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Originally Posted by natuxatu
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Originally Posted by Myrkwid I can't get some of the arguments here off my head. 1.) You rushed to fast through the game, no wonder you are bored. Nope. I did not rush through it, I even took my time to work for the cartographer title until reaching the later parts of the desolation. Currently close to 90% and it took not that much time. Of an online game that is labeled as CORPG I do not expect to be bored a week after release. Sure, every game is getting worn out after a time. But nightfall, well, not exactly Nightfall, but the changes made to the game with the release of nightfall and some mechanics being there from the start, shortened the game tremendously due to the complete lack of an endgame in PvE. I expect more out of a game when paying full price. At least more than the buyingprice in hours. 2.) Take a break What will that change? Will the game change until the next chapter? Will it even change to the positive with the next chapter? If I take a break, for let's say five weeks, the quests will still be the same. There will still be no endgame. And elitemissions and challenge missions aren't an endgame, too. What do they offer? Nothing. Fun to play for a couple of times, some more some less, but after playing them some times they get boring too, just like the missions and other quests. Again out of the same reasons, they are alwys the same. 1) The fact of the matter is there is more to do. The fact that you don't want to do it is your own problem. 2) Take a break.. wait till new things are added and try again. Still don't like it? Go away. The fact is there are plenty of people happy with it; and each chapter thus far has introduced something new and different. If you don't like it to this point you probably won't like in the future either. I'd also point out this is mainly a causal gamers game. The hardcore gamers can get through it quickly get the high end armor and everything, but most are smart enough to realize what they're doing and what this will mean down the road. (Even still some continue to enjoy it.) Bottom line: If you complain but keep on buying, well... good for A.Net. |
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Originally Posted by Sid Soggybottom
Hey I'm all for adding new stuff but it's funny that you complain that the game is boring after completing the campaign in only a week, yet you're asking for a repeatable quest to do over and over and over again to relieve your boredom? And you complain that taking a break wont do anything because nothing will change. So repeatable quests is a big difference? No matter how random those quests are, they'll always be the same due to them having to be simple since they're supposed to be random.
Oh come on. Dont fall into the "Timmy got a bigger lollipop and I didnt" trap. It's just petty. If you havent noticed in all 3 chapters, PVE has always been the bulk of the game. And in Nightfall the bulk of the changes have been to PVE. Complaining that ANET isnt listening to PVE'rs and catering only to PVP is childish. |
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Originally Posted by natuxatu
1) The fact of the matter is there is more to do. The fact that you don't want to do it is your own problem.
2) Take a break.. wait till new things are added and try again. Still don't like it? Go away. The fact is there are plenty of people happy with it; and each chapter thus far has introduced something new and different. If you don't like it to this point you probably won't like in the future either. If you complain but keep on buying, well... good for A.Net. |
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Originally Posted by Myrkwid
Who said that they have to be simple? Is there any technical reason why they have to be simple? Nope. And even if it is repetetive gaming, it would still add. I preffer doing dynamic quests over and over again than doing the static ones. What is your solution? I didn't see anything constructive ideas in your post.
Or did you join gw jsut a few months ago? then I would still think the same. And don't use childish here, or do you want to start a debate about our age? I'm sure you'll lose. |
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Originally Posted by lacasner
Your method of reasoning is flawed, because if you think like that nothing in this game will ever change in content, it will just continue to change in appearence.
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Originally Posted by Sid Soggybottom
Well that's funny, since repeatable randomized quests will be just what you're arguing against. They will just be content with some appearance changes but not truly a change in content.
Unless you truly think that repeatable random point A to point B quests are soooo dynamic and innovative and much more fun than the current static quests. |
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Originally Posted by MyrkwidHell
, I love some parts of the game, just like I hate some other parts. Yet I still liked it at an average that much, that I still care about it and bought everything, even additional slots and CE's. That I convinced my guild members to pick up the expansions and to stick with the game. I always pointed out the game is like a raw diamond that still needs to be cutted into a brilliant. But lately the game moves into a direction I do not favor, nor see I real advancement towards the brilliant (that I expect) anymore. What I'd like to see is some kind of roadmap from Anet. Nothing specific, but they must have some plans for the future of guild wars. They have around 100 people employed painting and coding each day to make guild wars better, there must be a distant goal of gameplay they want to reach with gw. If this goal is clear to every customer upon purchase, there will be less people disappointed...maybe.
At least that would be a way to see if our complaints will fall on deaf ears as they are pointed in the opposite direction of the aimed goal or if they will be taken serious. |
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Originally Posted by w00t!
QFT. Amazing how people automatically assume that their opinion is always right, and therefore Anet should modify what they do.
I'm a long-time Sorrow's Furnace farmer, and the fun was not in the accumulating greens or wealth, but in interacting with other people. Nerfs have just forced us to change our approach. Our 4 man Urgoz runs no longer work after the update? WTF? Let's change a few skills and try it again based on how the new AI works. Hmm, works better now, but I actually have to pay attention rather than mindlessly hit my blessed signit key every few seconds. Point is, the person who complained probably played over 1,000 hours for a game that they paid $50 for. The room for righteous indignation is somewhat small. Learn and adapt. |
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Originally Posted by Myria
Not to belabor the obvious, but the more you play the game, the more you cost Anet/NCSoft in bandwidth and CPU time. Given that, I should think the ideal customer is someone who buys the game, plays it for a few hours, and never gets around to playing it again -- I've known several people who've done just that. Needless to say, from that pespective it's doubtful that anyone reading this is an ideal customer, we're more their CFO's worst nightmare.
Perhaps the reason farming, chest running, and other such "endgame" activities keep getting nerfed into oblivion has nothing to do with, as everyone seems to assume, Chinese gold factories, and more to do with Anet, like most other creatures, acting according to its percieved best interest. The hardcore getting bored, especially when many of them will be back for the next chapter no matter what, is objectively a Good Thing(tm) from Anet's point-of-view. And even if they do lose a few in the long run, it's not like they were ideal customers anyway. |
