PayPal Poll - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

lakatz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

10 Jul 2007 at 00:50 - 201

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurse With Wound

PayPal is selling email adresses to ad companies. I will never use it.

Only if you let them. I don't get any spam generated by PayPal or their 'partners', and that's because I specified I don't want any in 'My Account' and the notification preferences. You can do this with vendors that you set up accounts with as well. Just read their privacy policies and follow their simple instructions to opt out of information sharing.

The statement below is from the PayPal Privacy Policy page:

Quote:

How you can restrict PayPal from sharing your personal information

Federal and state laws allow you to restrict the sharing of your personal information in certain instances. However, these laws also state that you cannot restrict other types of sharing. Because we have chosen to refrain from certain types of data sharing, the only type of sharing of your personal information that you may restrict is as follows:

If you do not want PayPal to share your personal information with other financial institutions for the purpose of marketing our jointly offered products to you, please log in to your account and uncheck the box in the Information Sharing section of the Notifications and Information Sharing page. This page can be accessed by going to the Profile subtab under the My Account tab.

You can also control how we use your contact information to market our services to you in the notifications preferences.

http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr...rivacy-outside

kyrasantae

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada

Echo of Darkness [EOD]

Rt/

10 Jul 2007 at 00:52 - 202

I don't have a credit card or a paypal account and don't intend to get either anytime soon, but I would support the availability of a paypal payment option.

...I'm still waiting for a way to gift items from the online store to friends, and a way to buy character slots in retail stores.

Laenavesse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Shadow Tower

A/

10 Jul 2007 at 01:02 - 203

I have a credit card, but it's currently joined with my parents. So I prefer to pay all my online purchases with PayPal, anything from retail is either cash or credit card (thank you daddy <3 xD). This is the only reason why I haven't bought any extra characters slots from the store. I need paypal D:

Edit:

By the way, businesses will get your information. Anything can be sold from any place. The only things they cannot know are what you check out from the library and video rentals :O

Theosebes

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

10 Jul 2007 at 01:15 - 204

I still think that electronic check/western union electronic check is a good alternative since a lot of people don't like PayPal.

Qual

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark, Karup.

[PuG]

W/E

10 Jul 2007 at 01:20 - 205

IMO the way to buy the bonus pack is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing shit, and I will not use PayPal to buy anything from playNC, I prefer to buy my things at play.com with my credit card.

Warskull

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2005

[out]

10 Jul 2007 at 01:58 - 206

Paypal tends to be quite untrustworthy. I prefer to stay as far away from it as possible.

Alaris

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

R/N

10 Jul 2007 at 03:35 - 207

You asked to explain, so I will.

I've used Paypal before, and I like the service. I do have my own credit cards as well. With known companies, I prefer to use credit cards directly, but with companies I don't know as well, I prefer to use Paypal.

Since I trust ANet, I would use credit.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

10 Jul 2007 at 04:49 - 208

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warskull

Paypal tends to be quite untrustworthy. I prefer to stay as far away from it as possible.

Could you provide more information? I've been using PayPal for years, with narry a problem. What specifically is "untrustworthy?"

As we are discussing this, I'd really like to be sure I have all the valuable information that is available, so please do share your thoughts and concerns.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rehnahvah Gahro

Automatic debit transfer system or SMS would be the way you could make most money here in Europe / make most people happy.

Don't SMS systems take a 100% fee? So something that costs 30 Euros would cost 60?

Lady Ana Stacia

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Germany

Beware of our Temper [BooT]

Me/

10 Jul 2007 at 05:00 - 209

We don't use credit cards, and as the dutch have yet to figure out what visa debit cards or prepaid visa's/mastercard are PayPal would be our only option. Would definitely use the online store if that was an alternative.

free_fall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

10 Jul 2007 at 06:38 - 210

I have a C/C (well, a debit card with the M/C logo) so I don't need to use PayPal.

If Anet feels they're losing some business by not offerring PayPal then, by all means, add it.

Ascarion

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

Berlin, Germany

Die Ritter des Phoenix

E/

10 Jul 2007 at 07:29 - 211

I really like PayPal. I would not give anyone allowance to directly book the money from my bank account. With PayPal I have a middle, that is trustworthy. (at least in my eyes) I have never had any problems with PayPal. They never send me emails only if I buy something. I have never gotten any emails from any of their affiliates.
If there was the possibility to buy things in the in-game store with PayPal, I would buy there.

Ah and btw: I do not have a CC. Its absolutely not necessary to have one in Germany. And I'm definitely not going to buy one for the in-game store.
As for SMS: I made bad experience with that and would not use that service either.

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

10 Jul 2007 at 08:13 - 212

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Could you provide more information? I've been using PayPal for years, with narry a problem. What specifically is "untrustworthy?"

As we are discussing this, I'd really like to be sure I have all the valuable information that is available, so please do share your thoughts and concerns.
..

The fact that they send my informations to the home security ministry???

The fact that if they think I am even in the most remotely way connected to terrorism, aka I have a name that sounds like the name of a person that could be a terrorist, PayPal closes my account. And in order to reopen a closed account, regardless of the reason for the closure, you have to send them your gas and electric bill and other personal informations?
Yes, the last sentence actually happened in Germany.

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

10 Jul 2007 at 08:25 - 213

I vote No, I would not use PayPal. (Please explain)

explanation: not comfortable doing any dealings that has to reveal identity of money transfer what-so-ever

wouldn't mind going to the local bank to do money transfers and such or sending a check.

ps: I would think a lot of players from my part of the world don't have or don't use paypal or don't have means of doing any money transfers online. Anet could probably set up a deal with our local GW agents that we may pay them and give them our accounts information.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

10 Jul 2007 at 10:11 - 214

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Ana Stacia

We don't use credit cards, and as the dutch have yet to figure out what visa debit cards or prepaid visa's/mastercard are PayPal would be our only option. Would definitely use the online store if that was an alternative.

Ah, but you have Pin Card's... those can be used online and for big transactions... we call them Debit cards here in the UK

(and yes i did my research and asked my three dutch guildies)
and meastro is now an option in the ingame store, so no worries about the 11 digit code

Cirian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European Union

The Amazon Basin

10 Jul 2007 at 12:22 - 215

I voted no. I have a credit card registered with Paypal and I have used them successfully, but I will not register my bank details with them.

The last time I tried to use Paypal it locked me into a card registration page with no way out... which was wierd. It's like it wouldn't let me continue even though they had my credit card details, registering the same credit card again gave a "you've already registered that card with us" type message and put me back on the register new card screen... it's like it wanted my bank card or wouldn't let me continue. So I thought to hell with that, I'll pay the online store I was shopping at directly with my credit card :/ So much for Paypal only taking a minute, it was a pain in the butt - shame, because I've used them before just fine and I like the concept.

What about Google Checkout? I've not used it (yet!) but I hear better things about it than Paypal.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

10 Jul 2007 at 12:43 - 216

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cirian

What about Google Checkout? I've not used it (yet!) but I hear better things about it than Paypal.

I'm actually looking into google Checkout at the moment for the station, the fees are much better and closer to credit card company costs

Lem

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earth

Zealots Of Shiverpeak

E/

10 Jul 2007 at 16:20 - 217

I have been done over as a seller a couple of times by paypals chargeback system. It is highly seller unfriendly so would never do anything to recommend that other people use it.

Just to echo what some other people have said: What about an option for Google Checkout?

I don't know what the fuss is about credit cards either, you can use debit cards too so long as they have Visa or Switch/Maestro on.

Theosebes

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

10 Jul 2007 at 16:28 - 218

The problem with Google Checkout is; you have to add a credit card to it to use it. It is essentially a middle-man for your online purchases, but it has no option of hooking directly to a bank account without having a credit (or debit) card.

If they had that, they wouldn't need an alternative method of payment for the online store...

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

10 Jul 2007 at 16:59 - 219

I do not use PayPal, nor do I have a credit card, nor am I of sufficient age for a credit card, but PayPal is dandy for parents who may not trust an in-game store (though personally my dad finds that purchases in-game are more legitimate than payments that are done in the browser which is launched via the game). Where is that option?

PayPal is dandy though. More payment plans = more purchases, most likely. Plus you should just add more methods so that you look more professional!

Hullo_0

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

ELM

R/

10 Jul 2007 at 18:31 - 220

I currently don’t have a credit card and use a PayPal account for online purchases; I have never had any problem with PayPal and fully support the decision to include PayPal as a payment option and see no reason why it shouldn’t be.

Credit Cards cannot be the only payment option, please implement PayPal or an alternative payment option that is equally accessible to players around the world.

cmdratz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Fruor Amicitia Conamen Effectus [FACE]

R/Mo

10 Jul 2007 at 18:34 - 221

I would not use PayPal. I only use money orders because they are the most secure payment method available. All successful on-line retailers support them, in addition to other businesses, including those involved in monthly billing for services. Support money orders and I will support your on-line store.

jelmew

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Holland

[Kaiz]

W/

10 Jul 2007 at 19:29 - 222

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Ah, but you have Pin Card's... those can be used online and for big transactions... we call them Debit cards here in the UK

(and yes i did my research and asked my three dutch guildies)
and meastro is now an option in the ingame store, so no worries about the 11 digit code

We can't use them online. I've a masetro pincard.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

10 Jul 2007 at 20:27 - 223

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Ah, but you have Pin Card's... those can be used online and for big transactions... we call them Debit cards here in the UK

Of course I can use my bank card to do online transactions. Big ones too. Not through ANet's online store though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

(and yes i did my research and asked my three dutch guildies)
and meastro is now an option in the ingame store, so no worries about the 11 digit code

My card does have the Maestro logo, but I have no Maestro option. Have your 3 Dutch guildies actually tried paying with their cards?

I only see these 5 options: Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Carte Bancaire and Carte Blue. None of them accept the standard card issued from my bank. No big surprise, because the first three refer actual cards issued by the company whose name they share, and the latter 2 are some kind of French cards. I have no idea what's the deal with those and why I even see them.

Argentino

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Gmt+1

N/

10 Jul 2007 at 21:48 - 224

Give me one good reason why u should start using it?
This system knows only negative points, it doesn't contribute anything. As seller U only have more chance on getting scammed through chargebacks.
Like u said: people who use paypal have creditcards most of the time. Only those who haven't got one need to find another way of payment, but I'm sure that's only a minority.

divinechancellor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Limited Liability Company [LLC]

E/

10 Jul 2007 at 23:38 - 225

All you need for paypal is a bank account, which means it can be used (not so legally) by people of any age. I've wanted character slots for awhile, but the lack of a credit card on my behalf was a major limitation. I do have paypal, and I hope that the GW store will take paypal soon, especially because of the bonus mission promotion

Angel Netherborn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Lower Ward, Sigil

Goda Vos

11 Jul 2007 at 00:23 - 226

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

No, I would not use PayPal. (Please explain)

Because I live in a country where PayPal isn't available.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

11 Jul 2007 at 02:12 - 227

Quote:

Originally Posted by jelmew

We can't use them online. I've a masetro pincard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gli

Of course I can use my bank card to do online transactions. Big ones too. Not through ANet's online store though.

My card does have the Maestro logo, but I have no Maestro option. Have your 3 Dutch guildies actually tried paying with their cards?

I only see these 5 options: Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Carte Bancaire and Carte Blue. None of them accept the standard card issued from my bank. No big surprise, because the first three refer actual cards issued by the company whose name they share, and the latter 2 are some kind of French cards. I have no idea what's the deal with those and why I even see them.

So even though the In game store not only has maestro in the oull down menu, but it also has the meastro logo next to the same pull down menu (it did for me today when i looked), it doesn't for you?

If thats the case, then theres an issue somewhere along the line that i wouldn't have any clue about personally

Rutabaga

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Alcoholic Attunement [AA]

A/

11 Jul 2007 at 02:23 - 228

I hace a cc and I would like paypal to be used as a payment option, caus eI can't buy anything from the gw shop (I've contacted support and they can't figure why it's not working) but my paypal is ok :s

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

11 Jul 2007 at 04:44 - 229

Nope, I don't have Pay-pal and honestly I would just use my credit card to make my purchases... no need for Pay-pal

lakatz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

11 Jul 2007 at 05:39 - 230

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rutabaga

I hace a cc and I would like paypal to be used as a payment option, caus eI can't buy anything from the gw shop (I've contacted support and they can't figure why it's not working) but my paypal is ok :s

Have you asked your bank why it's not working in the online store. Mine wouldn't work when the store first opened, I tried many times before I called my bank and asked why. The person who helped me saw all my attempts on their system and exactly what was going on. The store's encryption program was returning my 3-digit security code incorrectly. My bank issued a new card to me with a new security code, and it worked. I wonder if the encryption wasn't done on a non US keyboard.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

11 Jul 2007 at 06:28 - 231

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

So even though the In game store not only has maestro in the oull down menu, but it also has the meastro logo next to the same pull down menu (it did for me today when i looked), it doesn't for you?

If thats the case, then theres an issue somewhere along the line that i wouldn't have any clue about personally

I think the store's behavior depends on our location and/or some properties of our accounts.

Here's what I found in the knowledge base:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knowledge base

PlayNC Online Code Purchase: Accepted Means of payment

Question
PlayNC Online Code Purchase: Accepted Means of payment

Answer
The following means of payment are accepted for online serial code/access key purchases from PlayNC:

American Express®
MasterCard®
Visa®
Switch / Maestro (UK only)
Solo (UK only)
Carte Bancaire (FR only)
Carte Bleu (FR only)
Paysafecard (Germany, Austria, Greece, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and the UK)

I have no idea why they'd present me with the 2 French cards though. They're in my payment option dropdown.

elsalamandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

11 Jul 2007 at 11:05 - 232

I voted NO

I prefer to buy direct from the in-game store to be honest.

jelmew

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Holland

[Kaiz]

W/

11 Jul 2007 at 15:09 - 233

Quote:

Don't SMS systems take a 100% fee? So something that costs 30 Euros would cost 60?

Well, we don't have any thing to pay with now in Holland, can't use my pincard. So basicly adding something, even if it costed more, would greatly help us.

jelmew

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Holland

[Kaiz]

W/

11 Jul 2007 at 15:12 - 234

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Ah, but you have Pin Card's... those can be used online and for big transactions... we call them Debit cards here in the UK

(and yes i did my research and asked my three dutch guildies)
and meastro is now an option in the ingame store, so no worries about the 11 digit code

I wish I could agree with this. Only people in the Uk can choose maestro as a option. So we're still stuck with the credit cards.

antialias02

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Eastern Iowa

Forsaken Wanderers [FW]

Me/E

11 Jul 2007 at 15:22 - 235

PayPal has messed me over one too many times to consider them a viable option for paying for anything. I currently have an account in case of emergency (or on the off chance I buy anything off eBay, which is rare). My Debit Card is all I need, as it works just like a Credit Card. Failing that, my Credit Card will do.

And if I didn't have a credit card, I'd buy myself a prepaid Visa Credit Card from Wal-Mart or something.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

11 Jul 2007 at 15:34 - 236

I used PayPal for Ebay and its the least user friendly online pay service I have ever used in my life.

Aside from everything else, you can't withdraw every penny you have in it. If you have about £5 on you're PayPal account, your stuffed. It doesnt let you withdraw it, you can only withdraw amounts over a set value.

So if you're account contains £15 and an item costs £10 and you later want that £5 back, your screwed.Its the worst system I have ever used and far too complicated for a game like GWs.

Just release pay-as-go scratch cards that you can use in the shop, or use SMS!

Bravesoul

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Street Pharmacists [WHOA]

11 Jul 2007 at 17:11 - 237

"No, I would not use PayPal. (Please explain) "

As others have said, I do have a Paypal account and a credit card but I would not use my paypal account to purchase from the Ingame store.

This is because I like others use my Paypal account to add one more layer of security for purchases (Ebay, etc). I use my credit card for purchases from trust worthy sites (Ingame store,etc).

True Paypal would add additional fees to Anet for accepting payments but that cost is also offset by the additional source of revenue since currently some customers have no other means to purchase from the Ingame store.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

11 Jul 2007 at 19:04 - 238

Quote:

Originally Posted by jelmew

I wish I could agree with this. Only people in the Uk can choose maestro as a option. So we're still stuck with the credit cards.

Ah, well if thats the case then I make a colete turn around because that should be an option for you to use...

if you do have that option and then decide not to use it however, that again is your choice and not ANets fault and I stand by my previous statements

Yandawar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/E

11 Jul 2007 at 19:49 - 239

Quote:

Would you make a PlayNC purchase using PayPal?

No. I would not use any kind of payment that would tie my real identity to my in-game persona. That includes creditcard payments, paypal, or direct bank transfers as are common here in Europe. (That said, between those options, I can't decide if creditcards or paypal is worse. I think PayPal is. I have a minute bit more trust in NCSoft than in PayPal.)
For the gwen bonus mission only I would be willing to buy some kind of prepaid card in a real world store that would then be usable in the online store (although I'd much prefer buying the bonus missions directly in a real world store; mostly because I hate the thought of tying down my email address once signed up for one of those store accounts).

jelmew

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Holland

[Kaiz]

W/

11 Jul 2007 at 19:55 - 240

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Ah, well if thats the case then I make a colete turn around because that should be an option for you to use...

if you do have that option and then decide not to use it however, that again is your choice and not ANets fault and I stand by my previous statements

I knew this could be founded somewhere

PlayNC Online Code Purchase: Accepted Means of payment

Question
PlayNC Online Code Purchase: Accepted Means of payment

Answer
The following means of payment are accepted for online serial code/access key purchases from PlayNC:

* American Express®
* MasterCard®
* Visa®
* Switch / Maestro (UK only)
* Solo (UK only)
* Carte Bancaire (FR only)
* Carte Bleu (FR only)
* Paysafecard (Germany, Austria, Greece, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and the UK)

That leads me to the question, gaile, may we dutch get maestro? Pretty pretty plz?