"Upon reaching the New World, Cortez burned all his ships. As a result his crew was well-motivated."
I'd like to thank the OP for his summary and several of the subsequent posters for thoughtful, well-considered comments.
I also want to thank Arenanet for a year and half of compelling gaming in the context of a deeply imagined and original world with a level of software reliability that is exceptional for any industry. The truth is many of us owe them much more than they will ever know.
For now, I'll reserve comment on Eye of the North or Guild Wars 2. I haven't seen the article yet and don't have sufficient information to even begin forming an opinion of their plans. Nevertheless, I have a question, that those who have read the article may be able to answer, and a couple of requests/suggestions for Guild Wars 2.
First the question: what I've read so far seems mostly a laundry list of features, some of which appear to address developing features/experiences similar to those in the current WOW release, "Burning Crusade." Beyond that has any over-arching theme or narrative been revealed? Is there anything that can be deduced about the aesthetic ambiance of Guild Wars 2 that can be deduced from any of the published imagery?
And the requests:
1) All three chapters of Guild Wars 1 strove to make narrative and history a meaningful and compelling element of the gaming experience, which I strongly applaud. My hope and request is that the team not abandon that strategy. No MMORPG has yet to even begin to tap the potential that is there.
2) GW2 is a new game, and, as previous posters have identified, will likely have professions and character aspects that are so different from GW1 that transferring characters would be nearly impossible. Nevertheless, it is my hope and request the Arenanet will give careful consideration to what could be done to provide coherence for the diligent, supportive players of the first franchise. Issues such as name transference, unique armor, unique heraldry and bonus weapons all deserve careful consideration.
For my part, I intend to follow GW2's development with care and wish the Arenanet team god's speed and good luck.
PC Gamer May 2007 Information - "Guild Wars Reborn"
HalPlantagenet
garethporlest18
I'd be happy that the gas car was cancelled and that I have my new hydrogen car because it saves money and doesn't donate to greenhouse gases actually El.
I put a lot of time into this game and I could careless. Guild Wars 2 is brand new, has nothing to do with Guild Wars and our characters from Guild Wars shouldn't be there. Lore connects, that is all.
I put a lot of time into this game and I could careless. Guild Wars 2 is brand new, has nothing to do with Guild Wars and our characters from Guild Wars shouldn't be there. Lore connects, that is all.
Kisuro
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Tell me this...What is the point of playing Guild wars now if GW2 is coming out? Because if I start playing GW2, why would I continue to play GW1? Therefore, completely making GW1 useless.
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0siris
I'm sorry if this was mentioned already, but reading through 45 pages of pure flamage is something I really don't feel like doing...
What happened to the "expansions every 6 months" and "we're in this for the long-haul" Gaile?
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What happened to the "expansions every 6 months" and "we're in this for the long-haul" Gaile?
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Ninja Spectre
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I don't claim to be "correct" in any sense, this is a company doing what it wants, although I am complaining. Amount of chapters? Thats a good question, to be honest no one expected it to last forever, although streaming updates would have made sense to me for longer then the few years it has been around. I am also not disapointed that GW2 is coming, I just hate what GW2 is about. Nullified PvP, Redundant efforts, and obviously more to come ridiculous complications. Anet can barely handle this game at the moment, so the best solution is to ditch it? Then also hope its entire customer base follows the new game where very little incentive is?
This isn't just about the chapters people were expecting, it's about the ingame updates. I would assume over 90% never made it past "half way done boss!" 4 things that would make me stop complaining entirely: 1) Huge discount when entering all 4 previous game keys online. If you seriously can't transfer characters for w/e BS reason you can come up with, honor this. 2) Any extra's purchased such as character slots, remove them from GW1 and place them into GW2. 3) Attempt to make this game balanced, I mean seriously. Look at overpowered skills and underpowered ones. Get a feel for what you think is right, an average GvG match should last 15 minutes. Not 3-4 min when you see teams filled with Grenth dervish's and SF eles. 4) Every single thing you promised to place into GW1, I want to see better in GW2. If there is no auction house, FoW/UW, No ridiculous PvP over PvE control then any other game on the market now is better. You talk alot of junk for what I posted. I have supported Anet since the start, I don't mention anywhere how I speak for the majority. Especially the silent, but I'm also sure you can take that mustasche and read some other posts if it didn't poke your eyes out. Any huge corporation that just completely busts out in BS(someone said microsoft, at least they come up half arsed.) you might as well point to Enron, because this is seriously looking like a similar situation. A few wrong moves, and BS tries to get them out of the whole. |
TsunamiTykunade
I, for one, am glad that AreaNet are removing the camaign based gameplay- It has got repetitive and to be honest, rather dull.
I think that GW:EN and GW2 sound great. Ive always loved the idea of playable races and higher level caps, it adds depth to the game and makes it more enjoyable. I doubt ANet will make grinding a problem. I highly doubt that just by increasing the level cap; or indeed completely abolishing it, will make Guildwars the same as WoW at all.
So enough of this "Oh w7fz0rz, welcome to world of guildcraft" If you notice, nobody said you had to get GW2, to carry on playing. And nobody siad that ANet were going to stop updating GW1. I personally think leaving a great game because of a sequal is stupid and to be honest, rather childish.
So please, everyone, stop complaining and see guildwars for what it really is: A great game. And goodluck ANet
-Tsunami-
I think that GW:EN and GW2 sound great. Ive always loved the idea of playable races and higher level caps, it adds depth to the game and makes it more enjoyable. I doubt ANet will make grinding a problem. I highly doubt that just by increasing the level cap; or indeed completely abolishing it, will make Guildwars the same as WoW at all.
So enough of this "Oh w7fz0rz, welcome to world of guildcraft" If you notice, nobody said you had to get GW2, to carry on playing. And nobody siad that ANet were going to stop updating GW1. I personally think leaving a great game because of a sequal is stupid and to be honest, rather childish.
So please, everyone, stop complaining and see guildwars for what it really is: A great game. And goodluck ANet
-Tsunami-
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This game will just be like every other MMO ever created, except free and with cheap servers.
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I also agree that they should have announced GW:EN a lot earlier; I'm sure it will have some interesting content but I don't want to get too excited about it since it really is 'the end' of GW as such. Sure they will keep the servers running, but with no new content the game will get stale and people will stop playing.
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I'm sorry if this was mentioned already, but reading through 45 pages of pure flamage is something I really don't feel like doing...
What happened to the "expansions every 6 months" and "we're in this for the long-haul" Gaile? garbage |
besides, gaile has stated before that they never once agreed to a 6 month release schedule, that was player rumour that got out of hand
Kisuro
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I never said that, quite the contrary. My point is that this game is far superior than most other games in terms of game balance and mechanics, and had the potential to turn into a highly respected competitive game, yet it was marketed towards cheap PvEers, and is now turning into a cheaper version of WoW. That is my main complaint.
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Do you want to play a cheap WoW or a free unique PvE game that can be played both casually and competitively.
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The OP, maybe you should read it.
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Kityn
I am just not understanding why people are getting so upset over a game that will not even be out for another 2 years? For one thing we do not know even 1/10th of what this game is about,and yet people are acting like fools. The constant comparisons to WoW are just idiotic. From what I have read there is absolutely no comparison at all.
As for the level cap. A level 70 is not better than a level 30. Sure that level 70 may have access to some skills and some nice looking armors and or weapons. But that would not make that level 70 more powerful. Guild Wars has always been about skill over grind. GW2 will be the same.
As for races. Races have been in RPGs since the pen & paper RPGS of 20 and 30 years ago. WoW has nothing to do with it. RPG companies found out long ago that playing the same race over and over again would eventually lead to boredom. Races added spice to the moment for roleplayers. The way they would react to each other would be far differant in the way two humans would act. From a roleplayers point of view,Guild Wars needs playable races.
Here is a game that many of us love playing and yet many of these same people are unwilling to trust Anet. That makes no sense what so ever. Give Anet and their Dev team a break for gods sake. Just wait before making fools out of yourselves, at least untill we know more than 1/10th of what GW2 is about.
As for the level cap. A level 70 is not better than a level 30. Sure that level 70 may have access to some skills and some nice looking armors and or weapons. But that would not make that level 70 more powerful. Guild Wars has always been about skill over grind. GW2 will be the same.
As for races. Races have been in RPGs since the pen & paper RPGS of 20 and 30 years ago. WoW has nothing to do with it. RPG companies found out long ago that playing the same race over and over again would eventually lead to boredom. Races added spice to the moment for roleplayers. The way they would react to each other would be far differant in the way two humans would act. From a roleplayers point of view,Guild Wars needs playable races.
Here is a game that many of us love playing and yet many of these same people are unwilling to trust Anet. That makes no sense what so ever. Give Anet and their Dev team a break for gods sake. Just wait before making fools out of yourselves, at least untill we know more than 1/10th of what GW2 is about.
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I agree completly. I see little to differenciate the game between anything else on offer.
I also agree that they should have announced GW:EN a lot earlier; I'm sure it will have some interesting content but I don't want to get too excited about it since it really is 'the end' of GW as such. Sure they will keep the servers running, but with no new content the game will get stale and people will stop playing. |
I'm sick of you people speculating that this is going to be an original game and just like any other MMO, because it won't be.
CR3AT0R
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Seriously, some of you really need to get a grip. You are complaining about features that are going into a game that is still AT LEAST 2 YEARS AWAY FROM GOING GOLD!!!!! Hell, the beta doesn't even drop for probably a year. Alot can, and probably will, change in that time. You all just need to relax.
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El Panty Bandito
My point is, why continue to work/ build up your characters in Guild Wars now if you know for a fact they will be useless in 2 years or so time? Who really cares about a Hall of Monuments? Are people going to sit there and go, wow this guy worked really hard. Lets talk about him for hours! no....
Inde
I'll remind everyone again. Please keep your comments constructive, on topic and contributing. Do not spam, post one-liners or engage in flamewars or leave insulting comments (whether to another person or the community as a whole) in your posts.
HalPlantagenet
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As a guru Mod (Green = mod?), this comment shocks me completely
besides, gaile has stated before that they never once agreed to a 6 month release schedule, that was player rumour that got out of hand |
Ms. Gray's subsequent comments were clearly revisionist. And that's all beside the point, now. "Welcome to the real world."
Miss Persephone
I really think ANet enjoy this, releasing half bits of information and causing much uproar. A thirteen page article, yes, but it doesn't address the most important ones people have.
The death knoll has sounded for GW1...no auction house, no more emotes, no changing appearances, all these things we've asked for for a very long time. Instead BUY OUR NEW GAME to experience all these great features. Cunning, oh yes, very cunning indeed. You will note how they 'listened to the players' to see what they wanted improved...but only very selectively.
The death knoll has sounded for GW1...no auction house, no more emotes, no changing appearances, all these things we've asked for for a very long time. Instead BUY OUR NEW GAME to experience all these great features. Cunning, oh yes, very cunning indeed. You will note how they 'listened to the players' to see what they wanted improved...but only very selectively.
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Have you ever thought that ppl dont want to play GW anymore because they dontwant to put so much time into somthing thats going to go to shit in 2 years?
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Smurf Minions
They will not stop updating GW1, look at how few players lineage 2 still has after years, but they're still updating it. So they won't stop updating GW as every other mmo that still haves enough players will be updated.
Tark Alkerk
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My point is, why continue to work/ build up your characters in Guild Wars now if you know for a fact they will be useless in 2 years or so time? Who really cares about a Hall of Monuments? Are people going to sit there and go, wow this guy worked really hard. Lets talk about him for hours! no....
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why should you even start playing the game because in five or so years time the servers are going to close?
why should buy a house, because the chances are that it might get knockdown in a few years time by freak wrecking ball accident?
genesis and decay...
Kisuro
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My point is, why continue to work/ build up your characters in Guild Wars now if you know for a fact they will be useless in 2 years or so time? Who really cares about a Hall of Monuments? Are people going to sit there and go, wow this guy worked really hard. Lets talk about him for hours! no....
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Shmanka
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That's where Guild Wars 2 comes in. If you don't like Guild Wars 2, then too bad so sad for you. That's life, and well we don't mind if you move on to something else.
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Lonesamurai
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I respectfully disagree. The source of the 6-month strategy was a clearly identified Arenanet representative (Jeff Strain?) in a published interview. I posted the comment and a reference on an earlier thread here. Do a Web search.
Ms. Gray's subsequent comments were clearly revisionist. And that's all beside the point, now. "Welcome to the real world." |
My point however, was that it was never mentioned in any original press release, or any press release from the company as part of the business model, nor did anyone but jeff Strain mention it... So, who screwed up and who lied? IMHO as both a player and someone whos trying to cover this clusterf**k froma media point of view, its jeff strain who either lied, or said something the community wanted to hear to bolster sales and opinion...
ANet onviously are sticking with it for the long haul, as they are adding elements to fuse the two games together... hell, the more you guys try and piss on it, the more stoked I'm actually getting about GWEN and GW2
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Have you ever thought that ppl dont want to play GW anymore because they dontwant to put so much time into somthing thats going to go to shit in 2 years?
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All that matters is that you had fun playing the game, after all, that's what a game is all about, and as well as that, we've been told that our achievements will go into this "Hall Of Monuments" anyway, so it's not like they'll be forgotten.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like the fact my character can't go to GW2 either, but at least what he has accomplished will.
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I'm sorry if this was mentioned already, but reading through 45 pages of pure flamage is something I really don't feel like doing...
What happened to the "expansions every 6 months" and "we're in this for the long-haul" Gaile? garbage |
I dun't really see what u mean by "garbage"
The game is still Guild wars... The only thing is that Anet has decided to go to the next level because the current Guild war is actually becoming old
The game itself is still going to be guild wars...
As for those crying and whining that the level cap is gonna make GW becomes a WoW clone, they are just jumping the gun and being short-sighted.
It is was too early to start saying that GW is doom. From the developpers that have managed to created a unique genre in MMO, i think they know better what to do ...and am not surprised that when GW2 comes out, those who are saying that GW is "doomed" will be ones of the 1st to buy the game within the 1st week...
From the info from the Op, i can only think that Anet has finally decided to divide the game at last! Seperate the PvE and PVP community is for the best! All the usual whining on Guru betweeen PvE and PvP ppl will finally be put at rest
I am sure Anet knows the importance of balance in PVP and that they know full well what they are doing... i am thinking that they are gonna make the pvp limited to 20 and unlimited level cap in Pve...and so when u take ur pve char to pvp, he goes back to level20 limit for balance issues... or even PvE char not allowed in pvp/gvg...
As for the partly instanced map, i'm guessing the missions are still gonna be instanced and that once upon a time, a big boss will pop up and that the community will have to fight them... fight the mad king maybe for halloween event
and i dun't really see the point of taking ur char from GW1 to GW2... it will cause more bad than good IMO...
anyway, i am very enthusiastic about the new GW
Ishamael Rahvin
The game is gonna get better with GW 2 I beleive, i'm just worying about keeping peoples intrest for 2 years. I have my guild and that's enough for me but as for most itchy gamers who knows.
Miss Persephone
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That's where Guild Wars 2 comes in. If you don't like Guild Wars 2, then too bad so sad for you. That's life, and well we don't mind if you move on to something else.
I'm sick of you people speculating that this is going to be an original game and just like any other MMO, because it won't be. |
I realise it's a different game. But I'm not feeling at all reassured that it will appeal to the same playerbase. And if thats the case, why call it GW2 at all? Why not make it a whole new series? Its not that hard to invent some new history and lore.
Dark Dragon
I play GW to have fun, its annoying that i might lose my players progress, but maybe as i played final fantasy (1 to 10-2) and chrono cross more than any other game pre-GW, i'm not finding that bad. I've spent so many countless hours playing games and all there progress normally vanishes eventually.
At least with my GW characters i've had over a year of fun, and probably more. I thank Anet for creating such a great game.
for those who make it seem like your characters are the most important things to you, let me remind you no-matter what game you play your characters WILL eventually fade into nothingness and there is nothing you can do about it.
i suggest you move on, to another game or GW2 when it is released, but remember the good times GW has given you.
To others who say they are going to stop playing GW because they've "wasted" so much time and don't what to "waste" more time on there chars when they are going to be worthless. well what did you expect?? If you think you have wasted your time with GW then you probably have i've wasted lots of hours on GW but in exchange i've had alot of fun and good memories.
Maybe your characters will never die as long as the memory of then lives on.
Dark
At least with my GW characters i've had over a year of fun, and probably more. I thank Anet for creating such a great game.
for those who make it seem like your characters are the most important things to you, let me remind you no-matter what game you play your characters WILL eventually fade into nothingness and there is nothing you can do about it.
i suggest you move on, to another game or GW2 when it is released, but remember the good times GW has given you.
To others who say they are going to stop playing GW because they've "wasted" so much time and don't what to "waste" more time on there chars when they are going to be worthless. well what did you expect?? If you think you have wasted your time with GW then you probably have i've wasted lots of hours on GW but in exchange i've had alot of fun and good memories.
Maybe your characters will never die as long as the memory of then lives on.
Dark
Kityn
The 6 month plan. It is a plan,not a promise. Plans change. Guild Wars apparently can not be what everyone wants it to be. All kinds of features has been stuffed into this game and it has to be close to bursting. We all wanted an Auction House and this and that,ect ect. Well Anet has done a great job putting in as much as possible. But GW just was not designed to handle all of these things. With GW2 all of these things will be possible along with movement controls that people have been asking about. What people are not understanding here is that GW2 is a player feedback created game. Look at previous postings on what people would like to see in GW. You will see a pattern. GW is not able to handle what people want. It was never designed to do that. GW2 is an upgraded version of GW. Not a rehash of another MMO.
The Pocky Alchemist
[puts soapbox away] No, no, this time I'm not going to talk about how negative and pessimistic people are on this forum...
I'm looking forward to it. ArenaNet is moving forward, not backwards. They are not fools.
By laying aside the GW1 code in favor of a reinvented game, they're able to create something different and unique. R&D takes time and energy. They wouldn't waste their resources on making a copy of any other game. Especially not WoW.
For me, there are but two real worries:
Other than that, great job ANet. I'm glad you decided not to beat a dead horse. Your devs need room to breathe, and a whole new version of the game is a perfect place to do it. Kudos. Don't let us down!
And thanks to Guru for being THE PREMIERE FORUM for GW/2 info!
I'm looking forward to it. ArenaNet is moving forward, not backwards. They are not fools.
By laying aside the GW1 code in favor of a reinvented game, they're able to create something different and unique. R&D takes time and energy. They wouldn't waste their resources on making a copy of any other game. Especially not WoW.
For me, there are but two real worries:
- Character names! Someone else mentioned this earlier, but it's worth repeating. Can we please reserve our names for the new system? It seems straightforward, but it's probably an easy feature to overlook. Sentimental value, you know.
- Skillbars! I don't know if GW2 will have a 10-slot skillbar or something. That may be good. But that'll be a lot of buttons. It might be tougher to do my awesome "Target Self-Reversal of Fortune-Target Ally-Gift of Health-Target Self" keyboard combo anymore, and I love it.
Other than that, great job ANet. I'm glad you decided not to beat a dead horse. Your devs need room to breathe, and a whole new version of the game is a perfect place to do it. Kudos. Don't let us down!
And thanks to Guru for being THE PREMIERE FORUM for GW/2 info!
Monk Gsb
i will continue to play gw and i will buy both GWEN and GW2..... as long as there is no stupid "cartoon" like graphics that WoW has. i just cant w8 for a week after gw2 to come out so i can sit in observe mode watching all the stupid builds and rank 1million guilds winning hall's lol
Stoneys Rock
it all seems very good I'm sooooo buying gw2 when it comes out. =D can't wait for arena-net to post new news about it.
and 1 more thing....theres no human characters? O___o;;; ._. wonder whats happened to the humans...^^;;
and 1 more thing....theres no human characters? O___o;;; ._. wonder whats happened to the humans...^^;;
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They will not stop updating GW1, look at how few players lineage 2 still has after years, but they're still updating it. So they won't stop updating GW as every other mmo that still haves enough players will be updated.
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People have to PAY to play Lineage 1. That means that as long as people are paying enough to support the game, the game will be supported.
GW is free, except for expansions. Do you honestly think they'll make an expansion that ends GW1 and ties it directly into GW2, and then continue to make more?
Do you think they'll make more GW1 expansions after GW2 is live?
So what happens to GW1 servers, with absolutely no income? Well, someone wisely said that money from GW2 success can fund it. What if GW2 bombs, and everyone stays in GW1?
Even if GW2 is a huge success, where do you think Anet's effort will be focussed?
Gaile has said that they will certainly continue supporting GW1. I'm sure they will, but "support" is a very vague word. I'd bet money that it won't mean, "continue to improve, balance, and expand".
I used to give them the benefit of the doubt, and believe her, but well, I remember this guy named Charlie Brown, and this girl named Lucy, and this football...
garethporlest18
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What kind of argument is this, 'too bad so sad'? If ANet had this kind of ethos they would be lacking a fanbase of any sort. I love GW because of many of the things that make it unique and different to other MMOs, and I would like to continue playing a game like it. From what I've seen thus far, there is little continuation of the things that made GW attractive in the first place, and a big move towards things offered in any other MMO. Loyalty to ANet is not enough to make me purchase a new game from them.
I realise it's a different game. But I'm not feeling at all reassured that it will appeal to the same playerbase. And if thats the case, why call it GW2 at all? Why not make it a whole new series? Its not that hard to invent some new history and lore. |
Guild Wars is about non needed grind, there's tons of grind in the game, but you don't need to do that to get better. Guild Wars 2 will be like that I'm fairly sure. But with a better PvE this time around. Which will keep me a customer, because Guild Wars PvE gets lacking after a while.
Also Guild Wars' player base is diverse, and we really don't know where the majority lies right now, so we can't talk about how Guild Wars will end. Because I've talked about it some in game and seen people happy about it and seen people upset about it. It seems the same here.
Shmanka: It sounds like a great game to me so far, so I'm going to say how I feel about it. Be it early or not.
raven214
I really don't understand why everyone is so hot and bothered. I, for one, am really excited about GW's future. GW:EN is what I'm really focusing on for now. GW2 is incredibly far off and has a lot of design and gameplay hurdles and decisions yet to cross.
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If you don't want to play GW anymore, why are you still here... i.e., why aren't you off playing/doing something else? Last I checked, no one was forcing you to play GW -- there isn't even a monthly fee to make you feel obligated to play. And why is everything going to crap in 2 years? You do realize this is a game, right? Our characters are just for fun... they aren't real. Do you expect them to live on some server forever, always ready to play the same missions over and over again?
I pretty much gave up my social life for Diablo 1 and 2, but am I crying that my characters aren't around anymore, that I don't play those games anymore, or that I spent so much time virtually living in those games? No... it would be immature and unrealistic to do so. I prefer to fondly look back on the experiences I had and the people I met.
I look at it like I'll continue playing GW until I don't feel like it. I will certainly get GW:EN and I'll see where things are when GW2 comes around. Until then, I'll just keep on keeping on.
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If you don't want to play GW anymore, why are you still here... i.e., why aren't you off playing/doing something else? Last I checked, no one was forcing you to play GW -- there isn't even a monthly fee to make you feel obligated to play. And why is everything going to crap in 2 years? You do realize this is a game, right? Our characters are just for fun... they aren't real. Do you expect them to live on some server forever, always ready to play the same missions over and over again?
I pretty much gave up my social life for Diablo 1 and 2, but am I crying that my characters aren't around anymore, that I don't play those games anymore, or that I spent so much time virtually living in those games? No... it would be immature and unrealistic to do so. I prefer to fondly look back on the experiences I had and the people I met.
I look at it like I'll continue playing GW until I don't feel like it. I will certainly get GW:EN and I'll see where things are when GW2 comes around. Until then, I'll just keep on keeping on.
Charqus
Wow.... Just wow..... I can't wait and I'm letting like everyone know lol,
I hate being 46 pages late.....
This has probably been mentioned but I really CBA reading 46 pages, isn't GW Eye of the North and GWEN when abbreiviated abit of a coincidence?
I hate being 46 pages late.....
This has probably been mentioned but I really CBA reading 46 pages, isn't GW Eye of the North and GWEN when abbreiviated abit of a coincidence?
Windblade Ionic Z
Wow! I am interested in GW2! Where can I get a copy of just issue 161 of pc gamer?
Am I 47 pages late?
Am I 47 pages late?
0siris
What of all the efforts we have put into our characters? All the skill points we have farmed? Skills we have aquired? Titles we have attained? They expect us to forget about them and move on? Sure, they say that Gw1 will not be left behind, and they will continue to update it - but what good will the updates do when everyone will be off playing Gw2? <- that's what I think is garbage
I have put in many hours into guild wars over the last couple years, as have many of you I am sure. Some of you may not have a problem with leaving it all behind and moving on to greener pastures, but there are still some of us who are not comfortable with just giving it all up to start fresh.
and Lonesamurai, no I am not a mod. Just a contributor.
I have put in many hours into guild wars over the last couple years, as have many of you I am sure. Some of you may not have a problem with leaving it all behind and moving on to greener pastures, but there are still some of us who are not comfortable with just giving it all up to start fresh.
and Lonesamurai, no I am not a mod. Just a contributor.
rista blodorn
I am looking forward to seeing what ANET comes up with in GW2...just hope that GWEN has enough content and maybe a few last updates to keep interest in GW1 alive to tide us over to GW2. If not I'm sure I'll come back if GW2 looks like it will be as interesting as GW turned out to be.
Not being able to carry over characters is kind of a bummer but I don't see the time I have spent with those characters as "lost" or "wasted"...getting 2 or 3 years out of them seems pretty reasonable. I thought the point of the game was to play, not to plan on keeping my characters for the rest of my life. Plus I think it will be fun to create and develop new characters again.
I think the general player population will judge GW2 on what it has to offer.
Not being able to carry over characters is kind of a bummer but I don't see the time I have spent with those characters as "lost" or "wasted"...getting 2 or 3 years out of them seems pretty reasonable. I thought the point of the game was to play, not to plan on keeping my characters for the rest of my life. Plus I think it will be fun to create and develop new characters again.
I think the general player population will judge GW2 on what it has to offer.
Stoneys Rock
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Originally Posted by Rhedd
Um, I'm trying not to be negative here, really I am, but facts should still be stated.
People have to PAY to play Lineage 1. That means that as long as people are paying enough to support the game, the game will be supported. GW is free, except for expansions. Do you honestly think they'll make an expansion that ends GW1 and ties it directly into GW2, and then continue to make more? Do you think they'll make more GW1 expansions after GW2 is live? So what happens to GW1 servers, with absolutely no income? Well, someone wisely said that money from GW2 success can fund it. What if GW2 bombs, and everyone stays in GW1? Even if GW2 is a huge success, where do you think Anet's effort will be focussed? Gaile has said that they will certainly continue supporting GW1. I'm sure they will, but "support" is a very vague word. I'd bet money that it won't mean, "continue to improve, balance, and expand". I used to give them the benefit of the doubt, and believe her, but well, I remember this guy named Charlie Brown, and this girl named Lucy, and this football... |
of course arena net are going to favor guild wars 2 over the original series of games. Simply because it new, why would they bother to continue improving balancing and expanding a game if their not going to get anything from it. The fact they stated the servers alone will remain online shows they are at least letting people play the original guild wars games.
If they start charging monthly (which I doubt) for the original its not going to be much just enough to keep the servers alive I would guess and the others will either continue along the original, quit and play guild wars 2 which doesn't have monthly fees. Or do something else completely.
Quite frankly why didn't you already expect arena net is going to improve an obsolete series of games. There's no point. They would step in if a big problem arose though they're not ogres
The Pocky Alchemist
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Originally Posted by Monk Gsb
i will continue to play gw and i will buy both GWEN and GW2..... as long as there is no stupid "cartoon" like graphics that WoW has. i just cant w8 for a week after gw2 to come out so i can sit in observe mode watching all the stupid builds and rank 1million guilds winning hall's lol
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By the way. Question.
What's with this whole "We have to wait two whole years" thing!?
Eye of the North should be coming out around Christmas 2007. 2007 is, um... this year.
Guild Wars 2 should be starting open betas in 2008.
So... so you've got Christmas... and then like a week after Christmas is 2008... and then a few months later, I'd expect at least some word on the open beta, if not the open beta itself.
One year. Not two. One. Less than one, if your glasses are half full.