PC Gamer May 2007 Information - "Guild Wars Reborn"

Did you even read the summary of did you just proceed to flame your own opinions as you thought they were absolutely correct?

First of all Gaile said there will be no grinding even though there might not be a level cap at either 20 or around there. Second of all, they have just announced the news and we do not know exactly how everything is going to work out so please don't rush to conclusions.

Anet must be hearing that too often to make some radical modifications to GW2 imo.

I'm so excited about the whole thing but i have absolutely no way to get a PCGamer or any other magazine mentioned here http://www.guildwars.com/press/mediapartners.php. No magazines in my country, Poland is such a hole. Is there any chance for any gaming website to get such a massive coverage on GW:EN / GW2 anytime soon?

reading these last messages past my last post, I have realized that yes, we have a lot of info on GW2, but look an this, its a year away from beta.

year from beta.

Someone above me said that the info release this supremely premature could be a ploy to get us people to give Anet our input. (if so then 293473 cool points to ArenaNet.) Yeah I dread the concept of a "WoW clone" and leaving my awesome characters behind, but----Nothing is set in stone yet. These are on paper in pencil! pencils have erasers. So I'm with the people who say "Time will tell". The current info on GW2 is being predominantly poorly recieves and as such we may see GW2 have a level cap of 30, the same game mechanics and a perfect character transfer. We don't know yet!

There is hope yet!

My main concern about the playable races is the chance that there may be bonuses associated with each race. Some people won't play it if there aren't because without them then all it is a fancy skin. Personally, I'll stick with humans. If I don't like GW2 then I'll play GW until I get bored and then play Stargate Worlds. *shrug* Perhaps Neverwinter Nights 2.

It kinda makes sense

What are some of the "main" issues with GW that people complain.

PvE Camp vs PvP Camp
Changing skill because X was impacted by Y playing
The thinning out of the player base, and non-popular locations becoming ghost towns.

It looks like they plan to address these with GW2.

I do hope anet made this info out now so they can take our feed back for something this far away.

Sweeet! Hopefully now Guildwars will be a game... instead of Farming for Cash and making 893759385 PvP characters a day...

Very possibly could be these type of things or countless other ideas, The simple fact is we don't know.
All these people freaking out over partial information about a game that they know so little about how it will actually work is very humorous. *to me at least.*
I've also noticed that many of the people QQing about the "grind" that will come with higher levels are the same ones who haunt these boards QQing about the grind in GWs already. My advise for you is to play solitaire on your comp instead. wait crap that won't work when you start a new game of solitaire it won't let you bring over the deck of cards from your last game.
Sorry can't help you but at least I tried.

Ok, well... I think if Anet tallys up who is in favour of Most of the new features the figures would be..

WoW Fanboys = 6
Gw Community = 0

Im not saying that the graphical changes or the added physics are bad. But i think they are cutting there sales in half or less by not being able to bring over your characters.

NOBODY likes the idea of not being able to bring your characters.. SO WHY DO IT!.


People here arent stupid (well most of them) There making WoW comparisons because ITS LIKE WOW!!!!!!. People arent just coming up with this Sh*t out of the air. They have included alll of the features required to be exactly like WoW without mounts (maybe).

This probably wont get read by most people because its filled with flaming, sorry for wasting ur time, but i need to get my frustration out about my dislikes.

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my question is, how are they going to implement this lvl cap restructure?

are they going to keep the exp gain the same as it is? or is the formula going to change now.

current max exp needed for next theoretical lvl/skill point is 15000 exp.

will that change?

also, the higher lvl you get, will you get more attribute points or "special skills"?

all questions that NEED to be answered imho.

Although I don't like a single thing I've read about GW2, in all honesty I can't see this part of GW changing.

Most people are too busy playing them to notice, but MMORPG games are actually intentionally designed to be addictive. Don't think for a moment that MMORPG designers aren't 100% aware of this fact. They're designing a digital drug, and they know how to do it.

It works like this: The game has to make you think you're going to get some fun out of it in just a minute, but it's not quiiiite fun yet. "I'll be so cool when I hit lvl50 and can ride a dragon! Just 18 more levels of boredom to go!" This is what keeps you playing, and when you play, you pay.

GW isn't like that, and if GW2 remains free of monthly charges, it won't be either.

Without monthly charges, they want you to get on, play for an hour, feel rewarded and happy so you keep buying new games, and then get the hell off their servers! ^_^

It's an entirely different design philosophy.

So, even with the incredibly stupid sounding changes like high level caps, I actually can't bring myself to think that GW2 will devolve into a total grind-fest.

I'm really excited for both GW:EN and GW2. It sounds like there are a lot of changes ahead, but I think thats a good thing. I've really enjoyed GW, and the style of play crafted by A-net was a great one, but I wouldn't say no to a new or modified experience. I'm pretty much guaranteed to by both games as soon as they come out.

However, for those who would prefer things to stay similar to how they are know, you probably shouldn't freak out too much. GW:EN and especially GW2 are fairly far away and huge changes could be made to both.

As I said before, I think GW2 is a great idea, and yes there can be more depth with a new engine and such.

I just want GW to stay unique in other ways than free/month.

2 years is a very long stretch with no new classes to work on and considering I can't bring my chars into GW2.

OF course we will have the human race. It says four NEW races. No, you cannot sign up for the beta now as Gaile has said. Its too far into the future.

I have the right to say what i feel so don´t question me cos i don´t know you from anywere dude.

Those are my opinions and im not afraid to talk about them.

Reread my post; you completely missed the point of it.

My point was that, after all these hours upon hours of building up the team, I have to start over the next time I buy a new version of the game. It's not something I want to do; on the contrary I would love to be able to continue my team, and sometimes avoid buying new versions of the game just so that I don't have to start over. People who play any genre of game care about starting over, but it's just how most video games are.

Funny cause im pretty sure there have been many people saying tehy dont mind the change, so you are being pretty ignorent there.

and as for wow, yes it is a stupid comparison, why? because most things that wow does isnt new. haveing races isnt making it like wow, cause many games before wow had races. many games before wow had high level caps.

that would be like saying star wars is like lord of the rings cause the main characters are fighting against evil.

I dont know why people are cribbing somuch about characters!! I mean continue playing GW1 till you or the servers drop dead(both which I do not wish to happen!!).ALso, the best part about the pricing structure from GW is that you can buy a bad campaign and just stop playing the game. You can discard it like trash or give it to a friend who cares & continue on your merry way with GW1. I mean frankly you have the option of not playing which is the singe biggest factor for this game's popularity bar none & I really believe that.
Now, as to how long will the servers last honestly I don't know but Gaile said that will continue for more time and frankly I don't see anything wrong with the amount of entertainment value these games have given me. At the end of the day that's what they are--Entertainment.
I am sorry to see some of the admins all pissed off at the mention of GW2 but to be honest exercise your right and don't buy. I on the other hand will buy this game and frankly this game is one of the best Value for Money I have ever got & I am sure that it will continue to be so.
The game will be different and a lot of people will hate it or like it but the fact of the matter is that this game is Anets baby and they have all the right to present it the way they think is fun and entertaining as much as it is your right not to buy it!
Meanwhile, can Gaile please specify more details about exact release dates for GW:EN . Seriously what the hell is Holiday 2007. Since I am currently unemployed and just out of college every day is a holiday!! So some details on that will be greatly appreciated, also I am sure you will not be breaking any rules by telling us that since the PCGamer article does not mention the exact date.

Sorry for being so blatant, what i meant by that was.. nobody in the GW community wants to ditch there characters.

Didn't see this discussed yet...

To get the Asura mini-pet do you take part in a mini-quest or what?

Do you have to buy the expansion or wait for some date or do you get the pet now?

Will the expansion give you new character slots?