps to make a one-time change of facial choice if you are intent on changing them however. Changing existing faces please no one and is more disastrous than the grumbling about the interface changes. We all chose faces we liked when we looked at them for the first time. Now the majority of mine I like less - granted a couple better - but that is not the point.

Truly perplexed at this "logical" business choice. What is not good for the existing players with existing chracters is not a good business choice.

Ron vo

Ron vo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

arizona

Insert Witty Guild Name

A/Me

...
HAHAHHAHAHAAHA o man...thats just wrong...itll fix itself hopefully lmao

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

TW (ele) got the makeup treatment, which looks wierd on her freakishly pale skin.

Anna (mesmer) seems to have a wierd line on one side of her mouth, and her face seems... taller somehow.

Hinata (ranger) and Kurenai (necro) appear to be unchanged...

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
My ele looked stupid before the update, and I'd hoped for a face changer at some point, but now she NEEDS one. I can't stand looking at her anymore.

Before update:

After update:

If I turn her away from the lighting source, it's bearable. Unfortunately eles don't have masks, so it's not like I can put a bag over her head. Enhanced, toothy mouth gape is not attractive, and coupled with a moustache, it's downright horrifying. She's my second oldest character, and I'm not remaking her. If the moustache persists, I'll stop playing her very much at all. Someone please help her! *sobs*
I'm sorry you have to deal with that. What I'd reccommend is a serious law-suit against the plastic surgeon who took a perfectly lovely face and screwed it all up. (No need for all the extra collogen in those lips), then, I'd petition the AMA to get the quack's medical license revoked! The before pic looks SOOOOO much better!

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Thankfully I have several other characters, and all were either improved slightly or there was no noticeable change. Well, except for my ranger. Poor girl looks like she got into big sisters blush and lipstick. At least her I can put a mask on.

My ele though. So many jokes, it must be even worse than I thought. I don't know if Feminist Terrorist can ever show her face in public again.


Quack? Oh, Kook, that's just not nice. lmao

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by broodijzer
before:

after:


scary..
looks like your monk lost its baby fats. but your monk before is cuter than now.