Female Armor: Please leave SOMETHING to the imagination.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by holababe
However, I reckon male characters should get some revealing armor sets - warrior in Borat style swimsuit FTW
AHHH!! My eyes, they burn!

Quote:
Originally Posted by iriyabran
i'm a not so amused girl too
i like some skimpy armors but some are just beyond my limits xD
I find it amusing that your avatar shows an elementalist from the waist up wearing 15k Sunspear (the one most people call out as being skimpy).

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Originally Posted by Tutis Evito
I have to agree, I am a male player, but morality is a big issue in every industry, and unfortuntly we as a world have been softened to accept more and more immorality, either on TV, Films, and Computer games, i remember when i was younger, here in the UK we had the 'watershed' on TV where before 9pm TV had to be 100% decent...nowadays this 'watershed' doesn't exist.

All we have to do to see evidence of the effect that all this exposure to sex and pornography, weather its soft or even if its scantily clad real/non real is by looking at the young generation of today and compare it to a decade or so ago. Yes the world is chnaging, but it shouldnt chnage our standards or our morality on exposure and sexual content.

Designing your own armour would be hard from a game content side of things, but i fully understand and appricate your view when it comes to this.

I'm not some old time bloke who is caught up in the past, im in my mid twenties, but i still appricaite morality and moral standards. ctr
Morals like that are outdated. You can thank the church for that.

It used to be that people walked around cities fully nude. As far as I know, no problems came from this exposure, save for possible sunburn in uncomfortable places. At some point people stopped seeing the body as something beautiful and starting seeing it as something ugly.

Most people fail to realize that the people that they're trying to protect are not the children, but themselves. If a 3 year old sees a breast, it's not like their brain will instantly hemorrhage.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

those are just pixels, if u dont like a set of armor, just dont craft it.
unless a gun is pointed at u while playing, u dont have to craft those 15k sets

Even more, since the release of insignia, u can choose ANY skin for yer max armor.

(Go buy yer ele a FoW or stick a "Post-It" on yer screen to hide yer character ^^ )

ilipol

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

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I can't understand how you people get offended by the so called "revealing armor sets" when there is a title in the game encouraging getting drunk.
( which by the way I think is the most stupid thing Anet has put in the game )

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dervish Gnome
Dear ANET,
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying to do away with all the rather showy armor...but instead to introduce some armor for the more conservative female gamers who do not like to have warriors following them through towns yelling "Dance for me! I'll pay!!" Not to mention getting the dirty little whispers that makes a woman's spine shiver.
The Concerned Female Gamer...
Dervish Gnome
My wife' favorite warrior (female) armor is 15K Glads. My favorite for my female warrior char is Sunspear which shows absolutely nothing.

Tastes differ.

TheodanUK

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Heroic Order of Tyria

Me/A

Simple solution for real female players who want to avoid getting "dance for me" abuse and private message filth is to create male toons. Not an ideal one unfortunately

As a male, I enjoy creating female characters coz they are nicer to look at but yes, I do also want them to leave stuff to the imagination, most definately. Mesmers are the best

Please report any private abusive messages to ANET so they can deal with the low life males sending them. Messages of an insultive sexual nature are a breach of the EULA so should be dealt with appropriately. I am sure ANET take these matters seriously.

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

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I agree with Dervish Gnome. She isnt asking that you remove the semi nude armor from the females just add some less provacative as well. Tell me how the meser armor that looks like a nightgown protects anything. I want to put you in a teddy from victorias secret and throw rocks at you. lets see if your safe. Its not just about what looks good or not its also about what just looks silly.

/signed for more armor

~the rat~

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Well, actually caster gear are NOT armor.
They may have 60 armor, but that means 'basic', that is, a skill that deals 50 non-armor-ignoring damage deals 50 in 60 armor, more with less armor than that and less with more armor than that.

The only 'less logical' armor are the Paragon ones and the gladiator armor, that look like leather armor cover less, yet they have 80 armor.

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by ayame ftw
Well, its naive to think that 13 year old should be shielded from revealing clothing. the majority of teenagers start to have sex between 13-16 years in these times... so seeing a computer generated female with little clothes will not be a big chock to most of them.
Yeah, but how could a 13 year old pervert male explain his male warrior dancing naked in front of an unsuspecting female character? Showing her some moves, eh?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ayame ftw
Your excuse not to play your ele is that u are not at the bone palace yet… wel get there and buy the armor…then u can run around “safly and stop this whining.
She isn't whining. If she was, it would probably be more like "Female armor is too slutty! I want it changed now! Ban everyone who runs after female elementalists!!1!!11!"

Quote:
Originally Posted by ayame ftw
And a final note, this topic is pointless if u want to get something changed….
Everyone what’s something, people are never happy with how this game is…
U want more armor that’s not so revealing
An other person wants auction house, more skills, more hero’s , ect
Be happy with what u have/don’t have and stop making topic that will go no where
I can tell u this already…Anet doenst change anything when u ask for it
Even when there are
Multiple polls, t
Topics of 100+ posts on several forums
People threatening to leave the game
And provide us with some insight on how you get something changed. Do you join a major PvP guild and whine?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ayame ftw
Then maybe they will consider of changing something…
In other words live with the armor chooses or stop playing the game
If you "suck it up" or "deal with it" nothing gets changed. Things only become worse and worse.

What's next, duct tape bikini for female characters?

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

/not signed.

I personally love the look of the female armors (past, present and future)...

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
Yeah, but how could a 13 year old pervert male explain his male warrior dancing naked in front of an unsuspecting female character? Showing her some moves, eh?
Uh...13 yr olds rarely know enough about vanilla sex yet to be classed as perverts. 13yr old males are adolescents ie Beavis and Butthead.

Quote:
If you "suck it up" or "deal with it" nothing gets changed. Things only become worse and worse.

What's next, duct tape bikini for female characters?
Perhaps you need to browse on Wiki the available female armors? Because for every class there's a variety that stretches from bikini to full body armor and thats not just for warriors either.

Claiming this is a trend towards 'less clothing' is at best uninformed and at worst a blatant lie.
Nothing needs to change, there's a rather large amount of armor sets available and most of them are quite modest, yes, also the ele and mesmer sets.

Gargle Blaster

Gargle Blaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

i would be happy if they removed all the phallic strips of cloth from them..

SpeedyKQ

SpeedyKQ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

E/Me

There is nothing wrong with making requests for a particular type of armor. This is the place to do it. Elonian armor was particularly lacking in variety - they designed too many armors for heroes and not enough for players IMO.

That said, I wouldn't like to see a move towards more conservative dress for the game in general. If people are worried about the male/female imbalance, I'd rather they add more beefcake than take away my cheesecake... Let Mhenlo switch to tats or something.

mazey vorstagg

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nodnol

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

I'm a male gamer and I prefer the heavier looking leather armors on my ele girl. Ancient or geomancers 15k for example. How does 15k druids give you any protection when all you're wearing is furry underwear?

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

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Dervish Gnome,
Please re-read the post by jamal in its entirety he made several very good points which you simply brushed under the proverbial rug. Yes some (perhaps even half) of all of the armor for females could be considered revealing but lets look at this from a social perspective. Most of the female armor that i see in Guild Wars is generally less revealing than what I see women wearing on TV/Movies or even in any one of my random college classes. Now it is also more decorated with lace/silk or whatever the specific armor type is than what you might find in todays general apparel but thats to be expected. In any case most female armor types (with a few exceptions) reveals no more than you could see watching 30 minutes of tv.... I'm also relatively certain that you don't feel the urge to cover your television when someone walks in. Additionally, Guild Wars is set in the fantasy world and if you were to go to your local Borders/Barns & Noble and look at the cover of ANY of the books in the fantasy section and compare that between what the women are wearing in Guild Wars you might be surprised to realize that most female armor in guild wars is LESS revealing than what is on the cover of the books. Additionally you keep asking for alternative armor types when several posts have given you examples of various female armor which an Amish Guild Wars enthusiast would be happy to show his parents (except for the computer and electricity stuff). In any case please stop flaming about a select group of female armor types when there are plenty of alternatives for any class that you wish to play. If you would like to see a list of various armor types that one might consider unrevealing then please just refer to the part of jamals post that you completely ignored for the sake of complaining some more. Also, I would like to point out that you're complaining about armor types that will be released in GWEN and GW2 shows your general lack of intelligence because WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE (expletive) ARMOR IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN GWEN AND GW2. Finally, I feel that this thread could easily be closed because other people with the same insecurities and baseless complaints have already posted several threads about this. If you don't like the armor get less revealing armor there are several options throughout each of the professions as it stands. GG mm2.

Dervish Gnome

Dervish Gnome

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Northern America

Unlikely Heroes of Yesterday

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by R!ghteous Ind!gnation
Dervish Gnome,
In any case most female armor types (with a few exceptions) reveals no more than you could see watching 30 minutes of tv....
That is so very true. Yes; however, those people aren't suppose to be characters played by me...so I don't have to put up or deal with childish remarks from the less than wonderful public.
Quote:
Additionally you keep asking for alternative armor types when several posts have given you examples of various female armor which an Amish Guild Wars enthusiast would be happy to show his parents.
For female Elementalist armor I keep hearing about ancient and FoW. Since I obviously don't have the gold for FoW nor the time to travel into the abyss to find the ectos...that leaves me with Ancient. I still don't feel as though I need to pay high gold for armor just to cover up my elementalist when other classes have somewhat decent armor at a more than decent price. Thus, this may be my reason for wanting alternatives such as "Amish Armor" at a good price like 1k for each crafted piece.
Quote:
Also, I would like to point out that you're complaining about armor types that will be released in GWEN and GW2 shows your general lack of intelligence because WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE (expletive) ARMOR IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN GWEN AND GW2.
Well I guess my lack of intelligence fooled me into thinking that if Jora is going to be freezing in the North then other armor types created in GWEN may not be too helpful while battling in the snow. Also, I suppose me being a complete moron has also left me thinking that GW2 is going to be closely related to GW1 so maybe the armor would be related too? Hmmm...clearly my way of thinking is all screwed up.
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Finally, I feel that this thread could easily be closed because other people with the same insecurities and baseless complaints have already posted several threads about this. If you don't like the armor get less revealing armor there are several options throughout each of the professions as it stands.
Again with the insecurities. I find it amazing that many people try to say that I'm insecure when in fact I'm actully quite confident in myself and being so confident has led me to stand up for what I believe would be a good idea. So that would leave the "baseless complaints". My grounds for asking for more options have been stated throughout this thread...if you didn't happen to pick up on my reasons then by all means, please feel free to reread the postings. Actually I'll save you sometime...

I'm a female gamer who bought Guild Wars for the enjoyment of online play not because I saw the box and went "OH! Pretty!" I have self-respect, morals, and I prefer to be more proper than not. I don't think that the children who are running around on Guild War masquerading as "T" should be exposed to the showy female jiggle that happens during our ever so dainty run. Nor do I enjoy the comments made mostly (at least I would hope mostly) by the male race. Playing as a male would fix it, but to be honest...I'd hate being a man (even a pixel one) since I've grown attached to being a woman over the course of my life. All my characters are females and they will remain females. No I will not discountinue playing Guild Wars because I handed out good money for all the chapters and GWEN.

I am simply asking for more (if not cheaper) alternatives...(you may have seen this a few times in this thread). How is asking for such a thing a bad idea? I do not know! I guess this thread will have the same arguements that the Hairstylist thread is getting. People who ask and agree vs. the people who hate the idea even though they have the choice to completely ignore the newly instated options if indeed it makes it into Guild Wars.

Long winded, but in the end worth it...

Tutis Evito

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

England,UK

Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM]

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Its good to see someone with a least high morals and a good persoanl standard espically in the world today with the way games/media is protrayed. Just becuase someone voices there opinions and there standards which are not in line with the majorty of world today there is no need to acuse anyone of insecurities etc etc. just becuase there views and standards are somewhat higher than others.

Theres no harm is asking, in the correct forum for a varity of modest armor

sn0w1337

sn0w1337

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Donkey Pops

W/Mo

It is YOUR decision to play the game no?

Dervish Gnome

Dervish Gnome

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Northern America

Unlikely Heroes of Yesterday

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sn0w1337
It is YOUR decision to play the game no?
sn0w1337,
I so badly want to say "Yes, yes it is my decision to play the game." Nevertheless I have a strange inkling that someone will say that I don't have the right to make the decision just for the sake of arguing against me. (Just kidding...I doubt anyone is foolish enough to say that I don't hold the right to make that choice.)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tutis Evito
Its good to see someone with a least high morals and a good persoanl standard espically in the world today with the way games/media is protrayed. Just becuase someone voices there opinions and there standards which are not in line with the majorty of world today there is no need to acuse anyone of insecurities etc etc. just becuase there views and standards are somewhat higher than others.

Theres no harm is asking, in the correct forum for a varity of modest armor
Tutis Evito,
Thank you for kindly standing up for my views. I highly appreciate it.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

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Starting off to your last post, perhaps it was a bit hasty for me to have said that you are insecure... I do not know you personally however i was just commenting on my own personal opinion of why you might be offended by the armor in guild wars and the clothing/ visual style of today in general... Furthermore, in response to my last posts points stating that GW is no more revealing than say television or the general visual media available to our culture you said virtually nothing. Perhaps your problem is with society in general rather than simply with Guild wars, but that aside lets look at Guild Wars alone because a forum on guildwarsguru isnt going to change society... ANYWAY as far as Guild Wars let me help you out here...

Summary... There are alternatives:

Warrior: 20
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:W...front%2 9.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:W...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:W...ay_fron t.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...rn_F_Front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:W...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...lm _front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:W...full_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...emaleFront.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:W...ay_fron t.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:W...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:W...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:W...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...Undye_Full.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:W...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...ll_fro nt.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:W...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:W...ay_front.jp g
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:W...or_F_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...Undye_Full.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...ll_fro nt.jpg

Ranger: 20
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...Undye_Full.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...Full_Front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:1..._f_r_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...28Front%29.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:I...ront_undye.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...front% 29.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...Undye_Full.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...male_Front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...male_Front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...28Front%29.jpg

Monks: 22
I'm not even going to paste here... just not tattoo and your Amish eyes wont hurt... the general style is long draping clothing or tattoos on skin. 22 total female Amish armors. See link: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Monk_armor

Necros: 16
Again my hand hurts from crtl+c then ctrl+v from W and R but have a look at this- http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Necromancer_armor and you will see (I counted) 16 armor types that are not any more revealing than a standard dress.

Mesmer: 14
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:M...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:M...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:M...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:M...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:M...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:M...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:M...ay_front .jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:M...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...Full_Front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:15k_canthan_f_me.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...d_maskless.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:M...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:M...male_Front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:M...28front%29.jpg

Elementalist: 6
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:E...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:E...ay_fro nt.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:E...o15k_F_red.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:E...ay_f ront.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:E...t_Primevil.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:F...e_Obsidian.jpg

Assassin: 9
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...ndye_Front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...rmor_Front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:B...otic_15k_f.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...ay_front.jp g
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:V...ull_Body_F.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:I...assassin_f.jpg

Ritualist: 5
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:A...Undye_Full.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:1...rial_f_rit.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:R...n_Armour01.jpg

Paragon: 3
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:P...gray_front.jpg
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:F...mour_black.JPG
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:P...sidian_v2a.jpg

Dervish: 7
You already forfieted the dervish armor was not that revealing. With a total of 8 and excluding Elite Vabbian we have 7 total from this profession.

Keep in mind that there are significantly fewer armor for assassin, ritualist, paragon, and dervish. But EVERY SINGLE PROFESSION has several alternatives for those of you seeking AMISH armor. Further more you continually speak of Jora being too revealing (to which there will be additional armor sets available). There are 2 W heros already (Koss and Goren) to choose from who show no breasts to speak of, and the other revealed female heros are all already wearing Amish armor. Finally you flame about future clothing, but when you look at the armor sets that have been revealed (see http://uk.media.pc.gamespy.com/media...g_4733344.html ) you will see that not one of the 4 new armor sets are sets that could be considered revealing... So in Summation I have give you a total of one hundred and twenty two armor sets to choose from (not counting those from GWEN and not counting hero armor) that would allow you to play as ANY race in Guild Wars. So... rather than spewing short sided statements filled with over exaggerrations and misinformation, instead, please thank the art department at Anet for providing you all of the options in armor that you have and please stop complaining about a GAME that you CHOOSE to play.

Dervish Gnome

Dervish Gnome

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Northern America

Unlikely Heroes of Yesterday

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R!ghteous,
It's not only about looks, but about price range too. I'm not about to blow all my hard earned gold on one set of expensive armor. For example...
  • Paragon has 2 armor sets above 1k crafting price...leaving 1 "amish" armor.
  • Ritualist have 3 higher than 1k leaving another 3
  • Sins have 5 above the normal 1k leaving 4
  • Elementalist have 4 above 1k leaving 2... (ouch)
  • Mesmers have 5 above 1k leaving 9 (not too shabby)
  • Necros and Monks I have no problem with considering they have no bad armor (except for scars)
  • Rangers have 9 above the 1k leaving 11 (mostly the Ascalon armor is left)
  • Warriors have 8 above the 1k leaving 12 (also not shabby)

The only ones that need some help would be Paragon and Elementalist for sure. Yeah...there seem to be a lot of armor selection except when you factor in the prices being an issue...not to mention I left out including all rare material costs that would boost many of those armors to over 2k per piece total. I'm not into paying 10k for armor (I might for magma gloves...maybe) and yes I do have primeval (but it's thanks to that...that I no longer want to do a high purchase on secondary characters *it was a moment of weakness*).

Judge me as you will...arguing against me if you must, but I'm still going to stand firm about having more modest (yet stylish) armor at a moderate price.

Thank you though for posting all the alternatives for the others who may wish to be high rollers.

rohara

rohara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Rt/

blown way out of proportion, imo. there's a pretty wide variety of armor in this game, from stripper to nun.

and this is a fantasy game. these characters live and breathe in a fantasy world that is not of our own and doesn't abide by our morals.

anyways...i'm a lady gamer and i like my scantily clad lady toons. most people aren't so emotionally and hormonally imbalanced that they look at my ele and need to sign off for some "private" time. showing some skin != dirty slut. i don't complain about the conservative armor in the game, why complain about the skimpy?

grottoftl

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tutis Evito
Its good to see someone with a least high morals and a good persoanl standard espically in the world today with the way games/media is protrayed.
having high morals can cause close mindedness among society. people should be free to express themselves and not be persecuted because others think its "immoral". no one acted that way in ancient times when citizens walked freely nude in public and no one was bothered by it. every one of you should stop being so sensitive and be open minded

for those who dont understand why having less armor doesnt make any sense, well here is a little history lesson for you and I am repeating myself. back in ancient spartan days soldiers only equipped themselves with a shield, a helmet and a weapon, they didnt have full body armor. they fought in the battlefields completely nude reason why was because they can better manuver and it showed a sign of bravery, they showed no fear in battle. same goes for native americans who had less armor when fighting in battles and in other parts of the world, they only wore very light fabrics to fight so they have better agility to rely on to avoid the enemies attacks

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

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I am not saying anything bad about you as a person or individual, however it does annoy me when I am able to give 122 examples of armor that are acceptable to the most modest players available and those individuals are still unsatisfied. Show some appreciation for the fact that Anet does take what your saying into concern and has provided and will continue to provide many (122 or over 50 if you choose to completely ignore armor that is in any way above standard 1.5k) armor types that allow you to look as Amish as your heart desires. Ultimately what I am trying to say is that this thread is pointless as there is no real point to what you are trying to convey... Anet does think of those who want to wear modest clothing and will continue to make clothing that you can wear should you choose to wear it. So.... please close the thread.

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

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Well I see your point but I have one thing to point out in defense of Anet. Some male armors aren't any different. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Image...or_armor_m.jpg

Quarath

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

Merchants of Balthazar

E/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dervish Gnome
OhCrapLions,
Do you see where we are crying on here? Or is this just a sexist statement because women are known to show emotion more often then men? You may be okay with the armor and that's just fine...but I'm not okay with it and I have the right to post an objection or idea about what can be done about it. If you're not going to be helpful then stay out of this thread because I won't tolerate flaming from someone who can't spell "more". Thank you and happy gaming.

Ok here is helpful. I hope.

I am male and as a man I cannot say some of the outfits don't make me think about things men think about all too often. Yes that seems enjoyable but that is not what I am here to play for I am here to play adventure roleplaying game. If I want to watch half naked women dance in front of me I'd prefer they were real not animated.

I am also a father and all my kids play this game as well. I think the sexyness of the all the female characters is completely overdone and actually somewhat neglegent on the creators part for making this part of a game they know children will be playing weather they are the the target audience or not. I still let my children play because this is the world we live in and I am not going to shelter them from reality. But just because things are this way does not make them right.

I COMPLETELY support you that better choices should be available for those who wish it. In fact I there were filters for those who wished to turn them on that would substitute a more modest version of clothing on those that all ready exist. They can be similar, they can even be sexy but they would not be offensive. Those who don't care can leave the filter off they see what everyone wants and those who wish can turn the filter on and not see. I doubt the coding is even all that complicated and everybody wins.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

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Quarath... See my last post... there are plenty of armors available. I made a detailed list. Stop speaking out of ignorance and look at all of the available armors. See my post for a complete list of current available "Amish armors". As far as the coding goes... it is evident that you have never made a model or reskinned a current model. Please stop saying ungrounded statements... again see my most recent post.

Dervish Gnome

Dervish Gnome

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Northern America

Unlikely Heroes of Yesterday

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quarath
Ok here is helpful. I hope.

I COMPLETELY support you that better choices should be available for those who wish it. In fact I there were filters for those who wished to turn them on that would substitute a more modest version of clothing on those that all ready exist. They can be similar, they can even be sexy but they would not be offensive. Those who don't care can leave the filter off they see what everyone wants and those who wish can turn the filter on and not see. I doubt the coding is even all that complicated and everybody wins.
Quarath,
That is actually a brillaint idea! I would really go for that as an option (heck...I'll take it over new armor options).

Fitz Rinley

Fitz Rinley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Rusty Rose

W/Mo

I too have always been amused by the fact that 175 bolts, mind you Bolts, of cloth can be turned into a bathing suit for 75 grand. It is an irony which I deeply enjoy, having made my own costumes on occasion.

I have known very strong willed women, in the military - soldiers, that ran exactly the way depicted. Yes, I watched upon occasion. I have also known some very athletic Females who could appear quite dainty until they moved, . They simply were not accustomed to mincing as they walked. Now perhaps there should be a */mince on* and */mince off* set of emotes for the female characters. But there are some facts of life, such as Boys dont inherently do arm flutters and they are natural to excited girls. Boys dont naturally mince and girls are pretty close to designed for it. And it is ok for boys to like that.

Now, as for the armor. I also have a very prim character. Her name begins Mrs. She is Fitz's wife, and wears long dresses with her hair up. She is quite skilled at high persit and evasion in high-heels and proud of the skill. (Alas, she is awaiting the arival of the bonus signet for Women, "Inspired Stiletto Strike", which causes 3 consecutive knockdowns and blindness 3-19 sec to one target, but cripples caster for 5-3 seconds. But this would be a female only skill - unless of course Marilyn Manson is playing.) But my other female characters (4 more btw - I give equal time to both genders) are not at all concerned about distracting the foe with Tata checks. There are afterall, many different kinds of armor.

I would agree that a greater range of armors would be nice. I have always wanted to be able to include artistic elements from preferred secondaries in my dominant armor theme. If I want to play E/A then I would like the option of bladed armor where the blades reflect my preferred element. Or if I want to play W/N then something gothic with a skull face in the chest plate. Or if I want to play D/P, then a chestplate similar to the Sunspear armor with wings and deep flowing arms. I have always detested the split tail dresses of the Necros and Eles - and do not wear them.

So, I would agree with more versatility, but I would not agree with less sensuality. I think on that issue, we may be somewhat on opposed sides. I wouldnt mind seeing an adults section to the game that could be rated under 17 not admitted without parents. (Separate districts and proof of age via credit card before entry is allowed.) And that isn't so people can be raunchy, but so adults can play without having to feel guarded all the time. (And trust me, in my experience it would not separate the mature from the immature on either side.)

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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That's censorship.
And censorship is one of the worst things you can make to art and games.

Completely evil.

The game is sold with one rating. You bought it. If you want your 10 years old child to play the game, wait until he is over the age the game is rate.

Geez.

Please, have a little of common sense.

Clothing are comletely normal, there are no nudes or something like that.

This reminds me of that silly superbowl incident. Anyone with over IQ:50 would care not about that.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

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Gnome... Is there a reason you only responded to Quarath when there were multiple perfectly logical statments pertaining to your shortsided thoughts directly above his post... please respond to them before you simply quote a foolish supporter of your idea and ignore the logical arguments against your own perception.

Tutis Evito

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

England,UK

Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by grottoftl
having high morals can cause close mindedness among society. people should be free to express themselves and not be persecuted because others think its "immoral". no one acted that way in ancient times when citizens walked freely nude in public and no one was bothered by it. every one of you should stop being so sensitive and be open minded

Yes it can cause close mindedness but on the other hand high standards is something the world in general has lost.

Yes we all have the freedom to choose, i mean thats one thing we all have nowadays thanks to our ancestors and all the wars etc. We do live in a world where we can act for ourselves . On the flip side, people who sustain high standards and want to be moral shouldnt be persceuted either.

Im not here saying, 'hey all you who like to check out the GW sprite chicks' are wrong, all i am saying is 'hey, i have the same high standards, and yes i like Gnomes idea' Who am i to judge another.

We're all here to play a game, we all have differnet standards, upbringings and views on morality and we should respect those differences.

Dervish Gnome

Dervish Gnome

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Northern America

Unlikely Heroes of Yesterday

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by R!ghteous Ind!gnation
Gnome... Is there a reason you only responded to Quarath when there were multiple perfectly logical statments pertaining to your shortsided thoughts directly above his post... please respond to them before you simply quote a foolish supporter of your idea and ignore the logical arguments against your own perception.
Actually when I quoted him your post hadn't registered, but I think it's cute that you're so concerned about me noticing you. I have already responded to your long post and I thanked you for listing all the other options. Sorry, but I am not shelling out 15k for armor...you can just forget it.

Your other comment was souly direct to Quarath so I don't have to respond to that (other than...uh-oh other people have opinions that don't agree with you! Sound the alarms! Call 911! I want SWAT here ASAP! *heehee* That was fun.)

By all means, continue...

jkyarr

jkyarr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Earth, mostly

Hotties Of Ascolonian Rule

Mo/Me

Options are good!

GW:EN's new armors may resolve this request (although I have my doubts).

/signed

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/

SWAT has arrived... More than half of all of the armors in guild wars would not be considered overly revealing... so.... why does this thread exist? You have plenty of choices (122+ if you want to pay more or 50+ if you don't).

/closethread

Quarath

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

Merchants of Balthazar

E/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by R!ghteous Ind!gnation
Quarath... See my last post... there are plenty of armors available. I made a detailed list. Stop speaking out of ignorance and look at all of the available armors. See my post for a complete list of current available "Amish armors". As far as the coding goes... it is evident that you have never made a model or reskinned a current model. Please stop saying ungrounded statements... again see my most recent post.
Maybe you should actually read rather than rant. I see your list whoooo hooo good for you so what. What I said was I support Dervish NOT you which is your real problem. It's not based one bit on ignorance but on values which you seem to lack. What I suggested would in no way hinder your game play or what you see in the game. Only give those who wish a different alternative that would in no way interfere with anyone's voyeuristic digital debauchery. To that matter how does someone else having more options for armor art affect you at all.

As for ignorance what the hell does having made a model or re-skinned a model have anything to do with it. If you are referencing to the coding not being to difficult that has nothing to do with the coding. The coding simply turns on or off a filter much like a filter that filters out cuss words in a chat program. A collection of statements such as If OUTFIT(1)=Slutty replace with OUTFIT(1a) which is Modest. As for skinning a character model. I am a graphic Designer by profession and I am pretty sure I could handle it.

Next time you want to toss around accusations of ignorance look in the mirror.

Quarath

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

Merchants of Balthazar

E/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
That's censorship.
And censorship is one of the worst things you can make to art and games.

Completely evil.

The game is sold with one rating. You bought it. If you want your 10 years old child to play the game, wait until he is over the age the game is rate.

Geez.

Please, have a little of common sense.

Clothing are comletely normal, there are no nudes or something like that.

This reminds me of that silly superbowl incident. Anyone with over IQ:50 would care not about that.
No it's not Censorship. Censorship would forcing a change that would affect everyone regardless of if they liked it or not.

It's called choice. I gives someone the Option to choose to view things differently.

It in no way affects you.

Seppi

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Behind you O.o

The League Of Extraordinary [NUBS]

Mo/

I'm going to sign this for a wider range of clothing rather than focusing future armor toward 1 end of the spectrum.

Therefore...

/Signed for more armor ranging from underwear garments to a full blown astronaut suit.

Subnote: Jora's armor can be upgraded with hero armor. Most likely there will be a fully covered version of her armor.

I don't see the point to arguing against diversity, considering Anet will diversify anyway.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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While I'd like more skimpy armor, I'd support a skimpiness filter like the profanity filter.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/

Quarath... Cute thoughts, but still way off base... there are 122 current armor types that allow your toon to look as slutty as Vabbian 15k Ele or as modest as most Monk/Nun outfits... I'm all in favor of more armor, but creating a petition per say. What you do with your game means nothing to me, i just think its a bit narrow minded to accuse Anet of not making enough Amish armor when there is clearly plenty (122+). If you would like to make your own non-Amish armor feel free there are texture mods all of the internet.

Dervish Gnome

Dervish Gnome

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Northern America

Unlikely Heroes of Yesterday

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by R!ghteous Ind!gnation
Quarath... Cute thoughts, but still way off base... there are 122 current armor types that allow your toon to look as slutty as Vabbian 15k Ele or as modest as most Monk/Nun outfits... I'm all in favor of more armor, but creating a petition per say. What you do with your game means nothing to me, i just think its a bit narrow minded to accuse Anet of not making enough Amish armor when there is clearly plenty (122+). If you would like to make your own non-Amish armor feel free there are texture mods all of the internet.
Ele Vabbian armor costs 5k (by wiki's standards) and it's not slutty...I would rather have a belly button show then side boob anyday. And if I'm accusing ANET about anything it's about the lack of affordable, and modest (but somewhat stylish) armor.

Come on R!ghteous...you can no sooner make me back down then I could change your views and be 100% sure to get respectful clothing in GW (but I'll settle for a .01% chance if I have to).