Poll: Should GW1 characters be able to cross over to the GW2? - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Innuendo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

06 Mar 2007 at 17:24 - 41

No, a fresh start is best.

Asking to have your characters imported is selfish. Basically, you are saying to A-Net, "I'm a valued customer so I should be treated differently than everyone else." This is wrong. Everyone should be treated the same and be given equal opportunities. Imagine this scenario: You are in a store buying a product which will require a major investment. This investment could be time, money, labor, or a combination of the three. As you're waiting in line you notice the person ahead of you is also buying this same product. As this person approaches the cashier he/she says, "Since I've spent so much money here in the past I should get a discount, right? Oh, and can you put this together and call me when it's ready?" Imagine how you would feel when they comply to his request yet still charge you in full. Unfair? Unjust? This person probably hasn't spent any more than a regular customer in a given timeframe, however he coerces them with a slefish tactic to get ahead. And, no, he didn't have a discount card.

Many games require lots of time and effort to succeed. Final Fantasy, Everquest, Asheron's Call, Lineage, Phantasy Star, etc, etc. It takes a long time in Final Fantasy to level all your characters to 99. However, with every new game you start over at level one. Why should Guild Wars be any different? Why should any game with a completely different timeline or world allow this? The entire concept is absurd. It may seem like a reasonable tactic to keep customers happy, but all it will accomplish is alienating one player base from another.

*Edit* Besides, why would A-Net trash GW1 when GW2 is released? I doubt they would make such a poor business decision.

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

06 Mar 2007 at 17:33 - 42

I need to know more about GW2 before I can make this decision. I love my primary (Carinae), but she'll pretty much HAVE to lose items, armor, titles(?), money, and SKILLS, etc. Won't she?

Will there even BE necromancers in GW2? Will they work anything like current necros?

Will she LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME?

Although, I will say this.....It would rock if Anet allowed highly invested PvE characters to transfer somehow as a PERK to those people to supported GW1. But there are too many unknowns currently.

Dark Dragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

RTD

E/

06 Mar 2007 at 17:47 - 43

I wouldn't mind losing stats and items but it would be nice to carry my character over

Westofeden

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

TN

Naga Stole Mah Bike [OhNo]

R/E

06 Mar 2007 at 17:52 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSSuperman

No - GW2 should mean new game, not just expansion pack. Fresh start needed.

Agreed

Otherwise it should just be Guild Wars Chapter 5.

I can't belive "yes" is winning.

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

06 Mar 2007 at 17:52 - 45

No, for a start there would be new character creation models, character skins, armour skins, weapon skins. It wouldnt work without morphing the old game with the new, therefore it wouldnt be new. Thats what expansions are for.

Its a new game, new start, new stuff. Even if you could port them they probably wouldnt look the same anyway.

Empedocles

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/

06 Mar 2007 at 17:53 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innuendo

This is wrong. Everyone should be treated the same and be given equal opportunities. Imagine this scenario: You are in a store buying a product which will require a major investment. This investment could be time, money, labor, or a combination of the three. As you're waiting in line you notice the person ahead of you is also buying this same product. As this person approaches the cashier he/she says, "Since I've spent so much money here in the past I should get a discount, right? Oh, and can you put this together and call me when it's ready?" Imagine how you would feel when they comply to his request yet still charge you in full. Unfair? Unjust? This person probably hasn't spent any more than a regular customer in a given timeframe, however he coerces them with a slefish tactic to get ahead. And, no, he didn't have a discount card.

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Loyal customers get a lot of benefits and special offers, you know, nothing selfish there.

Sectus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Miss Meow Meow's Guild

06 Mar 2007 at 18:15 - 47

Over all the RPG games I've played I've mostly been creating the same characters over and over again. So I'd definitely prefer being able to transfer my GW1 characters to GW2. If that isn't possible, I'll be recreating them... but it sure would have been nice if my old characters be automatically partially (name and looks at least) transferred to the new game.

Personally, I think the fact GW2 is supposedly hundreds of years in the future has no effect on this. Most players care a lot more about their own characters than the GW storyline... so even if it makes no sense storywise, I'm betting lots of players will be re-creating their old characters for GW2.

The only way I would consider doing a completely fresh start and make all new characters is if GW2 drops the fantasy theme and goes modern/sci-fi since it's hundreds of years in the future. I'm guessing GW2 will have the same fantasy setting though.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

06 Mar 2007 at 18:24 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westofeden

I can't belive "yes" is winning.

It is human nature not to want to give up something voluntarily.

If the question was rephrased to "Would you be upset if (and would refuse to buy) Guild Wars 2 didn't allow you to take over your GW1 characters?", I bet the response would be much different.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

06 Mar 2007 at 18:29 - 49

i think something should make about the in game name.

or i suspect there will be a rush to steal some names.

Bubba

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Netherlands

port sledge snow cones [COLD]

06 Mar 2007 at 18:29 - 50

Yes. I want to move on, but not start over again. Atleast not so soon.

So either GW2 with the same characters, or more episodes in the GW1 timeframe with the same characters.

beanerman_99

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the clouds

[Sage]

E/

06 Mar 2007 at 18:34 - 51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

I need to know more about GW2 before I can make this decision. I love my primary (Carinae), but she'll pretty much HAVE to lose items, armor, titles(?), money, and SKILLS, etc. Won't she?

Will there even BE necromancers in GW2? Will they work anything like current necros?

Will she LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME?

Although, I will say this.....It would rock if Anet allowed highly invested PvE characters to transfer somehow as a PERK to those people to supported GW1. But there are too many unknowns currently.

I think that you are thinking similar to me.

A NEW Guild Wars is just that....new. Who knows if they will have the same profession classes as we know them now. They may have Ele's, but maybe they don't use Fire or Water spells. Maybe they will retool what a Warrior is and what skills they have. Maybe they will be dual weapon wielders and look more like Barbarians. Maybe they will do away with Paragons. Maybe the Assasin will become more like what we thought they would be before Factions came out.

Too many maybes at this point. However, and it kills me to think it or say it, I think GW2 should be a brand new start. A clean slate for everyone. I love my ele character and have invested more time and platinum in her than should be allowed. But I will say a fond farewell and promise to visit her from time to time

Plus this is like 2 years away. I may not even give a crap about GW by that time LOL

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

06 Mar 2007 at 18:41 - 52

Actually, reserving the character name would probably be the easier option. If there was some sort of final quest towards the end of GW1 (and before GW2 opened) that allowed you to reserve your character's name for GW2.....IT WOULD BE PERMANENTLY RESERVED FOR YOU EVEN IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO CREATE A CHARACTER WITH THAT NAME.

Because, unfortunately, otherwise, there will be a rush of wannabes grabbing name of senior players.

I don't want to speak for them, but Racthoh, Savio, Carinae, Avarre (and many many more known PvEers) we've all had copycats already. It would piss me off to have someone beat me to my own name....not to mention reputation/identity thieves.

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

06 Mar 2007 at 18:46 - 53

If they REALLY discontinue GW and go for GW2 instead, i just switch to Hellgate:London. I'm not going to start over.

But until i see proof, i don't believe GW2 is a fact.

darkdawn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Canada

[QUE]

06 Mar 2007 at 18:49 - 54

Yeah, who even talked about GW2? From what I know they'll just release chapter after chapter.

bamm bamm bamm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

06 Mar 2007 at 18:54 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westofeden

I can't belive "yes" is winning.

If you consider A B and D to be different nuances of the same answer then technically...

I admit it's a long stretch.

rnicoll

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Conclave Order

06 Mar 2007 at 19:01 - 56

If GW2 is similar enough that moving GW1 chars across even conceptually would make sense, I'm going to be irked. New game, I want to see new classes, new skills, new armours, new customisation options, new weapons... well, new everything, really.

I'd like to see names reserved, either automatically, or as an option for people so that chars that haven't been logged in, in years, don't tie up names.

Jeremy Untouchable

Wow Stole my freetime

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arkansas

None

W/E

06 Mar 2007 at 19:05 - 57

A B and D are sort of the same answers, I think that i could have made that more clear.

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

06 Mar 2007 at 19:26 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiny Biscuit

No: new game, new rules, new story, new characters.

Yes: new game, new additions, new skills, all in a different time frame.

Do you honestly expect people to play the game otherwise? This just seems so insanely contradictory to what people were told what they had purchased. Might as well make Chp 4 this way if Anet has this method to playing the game. If factions had not this ability people would have quit then and there, night fall takes place 3 years from Ascalon events, you can EASILY in a FANTASY WORLD make up ANYTHING that can carry over a character from a different part in time. Maybe the equipment will be obselete yet the functions I am certain would not completely differ from the first set of games.

There was one idea, where characters could be crossed from The Hall of Heroes. I completely agree with this idea.

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

06 Mar 2007 at 19:38 - 59

Why is there even a poll? I haven't seen/heard of any confirmation that there will be a GW2 from anyone at Anet. My feeling is that there should just be a fresh start. It's a game after all. There's no reason why everyone should be level 20 right from the beginning. Not to mention it'd likely be boring.

Tempy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Oregon

DOH

06 Mar 2007 at 19:42 - 60

Funny how nearly every comment on here is for NO, but the Yeses are winning.

I would like it if my toon was allowed to crossover, A LOT of time spent in building her.

I also agree with the person that talked about why not if its a true GW, and if its not then why bother calling it GW2 at all???

Though you do have to consider that ANet has taken the things that worked in GW, AND the things that did not and hopefully are implementing them to be the best there is. Will I quit playing if I can't bring my toons over...or will I play at all. I won't know like many until more is available OFFICAL info is available.

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

06 Mar 2007 at 19:45 - 61

I can't believe someone even made a poll when we haven't even had any official word about it yet.....

Odinius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

[OBEY]

N/R

06 Mar 2007 at 19:55 - 62

In the hell of a finale of GW1 hell literally means hell.
After all the effort in stopping the forces of evil you eventually fail and the gods decide..... armageddon is upon us, all is lost and we dwell in the mists for hundreds of years.
Over time new life has begun to sprout in the scarred world of Guild Wars and settlements are forming again.
One day the gods grant you a new life in the new world but with one catch...
You awake in the hall of heroes, "Trouble is stirring once again in this virgin land, it is in need of heroes."
Go forth "your name" breathe the new air and cleanse this world in the name of the gods.

Hence you awake in a new world with a practically new char (only the same lol)

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

06 Mar 2007 at 20:20 - 63

I'm very torn. On one hand, I'd love the chance to start over. For instance, I loved some of the ele options in Nightfall, but I'll probably never make another ele if I don't have to because I already have Imiya. So hey, if I couldn't use her, I'd have to create a new one. My laziness couldn't get in the way.

But I'd probably end up with less chars overall unless I had a Factions-style leveling system (of my 8 played characters, 4 are Factions because the leveling is awesome for me).

On the other, I've invested a lot of time in my current characters, and would really miss playing them, which would mean I'd probably be splitting my time between GW and GW2 if that's an option and that's how it would work.

If I couldn't take them, I'd bemoan all the money I spent on armor that I can't flaunt anymore, but then I'd make all new money and have all new characters and all new armor. Or something.

But either way, it's a little early to speculate TOO much from where I'm standing. I'm reserving judgement for when I have more data.

Grip Gambler

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Online Gamer's Network

Mo/Me

06 Mar 2007 at 20:22 - 64

In my eyes... people that wouldn't play it if their characters wouldn't transfer just flat out don't enjoy playing the game.

Aerian_Skybane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

House of Caeruleous [HoC]

R/E

06 Mar 2007 at 20:25 - 65

Want my name saved but new start.

MAYBE, but its not an option, we could import our characters in a certain context (max stuff, gold, "classic" weapons) after completing the first campaign. That would be cool and not neccesarily unbalanced if they did.

But then again, this is a LONG time off, so I don't really care. No matter what, when/if GW2 comes out, I will buy it and play it and most likely enjoy it.

Yarly

Retired GW Player

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK

Mo/

06 Mar 2007 at 20:37 - 66

Words couldn't explain how happy id be if we could carry our characters through to the next guild wars. My monk has is the fruit of months and months of effort and care, Let alone all the things ive achieved. Id easily pay more to make this possible.

Trin Storm

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Balthazar's Fury

R/Me

06 Mar 2007 at 20:49 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy untouchable

i dont think that a few people leaving the game is gonna affect Anet, people leave anyway. And i strongly doubt they will just turn off GW1 when 2 comes out..EQ 1 is still kicking along

People saying they will leave, and then actually doing it are very different things (AoE change for example).

Anyway I am firmly in the new game = new character. It likely you couldn't port anything but a name anyways - the game system, art, stats may all change. Who knows. But I agree with who ever said its just like moving to WoW or some other game - you start from scratch.

Kuldebar Valiturus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Garden City, Idaho

The Order of Relumination (TOoR)

R/

06 Mar 2007 at 20:56 - 68

I think importing Guild Wars characters of a certain level into the next incarnation of Guild Wars would be a good move, but it could work against their labor to create content in many ways...unless:

ANet were to create a smaller portion of the game for truly new characters and make the bulk of the game for level 20 and up....

My guess is that the so called Guild Wars 2 won't be a physically separate game, that it will still have ties (not mandatory ties) to the original chapters.

Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

06 Mar 2007 at 20:56 - 69

I would want just ONE of my characters to move which would be my necro that I created at the beginning of guild wars, not all of them cause then that would be kinda dumb and boring. Maybe start back at level one, but I would wanna keep the titles and stuff.

thelegendozelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

OoT

W/Mo

06 Mar 2007 at 21:00 - 70

good god, half the people who voted might not even been around when/if gw2 comes out, so a poll 2-3 years in adavanced isnt going to do any good......

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

06 Mar 2007 at 21:03 - 71

Though I don't want to say it...we need a fresh start. If we brought our old characters through then the content would have to be mostly level 20 content and newbies would be overwhelmed. I have a R/E I made recently in Prophecies and was wondering why I wasn't leveling very fast. Then I remembered that the level 20 stuff is Lion's Arch and beyond, lol'ed, and adjusted my mindset. GW2 should be in the same world but with a different focus(a rebuilt Arah in a risen Orr?). It would be cool if PvP characters from both games could compete against each other. In a new hall(the Hall of The Mists?) and with new goodies.

Kuldebar Valiturus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Garden City, Idaho

The Order of Relumination (TOoR)

R/

06 Mar 2007 at 21:06 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelegendozelda

good god, half the people who voted might not even been around when/if gw2 comes out, so a poll 2-3 years in adavanced isnt going to do any good......

OMG, you are having a premonition? Will it be Thermonuclear War...or a comet strike?

It's a discussion, a brain storm and a creative exercise. It's a hell of a lot more productive then invading a small country or tipping over cows.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ValaOfTheFens

Though I don't want to say it...we need a fresh start. If we brought our old characters through then the content would have to be mostly level 20 content and newbies would be overwhelmed. I have a R/E I made recently in Prophecies and was wondering why I wasn't leveling very fast. Then I remembered that the level 20 stuff is Lion's Arch and beyond, lol'ed, and adjusted my mindset. GW2 should be in the same world but with a different focus(a rebuilt Arah in a risen Orr?). It would be cool if PvP characters from both games could compete against each other. In a new hall(the Hall of The Mists?) and with new goodies.

I would be ready to bet that ANet won't "disconnect" entirely from their franchise by making the next incarnation of Guild Wars completely segregated from the first.

There's a lot of potential to have the old tied to the new, this is assuming that the game engine and mechanics are compatible, and ANet may be working to ensure that they are.

If Guild Wars 2 is level 20 and higher with a level cap of 40, then importing old characters would be feasible. Starter areas don't have to take up that much of the game world.

Hell, maybe ANet will scrap the level system entirely and go with an attribute point system based or skill point system.

Lot of possibilities.

From a business stand point, completely divorcing your self from a previously successful venture isn't usually a smart thing. You want to take the previously earned market share with you to your new project. Making that transfer as easy and attractive as possible for your customer base is a good idea. Incorporating the <at least some" "old" within the new is even a better idea.

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

06 Mar 2007 at 21:16 - 73

For one thing, according to that article it takes place 100 years later; your characters are dead. For another, why does the poll have to be so extreme? Does everything have to be "give me this or I stop playing!!!1"?

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

06 Mar 2007 at 21:21 - 74

I want my characters to cross over please. ToT
I worked so hard on all of them! I wanna be able to still enjoy them with new things!

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

06 Mar 2007 at 21:32 - 75

@those who think this poll is untimely - which is better

To express opinions now at early game development stages or to wait until game is ready to go retail?

While I am sure that the devs have already discussed the options (after all they play GW themselves and have favorite characters with max everything and titles), it doesn't hurt to give ANet a sample of the community's feelings on this matter.

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

06 Mar 2007 at 22:04 - 76

Dont care about new start thing.I am a paying costumer,if i dont get my characters transfered, i have no reason to buy GW2 products.I dont care about elitist or noob thing, i got my own agenda and thats to have an adventure go on since i pay my money for the product.If i cant go on with my characters that i care about,then ill stay in GW1.case closed.

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

06 Mar 2007 at 22:10 - 77

GW2 is going to be a NEW game, people. New graphics, new systems, maybe a new engine. In fact, for all ANet cares, they can make GW2 A FIRSTPERSON SHOOTER!

So GW2 is going to be a new game, not an expansion/new chapter, so why do you want to port your characters?

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

06 Mar 2007 at 22:14 - 78

Then why buy new game since i am happy with GW1?

duncan99

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Norway, Oslo

Glob of Ectospasm

06 Mar 2007 at 22:16 - 79

most vote yes cuz of the time invested in the characters.. they will all probly play GW2 then so ofc they wanna take the char with them. They all know GW1 will die.. im not even getting chapter 4, im buying WoW tomorrow. Cant believe it, Anet made a BIG GW fan buy WoW

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

06 Mar 2007 at 22:24 - 80

ok,good luck with it,sure not going to miss you.