PayPal Poll

nossac

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

R/Rt

I have a PayPal account for occasional Ebay purchases but I find using my credit card easier..

I only use my PayPal account when there is no other option

Yggdrasil

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

"No, I would not use PayPal. (Please explain)"

I don't have a "good" explanation, I just don't trust/like them. I also will not buy online with a credit-card, unless absolutely necessary. Give me the option of cash and I will consider it (like getting a gift-card type thing at a store). Because my financial information is best kept safe by letting as few people as possible at it.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Looking at it, this isn't a good poll...I think...

What other sites is this poll being used at?

aaje vhanli

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

I have a credit card and have used it in the GW online store many times. I would rather not use Paypal because I would rather there be no middle man and support aNet with the full of my purchase. On the other hand, the online store is lacking of products so it doesn't matter.

Personette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

I voted for - "I have a credit card but would prefer to use paypal" - this is a little inaccurate. I would prefer to use the in-game store, but the last time I tried it was a DISASTER, it took me about a week and a half to make a purchase, and I got a lot of run around from "support."

Paypal is less convenient, but I have never had anything like that happen with paypal - it seems to be a more reliable service. So, given my previous experiences with the GW store (both good and bad), I would like to have another option.

So I'd probably try the store again, as a first option - but, would really, really like a fallback I can count on.

Shadow Kurd

Shadow Kurd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Netherlands

Scouts of Tyria

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_groovy
Don't have a cc, and i think i can speak for most people in holland. Paypal would be the way to go for me. So /signed for using paypal. (Or any other form of online credit which doesn't require you to get, and pay for a cc. Here in holland also ideal is used.).
See this is what i mean, in Holland only(which is a small country) we got tens of CC company's, can you image how much the rest of Europe has. PayPal supports ALL of them.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

would not use paypal:
I do prefer to use a credit card for proof of purchase and fraud protection in general. Also because I get points

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

I have a CC, and don't really have that many qualms about using it, but my PayPal account's sitting there rather unused and has money in it, so I'd go for that instead.

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Looking at it, this isn't a good poll...I think...

What other sites is this poll being used at?
I don't understand what you wanted to say, Gaile set the poll up fine.

Thunder79

Thunder79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chaos Rising

More Options are almost always better.

I use my Mastercard (can be used either as credit or debit)....but if I didn't have it I would want the option.

Perhaps Anet should also consider allowing mail order so people can send in stuff like money orders.

options options options...

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

I understand there's security risks with paypal and fees which aren't there with credit cards (and paypal doesn't work from debit cards in all countries) but it is definitely an option for those of us who don't have credit cards (my bank told me I wasn't earning enough to get one).

Also, this would be more for additional slots than for new installments of guildwars, as for new installments, I still enjoy hassling our local EB's


Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunder79
More Options are almost always better.

I use my Mastercard (can be used either as credit or debit)....but if I didn't have it I would want the option.

Perhaps Anet should also consider allowing mail order so people can send in stuff like money orders.

options options options...
Money Order is good.. now have a look at how much you get charged to send it overseas and what the cost of sending safely, via courier or mail, to its destination

greenthumb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

I most likely wouldn't use Paypal, but regardless of whether most people wouldn't use Paypal, the key question for ANet would be how many people who wouldn't use the online store would or might use the online store if ANet did accept Paypal. If that's significant, why not offer that flexibility?

As for higher costs, the percentage in fees to Paypal is most likely incredibly miniscule compared with the differential between wholesale and retail prices (for items being sold at retail). For any conversions from a retail purchase to an online purchase instead, that's potentially a much better return to ANet. For the most part, it's merely incremental licensing of an intellectual property license, so there's not much of a cost so a price-cost margin isn't even really at issue for those fees payable to Paypal being much of an issue (given that it's unlikely that those who would use credit cards with its own set of fees would instead use Paypal).

ANet should know it's market well enough already to figure out whether Paypal would appeal to a significant enough share of its market to be an option. It's an online entertainment service with customers with certain demographics across a broad age range.

Instead of a poll of how many or what percentage of players (who participate in the poll) would use Paypal, the more applicable baseline question should be how many players (or how much in revenues) need to purchase through the online store using Paypal (that otherwise wouldn't) to make it a worthwhile option for ANet to make it available as an option? If that's a low number, it's probably a no brainer (although not fully considering other possible issues that ANet might possibly have).

BladeDVD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Hawaii

Clan Of Elders

N/

Like others have already said, I only use PayPal when I have to (ie. they don't take credit cards directly).

But as long as it doesn't increase the cost of anything to me, I think it's great to offer more payment options to those who could use them.

Hou Lifu

Hou Lifu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Modus Operandi [MO]

I like using PayPal, it's very convenient and easy. I feel much safer giving out an email rather than a credit card number to be honest. So yes, I would definitely use PayPal to buy things in the online store rather than using a credit card.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
I don't understand what you wanted to say, Gaile set the poll up fine.
Well, I was trying to understand as well, and I've thought it through.

The question I see asking from the poll is "do you use PayPal?" It doesn't matter if I use it. It matters if people need to use it - and they only way you're going to find out if people need it is by scanning this thread, which has already grown to quite a few pages.

Let me ask you this: What is this poll hoping to achieve? What conclusions can you draw from this, and what can you use the results for?

The reason I asked if she was doing this on other sites was because it'd make more sense. Having a poll only at Guru for something like this is insignificant.

rohara

rohara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Rt/

paypal would be a good option for those who don't have a credit card. the only credit card i have is issued from paypal so uh, yeah

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

I do not use paypal unless there is no other choice - there is MUCH more fraud protection through my credit card than through PayPal.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

I don't have a paypal account

sassoonssamson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by =DNC=Trucker
I like using paypal for online/gaming stuff. It keeps my budget in line and my online activities separate (i.e. keeps GW out of my real life credit cards). I do have a CC that I have used to purchase 2 extra slots in the past, though.
exactly i agrre with you


all games realted stuff i process thru paypal

I dont like gaming stuff appearing on my credit card and then days explaining o wife why was it spend

please get paypal

u can make that verified papypal users cann only buy

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

I'm just against using Paypal because I have a credit card and I don't like having an unnecessary middleman involved. If Paypal was the only option, or I didn't have a credit card I'd use it (and I have done so previously).

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

1. I do not use the in-game store. The way it locks one's account login is an absolutely unacceptable security risk. I won't touch it until that is resolved.

2. I have a credit card. I've used paypal in the past. I have very little preference between them.

Kelsey Cain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

paypal are fine until things go wrong and then customer service is non existent. They will do whatever they want with your money and you have very little protection without resorting to court action.

I would rather mail cash in an envelope marked 'steal me' than use Paypal.

azrael-angel

azrael-angel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Sword Of Justice

W/N

i don't really understand the point of this, you have a credit card, which you need for GW store, yet you want paypal? which you still need a credit card for, i really don't understand how this is supposed to make sense..

i have used the guilwars store for a char slots and the bonus weps pack, and its fine as it is

i use paypal for ebay as its quick and convenient and safe, but for GW?, why is it needed? if it will raise prices of the items in the store for a saved, what, 2 minutes?, i say god no

Stormcloud

Stormcloud

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Oregon, USA

Quote:
Originally Posted by azrael-angel
i don't really understand the point of this, you have a credit card, which you need for GW store, yet you want paypal? which you still need a credit card for, i really don't understand how this is supposed to make sense..

i have used the guilwars store for a char slots and the bonus weps pack, and its fine as it is

i use paypal for ebay as its quick and convenient and safe, but for GW?, why is it needed? if it will raise prices of the items in the store for a saved, what, 2 minutes?, i say god no
you do not need a credit card to open and use paypal first of all.
secondly people who do not have credit cards or have cards that simply dont qualify to anets billing system would have a new option for purchasing online.

agrios

agrios

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

South America

Naked Stalkers of America[Nude]

W/

I use CC. Paypal would make things harder to me. If they want to add a paypal option for ppl who doesnt have a CC its fine, but leave the CC option.

Stormcloud

Stormcloud

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Oregon, USA

Its all about adding options not taking them away have no fear agrios

Hatamoto

Hatamoto

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

PhD

W/

I have a paypal account and a credit card. I honestly just don't like paypal. Adding as another option would not be a bad idea, but making it the only way would be rather disappointing.

Foxeye

Foxeye

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/A

I have a very poor opinion of Paypal and their policies, and so I try to avoid them as much as possible. I only use them when no other option is provided to me (including the option of using a different vendor).

Arren Knez

Arren Knez

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

south of somewhere

Dominion of Passi [PaSI]

i don't want to deal with paypal, i would rather just pay with a credit card

shnoopx

shnoopx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Germany

??? Guild? Whats that?

Mo/W

Hiho.

Im from the german Elite-Fansite Guild-Wars.Info.

I dont use Pay Pal.
Why? Because i nee a Credit Card at the most of the online Stores to buy something. If i need a CC for Pay Pal, i could use the CC without Pay Pal, to buy something. It would be the same than now. I cant get a CC, so i cant buy anything without a CC outside of Germany. ^^

I prefer the Pay Safe Card System. Its really easy and u can get the Cards everywhere.

No, i dont like Pay Pal. ^^

Greez shnoopx

Darkhorse

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Me/A

Would never use it because I would never use the online store if I had a choice.

Kashrlyyk

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Looking at it, this isn't a good poll...I think...

What other sites is this poll being used at?
You know what they say: "I don´t trust any statistics, that I didn´t fake myself!"

Wrath of m0o

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

I have to agree, i have wanted to buy from the online store, but after 1/2 way through the registration, i quit. It really seems like they want way to much info about me. Plus, i never buy software online, im the kinda guy that wants back-up disks in my hand so i dont have to download the entire game if i need to reinstall on another rig.

As with paypal, you dont need a CC to get a paypal account. Alot of people feel safer buying online without your CC number. You can open a paypal account with a blank check or even just your checking account or savings account info.

Yes. I do have a CC but i would prefer to use Paypal.

Bowman Artemis

Bowman Artemis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Gold Coast, Australia.

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

I have paypal, but I'd prefer to just use my Credit Card, faster and no middleman. I voted No.

Muspellsheimr

Muspellsheimr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quite a few people here don't seem to realize a few things, so I will (in probably a futile effort) try to explain this.


First, this poll is designed to determine if adding, NOT replace with, PayPal as a payment option for the store would be worthwhile.

Second, PayPal does NOT require a credit card. The only requirement for PayPal is internet access, and a bank account (or other source of funds).

It would be nice if one of the mods could edit this, or something similar, into Gaile's OP, so a few people would stop making retarded and uneducated posts...

I Will Heal You Ally

I Will Heal You Ally

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

In my HoM

Canthan Refugees [TOGO]

E/Rt

Liek you said "majority of those who use PayPal have a credit card" why complicating things when this is very easy to use. Leave it this way. You're doing greta job ^_^

Perynne

Perynne

Site Contributor

Join Date: Oct 2006

Finland

Runners of the Rose [RR]

R/

I don't have a credit card. I don't quite like the idea of PayPal, but since I don't have any other way to pay in the GW online store I would definitely use PayPal for purchases there if the option for it was available.

CDittric77

CDittric77

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

A Famous Small Town in PA

Saints of Avalon

R/Mo

No middle man = more money for Anet.

J snukka

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New York

i voted no, i use a credit card for online purchases and creating a paypal account would slow my purshases down. I prefer using credit in the online-store.

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

I wouldn't use paypal, for pretty much all the same reasons that have been brought up. To use paypal, you already need to have a credit card. Using paypal on the NC Store just seems pointless to me.

Just a few hours ago I purchased the Game of the Year Edition weapons upgrade for my account. I use PayPal for eBay, bit I can't even begin to understand why some people would want to use it for this.