Someone pointed out a shield, and with a little research- I yielded this-
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bandit_Raid
If anyone needs a shield with 14 armor against charr, and a nifty health bonus, make an alternate character in your PvP slot, do that quest, and then have someone help you swap it.
How To: ''legendary defender of ascalon''
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holyjew888
thx killer
jryan
OK to help u out on the vamp item thing;
1.) An update way back when made it so that vamp items only spawn on gold items. Since there are no gold items in pre the only vamp items in pre are those from before the update.
2.) The inherent dmg mods on weapons are typically the ones u see as +% dmg when u meet a certain condition like over 50% health and what not. There is also (very rare) a dmg mod that gives u %dmg bonus but gives u -1 health like a vamp item. I have seen dual life leeching mod items in pre from players who death lvl alot.
JRyan
1.) An update way back when made it so that vamp items only spawn on gold items. Since there are no gold items in pre the only vamp items in pre are those from before the update.
2.) The inherent dmg mods on weapons are typically the ones u see as +% dmg when u meet a certain condition like over 50% health and what not. There is also (very rare) a dmg mod that gives u %dmg bonus but gives u -1 health like a vamp item. I have seen dual life leeching mod items in pre from players who death lvl alot.
JRyan
holyjew888
hmm so the -1health mod is still in pre...
THERE IS HOPE!
THERE IS HOPE!
God Apprentice
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OK to help u out on the vamp item thing;
2.) The inherent dmg mods on weapons are typically the ones u see as +% dmg when u meet a certain condition like over 50% health and what not. There is also (very rare) a dmg mod that gives u %dmg bonus but gives u -1 health like a vamp item. I have seen dual life leeching mod items in pre from players who death lvl alot. JRyan |
Those are extremely rare, I have seen one person with one
holyjew888
did that person find it in pre, or did they buy it from someone tat smuggled it in?
holyjew888
i think gwg should find a place for pre chars(im talking about a new forum)
emoxcore
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i think gwg should find a place for pre chars(im talking about a new forum)
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holyjew888
lol, most of the people who hang out in pre seem to be cool. so whether or not there is game discussion, our general discussions will be nice, also alot of wts's and wtb's
Femella Monachus
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did that person find it in pre, or did they buy it from someone tat smuggled it in?
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Elbereth_Tiniquetil
I have seen 1 person with a blue vamp axe in pre, it had a low dmg output but still had the -1 hp regen. I trust that person and 99.9% would say that they never cheat.
holyjew888
did kno u cud even get a -1 degen blue weapon...HMMMM! (...i can see it now...WTB UNIDED BLUE ITEMS...ANYTHING...10GP!)
jryan
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did kno u cud even get a -1 degen blue weapon...HMMMM! (...i can see it now...WTB UNIDED BLUE ITEMS...ANYTHING...10GP!)
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The vamp mod used to drop on blue-gold items but no more in pre.
(some had salvage kits they used to salvage vamp strings i am sure)
The -1 H-regen dmg mod can be found on any blue item but they (like god apprentice said) are so obscenely rare. I have never had one drop ever ever ever
So buying alot of blues realy doesnt do u any good.
JRyan
Dfx Gladiator
I have some questions...
In the northlands, when we take the "Across the Wall" quest, isn't it more economic in terms of time (and money, to eventually pay someone to open u the gate), to clear all the area of charr instead of just killing those groups? Cause that way you will not have to go to Ascalon again and wait hours for a nice person to open the gate for u, u just remain in the northlands and clear all of it, there are plenty more charr than those two groups there.
And the other question... why do we take the "Across the Wall" quest? Can't we go to the northlands if we don't have it? Or is it because the spawns are diferent?
Thanks
In the northlands, when we take the "Across the Wall" quest, isn't it more economic in terms of time (and money, to eventually pay someone to open u the gate), to clear all the area of charr instead of just killing those groups? Cause that way you will not have to go to Ascalon again and wait hours for a nice person to open the gate for u, u just remain in the northlands and clear all of it, there are plenty more charr than those two groups there.
And the other question... why do we take the "Across the Wall" quest? Can't we go to the northlands if we don't have it? Or is it because the spawns are diferent?
Thanks
holyjew888
"**more coming"
that is what it says after those pictures. those are not all that you kill, you will go onto killing the bosses and a little further but i have found the most "economic" way to do this. also after you do it if you sell most of you have found you should have enough gold to pay someone 50gold to open gate and leave, much faster and will take 2 or 3 spams to find this person.
that is what it says after those pictures. those are not all that you kill, you will go onto killing the bosses and a little further but i have found the most "economic" way to do this. also after you do it if you sell most of you have found you should have enough gold to pay someone 50gold to open gate and leave, much faster and will take 2 or 3 spams to find this person.
Amon Borknagar
Im glad you guys have put this guide up. I have always thought it would be really cool to have a lvl20 char in pre ever since I had actually heard the rumors that a few existed. I just didn't have clue how to do it. Now that I do, I'm in. And it not for the title for me. I just want a 20 in pre so I can brag to my guildmates lol. Eff teh Title.
RTSFirebat
I have a question about the following screenshot:
Now clearly it shows you are a Mesmer using some Ranger skills. Now I have a Mesmer which has 4 skills + 3 Ranger skill... which thus equals 7 skills in my bar.
However the above screenshot shows that you have 5 Mesmer skills, can you explain how it is you have 5?
Because I don't see how that is possible?
Now clearly it shows you are a Mesmer using some Ranger skills. Now I have a Mesmer which has 4 skills + 3 Ranger skill... which thus equals 7 skills in my bar.
However the above screenshot shows that you have 5 Mesmer skills, can you explain how it is you have 5?
Because I don't see how that is possible?
Xavius
I believe the first quest you get from the mesmer out of Ascalon gives you Empathy and Ether feast for "Mesmer's Test". Althea then can give you Conjure Phantasm and Imagined Burden for doing the quest that kills the rogue bull, and then in Foibles Fair Vassar will give you Backfire, and Shatter Delusions for doing that quest to kill the riverskale brood(s). So you can get 6 mesmer skills as a main prof mesmer.
Err I think you just have to accept taking quest to get the skills from Althea and Vassar, don't have to actually do it and accept xp. I think you should make room on skill bar before talking to them though. I "think".
Err I think you just have to accept taking quest to get the skills from Althea and Vassar, don't have to actually do it and accept xp. I think you should make room on skill bar before talking to them though. I "think".
RTSFirebat
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I believe the first quest you get from the mesmer out of Ascalon gives you Empathy and Ether feast for "Mesmer's Test". Althea then can give you Conjure Phantasm and Imagined Burden for doing the quest that kills the rogue bull, and then in Foibles Fair Vassar will give you Backfire, and Shatter Delusions for doing that quest to kill the riverskale brood(s). So you can get 6 mesmer skills as a main prof mesmer.
Err I think you just have to accept taking quest to get the skills from Althea and Vassar, don't have to actually do it and accept xp. I think you should make room on skill bar before talking to them though. I "think". |
I suggest the guide be updated further to make that clear.
Cronnie
*Joins the crusade*
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Livingston
Any word on how many moa birds you have to take to lvl 20 and kill? And how long it takes as a standard to afk death level a moa without any sort of negative items or what not.
It seems to me that this would take over a month of 24/7 leveling considering you are only killing 1-2 (3 if extremely lucky) lvl 20 mobs every how ever many hours it takes to level them... Doesn't seem to fit the time of the OP...
I was actually already working on a character in Presearing that I was hoping to get to level 16 by not cashing in any quests and just farming XP, then cashing in the quests at the end, before I knew about death leveling, so it's very interesting that they've made a title for it.
The only bad thing about it though is that it makes it impossible for a single character to get every title in the game. Something I would greatly want to achieve. It would really suck to say I have every title, then someone say, ah but do you have this one, and flash their legendary defender title, which you could then say right here, but then they say, ah then where's your survivor title, and then you just have to log and go cry somewhere...
Livingston
It seems to me that this would take over a month of 24/7 leveling considering you are only killing 1-2 (3 if extremely lucky) lvl 20 mobs every how ever many hours it takes to level them... Doesn't seem to fit the time of the OP...
I was actually already working on a character in Presearing that I was hoping to get to level 16 by not cashing in any quests and just farming XP, then cashing in the quests at the end, before I knew about death leveling, so it's very interesting that they've made a title for it.
The only bad thing about it though is that it makes it impossible for a single character to get every title in the game. Something I would greatly want to achieve. It would really suck to say I have every title, then someone say, ah but do you have this one, and flash their legendary defender title, which you could then say
right here, but then they say, ah then where's your survivor title, and then you just have to log and go cry somewhere... Livingston
King's Spectre
True, true. I guess you’d have to use a Derv, Para, Sin, or Rit for your title quest. Then you *would* still have every possible title. 
Edit: I’ve got a purple zealous axe that I’m pretty sure dropped after the update. I’d think that vampiric should also be possible. 6-16 zealous axe of fortitude in pre.. mwahahah.
Edit, edit: Is there an expiration date on proph pre-order keys?
Edit: I’ve got a purple zealous axe that I’m pretty sure dropped after the update. I’d think that vampiric should also be possible. 6-16 zealous axe of fortitude in pre.. mwahahah.
Edit, edit: Is there an expiration date on proph pre-order keys?
holyjew888
what seems to be going faster on the topic of death leveling is just letting the bird d/l for 1 hour and kil them after that, i have not tested this myself but people are telling me this. if soemone would like ot do some number crunching it just might end up in my guide
amish lifeguard
Gladiator, I have never waited more than 5 minutes for a kind soul to help me over the wall for free. Even though I live in the US but play euro.
holyjew888
i just pay the greedy american bastards...
jryan
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Edit: I’ve got a purple zealous axe that I’m pretty sure dropped after the update. I’d think that vampiric should also be possible. 6-16 zealous axe of fortitude in pre.. mwahahah.
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Vamp mod only drops on gold items and is listed in an update and also accounts for its extreme rarity in pre now.
MMSDome
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I have some questions...
In the northlands, when we take the "Across the Wall" quest, isn't it more economic in terms of time (and money, to eventually pay someone to open u the gate), to clear all the area of charr instead of just killing those groups? Cause that way you will not have to go to Ascalon again and wait hours for a nice person to open the gate for u, u just remain in the northlands and clear all of it, there are plenty more charr than those two groups there. And the other question... why do we take the "Across the Wall" quest? Can't we go to the northlands if we don't have it? Or is it because the spawns are diferent? Thanks |
God Apprentice
Ju the blue degen item the person found it in pre
RTSFirebat
I'm getting along well with the Guide, got to level 7 at the moment and got myself a Melandru's Stalker for a tank.
Dfx Gladiator
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Gladiator, I have never waited more than 5 minutes for a kind soul to help me over the wall for free. Even though I live in the US but play euro.
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, as soon as I type: "Hi, I need someone to plz open the gate for me.", almost instantly there is a person helpin. And I don't even need to offer gold, but I always pay them 50gp in the end for they're kindness. Quote:
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emoxcore
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Yeh, I think i was exagerating
, as soon as I type: "Hi, I need someone to plz open the gate for me.", almost instantly there is a person helpin. And I don't even need to offer gold, but I always pay them 50gp in the end for they're kindness. Well, I've been farming the charr in northlands since level 8 (jumped the tedious part of "charr at the gate"), and I have never died yet, it's very easy if don't rush and follow the guidelines. Anyway, Mesmers rlly rock in pre, and ofc a pet also helps alot. |
If your allready in the northlands, aggro the charr and kill em
I didnt start soloing till lvl 14 ._. but im a necro and not a mesmer, idk maybe i thought i wasnt rdy to solo (i think i tried a few times). hmm but soloin at 8 is pretty good,
emoxcore
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Any word on how many moa birds you have to take to lvl 20 and kill? And how long it takes as a standard to afk death level a moa without any sort of negative items or what not.
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Originally Posted by Livingston
It seems to me that this would take over a month of 24/7 leveling considering you are only killing 1-2 (3 if extremely lucky) lvl 20 mobs every how ever many hours it takes to level them... Doesn't seem to fit the time of the OP...
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Originally Posted by Livingston
I was actually already working on a character in Presearing that I was hoping to get to level 16 by not cashing in any quests and just farming XP, then cashing in the quests at the end, before I knew about death leveling, so it's very interesting that they've made a title for it.
The only bad thing about it though is that it makes it impossible for a single character to get every title in the game. Something I would greatly want to achieve. It would really suck to say I have every title, then someone say, ah but do you have this one, and flash their legendary defender title, which you could then say right here, but then they say, ah then where's your survivor title, and then you just have to log and go cry somewhere... Livingston |
Dfx Gladiator
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Kinda sucks when you go to pay them and then they say something random like "lets kill charr" or "you leave" or "i wanna kill charr"..something around thos lines.
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emoxcore
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Hmm.. fortunatly, never hapened to me. Always found polite ppl and usually they're low levels so if they demanded me to kill the charr for them i would just aggro the monsters to they're location and... *ploft* kthnxbai xp leecher
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Pure Disasta
Yeah iam glad i dont have to charr hunt anymore it was bad enough having to go like 8-16 solo charr hunting all the way. Then again death training isnt much better anyways and i cant wait till charr death training is released.
King's Spectre
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Um maybe thats because they didnt make zealous mod only drop on gold items....
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B??x??44????1@$
Just in my experience, soloing is a waste. Sure, you loose out on keeping all the drops for yourself, but you're there for the experience from the bosses. Getting 128 exp a run with 2 people, is better than getting 256 by yourself, because you can do it a heck of a lot faster solo (Unless you are a mesmer. then you shuold be able to competantly solo it).
Also, for people using the ranger secondary- when you finally get around to questing. Do not accept it as your secondary, still leave it to the demoing of the skills even after you have done all the other quests, this way when your pet dies, your skills don't get recharged.
Also, for people using the ranger secondary- when you finally get around to questing. Do not accept it as your secondary, still leave it to the demoing of the skills even after you have done all the other quests, this way when your pet dies, your skills don't get recharged.
Covah
and like i said when u switch to other profs and lose charm, your pet will still be the same lvl when u switch back to ranger.
Amen to that.
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i cant wait till charr death training is released.
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holyjew888
for lvl 15 and 16 partner with someone who needs exp and will stll get it from the other charr(i.e. me) to partner with you then they can help u clear area around the bosses and then while you kill the bosses they can go kill the charr from earlier, amish and i did this (cept i was only lvl 6 so i killed oakies) and it worked well.
Lilanthe
So, now that more and more people goes for that title, how much time does it approximately take ? Reading the thread, there is some people that say 300 hours, others say 1000+ hours...
How much is it ?
How much is it ?