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Kendar Muert

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Texas

E/

12 Dec 2006 at 23:13 - 481

Quote:

Originally Posted by amish lifeguard

How many times do we have to say this? You can NOT have 2 people Dlvl. The whole party must die before you rez!

As to the charr, I believe that they will not nerf it as well. They took it away for a period of time but later reinstalled it. I believe that if they did this, they will not take it away again. But Xena wants to play it safe and out of goodwill, I will respect his opinion until he gives the go.

I meant with his pet, not him specifically, since hes going for the same thing.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

12 Dec 2006 at 23:33 - 482

by just playing through the game

and kender I already said that once your pet dies and u res it, the enemies won't get anymore exp off of it when they kill it a 2nd time.

jryan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/R

12 Dec 2006 at 23:36 - 483

Quote:

Originally Posted by amish lifeguard

And how will you get LS?

maybe they mean they kinda switching characters role...role ldoa and one LS going to post. If i delete a character i sometimes reuse name if its same profession.

God apprentice,
what i consider "old schoolers" are those who were like lvl 16-20 before they killed death lvling. You may think there were only like 20 peeps who wanted lvl 20 before they killed death lvling first time but really there were alot more. God antipowers and merciless evilphyre(dont know the other couple) didnt just hide in corner in town so no one but u and 20 others got the idea of lvl 20 in pre. You keep forgetting that the time investment into this title is huge and most will be discouraged by it hence any lvl 18-20 can feel big for a while yet

What will make this title a touch more unique is doing it with a touch harder profession like mesmer or ranger. But i do agree that the title kinda dampens its prestige and thats why i say Incorigle Ale Hound> LDoA
At 50g a piece even this puts its cost at 500k in pre and 166 2/3 hours being drunk

I know some one else who is working on a different title for pre besides those two that makes them look silly

JRyan

Kendar Muert

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Texas

E/

12 Dec 2006 at 23:39 - 484

Quote:

Originally Posted by Covah

by just playing through the game

and kender I already said that once your pet dies and u res it, the enemies won't get anymore exp off of it when they kill it a 2nd time.

They do. I checked.

amish lifeguard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

It's Not Pediofilia If The Kids [dead]

13 Dec 2006 at 00:35 - 485

Really? I have tried myself and it did not work.

Jryan, a title more prestigious in Pre than Ale Hound and Lvl 20? The only one that comes to mind is Wisdom. But the only way to get that is to either find a bug that gets you gold items or buy them for oodles.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

13 Dec 2006 at 01:07 - 486

WTB gold unid's 40k each.

Leorin Magnifico

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

[NOIR]

N/

13 Dec 2006 at 04:29 - 487

He he he, sry Covah, most of which I know of are already ID'd

But the only titles that are currently possible to reach are LDoA and Drunkard(2)
Cant be botherd to write the real title name...

God Apprentice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

13 Dec 2006 at 10:11 - 488

Quote:

Originally Posted by jryan

maybe they mean they kinda switching characters role...role ldoa and one LS going to post. If i delete a character i sometimes reuse name if its same profession.

God apprentice,
what i consider "old schoolers" are those who were like lvl 16-20 before they killed death lvling. You may think there were only like 20 peeps who wanted lvl 20 before they killed death lvling first time but really there were alot more. God antipowers and merciless evilphyre(dont know the other couple) didnt just hide in corner in town so no one but u and 20 others got the idea of lvl 20 in pre. You keep forgetting that the time investment into this title is huge and most will be discouraged by it hence any lvl 18-20 can feel big for a while yet

What will make this title a touch more unique is doing it with a touch harder profession like mesmer or ranger. But i do agree that the title kinda dampens its prestige and thats why i say Incorigle Ale Hound> LDoA
At 50g a piece even this puts its cost at 500k in pre and 166 2/3 hours being drunk

I know some one else who is working on a different title for pre besides those two that makes them look silly

JRyan

Yeah I know there were more than 20 people back then. I was 16 before it was nerfed anyways, Ive had the char for 14 months anyways, when Anti was still at 17, so I didn't magically get the idea from anyone, I met Anti that's why.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leorin Magnifico

He he he, sry Covah, most of which I know of are already ID'd

But the only titles that are currently possible to reach are LDoA and Drunkard(2)
Cant be botherd to write the real title name...

There is another title, hun

amish lifeguard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

It's Not Pediofilia If The Kids [dead]

13 Dec 2006 at 12:51 - 489

Character based or Account?

Max out Champion, Gladiator, Lucky/Unlucky, Kurz, Lux faction titles and get KoaBD?

Clerihew

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

At the bar

Dragons of Ice and Flame [Ice]

Mo/

13 Dec 2006 at 14:39 - 490

I started working on this title a while back with a character on my japanese account. It can be pretty tough to find people to open the gate! I sometimes hang around in the international district so anyone around international who wants someone to open the gate can pm me and I'll help you out...

My pre-sear character for that account is Melina Shardstorm

(^ - ^)

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

13 Dec 2006 at 15:10 - 491

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kendar Muert

They do. I checked.

Even if the foes would gain XP from killing your pet repeatedly, death-levelling with a pet would be VERY difficult, or impossible. The key question is: How do you stop your pet from fighting back and killing the foe before the foe kills the pet?

Kendar Muert

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Texas

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13 Dec 2006 at 15:50 - 492

i had to run around till it killed my pet. make the pet kill different stuff. More trouble than its worth, but ive wanted a LS for awhile, and also wanted a lvl 20 in pre for awhile. Figure might as well put em on the same char.

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

13 Dec 2006 at 16:28 - 493

You'll constantly have to babysit your pet and distract it to make sure that it doesn't accidently kill the foe it's supposed to death-level. That means you can't go afk, not even for a few minutes between rezzing your pet. And you can't speed up the process with Fenzy/sacrifice either. That means you'll have to sit in front of your PC for more than 2000 hours, doing nothing but watching your pet getting killed by a Strider or Moss Spider. That sounds like fun. Yawn.

Leorin Magnifico

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

[NOIR]

N/

13 Dec 2006 at 16:59 - 494

Quote:

Originally Posted by God Apprentice

There is another title, hun

Come again? 0o?

Kendar Muert

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Texas

E/

13 Dec 2006 at 17:31 - 495

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetris L

You'll constantly have to babysit your pet and distract it to make sure that it doesn't accidently kill the foe it's supposed to death-level. That means you can't go afk, not even for a few minutes between rezzing your pet. And you can't speed up the process with Fenzy/sacrifice either. That means you'll have to sit in front of your PC for more than 2000 hours, doing nothing but watching your pet getting killed by a Strider or Moss Spider. That sounds like fun. Yawn.

Yaa.. I may or may not finish. But if i cant, then LDoA will be an easy next step. Im going to at least get the first rank.

Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Adelaide, Australia

Holy Champions of Justice

N/Mo

13 Dec 2006 at 21:54 - 496

I think this is what you can get in pre

Drinking Titles
• Drunkard - 1,000 minutes drunk.
• Incorrigible Ale-Hound - 10,000 minutes drunk.

Gladiator

Lucky

unlucky ed

legendary defender of Ascalon

so with five you can get the title KoaBD

Shaz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS]

13 Dec 2006 at 22:37 - 497

I don't think you can max out Gladiator Title, just like the Hero Title

jryan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/R

14 Dec 2006 at 00:21 - 498

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetris L

You'll constantly have to babysit your pet and distract it to make sure that it doesn't accidently kill the foe it's supposed to death-level. That means you can't go afk, not even for a few minutes between rezzing your pet. And you can't speed up the process with Fenzy/sacrifice either. That means you'll have to sit in front of your PC for more than 2000 hours, doing nothing but watching your pet getting killed by a Strider or Moss Spider. That sounds like fun. Yawn.

Nah,
there are other ways and i was testing to see if pets lvled mosters in pre (which they dont) and was rezing it every 5-10 seconds.

Hint: Ice spear hurts even with your armor on, especialy a pet with 25% health.

JRyan

Purely Lime

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Virginia

Killing Is No Game [KING], The Brotherhood Of The [Wolf]

N/E

14 Dec 2006 at 00:34 - 499

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elbereth_Tiniquetil

I think this is what you can get in pre

Drinking Titles
• Drunkard - 1,000 minutes drunk.
• Incorrigible Ale-Hound - 10,000 minutes drunk.

Gladiator

Lucky

unlucky ed

legendary defender of Ascalon

so with five you can get the title KoaBD

Don't forget the Faction Allegiance titles, which are account based, not char. =)

mighty_xena

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Las Vegas, Nevada

Heroes Elite Righteous Crusade

W/R

14 Dec 2006 at 01:00 - 500

In regards to the last thread I posted, I received several feedbacks from players that are anxious whether I'm going to post it or not. A lot of the players including my guild members was asking me not to post the death leveling walkthrough because of several reasons. First, they're afraid that it might get nerfed in the future once a lot of players are doing it. Another is, in case they wanted to make other characters in pre to get the title.

Suppose I did post it to the forum and it did get nerfed, what then? The way I see it, there is not ONE positive thing to post it to this forum. I'm only doing it since I made a promise to someone that I'll do it. Unfortunately, I have to break that promise. Anyways, figuring out how to pull charr to the shrine isn't that difficult...I did it....sooner or later, others will figure it out too.

Remember: hardwork + dedication = reward

If you did figure it out and wanted to help others, it ok to let the forum know that you know how but don't post it. Instead, kindly show them how its done.

Like I said before, this forum is linked to Guild Wars. This forum has 2 functions: to get feedback from players on how they can make this game better. Another is to monitor any flaw in the game so they can manage the system.

What's the point of playing this game if someone keep feeding you with all the cheats in the game...what's the fun in that?

knowledge is power!...use it!

Sorry Amish, I have to do this for the goodwill of many

Thomas Valheru

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

WAX

Mo/Me

14 Dec 2006 at 01:45 - 501

I for one would love to be shown how this work, however I'm signing off for the night

If anyone who knows how to do this feels like sharing the secret with me, pm me on the forum or better yet contact me ingame, IGN: Conina Wolfswift

Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/

14 Dec 2006 at 01:48 - 502

It takes ANet months to nerf some of the most important things in the game. So do you really think they're going to nerf pre-searing? Nightfall is their concern atm. Considering that their are way more imporant things in this game that need fixing. Really, theres what? 500 people at most going for level 20 in pre? Not going to make the top of ANet priority list. And the things at the top of it take months to deliver so really, ANet isn't going to nerf this...

But if thats the way you feel I respect you're opinion. However if I figure this out the first thing I'm doing is posting it here...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mighty_xena

What's the point of playing this game if someone keep feeding you with all the cheats in the game...what's the fun in that?

Why do people buy walkthroughs for games? Why is GameFAQs a very popular video game site (free guides/walkthroughs). While I see where you're coming from, and to an extent I agree, as I prefer to figure things out on my own and only resort to guides/walkthroughs if I am absolutely stuck. But some people don't like to do it that way so they read these guides. People have fun in different ways

Femella Monachus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Academy of War

Mo/W

14 Dec 2006 at 02:28 - 503

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yunas Ele

People have fun in different ways

Yep. Very true. In this case, Xena's opinion is to not use any walkthroughs.

But another aspect of this situation that is different from other things is the "nerfing aspect". If you play something like Final Fantasy (not online), it doesn't really matter if you use cheats. They're not going to do anything about it (like the how they couldn't fix the hot coffee from who already bought GTA SA).

And I also understand how the likelihood of it getting nerfed is low. But still, if it is ever nerfed, it's back to square one. So if you're really desperate, just ask for advice. Provoke some thoughts. But it should not be discussed too much on forums or even in towns or outposts. Just whisper to those on the forum, friends, or guildmates.

kratic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Sole Asylum [SA]

Mo/

14 Dec 2006 at 02:42 - 504

wow i didnt realize those little things were such hidden secrets... i actually highly doubt they are to anet. People have been doing it since day 1 of GW...

plastichead

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

14 Dec 2006 at 03:22 - 505

I have been trying to drag back Charr to the shrine for a while now, the best I have been able to do is a couple of casters (from 2 differant groups) who die (slowly) to the guards. I also tried to aggro the one Charr group that's patrol comes near the res shrine, I waited until they stopped (I was as close to the shrine as I could be and on the hill) and aggroed them. The Ashen Claw was the only one to follow, and he died to the lvl 3 Rangers.
I've been doing this solo with my pet and would like some advice, mainly should I bring a pet? Does it matter? Does this need 2 people to work? Does Ben Wolfson have something to do with it (doubt it, he doesn't run)?

PLEASE don't post a response here, you can PM here or in game (Aux Ilary).

Hope to join you soon at 20.
~~Plastichead~~

amish lifeguard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

It's Not Pediofilia If The Kids [dead]

14 Dec 2006 at 04:18 - 506

Np Xena

Alrighty guys, you are all making it sound way to hard.
Dleveling the Charr really isnt all that hard of a task. If you ever farmed the Charr, you should know their behavior. Each group always has at least one Shaman, Ashen Claw or Chaot. One of the casters will follow you infinately whereever you go. Most people should have noticed this. Simply go around to different mobs and pull one caster away and move onto the next mob. Now, in order to kill the guards at the zone, you need at least 3 Shamans. Go to the boss area, get 3 shamans, go to the first 2 groups of Charr, get their casters that follow you and head to the res shrine. make sure you pull them to be right next to the monk so they are all bunched up for heal area.

And there you go, simple as that. I've alrady done it 5 times and have gotten 4-7 lvl 20s each time.

Questions? Feel free to PM me ingame-Amish Is Leet. But please, don't ask anything that you can think out yourself.

pjfresh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

NC, USA

Through the Eyes of the Dragon [eyes]

R/

14 Dec 2006 at 04:23 - 507

Plastic,

I'm in the same boat as you with regards to pulling the charr. It's no secret that with the new AI, casters follow you for a very long way, one at a time. I always thought this was strange in Nightfall (and probably a bug) but I'm not complaining if a single monk wants to pursue me and go "Rambo" on a party of 8

.

Anyway, I've pulled 3 shaman to the Ascalonian guards at the gate and while they did put up a good fight, they still couldn't overcome the single lvl5 monk/warrior woman. The main problem with the casters (I've pulled chaots and ashens, too) is that they don't "wand" (the NPCs anyway) and solely rely on spells to deal dmg. So anyone attempting this would be wise to pull 4 or more casters to save time. A good thing to note is that when you die (which is quite possible w/ 4+ casters attacking you), most of the time they appear to just stick around until you come and get them again

The only problem I foresee is that 4-5 shaman might be too much healing to overcome, in which case, when you do the initial pull, kill the shaman and pull the other caster instead or look for charr groups w/out the shaman (skip groups w/ 2 shaman, obviously).

In addition, I'll try with a guildie (2 person attempt, maybe it makes a diff.) and ask other LDoA seekers to fill me in on "the trick" of pulling melee Charr. Getting the title in 1-2 months vs. 7+ is pretty significant and worth the research, I'd say. Anyway, good luck and happy hunting.

- Stacy the Ranger

EDIT: Beat me to it, Amish. The pitfalls of being a slow typer :P Good to know it's worked for you though.

Purely Lime

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Virginia

Killing Is No Game [KING], The Brotherhood Of The [Wolf]

N/E

14 Dec 2006 at 04:33 - 508

Quote:

Originally Posted by amish lifeguard

Now, in order to kill the guards at the zone, you need at least 3 Shamans.

Nice, I tried this before but only pulled 2 shamans and it didn't work, so I gave up. Nice to know that it works with 3 ^^. Thanks for the info.

~Lime

plastichead

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

14 Dec 2006 at 05:22 - 509

Quote:

Originally Posted by amish lifeguard

Np Xena

Alrighty guys, you are all making it sound way to hard.
Dleveling the Charr really isnt all that hard of a task. If you ever farmed the Charr, you should know their behavior. Each group always has at least one Shaman, Ashen Claw or Chaot. One of the casters will follow you infinately whereever you go. Most people should have noticed this. Simply go around to different mobs and pull one caster away and move onto the next mob. Now, in order to kill the guards at the zone, you need at least 3 Shamans. Go to the boss area, get 3 shamans, go to the first 2 groups of Charr, get their casters that follow you and head to the res shrine. make sure you pull them to be right next to the monk so they are all bunched up for heal area.

And there you go, simple as that. I've alrady done it 5 times and have gotten 4-7 lvl 20s each time.

Questions? Feel free to PM me ingame-Amish Is Leet. But please, don't ask anything that you can think out yourself.

thanks, but should you have posted this?

Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Adelaide, Australia

Holy Champions of Justice

N/Mo

14 Dec 2006 at 05:29 - 510

A good spot to get the Charr to follow you is just past the fire shrine on the right on the top path,

in this area a group of 4, normally made up of casters or hunters will follow you all the way to the res shrine.

Most times when you run back you also pull the group of 3 Charr that patrol up and down from the fire shrine.

here they are at the res area fighting

plastichead

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

14 Dec 2006 at 06:39 - 511

i have a feeling this may disappear when they fix this: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10089358

God Apprentice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

14 Dec 2006 at 08:29 - 512

Quote:

Originally Posted by plastichead

i have a feeling this may disappear when they fix this: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10089358

They already patched that a long time ago, that was the AI adjustment I talked about earlier, it affected pre as well and pulling Charr like Anti did was impossible afterwards. But as we have seen Charr can still be pulled, just not in the frequency like the past.

Yes Leo another title

plastichead

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

14 Dec 2006 at 09:08 - 513

i believe this a newer bug, didn't show up until nightfalls release. the date on this is 12-11 2006, fairly recent.

amish lifeguard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

It's Not Pediofilia If The Kids [dead]

14 Dec 2006 at 23:09 - 514

lol PJ!

Anywho, yeah, they are a tad bit to kill once they are high levels because there are too many shaman. An easy solution is to leave a few oakhearts or patrols alive and let the Charr kill them while you attack them. This usually works for me and once you kill one, they fall like dominos.

Also, I have found that if you pull some of the casters from the first group and let them kill the guards and you like normal, some of the others in that mob will run to you at the shrine without you pulling them. 6% per Dlvl=fortehwin

Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/

15 Dec 2006 at 00:43 - 515

Im having a problem. I can only seem to get 1 char to chase me at a time. I can run through as many other mobs as I want but only 1 char will follow me. If I lure it back to the shrine, I can "drop it off" there, and then go get some more char (who wouldn't follow me when I already had 1 char following me, but will now gladly follow me). The problem is though, if I drop 1 char off, by the time I bring in the next one, the first is dead. I've even managed to position them so that only the monk and 2 of the guards (not all 4) are attacking the char. Not really helpnig x_x

Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance.
~Yunas Ele

amish lifeguard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

It's Not Pediofilia If The Kids [dead]

15 Dec 2006 at 02:00 - 516

Does each group have at least one spell caster? Where are you running away to? Are they fighting the oakies or the grawl? which mobs wont follow you? Its working fine for me =O

Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/

15 Dec 2006 at 02:38 - 517

Quote:

Originally Posted by amish lifeguard

Does each group have at least one spell caster? Where are you running away to? Are they fighting the oakies or the grawl? which mobs wont follow you? Its working fine for me =O

Yup, I avoid groups w/o spellcasters like the plague. I usually go ahead and clear out the oaks and grawls to prevent any problems. Okay my route:
I go towards the broken down house area very near the begining and leeroy through both of the mobs. Despite there being 2 seperate groups, both with casters, only 1 guy follows through. Then I head to the area on dolls anti leet / Elbereth_Tiniquetil's map. None from that group want to follow me. So I head back to the shrine with still only the original caster from the broken down house area following me. Then I run towards the shrine and "drop off" the original caster by the shrine. Unfortunately he doesn't last long

Then, I run back to the place on doll's map. Now 1 of the char decides he'll follow me, despite not wanting to follow me earlier when I already had 1 char following me...

amish lifeguard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

It's Not Pediofilia If The Kids [dead]

15 Dec 2006 at 02:46 - 518

huh, thats wierd. Never happened to me before. Has this happened more than once?

Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/

15 Dec 2006 at 03:00 - 519

Quote:

Originally Posted by amish lifeguard

huh, thats wierd. Never happened to me before. Has this happened more than once?

Ya I've gone through it about 6 times. Only difference is that 2 of the times, the char near the broken house area didn't aggro at all and I was only able to get 1 from doll's area. Just a bad spawn those 2 runs I guess. But still kinda lost on why I can only get 1 guy at a time the other 2 runs. Ah well, I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually. Thanks for quick replies amish, much appreciated

amish lifeguard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

It's Not Pediofilia If The Kids [dead]

15 Dec 2006 at 03:05 - 520

That's wierd, never happened to me. Anywho, I;m bored of watching the charr Dlvl themselves haha so im checking the forums every now and then