Vote on PvP access control over PvE areas.

I'm sorry you're so opposed to free expression. However, given Anet's common requests for votes on all aspects of the game(on these very forums), coupled with their constant revamping and changing of old systems, I believe you are wrong.

I love the arguement 'this is how it was made and it won't change'

A few things I need to point out right now.

The Game was made with NO premade PvP characters - Should the pvp char be removed?

The Game was made with no Balthazar faction - Should this be removed?

There are plenty of other things that were changed in both PvE and PvP in response to players wishes so the tired old 'It's not how the game was made' arguement is a bit of a dinosaur.

I'd say no, because you allready have to pay 1k for entering these area's, but alas, gw is designed around this "hoh is needed for favor thing" and i personally think they don't gonna trow it away so easily And how would they display the XXXX has won a battle in the hall of heroes thing?

Vote: no

The lore part never made any sense, in-game. Balthazar and crew are the gods of a fantasy world, not the gods of our world. They should stick to Tyria, Cantha and Elona and keep their noses clean of America, Europe, Korea, Japan en Taiwan.

Yeah, right. Maybe that happened when Chapter 1 was brand new...right up until the TOA players trying to do that got themselves massacred in Round 1 of Tombs every single time then realized they have zero chance of ever winning HoH once, let alone 5 times in a row. Which is why it never happens any more and hasn't in eons.


So what? You say that as if the statement itself carries a negative connotation with it or has a point to it. It doesn't. It could also be said that HoH players just wanna play HoH all day - again, so what? It's their business, just like it's Ecto farmers' business if they want to farm Ectos all day.

This thread has been made millions of times on this board, and the consensus will always be that the vast majority of players want the Favor system removed. That's all that needs to be done. Remove favor, end of story. 99.99% of the playerbase becomes happy with that change. Not sure why Anet never does this.

This thread is destined to be made millions of more times in the future also until Favor is removed.

The present system is not designed for people who prefer one or the other.

The game is designed for people who like both.

imo.

To take full advantage of Guild Wars and enjoy it to its fullest extent requires dabbling in both PvP and PvE.

As such, i want more PvP aspects in PvE. Quite frankly its too easy and deserves a roundhouse kick to the head.

I vote yes, that PvP should have control over it, like it does now. If you remove the PvP aspect, prices of ecto/shards will go down to 0 gold, as farmers will have free reign to farm LITERALLY 24/7.

Farmers already have multiple accounts in multiple servers, so thats really irrelevant to the discussion.

edit:

I disagree with this idea. I will continue to disagree. Just like i will disagree with PvPers who want 15k armor using Balthazar faction.

The World At War concept needs tweaking at the most. But removing it will break the game. I guranty(god dont make me look up the spelling) this because you want to remove a core design of the game and the debugging process will be mindnumbingly painful.

Ok then, but can you imagine every single server all farming UW at the same time? I like ecto being rare, and I like FoW being (sort of) prestige. Opening it up for everyone would be a bad idea.

The Deep and Urgoz being open for everyone is cool, and DOA being open for everyone would be cool, but UW and FoW would wreak havok on Ecto/Shard prices, which are both used for trading and FoW armor.

I play on the east coast of the USA and I have to wait until almost 10 or 11pm most days to get favor. I agree that the PvP players should not have control over my ability to go into UW or FOW. And why should I have to assemble a PvP team to get favor so I can then go into FOW of UW? I enjoy the PvE and have been a loyal player for over a year, but I just do not feel comfortable killing other players. That is a different type of player and I do not think its fair for them to control my access.

Yet the PvP mechanic was changed to allow playing the entire PvP game without touching PvE at all. Why not allow it the other way as well? Why not allow all of PvE to be played without PvP?

/Signs for no control of PvP over PvE areas AT ALL

Yes, because enough people whine about it. Just because Anet made changes to please the players doesn't mean the players were right.

Fan-service shouldn't take precedence over game design.

I love Anet's original core concepts and instead of tweaking it and improving it, they just break down and strip it apart to make people happy since its much easier that way.

Excepted for the roundhouse kick, I don't understand.
I do both PVE and PvP (mainly GvG).
IMO, the most successful merging between PVE and PVP is Alliance Battles, as the rewards for PvPing are PVE-kind (Factions can be traded for amber or give access to outposts).
I don't think UW/FOW is designed for PVE+PVP players. When you play FoW, you don't hold halls. When you hold halls, you don't do FoW. In fact, it is a completely mutually exclusive system. The Hall Holders are far from being the
FoW farmers and vice-versa. These are two different populations of players.

So, even if the favor system was designed for players who do both, it has obviously failed.

Out of arguments, your only defence for the system is that it will break if changed.

If you allow all regions access to UW the price is ecto is gonna hit the floor, i think thats more harmful to pve.

My vote is yes on this.

*knowing this might start a PvP vs PvE war*

Then why are only PvP'ers listened to when it involves these kind of changes? So far, a lot of changes were made to seperate PvP from PvE, but not PvE from PvP. Do PvP'ers whine more than PvE'ers? Or is there another reason? There's really no good reason why people winning in HA control access to UW/FoW other than "Anet put it in, accept it". Anet also put in 6v6, the poll in the PvP forum clearly indicates people aren't accepting it.

*cough*SWG*cough*

People can farm Gold Weapons anytime 24/7, yet the price of them stays consistent with their rarity. The drops of other rare materials like Rubies, Sapphires and Diamonds is clearly easily managed.

I hereby declare the 'OMG the price will drop!' argument invalid and defeated.

The game breaking situation is a very valid problem.

But I dont really care about that as much as I care about the philosophy of the game.

It saddens me at some of the directions that Anet took Guild Wars to coddle the community.

My opinion is not very popular, because I oppose a change that can make a lot people happy. Too bad. Feel free to disagree with me.

PvP and PvE should be completely intergrated. Imo, it will create a richer and more varied experience. But thats not gonna happen.


As much as I disagree, im still realistic and i know Anet will listen to the majority. Much to my discontent.

"Dabbling" in PVP wouldn't let your team get to HoH much less win it 5 times in a row to get favor.

That would require a hardcore Tombs Guild or hardcore R9+ PUG on TS or Vent --- which is a giant leap away from anything that "dabbling in PVP" would get you. Which is, it would get you nothing.

The unlock packs generate revenue. Completely opening up all PvE wont...